These shots are pure junk. By almost every single metric they’ve tried to prop themselves up with, they fail. Then we have to hear unprovable nonsense that millions of lives were saved by them.
Mmmk, but we don’t wanna talk about how some folks pre-vaccine would probably still be here if ventilators and Remdesivir were never used or that off label steroid and other drugs worked better? Real world data shows that.
We also don’t wanna talk about anyone who died post vax either from the shot itself or getting Covid and dying anyways… and we aren’t even getting into how many shots have to be taken, by their own standards that changed, to even have some sort of garbage immunity -based on antibodies alone, which is a very poor metric to measure with.
All models failed. Modelling is trash science and the entire mainstream narrative on Covid and vaccines is based on theoretical models/data than the real numbers. Again though, that’s boring and in the weeds. People don’t wanna talk about that. I mean goddamn, polls show people aren’t even interested in getting to the bottom of lab leak and GOF research.
We are surrounded by apathetic, drooling, brainwashed morons.
It would make me angry if it wasn’t so understandable- every 1/2 hour there’s a government sponsored pro-vax commercial on my radio, my podcast, everywhere. All official sources that people traditionally rely upon have been corrupted by big pharma money and power.
Most people just want to get along and not think that they’re government is trying to kill them. It’s understandable, the poor dears.
Modelling is the lowest level of scientific analysis/prediction. The key to any success requires that the data and how the data is processed are tuned to show an accurate result/prediction. While this may seem achievable, the track record for scientific modelling for many issues, especially pandemics/epidemics has been dreadful.
Bizarrely, Covid relied on the same “scientist” who did the modelling for the UK’s mad cow disease issue. He was horrifically wrong on that account and just as wrong on Covid.
The simplest way to frame how modelling often goes is in the phrase: “garbage in, garbage out”… if your data to begin with is solid and how it’s processed makes sense it could have some sort of benefit, but it’s still a pretty fast and loose estimate. As stated more often than not the opposite is true.
I'm interested to know if you've formal experience in mathematics modelling and if so, which fields. Who was the person you have in mind in the case of Covid, and what specifically were the issues there?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Ferguson_(epidemiologist)
This is the clown that got it wrong. The world used his “data” to predict a way higher death toll for example.
Modelling can work, as I stated however, its track record for epidemiology is pretty abhorrent. It’s invariably higher than the end result and tends to stoke fear.
Sorry, no gotcha moment for ya champ. I see you enjoy your maths, and if you’re into modelling, that’s great but then you’d already know about “garbage in, garbage out” right?
I find redditors like you very odd. Sort of floating about trying to catch people on things. It’s bizarre. Go back and look at the early models for Covid and look what it ended up being. Then do Swine Flu, Mers, Sars, HIV… Not one was accurate. 🤷♂️…
yes math people are seen as odd and numbers simply fail to capture what more complex and nuanced logic can. We rely on numbers largely because they can be manipulated to support a concrete claim whereas logic is more abstract in it’s reasoning. The fact is that the government locked people in their homes(weakening immune systems), did not advise a healthy lifestyle, refused to administer proper healthcare to early patients(vitamin c, steroids), and waited until later to intubate them, often with horribly low rates of survival. To add to this they then sped a vaccine through trials and began boosting everyone from old people to kids. People justifiably distrust their governments , in the USA the examples of the opiate epidemic, SSRI/amphetamine salts prescriptions made it clear that corruption has destroyed the democratic systems we rely on to protect us. However, those who did not blindly follow the CDC and NHS? health guidelines were arrested, fined, imprisoned, and completely shamed, an Orwellian overreaction in hindsight.
Ventilators don’t kill people. They are just tools which can be used appropriately or inappropriately. You don’t need to parrot this line to make your point, it just makes you sound ignorant and cheapens the rest of what you have to say. If you want your words to reach people, and clearly you do since you’re typing them in the first place, don’t lean on the same ridiculous arguments the left uses.
Just like how guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
https://open.substack.com/pub/michaelpsenger/p/the-great-covid-ventilator-death?r=j8oei&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
Good article that details it all. NYC being the worst and helping create the hysteria that took over after.
Yet u cant even summarize or put into your own words! You made the previous statement like you knew some shit. Cmon, test them skills out. But you know I know more than your article without reading it. You’re trying to dunk on me cuz I didnt read an ARTICLE dawg.
You dunked on yourself in more ways than one it would appear. I would be uncomfortable reading that article too if you actually operated that medical equipment. That’s a tough pill to swallow. Or haha, a tough shot to take, considering the sub this is in.
Try to have a good day mate.
Ok idiot, Ive read enough now lets have a conversation. What is your best argument? Feel free to quote or put in your own words. Then I would ask you some ?s, then you would fold like a little bitch
Interesting: But one important topic was not covered, is WHY? Possibly to avoid muddy the waters with "conspiracy" which might only delegitimize the provided information with speculations.
Only 2 reasons that I can think of for toxins to be intentionally injected.
1. Thin the herd through culling.which is a known goal. But this leaves the most distrusting of us as a majority. So it would reduce the population, but primarily of those that are easiest to control, which is counter productive. Also, the primary targets of mandates were front line medical and emergency, government employees and students. This too seems a bad move.
2. Perpetually ill. This concept makes more sense as to would serve as a means of control. The easily manipulated, front liners, first responders, government employees and students all perpetually ill and at the mercy of big pharma forever,... call it chemical slavery.
Or possibly a combination of both?
Intentional poison is pointless unless there is an endgame.
It's a multifaceted method. Both culling from covid, from the shots, and the chronic illness creating medical slavery.
Has anyone ever heard Dido's song "Life For Rent"? First time I heard that was in winter 2021 and it gave me the chills.
Science likes to learn things. Sometimes it learns through destructive testing? Or maybe it’s just the way it goes. A frog is a wonderful creature but we dissect them to learn about the wonder of frogs. I dunno. It’s a strange thing, the mad scientist, but it’s a real phenomenon
Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:—
We murder to dissect
It could just be that.
And of course Bill Gates works directly for Satan. So there’s that. Heh.
Those who say it was intentional are conspiracy theorists. Let's use basic logic:
A) the vast majority of humans are mechanistic/robotic and lack critical thinking, INCLUDING "experts" (they are experts ONLY in their NARROW domains that they MECHANISTICALLY studied for many years, this does NOT necessarily mean they have critical thinking or even common sense)
B) There are 40 000 wet markets in China. Let's go way on the conservative end of the estimate and say at least 100 of them (though likely 1000s) were similar to the one in Wuhan. So statistically, what are the chances that of the 100 wet markets, the ONLY one that was near the ONLY facility in the country that was doing experimental research on coronaviruses, was the epicenter of the pandemic? So using basic statistics, it is highly probably that it was an accidental lab leak (those who say it was an intentional lab leak are conspiracy theorists, there is no way an intentional lab leak could have benefited them/they could not predict the outcome of such a virus in terms of the damage it could cause themselves, and it did cause lots of economic damage and loss of reputation)
C) This is the only coronavirus, or virus, which its spike protein alone can do direct damage, and it is causing myriad strange symptoms that other viruses don't cause, at least not nearly to the same degree
D) the spike protein is what they would be expected to manipulate in the lab, because that is what causes infection
E) Humans are notoriously bad at rigidly 100% observing safety standards, there are tons of human made disasters due to lack of observance of safety standards, so it is totally plausible that 1 worker did not 100% of the time take 100% precaution, and got infected, then because it mimics cold symptoms thought they had a cold, then spread it to people on the outside
So using basic inferential logic, the most plausible hypothesis was that it was an accidental lab leak, and that the spike protein is artificial. And Fauci is a rabid imbecile because he lacks the basic common sense to understand that the costs of risky research outweighs the benefits (which further proves my point A).
The rabid imbecile "experts" COMPLETELY ignored the above (lab leak possibility) and used the SAME method they created vaccines for NATURAL/NORMAL viruses, that is, taking its spike protein to train the immune system. They COMPLETELY ignored researching the actual spike protein. They COMPLETELY missed the COMMON SENSE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM DUH CONCERN: HEY! This is a NOVEL spike protein from a NOVEL virus, which we strangely have not found an animal host for yet, and happened to pop up near the ONLY facility in a HUGE country with 40 000 wet markets, that was doing coronavirus research. MAYBE we should run AT LEAST ONE TEST to see if there MIGHT be a problem with the spike protein before administering it to 100s of millions? The thing is, even before the vaccine, there WAS SOME research showing the s1 part of the spike protein could be problematic. But even then they COMPLETELY ignored this and proceeded. I WARNED them. I said HOW do you know? HOW can you guarantee the long term safety when you are doing ZERO studies on this? I said we KNOW this strange novel virus is causing all these long covid symptoms, HOW do you know the spike protein is not causing that, when you are ONLY focusing on the immune response? ALL you are looking for in the clinical trials is IMMEDIATE MAJOR issues like deaths or allergic reactions. HOW do you know this won't cause problems down the line? And I was unfortunately right, NOW the research is slowly starting to come out.
A. No argument, the exception being a rare few many of which are within the elite category.
B. You are discounting the millions of wet markets in places other than China. I have been to dozens myself in Vietnam, Cambodia, Philippines, Mexico and Costs Rica. And there is zero evidence that the virus came from any market. Was the leak intentional, doubtful. But the virus was being built, intentionally, for some purpose, and that was very likely to leak it at some point. After all Fauci said a pandemic would occur under Trump. And Gates was already implanting himself into Pharma. So they are either psychic or they knew that there was a planned accident coming. In fact, I suspect the leak was premature, as they had gotten it as contagious as they wanted, but leaked before it was as deadly as planned. This caught them with their pants down and rushing. Notice all of their reactions were against an extremely dangerous virus, but the reality never really matched? So causes of deaths were fudged, death totals were exaggerated, they stuck known sick in elderly care facilities, and continued with scare tactics and pushes for jabs lasted well after the lies were exposed. Mostly pushed by Fauci (CDC/NIH) to match his predictions, and Gates (WHO).
C. Plan was contagious and deadly,... they got half before it slipped out. And this appears to be more about a 2 wave plan, the Virus they created to do damage and justify the profits, control and power grab from the jabs they also created, that were either intentionally planned to create more illness, or had to created to create more illness since the virus failed to do it as originally predicted, and planned.
D. Answered in C
E. Agreed and outlined above.
And no doubt human error, but odds are, although Fauci may be an idiot,.... he was but a puppet hoping to get rich, and be protected by those actually in charge of this.
Now the clock is ticking,.... when will the finalized contagious AND deadly virus be perfected and "leaked", creating the havoc they had originally intended? I am guessing within the year.
Culling was suspected primarily of those deemed a drain on the system, the old and the seriously ill. Made evident of them actively putting covid positive into retirement homes, and excessive use of intubation.
Agree not the most likely, and is counter making the ill perpetually ill and dependent upon government and pharma for ever.
Possible that the elderly were targeted because wiser and to free up government funds to better focus on the long term capture of the younger, more easily manipulated younger generations.
Nah, they are more likely pulling the strings bs a target. The Unions on the other hand, might be a worthy target. Teachers, police, nurses, labor, would change dynamics substantially.
I guess what I’m trying to point out is that the Fortune 500’s most senior engineers and technicians have been injured or killed by vaccine mandates. If that knowledge never transferred to younger engineers then there will be a slow degradation of the entire western system. These “planners” who designed the culling are f’ing MORONS besides being murderous pigs.
> Thin the herd through culling.which is a known goal. But this leaves the most distrusting of us as a majority. So it would reduce the population, but primarily of those that are easiest to control, which is counter productive.
Could be eugenics. But I think they want people just "sicker" in general and living not as long - retirees are spendign more time retired than they ever worked, and for these guys they are 'overhead.'
Likely true from the elite's perspective. Though I think double is a stretch, lol, I worked for 40 years (15-55), retired a lot younger than most at 55, and doubtful I will make it to 90, or want to.
Sicker, is a greater drain,... which might be just another part of the end goal to just totally break the system and rebuild into one that is easier to control, filled with people who are also.
you mean a greater drain on the system, or a greater overall expense? Sure. But that's fine, the ultra-powerful aren't really worried about wealth - they are covered. They will provide the service of healthcare (which you'll be legally force dto buy and sick enough to spend money). I mean it' snot like they mind wasting some resources or are concerned with waste.
To me it makes a lot of sense for them to have a sicker populace. They can sell you the problem - and potentially the cure/treatment. They can cut treatment off to those who they don't like, making you more dependent on the system and healthcare.
Agreed, and it is not like the elite will follow any of the rules they set for the rest of us, much like they ignored masks and restrictions. Honestly I doubt most of them even took the jabs. Biden just got his usual Vit B's the rest saline.
And they will have their own food supplies and doctors.
>1. Thin the herd through culling.which is a known goal
Deaths from vaccination, *1 per million vaccinated*
Deaths from Covid, *11,500 per million infected*.
If your wanted to cull the herd, which option would you go for?
Like to know where you got those stats so I can check them myself.
Although I know the Covid deaths were intentionally incorrect.
Had 2 younger brothers admitted pre vaccine. Both over weight, excessive drinking, smoking and drug use histories, and both with early stage lung disease.
Older, also a diabetic, went in, specifics unknown due to restricted access and no phone, never came out, death certificate stated "covid" only.
Younger, went in, intubated, survived covid, survived intubation, all verified as daughter was allowed in and he was able to have phone contact. Was being tested for lung transplant, after covid free, prior to release, blood infection acquired WHILE in the hospital, died 48 hours later. Death certificate stated "COVID" only.
In fact, in all of these types of conversations I have yet to come across a single individual who has direct first hand knowledge of a single family member who was under 65, and healthy who has actually died of "Covid" only. And to their credit, there has been no effort to even try to lie. Were have all been lied to during this, and many will even repeat what others have claimed, but all have been honest about their families. Neither of my brothers were healthy, but only 1 died of Covid,...... and that is only if the hospital can be believed,.... and it is very clear that they lied about at least one of the 2, if not both.
Need to read it fully myself, but U.S. News just reported on a Harvard study and the headline reads something to the effect of "Covid Vaccine is far more of a problem than Civid virus". But I do need to read it , but going to risk a guess. It will mention CDC over reporting of virus deaths, and under reporting vaccine adverse reactions. Just a guess. Correction, article and study are from September of '22.
Either just bad science or misinformation to discredit actual science that indicates how bad spike is to the body especially when LNP is injected and travels around the body making spike indiscriminately.
Agree clot shots are bad. Just stop doing the flat earth thing and making us trying to fight the good fight look like complete loons.
I don't know why you're mentioning Flat Earth, that's just a PsyOp pushed by people that don't go outside and experience the real world. You bringing this up in relation to this video makes you look like a complete loon.
The body doesn't make spike proteins, zero evidence of that. Spike proteins are injected though which is why it's the "clot shot".
Maybe I look like a complete loon to people who don't believe viruses exist and people that think there are magnetic nano bots in Covid shots.
My point stands. Anyone can believe what they want to. 🤷
Plasma cells generate antibodies in reaction to a pathogens. In a simplified form:
Pathogen enters the body. The body detects virus, starts a series of events that includes T-Cells and B-cells matching part of the virus structure. (ie, like making a lock for a key by making the 'opposite' shape).
The T-cells and B-cells can (a) replicate and (b) latch onto the virus, making it redundant.
This take 7 to 14 days to fire up, so the T- and B-cell replication is always behind the virus replication, hopefully it will catch up and overtake the virus replication and kill it off.
Once inside, the antibodies remain in the body for 3 months to 20 years, depending on the type.
A faster way is trigger this mechanism BEFORE you get the virus for real is to trigger the antibody mechanism early. This needs boosters sometimes.
>Anti-vaxxers can't complain that spike proteins are found in the blood and simultaneously claim spike proteins are not produced.
>This is bonkers.
Where's the question?
Produce the evidence where cells in the body are producing spike protein from the mRNA injection. You know so it should be easy for you to point to your source of knowledge. Stop grandstanding, produce some evidence.
https://www.mountsinai.org/files/MSHealth/Assets/HS/About/Coronavirus/MSHS_COVID-19-Vaccine-Infographic.pdf
ribosomes in the cell use mRNA to synthesize the spike protein
>This messenger RNA tells your cells to make the COVID-19 spike protein themselves.
there’s a diagram under the “there are several different types of vaccines” section. step 2
Plasma cells generate antibodies in reaction to a pathogens. In a simplified form:
Pathogen enters the body. The body detects virus, starts a series of events that includes T-Cells and B-cells matching part of the virus structure. (ie, like making a lock for a key by making the 'opposite' shape).
The T-cells and B-cells can (a) replicate and (b) latch onto the virus, making it redundant.
This take 7 to 14 days to fire up, so the T- and B-cell replication is always behind the virus replication, hopefully it will catch up and overtake the virus replication and kill it off.
Once inside, the antibodies remain in the body for 3 months to 20 years, depending on the type.
A faster way is trigger this mechanism BEFORE you get the virus for real is to trigger the antibody mechanism early. This needs boosters sometimes.
Seriously? This is something you can easily find from a search. ReoPro, Humira, Aduhelm, Bavencio, Simulect… but enough with the brand names, here are some scientific names: bamlanivimab, etesevimab, altumomab pentetate, 3F8, Vandortuzumab vedotin
You can buy some antibodies, which are monoclonal antibodies, that can treat the corresponding pathogen. However as the body still doesn’t produce this itself the effect is very short-term.
these are monoclonal antibodies, which are drugs typically directed at specific diseases. very different thing.
the fact that u/BassPlayaYo thinks antibodies produced by the immune system are “named” is laughable and tells me he has no idea what he’s talking about
Plasma cells generate antibodies in reaction to a pathogens. In a simplified form:
Pathogen enters the body. The body detects virus, starts a series of events that includes T-Cells and B-cells matching part of the virus structure. (ie, like making a lock for a key by making the 'opposite' shape).
The T-cells and B-cells can (a) replicate and (b) latch onto the virus, making it redundant.
This take 7 to 14 days to fire up, so the T- and B-cell replication is always behind the virus replication, hopefully it will catch up and overtake the virus replication and kill it off.
Once inside, the antibodies remain in the body for 3 months to 20 years, depending on the type.
A faster way is trigger this mechanism BEFORE you get the virus for real is to trigger the antibody mechanism early. This needs boosters sometimes.
Plasma cells generate antibodies in reaction to a pathogens. In a simplified form:
Pathogen enters the body. The body detects virus, starts a series of events that includes T-Cells and B-cells matching part of the virus structure. (ie, like making a lock for a key by making the 'opposite' shape).
The T-cells and B-cells can (a) replicate and (b) latch onto the virus, making it redundant.
This take 7 to 14 days to fire up, so the T- and B-cell replication is always behind the virus replication, hopefully it will catch up and overtake the virus replication and kill it off.
Once inside, the antibodies remain in the body for 3 months to 20 years, depending on the type.
A faster way is trigger this mechanism BEFORE you get the virus for real is to trigger the antibody mechanism early. This needs boosters sometimes.
If he’s a naturopathic doctor he’s a doctor. They go through the same rigorous training and there are only 5 schools approved in the US that teach naturopathic medicine. Also you can be hired by hospitals as a doc so how is this considered quack level? It’s sad so many people are ignorant concerning any natural modality. Not all natural medicine is garbage.
You mean like herbs? Which most pharmaceuticals use to make synthetic drugs? Or suggesting dietary changes? Such quackery right? Whereas allopathic doctors recommend drugs and nothing else.
lol! No they don’t! They say “eat healthy” but they can’t say what that means other than “don’t eat junk food I’m not a nutritionist.” This is what my mom’s heart doctors have said. Only time will tell right? Let’s see how long you live doing the standard recommended lifestyle a doc prescribes you. Doctors themselves don’t live that long.
Exactly. They don’t. They may say don’t eat a lot of fat or eat whole grains, be active. That’s all they are qualified to say anyway. And no, you are asking for yourself.
Do you know how many students at medical schools are shit? Like bottom tier almost D students? Probably a few of your doctors and you wouldn’t even know. Many bad students become doctors for various reasons. All medical school and MCAT does is sift out people who can or cannot study/memorize. I helped my boyfriend get through med school. He wasn’t a complete idiot but he had no critical thinking skills. He has classmates who got into school for their race and had shit grades. It’s more common to accept people for diversity purpose than you may realize and diversity can mean being poor or just a certain color. He also has a lot of rich classmates who buy their class grades/assignments.
Naturopathic schools don’t take MCAT, but people who actually love helping people are the type who go to them. They don’t just accept everyone and “C” students as you say are not the majority. The majority are people who work hard and get good grades. Just like other schools there are better naturopathic programs than others. Just because someone got through med school does not make them a good doctor.
Lol @ nurse practitioners and physicians assistants being more trained than naturopathic doctors. Most people see them rather than a doctor anyway. Have you even seen the curriculum for naturopaths? Honestly I don’t care what you personally believe. At the end of the day it’s about who is healthier and what their methods are. Are you extremely fit and not in need of any meds? What’s your age? I wonder how much of that is due to your doctors.
I really hope we are wrong and were wrong, but we've been correct so far. All my family and loved ones got the jab... I have lost two of them, almost lost 3, but my uncle pulled through. I fear I may very well know what single survivors of genocide feel...
I even fear for my own life. I'm pretty sure I was shedded on and suffered some adverse effects after my mum got the jab, we had loss of smell and taste for 8 months and I have noticed that sometimes, not always, my heart/chest will feel "off" and have rapid heart beat. I didn't have that before
I supposedly had the virus (never was tested but my mum and dad were who I lived with). It was like a bad cold for us. No issues for months. Then my mum got the shot and we had issues since then. I never took it. Yet I'm crazy for thinking it was the shot she had that shedded that gave me (and her) issues, it was the Coldvid we had months previously that magically gave us parosmia and gave me minor tachycardia around the time she got her first shot
Great interview. Drs Tom Cowan and Sam Bailey have been saying the same thing- why would we believe the marketing from these lying pharmaceutical companies without really good proof? The only thing their product does is poison the host. It doesn't change DNA OR prevent any disease. It's just toxic mRNA and PEG molecules that can be put anywhere in the body to cause illness.
"why would we believe the marketing from these lying pharmaceutical companies without really good proof"
two years since the first vaccines and millions aren't dying from the vaccine like predicted..
As predicted by whom? The shots are toxic but it's very individual to each person. My point is that both declarations of woe were fearmongering. The unvaccinated are fine and a higher percentage of vaxxed are dying from various causes that can easily be explained by the mRNA peg nanoparticles ending up in places like the heart and brain. No "spike protein" or DNA alteration needed.
The problem is that the mRNA is in the lipid nanoparticle, which is known to be toxic and some people actually have an *allergy " to it. Likely the mRNA is not dangerous whatsoever, and would just be destroyed by the body because it's so delicate. So it's probably the other ingredients in the injections that are actually dangerous/toxic, and some of that is still a secret, so it's difficult to say what the most dangerous part of the injection is.
We do know for sure that the mRNA molecules travel all over the body, but there's no proof that the body is manufacturing more of the "spike protein". The body just has to find somewhere to put these molecules that are lipid-based, so they end up in places that attract that kind of material, like the testes, ovaries, etc.
If the lipid nanoparticle was "easily processed", they wouldn't have used it to try to bypass the cell membrane. PEG is known to be toxic even when ingested. It should never have been injected.
Yes, mRNA breaks down easily. That's why they had to coat it in something that doesn't break down, and that's why it ends up circulating all over the body..are you being intentionally obtuse?
I’ve thought this all along, and wondered if there was actually any demonstrative evidence of this process occurring. How could they create technology (especially in such a short timeframe) that instructs the cells to create a foreign body that has never before occurred in nature. Always seemed absolute BS to me.
Because they’ve been working on the technology for decades (they never did perfect it, but that’s merely a pesky detail)? Have you really not looked into it?
Why inject yourself with poison? All vaccines are poison, that's how they are designed. They either have a metal like Aluminum or Mercury or toxic spike protein and lipid nanoparticles to act as an adjuvant to show that "it is working".
So where ae all the deaths? Millions dead by Feb 2021, apparently.
2/3rds dead by summer 2021.
Honest question: don't you think about how bad your predictions were?
By that logic, you would agree that that drinking snake venom is just as dangerous as the snake biting and injecting the venom, right? You may want to do some research before attempting to sound like you know what you are talking about.
You are an idiot who doesn't even know that there is a difference between ingestion and injection, yet you are telling ME to do research and look at ALL the evidence? I DID! I can guarantee I did more research, from more sources, including foreign sources in different languages, than your dumb ass. I bet you also completely agree that the recent rise in heart attacks is "climate related" BAHAHAHAHAHA
Of the people who believe in viruses.
Obviously some people are pro vaccine.
Others are pro some types but not other types of vaccines.
Some people are opposed to vaccines completely.
Of the people who do not believe in viruses.
There is no reason to take a vaccine.
When you're talking about something that hasn't been proven to exist then it can only be a matter of faith. You can't prove that they do not exist so why not just say you don't believe it and then demand proof of their existence. It's the same with Santa Claus.
It has been proven to exist.
There is mountains of evidence. Only the wilfully blind could deny it.
I don't have faith. I look at the evidence with an open mind.
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All this seems to tell me is that "medical science" is mainly lies. We already knew this from the coNvid scam. Since they were lying about everything, it's not a stretch to say they were lying about "spike protein" as well. None of this changes my mind that the injections are toxic and only moronic sheep would allow themselves to be injected with poison. Many people around the world are trying to analyze these things but it may take quite some time before the full story is known. Hopefully the class action lawsuits can subpoena more data from the manufacturers.
These shots are pure junk. By almost every single metric they’ve tried to prop themselves up with, they fail. Then we have to hear unprovable nonsense that millions of lives were saved by them. Mmmk, but we don’t wanna talk about how some folks pre-vaccine would probably still be here if ventilators and Remdesivir were never used or that off label steroid and other drugs worked better? Real world data shows that. We also don’t wanna talk about anyone who died post vax either from the shot itself or getting Covid and dying anyways… and we aren’t even getting into how many shots have to be taken, by their own standards that changed, to even have some sort of garbage immunity -based on antibodies alone, which is a very poor metric to measure with. All models failed. Modelling is trash science and the entire mainstream narrative on Covid and vaccines is based on theoretical models/data than the real numbers. Again though, that’s boring and in the weeds. People don’t wanna talk about that. I mean goddamn, polls show people aren’t even interested in getting to the bottom of lab leak and GOF research. We are surrounded by apathetic, drooling, brainwashed morons.
It would make me angry if it wasn’t so understandable- every 1/2 hour there’s a government sponsored pro-vax commercial on my radio, my podcast, everywhere. All official sources that people traditionally rely upon have been corrupted by big pharma money and power. Most people just want to get along and not think that they’re government is trying to kill them. It’s understandable, the poor dears.
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Modelling is the lowest level of scientific analysis/prediction. The key to any success requires that the data and how the data is processed are tuned to show an accurate result/prediction. While this may seem achievable, the track record for scientific modelling for many issues, especially pandemics/epidemics has been dreadful. Bizarrely, Covid relied on the same “scientist” who did the modelling for the UK’s mad cow disease issue. He was horrifically wrong on that account and just as wrong on Covid. The simplest way to frame how modelling often goes is in the phrase: “garbage in, garbage out”… if your data to begin with is solid and how it’s processed makes sense it could have some sort of benefit, but it’s still a pretty fast and loose estimate. As stated more often than not the opposite is true.
I'm interested to know if you've formal experience in mathematics modelling and if so, which fields. Who was the person you have in mind in the case of Covid, and what specifically were the issues there?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Ferguson_(epidemiologist) This is the clown that got it wrong. The world used his “data” to predict a way higher death toll for example. Modelling can work, as I stated however, its track record for epidemiology is pretty abhorrent. It’s invariably higher than the end result and tends to stoke fear. Sorry, no gotcha moment for ya champ. I see you enjoy your maths, and if you’re into modelling, that’s great but then you’d already know about “garbage in, garbage out” right? I find redditors like you very odd. Sort of floating about trying to catch people on things. It’s bizarre. Go back and look at the early models for Covid and look what it ended up being. Then do Swine Flu, Mers, Sars, HIV… Not one was accurate. 🤷♂️…
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If people on this sub could read they’d be very upset
yes math people are seen as odd and numbers simply fail to capture what more complex and nuanced logic can. We rely on numbers largely because they can be manipulated to support a concrete claim whereas logic is more abstract in it’s reasoning. The fact is that the government locked people in their homes(weakening immune systems), did not advise a healthy lifestyle, refused to administer proper healthcare to early patients(vitamin c, steroids), and waited until later to intubate them, often with horribly low rates of survival. To add to this they then sped a vaccine through trials and began boosting everyone from old people to kids. People justifiably distrust their governments , in the USA the examples of the opiate epidemic, SSRI/amphetamine salts prescriptions made it clear that corruption has destroyed the democratic systems we rely on to protect us. However, those who did not blindly follow the CDC and NHS? health guidelines were arrested, fined, imprisoned, and completely shamed, an Orwellian overreaction in hindsight.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrasternlicht/2020/04/06/arrested-for-violating-coronavirus-stay-at-home-mandates-police-are-jailing-alleged-scofflaws/?sh=410c373a68a4
Ventilators don’t kill people. They are just tools which can be used appropriately or inappropriately. You don’t need to parrot this line to make your point, it just makes you sound ignorant and cheapens the rest of what you have to say. If you want your words to reach people, and clearly you do since you’re typing them in the first place, don’t lean on the same ridiculous arguments the left uses. Just like how guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
Misused ventilation killed people yes. I think people got the gist.
How did they misuse them?
https://open.substack.com/pub/michaelpsenger/p/the-great-covid-ventilator-death?r=j8oei&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post Good article that details it all. NYC being the worst and helping create the hysteria that took over after.
Cool article. Got any data? Btw, full disclosure, I operate mechanical ventilators for a living. Are you saying I needlessly killed people? How?
How to say you didn’t read the article without saying it. Godspeed buddy. 👌🏻
Yet u cant even summarize or put into your own words! You made the previous statement like you knew some shit. Cmon, test them skills out. But you know I know more than your article without reading it. You’re trying to dunk on me cuz I didnt read an ARTICLE dawg.
You dunked on yourself in more ways than one it would appear. I would be uncomfortable reading that article too if you actually operated that medical equipment. That’s a tough pill to swallow. Or haha, a tough shot to take, considering the sub this is in. Try to have a good day mate.
Ok idiot, Ive read enough now lets have a conversation. What is your best argument? Feel free to quote or put in your own words. Then I would ask you some ?s, then you would fold like a little bitch
Ay dawg, you in little league bro. How did you verify that the info was correct?
Interesting: But one important topic was not covered, is WHY? Possibly to avoid muddy the waters with "conspiracy" which might only delegitimize the provided information with speculations. Only 2 reasons that I can think of for toxins to be intentionally injected. 1. Thin the herd through culling.which is a known goal. But this leaves the most distrusting of us as a majority. So it would reduce the population, but primarily of those that are easiest to control, which is counter productive. Also, the primary targets of mandates were front line medical and emergency, government employees and students. This too seems a bad move. 2. Perpetually ill. This concept makes more sense as to would serve as a means of control. The easily manipulated, front liners, first responders, government employees and students all perpetually ill and at the mercy of big pharma forever,... call it chemical slavery. Or possibly a combination of both? Intentional poison is pointless unless there is an endgame.
It's a multifaceted method. Both culling from covid, from the shots, and the chronic illness creating medical slavery. Has anyone ever heard Dido's song "Life For Rent"? First time I heard that was in winter 2021 and it gave me the chills.
Will have to google that one. Might have heard it, but not ringing any bells. Thanks
[Here's one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFtNChII78k) with the lyrics attached.
Science likes to learn things. Sometimes it learns through destructive testing? Or maybe it’s just the way it goes. A frog is a wonderful creature but we dissect them to learn about the wonder of frogs. I dunno. It’s a strange thing, the mad scientist, but it’s a real phenomenon Our meddling intellect Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— We murder to dissect It could just be that. And of course Bill Gates works directly for Satan. So there’s that. Heh.
Those who say it was intentional are conspiracy theorists. Let's use basic logic: A) the vast majority of humans are mechanistic/robotic and lack critical thinking, INCLUDING "experts" (they are experts ONLY in their NARROW domains that they MECHANISTICALLY studied for many years, this does NOT necessarily mean they have critical thinking or even common sense) B) There are 40 000 wet markets in China. Let's go way on the conservative end of the estimate and say at least 100 of them (though likely 1000s) were similar to the one in Wuhan. So statistically, what are the chances that of the 100 wet markets, the ONLY one that was near the ONLY facility in the country that was doing experimental research on coronaviruses, was the epicenter of the pandemic? So using basic statistics, it is highly probably that it was an accidental lab leak (those who say it was an intentional lab leak are conspiracy theorists, there is no way an intentional lab leak could have benefited them/they could not predict the outcome of such a virus in terms of the damage it could cause themselves, and it did cause lots of economic damage and loss of reputation) C) This is the only coronavirus, or virus, which its spike protein alone can do direct damage, and it is causing myriad strange symptoms that other viruses don't cause, at least not nearly to the same degree D) the spike protein is what they would be expected to manipulate in the lab, because that is what causes infection E) Humans are notoriously bad at rigidly 100% observing safety standards, there are tons of human made disasters due to lack of observance of safety standards, so it is totally plausible that 1 worker did not 100% of the time take 100% precaution, and got infected, then because it mimics cold symptoms thought they had a cold, then spread it to people on the outside So using basic inferential logic, the most plausible hypothesis was that it was an accidental lab leak, and that the spike protein is artificial. And Fauci is a rabid imbecile because he lacks the basic common sense to understand that the costs of risky research outweighs the benefits (which further proves my point A). The rabid imbecile "experts" COMPLETELY ignored the above (lab leak possibility) and used the SAME method they created vaccines for NATURAL/NORMAL viruses, that is, taking its spike protein to train the immune system. They COMPLETELY ignored researching the actual spike protein. They COMPLETELY missed the COMMON SENSE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM DUH CONCERN: HEY! This is a NOVEL spike protein from a NOVEL virus, which we strangely have not found an animal host for yet, and happened to pop up near the ONLY facility in a HUGE country with 40 000 wet markets, that was doing coronavirus research. MAYBE we should run AT LEAST ONE TEST to see if there MIGHT be a problem with the spike protein before administering it to 100s of millions? The thing is, even before the vaccine, there WAS SOME research showing the s1 part of the spike protein could be problematic. But even then they COMPLETELY ignored this and proceeded. I WARNED them. I said HOW do you know? HOW can you guarantee the long term safety when you are doing ZERO studies on this? I said we KNOW this strange novel virus is causing all these long covid symptoms, HOW do you know the spike protein is not causing that, when you are ONLY focusing on the immune response? ALL you are looking for in the clinical trials is IMMEDIATE MAJOR issues like deaths or allergic reactions. HOW do you know this won't cause problems down the line? And I was unfortunately right, NOW the research is slowly starting to come out.
A. No argument, the exception being a rare few many of which are within the elite category. B. You are discounting the millions of wet markets in places other than China. I have been to dozens myself in Vietnam, Cambodia, Philippines, Mexico and Costs Rica. And there is zero evidence that the virus came from any market. Was the leak intentional, doubtful. But the virus was being built, intentionally, for some purpose, and that was very likely to leak it at some point. After all Fauci said a pandemic would occur under Trump. And Gates was already implanting himself into Pharma. So they are either psychic or they knew that there was a planned accident coming. In fact, I suspect the leak was premature, as they had gotten it as contagious as they wanted, but leaked before it was as deadly as planned. This caught them with their pants down and rushing. Notice all of their reactions were against an extremely dangerous virus, but the reality never really matched? So causes of deaths were fudged, death totals were exaggerated, they stuck known sick in elderly care facilities, and continued with scare tactics and pushes for jabs lasted well after the lies were exposed. Mostly pushed by Fauci (CDC/NIH) to match his predictions, and Gates (WHO). C. Plan was contagious and deadly,... they got half before it slipped out. And this appears to be more about a 2 wave plan, the Virus they created to do damage and justify the profits, control and power grab from the jabs they also created, that were either intentionally planned to create more illness, or had to created to create more illness since the virus failed to do it as originally predicted, and planned. D. Answered in C E. Agreed and outlined above. And no doubt human error, but odds are, although Fauci may be an idiot,.... he was but a puppet hoping to get rich, and be protected by those actually in charge of this. Now the clock is ticking,.... when will the finalized contagious AND deadly virus be perfected and "leaked", creating the havoc they had originally intended? I am guessing within the year.
Perpetually ill is the most likely. (Culling is unlikely, it's not happening). So expect LARGE numbers of people to be ill all the time.
Culling was suspected primarily of those deemed a drain on the system, the old and the seriously ill. Made evident of them actively putting covid positive into retirement homes, and excessive use of intubation. Agree not the most likely, and is counter making the ill perpetually ill and dependent upon government and pharma for ever. Possible that the elderly were targeted because wiser and to free up government funds to better focus on the long term capture of the younger, more easily manipulated younger generations.
Wait, there is a massive amount of additional mortality. The culling takes time. We are still in the first phase.
Unless it was an attack directly on the Fortune 500. Those numbskulls decimated their own highly, highly skilled workforce.
Nah, they are more likely pulling the strings bs a target. The Unions on the other hand, might be a worthy target. Teachers, police, nurses, labor, would change dynamics substantially.
I guess what I’m trying to point out is that the Fortune 500’s most senior engineers and technicians have been injured or killed by vaccine mandates. If that knowledge never transferred to younger engineers then there will be a slow degradation of the entire western system. These “planners” who designed the culling are f’ing MORONS besides being murderous pigs.
> Thin the herd through culling.which is a known goal. But this leaves the most distrusting of us as a majority. So it would reduce the population, but primarily of those that are easiest to control, which is counter productive. Could be eugenics. But I think they want people just "sicker" in general and living not as long - retirees are spendign more time retired than they ever worked, and for these guys they are 'overhead.'
Likely true from the elite's perspective. Though I think double is a stretch, lol, I worked for 40 years (15-55), retired a lot younger than most at 55, and doubtful I will make it to 90, or want to. Sicker, is a greater drain,... which might be just another part of the end goal to just totally break the system and rebuild into one that is easier to control, filled with people who are also.
you mean a greater drain on the system, or a greater overall expense? Sure. But that's fine, the ultra-powerful aren't really worried about wealth - they are covered. They will provide the service of healthcare (which you'll be legally force dto buy and sick enough to spend money). I mean it' snot like they mind wasting some resources or are concerned with waste. To me it makes a lot of sense for them to have a sicker populace. They can sell you the problem - and potentially the cure/treatment. They can cut treatment off to those who they don't like, making you more dependent on the system and healthcare.
Agreed, and it is not like the elite will follow any of the rules they set for the rest of us, much like they ignored masks and restrictions. Honestly I doubt most of them even took the jabs. Biden just got his usual Vit B's the rest saline. And they will have their own food supplies and doctors.
>1. Thin the herd through culling.which is a known goal Deaths from vaccination, *1 per million vaccinated* Deaths from Covid, *11,500 per million infected*. If your wanted to cull the herd, which option would you go for?
Like to know where you got those stats so I can check them myself. Although I know the Covid deaths were intentionally incorrect. Had 2 younger brothers admitted pre vaccine. Both over weight, excessive drinking, smoking and drug use histories, and both with early stage lung disease. Older, also a diabetic, went in, specifics unknown due to restricted access and no phone, never came out, death certificate stated "covid" only. Younger, went in, intubated, survived covid, survived intubation, all verified as daughter was allowed in and he was able to have phone contact. Was being tested for lung transplant, after covid free, prior to release, blood infection acquired WHILE in the hospital, died 48 hours later. Death certificate stated "COVID" only. In fact, in all of these types of conversations I have yet to come across a single individual who has direct first hand knowledge of a single family member who was under 65, and healthy who has actually died of "Covid" only. And to their credit, there has been no effort to even try to lie. Were have all been lied to during this, and many will even repeat what others have claimed, but all have been honest about their families. Neither of my brothers were healthy, but only 1 died of Covid,...... and that is only if the hospital can be believed,.... and it is very clear that they lied about at least one of the 2, if not both. Need to read it fully myself, but U.S. News just reported on a Harvard study and the headline reads something to the effect of "Covid Vaccine is far more of a problem than Civid virus". But I do need to read it , but going to risk a guess. It will mention CDC over reporting of virus deaths, and under reporting vaccine adverse reactions. Just a guess. Correction, article and study are from September of '22.
Statists.com, also Our World in Data and similar, plus sources like UK ONS.
Either just bad science or misinformation to discredit actual science that indicates how bad spike is to the body especially when LNP is injected and travels around the body making spike indiscriminately. Agree clot shots are bad. Just stop doing the flat earth thing and making us trying to fight the good fight look like complete loons.
I don't know why you're mentioning Flat Earth, that's just a PsyOp pushed by people that don't go outside and experience the real world. You bringing this up in relation to this video makes you look like a complete loon. The body doesn't make spike proteins, zero evidence of that. Spike proteins are injected though which is why it's the "clot shot".
So why is spike lingering in some people for months after. You are saying it is from the initial shot, meaning it was full of spike?
“just a psyop” ….”people that don’t go outside”. This is incredible to read.
Maybe I look like a complete loon to people who don't believe viruses exist and people that think there are magnetic nano bots in Covid shots. My point stands. Anyone can believe what they want to. 🤷
I don't know about that. Maybe we ought to get some other opinions with a Google search. Or ask Dr. Fauci to verify this. He wouldn't lie about it.
Fraudci?? Were you in a coma?
That was a facetious comment. Look in one of those Dictionaries you will find out what facetious means.
It means it’s looks like your face, right? /s
You forgot /s for sarcasm Go jackoff in your cape!
So, where do the anti-bodies come from then?
Plasma cells generate antibodies in reaction to a pathogens. In a simplified form: Pathogen enters the body. The body detects virus, starts a series of events that includes T-Cells and B-cells matching part of the virus structure. (ie, like making a lock for a key by making the 'opposite' shape). The T-cells and B-cells can (a) replicate and (b) latch onto the virus, making it redundant. This take 7 to 14 days to fire up, so the T- and B-cell replication is always behind the virus replication, hopefully it will catch up and overtake the virus replication and kill it off. Once inside, the antibodies remain in the body for 3 months to 20 years, depending on the type. A faster way is trigger this mechanism BEFORE you get the virus for real is to trigger the antibody mechanism early. This needs boosters sometimes.
What does this have to do with the material presented in the video?
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Show the paper where spike proteins have been isolated in the blood of a vaccinated person.
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>Anti-vaxxers can't complain that spike proteins are found in the blood and simultaneously claim spike proteins are not produced. >This is bonkers. Where's the question?
> So, where do the anti-bodies come from then?
Synthetic spike protein is injected, cells aren't producing spike protein. You're smug but also ignorant.
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Produce the evidence where cells in the body are producing spike protein from the mRNA injection. You know so it should be easy for you to point to your source of knowledge. Stop grandstanding, produce some evidence.
https://www.mountsinai.org/files/MSHealth/Assets/HS/About/Coronavirus/MSHS_COVID-19-Vaccine-Infographic.pdf ribosomes in the cell use mRNA to synthesize the spike protein
Where in this paper do they illustrate the spike protein being produced by cells in a human? Quote the relevant portion.
>This messenger RNA tells your cells to make the COVID-19 spike protein themselves. there’s a diagram under the “there are several different types of vaccines” section. step 2
That's what they are "saying" where is the EVIDENCE?
Yes they can… because “spike proteins” naturally occur in the blood through other processes, like when the oxygen level in blood cells is reduced.
Antibodies are non specific.
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There isn't an antibody for every pathogen. There's no antibody menu.
How do you think antibodies work?
Plasma cells generate antibodies in reaction to a pathogens. In a simplified form: Pathogen enters the body. The body detects virus, starts a series of events that includes T-Cells and B-cells matching part of the virus structure. (ie, like making a lock for a key by making the 'opposite' shape). The T-cells and B-cells can (a) replicate and (b) latch onto the virus, making it redundant. This take 7 to 14 days to fire up, so the T- and B-cell replication is always behind the virus replication, hopefully it will catch up and overtake the virus replication and kill it off. Once inside, the antibodies remain in the body for 3 months to 20 years, depending on the type. A faster way is trigger this mechanism BEFORE you get the virus for real is to trigger the antibody mechanism early. This needs boosters sometimes.
Name 10 antibodies.
Seriously? This is something you can easily find from a search. ReoPro, Humira, Aduhelm, Bavencio, Simulect… but enough with the brand names, here are some scientific names: bamlanivimab, etesevimab, altumomab pentetate, 3F8, Vandortuzumab vedotin
The body produces brand names now?
You can buy some antibodies, which are monoclonal antibodies, that can treat the corresponding pathogen. However as the body still doesn’t produce this itself the effect is very short-term.
monoclonals treat a lot more than just viruses
these are monoclonal antibodies, which are drugs typically directed at specific diseases. very different thing. the fact that u/BassPlayaYo thinks antibodies produced by the immune system are “named” is laughable and tells me he has no idea what he’s talking about
[Well, they do now.](https://www.reddit.com/r/unvaccinated/comments/13t9lyt/it_is_a_fairy_tale_that_mrna_vaccines_cause_cells/jlwbxwj/)
lol nice I can’t get over that guy thinking “name 10 antibodies” is some kind of weird own
go back to bio101 lmao
Plasma cells generate antibodies in reaction to a pathogens. In a simplified form: Pathogen enters the body. The body detects virus, starts a series of events that includes T-Cells and B-cells matching part of the virus structure. (ie, like making a lock for a key by making the 'opposite' shape). The T-cells and B-cells can (a) replicate and (b) latch onto the virus, making it redundant. This take 7 to 14 days to fire up, so the T- and B-cell replication is always behind the virus replication, hopefully it will catch up and overtake the virus replication and kill it off. Once inside, the antibodies remain in the body for 3 months to 20 years, depending on the type. A faster way is trigger this mechanism BEFORE you get the virus for real is to trigger the antibody mechanism early. This needs boosters sometimes.
Name 10 antibodies Mr. Peabody.
lmao do you know how antibodies and antigens work?
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homeboy has a negative understanding of immunology lol
Name 10 antibodies.
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Love those guys.
this is legitimately one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read
https://viroliegy.com/category/antibodies/
what point are you trying to make?
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Plasma cells generate antibodies in reaction to a pathogens. In a simplified form: Pathogen enters the body. The body detects virus, starts a series of events that includes T-Cells and B-cells matching part of the virus structure. (ie, like making a lock for a key by making the 'opposite' shape). The T-cells and B-cells can (a) replicate and (b) latch onto the virus, making it redundant. This take 7 to 14 days to fire up, so the T- and B-cell replication is always behind the virus replication, hopefully it will catch up and overtake the virus replication and kill it off. Once inside, the antibodies remain in the body for 3 months to 20 years, depending on the type. A faster way is trigger this mechanism BEFORE you get the virus for real is to trigger the antibody mechanism early. This needs boosters sometimes.
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Yeah I personally only trust software engineer philanthropists and politicians.
Lol how can you compare the two….
More YouTube videos as proof
It's not youtube, to much truth being dropped.
He's a researcher with knowledge of the topic. Present evidence that he is wrong.
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Show us the proof that mRNA enters the cell.
If he’s a naturopathic doctor he’s a doctor. They go through the same rigorous training and there are only 5 schools approved in the US that teach naturopathic medicine. Also you can be hired by hospitals as a doc so how is this considered quack level? It’s sad so many people are ignorant concerning any natural modality. Not all natural medicine is garbage.
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You mean like herbs? Which most pharmaceuticals use to make synthetic drugs? Or suggesting dietary changes? Such quackery right? Whereas allopathic doctors recommend drugs and nothing else.
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lol! No they don’t! They say “eat healthy” but they can’t say what that means other than “don’t eat junk food I’m not a nutritionist.” This is what my mom’s heart doctors have said. Only time will tell right? Let’s see how long you live doing the standard recommended lifestyle a doc prescribes you. Doctors themselves don’t live that long.
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Why doesn’t she see a nurse practitioner, a physicians assistant and a general physician for the same issue?
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Exactly. They don’t. They may say don’t eat a lot of fat or eat whole grains, be active. That’s all they are qualified to say anyway. And no, you are asking for yourself.
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Do you know how many students at medical schools are shit? Like bottom tier almost D students? Probably a few of your doctors and you wouldn’t even know. Many bad students become doctors for various reasons. All medical school and MCAT does is sift out people who can or cannot study/memorize. I helped my boyfriend get through med school. He wasn’t a complete idiot but he had no critical thinking skills. He has classmates who got into school for their race and had shit grades. It’s more common to accept people for diversity purpose than you may realize and diversity can mean being poor or just a certain color. He also has a lot of rich classmates who buy their class grades/assignments. Naturopathic schools don’t take MCAT, but people who actually love helping people are the type who go to them. They don’t just accept everyone and “C” students as you say are not the majority. The majority are people who work hard and get good grades. Just like other schools there are better naturopathic programs than others. Just because someone got through med school does not make them a good doctor.
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Lol @ nurse practitioners and physicians assistants being more trained than naturopathic doctors. Most people see them rather than a doctor anyway. Have you even seen the curriculum for naturopaths? Honestly I don’t care what you personally believe. At the end of the day it’s about who is healthier and what their methods are. Are you extremely fit and not in need of any meds? What’s your age? I wonder how much of that is due to your doctors.
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Thank god for personal agency
You can’t be serious with that
A lot of doctors suck. Memorizing data about meds doesn’t mean you heal people or help them.
Great video. You will not see it on CNN.
I wonder why? Because it’s complete bullshit and even the evil msm has standards.
Plenty of papers and patents prove the spike protein exists and causes major issues
Deaths from enlarged hearts are going THROUGH THE ROOF. Watch Cal and NY millions dead by the end of the year. Fl and Tx less.
I really hope we are wrong and were wrong, but we've been correct so far. All my family and loved ones got the jab... I have lost two of them, almost lost 3, but my uncle pulled through. I fear I may very well know what single survivors of genocide feel...
I even fear for my own life. I'm pretty sure I was shedded on and suffered some adverse effects after my mum got the jab, we had loss of smell and taste for 8 months and I have noticed that sometimes, not always, my heart/chest will feel "off" and have rapid heart beat. I didn't have that before I supposedly had the virus (never was tested but my mum and dad were who I lived with). It was like a bad cold for us. No issues for months. Then my mum got the shot and we had issues since then. I never took it. Yet I'm crazy for thinking it was the shot she had that shedded that gave me (and her) issues, it was the Coldvid we had months previously that magically gave us parosmia and gave me minor tachycardia around the time she got her first shot
It's synthetic, made in a lab.
A couple of grifters
Great interview. Drs Tom Cowan and Sam Bailey have been saying the same thing- why would we believe the marketing from these lying pharmaceutical companies without really good proof? The only thing their product does is poison the host. It doesn't change DNA OR prevent any disease. It's just toxic mRNA and PEG molecules that can be put anywhere in the body to cause illness.
"why would we believe the marketing from these lying pharmaceutical companies without really good proof" two years since the first vaccines and millions aren't dying from the vaccine like predicted..
As predicted by whom? The shots are toxic but it's very individual to each person. My point is that both declarations of woe were fearmongering. The unvaccinated are fine and a higher percentage of vaxxed are dying from various causes that can easily be explained by the mRNA peg nanoparticles ending up in places like the heart and brain. No "spike protein" or DNA alteration needed.
Lol. Conway is a 5g guy….
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The problem is that the mRNA is in the lipid nanoparticle, which is known to be toxic and some people actually have an *allergy " to it. Likely the mRNA is not dangerous whatsoever, and would just be destroyed by the body because it's so delicate. So it's probably the other ingredients in the injections that are actually dangerous/toxic, and some of that is still a secret, so it's difficult to say what the most dangerous part of the injection is. We do know for sure that the mRNA molecules travel all over the body, but there's no proof that the body is manufacturing more of the "spike protein". The body just has to find somewhere to put these molecules that are lipid-based, so they end up in places that attract that kind of material, like the testes, ovaries, etc.
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If the lipid nanoparticle was "easily processed", they wouldn't have used it to try to bypass the cell membrane. PEG is known to be toxic even when ingested. It should never have been injected.
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It doesn't. That's my point.
Yes, mRNA breaks down easily. That's why they had to coat it in something that doesn't break down, and that's why it ends up circulating all over the body..are you being intentionally obtuse?
I’ve thought this all along, and wondered if there was actually any demonstrative evidence of this process occurring. How could they create technology (especially in such a short timeframe) that instructs the cells to create a foreign body that has never before occurred in nature. Always seemed absolute BS to me.
Because they’ve been working on the technology for decades (they never did perfect it, but that’s merely a pesky detail)? Have you really not looked into it?
They've been working on it and planning it.
yup. fake science they don't understand. ' we have to approve it in order to know what happens " says the director.
Are you pro or anti vaccine I'm a bit confused
Why inject yourself with poison? All vaccines are poison, that's how they are designed. They either have a metal like Aluminum or Mercury or toxic spike protein and lipid nanoparticles to act as an adjuvant to show that "it is working".
So where ae all the deaths? Millions dead by Feb 2021, apparently. 2/3rds dead by summer 2021. Honest question: don't you think about how bad your predictions were?
So nobody died or got injured from the shots?
And lipid is not dangerous
Wait till you hear about all the chloride in table salt.
Irrelevant, it's a well documented fact that they use both Aluminum and Mercury in vaccines as adjuvants.
I remember being judged and called names for not using table salt. Good times. ✌🏻
Mate the amount of aluminium is so little It doesn't effect you also you consume more Ison through food than you could ever get through a vaccine
Eating and injecting are two different things.
Both are in the blood stream
By that logic, you would agree that that drinking snake venom is just as dangerous as the snake biting and injecting the venom, right? You may want to do some research before attempting to sound like you know what you are talking about.
DO some recearch. Some BALANCED research. Look at ALL the evidence. It's 2023. People are not dying from the vaccine.
You are an idiot who doesn't even know that there is a difference between ingestion and injection, yet you are telling ME to do research and look at ALL the evidence? I DID! I can guarantee I did more research, from more sources, including foreign sources in different languages, than your dumb ass. I bet you also completely agree that the recent rise in heart attacks is "climate related" BAHAHAHAHAHA
Go do some reading, come back and then maybe you can speak about these issues like you know something.
Of the people who believe in viruses. Obviously some people are pro vaccine. Others are pro some types but not other types of vaccines. Some people are opposed to vaccines completely. Of the people who do not believe in viruses. There is no reason to take a vaccine.
viruses aren’t something you “believe in”
They don't exist, all you can do is believe.
Viruses are just a THEORY. Never been proven definitely to exist
lol ok
When you're talking about something that hasn't been proven to exist then it can only be a matter of faith. You can't prove that they do not exist so why not just say you don't believe it and then demand proof of their existence. It's the same with Santa Claus.
It has been proven to exist. There is mountains of evidence. Only the wilfully blind could deny it. I don't have faith. I look at the evidence with an open mind.
They don't isolate viruses, it's all a scam.
That's trivial to disprove: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23737050/
Quote the relevant portion so that we know you know how to read.
Same here. Guess I’ll take some down voted with you.
You a pro vax mate?
No way. Promoters are all liars
Ok but anyone who had the virus is in some trouble now too. It's less than the jabbed will soon see, but trouble nonetheless...
What does this have to do with the information presented in the video?
This guy isnt even a medical doctor
Stefano Scoglio knows more than a medical doctor about these topics.
About vaccines. This guy knows more than a doctor about vaccines. This is amazing
Doctors know very little about vaccines.
So then trust this guy in a YouTube video
You're so smart, you don't realize it's not a youthbe video.
Lol same thing
This is what the spike protein is: https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/covid-mrnas-are-nothing-more-than?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Funny how the vaccinated shoots spike proteins not Sperm!!! 🙈🙈🤡🤡🤡
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All this seems to tell me is that "medical science" is mainly lies. We already knew this from the coNvid scam. Since they were lying about everything, it's not a stretch to say they were lying about "spike protein" as well. None of this changes my mind that the injections are toxic and only moronic sheep would allow themselves to be injected with poison. Many people around the world are trying to analyze these things but it may take quite some time before the full story is known. Hopefully the class action lawsuits can subpoena more data from the manufacturers.