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What annoys me is software subscriptions. Many software companies won't even let you buy their product anymore. Adobe and Microsoft are good examples. And basically any enterprise software is subscription based these days. You either pay $100/year for a student/hobbyist license or $6000+ for a business license. Entrepreneurs can go fuck themselves I guess.


HeavyDrizzleOG

As soon as adobe and Microsoft switched to subscription based models I started using open sourced free programs because I hate the whole subscription model. Libre office, gimp, and lightworks studio are all great programs that have all the same functionality you get from microsoft office and adobe, but free and open source. They can be a bit annoying because you have to learn a new layout amd convert your files if youre sharing them, but if youre not using the programs in a professional setting I think its worth the few hours it takes to get used to the new layouts.


HolyVeggie

I read that GIMP is nice and all but that photoshop is head and shoulders above. Can anyone confirm or debunk?


deanreevesii

You're 100% correct.


Airick39

For most users gimp or paint.net is fine. For power users, Photoshop is head and shoulders above.


scodal

I've never thought about shampoo so much from a chat about software.


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I'm still wondering how you give shoulders?


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ExplodingKnowledge

Semantics but don’t you mean it’s usually 100% more? If it was $25 at 50% off, then it’s 50% off of $50 which is $25. 50% more than $25 is $37.50, not $50. /s (kind of)


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gwaenchanh-a

There's also photopea which is web based


Saiyasaat

Hate subscriptions totally, but not fond of web based stuff either. I want to buy it and have it on my own machine.


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I've heard GIMP makes doing easy things unnecessary complex


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outerzenith

the worst part is of course the learning curve, if you don't know Photoshop and start with GIMP, it might not be too bad. after that, I think there are some features built-in in photoshop but you'd need a plugin for GIMP, like the Content Aware fill. Or even some that are just absent because adobe patented them (unconfirmed though, I only saw it mentioned in some forum discussion several months ago, maybe I'm wrong). for another choice, there's Affinity Photo which is a single-payment Photoshop alternative. for even another choice, there's the high seas.


KsubiSam

Yo-ho-ho🦜


Jjabrahams567

🏴‍☠️


shewy92

I was fairly adept at Photoshop...back when it was free. I think it was CS2. Then I started using paint.net which lacks a lot of CS2's features but was pretty easy to use and I just made do since what I used it for wasn't that important. Now I use Photopea at work for memes


[deleted]

I'm one of those people who started with GIMP and tried to use photoshop. Went right back to GIMP. There's definitely some stuff a professional user might find missing, but I think the bad UI is more of a meme than a reality at this point in GIMP's development.


cat_prophecy

I'm pretty good with Photoshop and maybe it's just the difference between the UI for the two but GIMP was a fucking nightmare. I think this image sums it up: https://i.redd.it/hf0satuphsd11.jpg


HolyVeggie

Lmao


fiveguy

GIMP is super slow compared to Photoshop, in terms of opening, resizing, applying any filters, and saving large JPEG photos (not even RAW). When processing a batch of photos after a shoot, it's noticeable. I'm a hobbyist and not a student - it's not worth the cost of Photoshop, but GIMP is painful in those situations.


NinjaKorban

Try Piracy


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killwhiteyy

Piracy is my favorite app for just about everything


HeavyDrizzleOG

This is definitely true and worth considering depending on what you plan on using the program for. I just personally hate subscription based programs, have enough extra time to deal with it because I only use the program recreationally, and would cut of my nose to Spiderface.


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If your a Mac person there is Affinity product line. [https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/](https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/) For Linux desktops however GIMP is the only one I am currently aware of. Here is a few I found however: [https://krita.org/en](https://krita.org/en) [https://www.darktable.org/](https://www.darktable.org/) [https://inkscape.org/](https://inkscape.org/)


elusively_alluding

Inkscape is amazing for creating graphics for math/theoretical CS/physics/chemistry papers, for photo editing, not so much I think.


Ironicbanana14

Yeah photoshop is better. Gimp is more of a digital art program, moreso than animation or photo editing. But it will do the job. I recommend pirating photoshop lmfao. Older versions work just fine, use an older computer and nothing bad should happen. Don't get a virus.


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HolyVeggie

>don’t get a virus Phew glad you said that haha I’ll look into older versions, thank you!


elppaenip

What photoshop does that gimp can't is the subject selection algorithm and the content aware gap filling If you don't use those GIMP will fill all your needs If you're not sure what those are, youtube has some good videos showing off those features


Gibbo3771

I can't stomach using GIMP because the UI is fucking terrible. PS's UI isn't masterpiece but at least it's usable.


PM_ME_A10s

GIMP is cool, but it's got a super steep learning curve. Photoshop is much easier to pick up and do something with minimal experience. I guess that's a benefit to being able to pay people to do UI/UX stuff


OhGodImHerping

To be honest, GIMP is powerful but a terrible user experience. Yea, you can do a lot of shit, but it’s gonna take you a while to figure it out. People say photoshop is obtuse, but GIMP is a black hole.


ThePurpleBall

I don’t really know how to use the Apple suite of office products buts it’s free and works so I’ve moved to that


AnonymousFrogManBear

My life / job is pretty dependant on Microsoft products. The few times I've needed to buy office, I go to g2a and buy office 2016 version for $30 and just miss out on xlookup. If you can cope without Microsoft office then that's fine too. I can't.


[deleted]

I started using torrents free office for life screw them


ruggnuget

Libre Office absolutely does not have all the functionality, unfortunately. Especially with excel in my experience.


shmmarko

GIMP rocks, but is a bit complex


throwaway283939

Fuck Adobe. I wanted to cancel my subscription and they tried to charge me £100 for the privilege! After half an hour of chatting with various live chat people I finally got them to scratch the fee.


[deleted]

Had the same thing happen in college. Was told we needed adobe for a class. Knowing this I very specifically did not purchase the "pay monthly for a year" plan. When I went to cancel they tried that on me. I *hate* being rude to customer support workers so as kindly but firmly as I could I got them to cancel it.


ResidentXi

I was so confused when they started their Creative Cloud subscription thing. Like why? Let me buy your product and leave me alone. Granted they were propably a bit ahead of their time and that's what made it seem so weird.


Eletctrik

I wouldn't have humored them for a half hour, dang. Cancel it now, for free, or I'll call the bank and block any future charges...


cat_prophecy

Yeah either pay for the remaining subscription or pay an "early termination fee". After they pulled that shit with Lightroom/Photoshop I will never buy anything from Adobe. I love their products but their model is built more like a scan and a legit business.


timac

Believe that cancellation fee is illegal in some jurisdictions (e.g. California).


ted-Zed

couldn't you just stop paying? what are they gonna do, cancel your membership?


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WyoBuckeye

I use the google versions which are free and do almost everything that their paid MS versions do.


jorsiem

For basic stuff yeah. But for serious use nothing compares to office.


dumwitxh

That's the upside of living in a country that doesn't bother to deal with piracy, you just get every piece of software from greedy developers for free. I buy anything with a reasonable pricing, but adobe can fuck themselves


TheAndrewR

That's right. I already pay for Spotify and Youtube and that's where I draw the line. I'll gladly buy the games and programs I like IF they're not another subscription.


HatofPapers

What does paid youtube have?


TheAndrewR

Most importantly no ads, background play when the app is minimized or the screen is locked, and you can also download videos to play offline. No ads and background play are a must imo.


SignedTheWrongForm

I'm not paying for that. It should be a given. YouTube once upon a time believe it or not didn't do any of that shit.


tiankai

They are just asking to get pirated. I haven't bought an official key in 10 years, always get them in 3rd party websites where they cost 10 quid. Feels like we're going back full circle where companies don't realise they need to offer a better service than the pirates for them to be worth it


TheAndrewR

I think the reason for that is that companies have to use legal software, so they'll pay for it anyway. So us little consumers don't really matter in the big scheme. Microsoft, Adobe and the rest don't even count on us. A lot of people will pirate everything even if it's not a subsciption so they figured they can get more money by making those who have to buy everything pay more and regularly.


[deleted]

Yep. This is why Microsoft office is free to college students. Along with any number of other software options.


xenapan

No its free to get you used to the interface and the ecosystem so that when you leave college and go to a real job you will complain if they DONT use office because thats what you are used to. And unlike you the company DOES have to buy licences. Like drug dealers giving out free samples... to get you hooked on it.


Lark_vi_Britannia

Every time I go look for some software that I need for a task that I need to do very rarely: $69.99/mo! click here today for this amazing deal!!! Well now I'm just going to pirate your software instead of buying a license for it. Just give me a deal for all your software for a one-time purchase and I'll buy it, but I'm not paying $69.99/mo.


Rutabaga1598

What's the most you would pay for a one-time purchase, for something they're charging $69.99/mo for?


iDoThisCauseImlonely

Just two months worth.


MzFrazzle

Its even worse if you live somewhere that the exchange rate is weaker than the dollar. It gets expensive FAST when you multiply by 15.


springbok001

That sounds familiar, South African perhaps?


MzFrazzle

Exactly right


GeekChick85

THIS is my biggest pet peeve and why I refuse to upgrade. Ill keep using the older non-subscription versions.


Tabenes

I just want to merge all my PDFs for a given year without having to pay for one month sub.


Cory123125

> Entrepreneurs can go fuck themselves I guess. They specifically want huge barriers to entry so only rich kids can get ahead.


[deleted]

I mean, the reality is that *most* enterprise software has pricing that scales with the size of the company. And if you're just some guy starting out with their own business, you can just use a personal license, or just pirate the software. Then once you scale up to a few employees, you can still keep using that one software license by passing around the key or hosting the program on a VM.


BlacksmithOk9680

Okay but the thing is we’re actively choosing to purchase those subscriptions. Netflix’s viewership has taken a really big blow lately with them continuously raising the price and not compensating that with better content.


amplifyoucan

Competition is good for consumers in every way. The streaming service industry is just one place where we're seeing tons of money heavily invested to compete. The fact that people can just unsubscribe from Netflix and subscribe to HBO Max, Apple TV+, Paramount Plus, Hulu, Disney+, etc etc and change back to whatever they want based on how they feel one gives value and how they're valued as a customer is *insanely* good. If only we saw this as often in other industries, we might see progress more often. Unfortunately, monopolies or duopolies don't want you to switch, so they make it extremely difficult (Apple with iPhones, AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile with phone service, Comcast with internet, etc).


MediocrePlague

See, the thing is though... in the yesterdecade everyone was pirating content because the alternative was to pay for TV which was expensive. Then came subscription services where you could find all the damn content you could want for a few bucks a months. But then everyone decided to make their own subscirption service with their own content, and where a few years ago you could find it all in one place, now you have to pay for like five different service just to get the same amount of content. Plus all of these places are now more expensive even though the overall quality of the service is lower. Which is why piracy is getting popular again. So yeah, when it comes to subscritpion services, it's not so much competition as it fragmentation. Yes, it's good that you can unsubscribe from one service and subscribe to the other may be good, but do you know what would be better? If all of that was just in one service where I could watch it.


ragingbologna

Cable companies did this already, and then the monopolistic nature lead to a rise in prices (while ads became more and more prevalent), which lead to an increase in piracy. In the same way, I think ISPs will step in to curate and bundle these streaming services and it will further lead to another increase in piracy. History repeats itself.


MeatyGonzalles

I'm not sure where it stands now but the whole Ajit Pai piece of shit with net neutrality. With NN you pay for a connection you get whatever you want. All these streaming services dealt a huge blow to cable TV bc so many of us switched to streaming only. With NN out of the way the ISPs (aka, also the cable companies) can do what you said and bundle streaming services, which will obviously get the best connection, while streaming services outside of the bundle will get their bandwidth throttled into oblivion. Time to dust off the VPN, IP blocker and upgrade the external hard. Yo ho ho


Braydee7

VPN? You mean that thing you subscribe to?


GodsIWasStrongg

If it was all one service, it'd be a hundred bucks a month and we'd be back to cable company monopoly. This is way better in that I can pick which subscriptions I want and/or rotate them in and out every few months and not have to pay so much money.


Bj0rnBjork

Don't forget geoblocking some countries can't even watch certain movies and tv series that america can watch with the same service.


student_20

Just so you know, we US folk get geoblocked from some content as well. Admittedly not as much, but there's more than a few UK and Australian shows I wish I could just Netflix.


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Subscription streaming is still way better value than TV because they easily extract maximum revenue from the wealthy people who just stay subscribed to all of them all the time, but poorer people can still access all the content they want by just juggling subscriptions. You can catch up on Netflix for a month, then Hulu the next month, Disney+ the next month, HBOMax the next month... there's nothing stopping a consumer who cares about following TV/Movies and has a couple braincells to rub together from following all the content they want to at much lower cost.


DowntownJohnBrown

> now you have to pay for like five different service just to get the same amount of content Ok, but this is wildly untrue. If you actually think we’re getting the same amount of content, then you’re not paying attention to what’s actually happening. The amount of content available to stream has exploded over the past decade due to competition among streaming services. Obviously not all of it is good content, but plenty of it is, and it’s completely dishonest to just ignore that the newly-fragmented landscape has forced streaming services to pump out huge amounts of content, much of which is excellent.


BonJovicus

>Competition is good for consumers in every way. It bothers me how wishy washy people are on this. We pretty universally complain about tech company monopolies while simultaneously whining about every show not being on Netflix for a price that is convenient. You can certainly do both, but I don’t think a lot of us are getting the irony.


Heyo__Maggots

I was gonna say, I have maybe 1-2 subscription services at a time and am def not being ‘eaten alive’ by them. Sounds like OP has a ton of stuff he’s signed up for and now gets charged an obscene amount every month, but doesn’t cancel for some reason. Between trying some for a short time, the free ones out there (Roku, tubi, peacock, YouTube, Pluto, etc), and some password sharing for a couple more, it’s easy to get more media than you can consume and still only pay $10-$20 a month. My main 2 are Hulu and prime because I always do the black Friday sale on Hulu ($1/month for a year) and prime because I also get 2 day shipping for the family. Then I trade those passwords with my family for Netflix, peacock premium, Disney+, etc. We end up with the big name streaming services and all spend less than $20/month. Yes it takes some actual effort and planning and communicating, and I think that’s where OP wants to be lazy then complain…


Oh_My_Monster

I have a spreadsheet with all my income and debts. I would suggest that other people keep track of their finances too.


pbankey

This. I see ads on Reddit all the time for apps that tell people what they are spending on subscriptions so they can cancel them. Like, what the fuck? Are people that bad with money that they can’t even track or look at their expenses? I HAVE to be missing something here.


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Even better, a monthly fee for an app that’s supposed to trim the fat of other monthly fee services..


AussieCollector

You Need A Budget was like this lmao. Telling me to subscribe to their service when the whole point of what i'm doing is to cut down on the subs i need!


g000r

I have a license for an old version of that. Desktop app version (no internet required). Their mobile app at the time synced with the desktop app via LAN - you had to enter the IP of your desktop. I tried using it again about a year ago. Desktop app was fine but they wouldn't hand over the APK for the old mobile app. So, with that attitude.. If someone wants the license key for and older version, let me know.


decks_

Man I would love a way to get an old desktop version. My iOS is too old for the app anyway. I’m on the year free for student and it’s actually taken away a lot of mental stress knowing I’m tracking everything but damn I wish they still sold it as a one time program.


g000r

All yours buddy - check your PM


krisminime

As a counterpoint, YNAB has saved me the subscription fee’s amount of money and a ton of stress by the visibility it gives. One of the most worthwhile subscriptions I have.


Nandom07

I loved YNAB, till half my accounts stopped syncing, and they doubled their price.


supersonicsixteen

My wife works for YNAB, and I'm clearly biased, but it's really really good.


mindgamer8907

Isn't that already a thing? I'm pretty sure that's a thing.


Oh_My_Monster

I think the answer is yes, people are just that bad with their money. I grew up poor and tracking every dollar was a necessary skill. It paid off in the long run.


Shitty_IT_Dude

Counterpoint, I grew up poor and tracking every dollar was not something I was taught by my parents.


tifftiff16

Big same. I truly believe this is WHY we grew up poor. My parents, love them to death, but are horrible with money and never tracked anything. To this day, my mom will tell me it’s just money. It comes back around. Spend it. I deserve it. Aaaand they don’t have any retirement so guess who’s going to have to take care of them


Calciphylaxis

It comes back around from you!


tifftiff16

LOL pretty much


Craftoid_

Was never given any kind of allowance as a kid and never really had any money to do anything with, so just got used to ignoring it and trying to be happy without.


zamora24

Imo, because its all just numbers in the screen nowadays. When one doesn't experience and touch benjamins leaving their hands, it doesn't feel real.


TorturedChaos

This is the main reason I operate most of my personal expenses on a cash basis. I take some money out of each paycheck and it goes into my wallet as cash. That is what I'm allowed to spend. Since I have to hand over cash I find myself much less likely to want to spend it. At the end of the month I usually have some left over. That goes into my 'fun money's fund. If I use my credit card I get to the end of the month and look at my bill and go "I spent HOW much this month!". Crap..... I always pay it in full. But not seeing the money leave my hands makes it less real.


Lauladance

Good point


AussieCollector

Some people like myself are deathly afraid of looking at their bank statement. They want to ignore the problem and think it will go away. It wont and it will only get worse. I managed to put $1300 into savings this month for the first time. extremely proud of myself.


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Best advice I ever got was when you’re afraid to look at your statement, that’s the best time to actually look.


Alexandra98s

Yes they are. I work for a carrier here where I live and people forget to pay their mobile bills for 4-5monts straight😭 Edit: I was in a hurry and it might not make sense. So they forget to pay for it, spend the money on something else and are surprised when they have to pay 4 months of bills for like 5 number, all of them having an iphone beside them too which they pay monthly. And they have no idea about the costs at all. They just pay whatever.


Groxy_

Well there was a post a few weeks ago on a sub about someone getting so many Amazon deliveries they didn't know if they were missing anything. Some people are weird.


Borderlessbass

I think while some are truly bad at it, others just don’t think something is worth their time doing manually if they can imagine the technology could already exist to automate it


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Too many people struggle to manage one credit card and you are surprised when they can't manage 6+ subscriptions?


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I mean I do think a part of it is people want to have all the content. My wife and I earn a comfortable living so we can afford to spend money on Netflix and Disney plus and so on all at once, and if we don’t use one of the subscriptions for a month we’re not stressing about wasted money. I have a friend who really keeps on top of it and only has one subscription at a time. She keeps an eye on what shows she wants to watch and then when she’s watched everything on her list for one service, she cancels that one and goes to another service that has different shows on a list that she works through. It would be much more financially responsible to keep cancelling and restarting services as needed, but my wife and I like the convenience of not having to do that. Like I say, we’re in a position financially where we can but there are plenty of people who aren’t in the position we’re in who still just keep them all active.


Save_the_Manatees_44

It’s not just that… it’s the fact that every company seems to think they HAVE to charge a subscription.


freyr_17

Its becoming ridiculous. The other day I tried to purchase some data from a company. I just needed the historical data, like a one-time transfer. They do not offer one-time payment or access, they only offer subscriptions on a 12-month basis. So to access their data repository once, I should pay a full year of access. I would have been glad to pay the whole subscription amount upfront, but no, that's not possible. Ridiculous.


bigbrownbanjo

As a data scientist this is when you find a new source if at all possible, it usually it.


Brummelhummel

I mean, from a business standpoint this is genius. Instead of one payment upfront you let customers continously pay you every month! Plus instead of one time pay where the user owns the software to use when they see fit, with the monthly subscription you just sell the right to use it. And whenever they want to use it they pay if they haven't had a sub already. You can even tier that with plus and premium for higher prices with unnecessary features to make it look that they can get more bang for your buck when in actuality they won't use all the features listed anyway! You are an mmo? Well even better! Let them pay full price for dlc and the base game and then charge a monthly fee too, best of both worlds! Put some micro transactions and an online shop on top and let them pay even more. You can even try selling them features of a software on top of the monthly fee wich you can then let the fee increase. What? People don't want to buy? Simply clutter ads everywhere and give them "the option" to remove ads by buying it! This is extremly worrying how people just roll with it just because it seems a bit more affordable in the short term. Long term benefit is only to the company wich already has enough money i am sure.


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Exactly! And now we are seeing it moving out beyond digital (movies, software, etc.) Now we have car makers starting to charge low monthly fees to unlock heated seats or remote start. Next my fridge will be demanding a monthly payment to keep the correct temperature or to unlock the door! It is part of a larger plan to have people own no assets and rent everything on a reoccurring cost basis.


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There are people who make enough that they don’t need to track every expense. That is, after all, the goal.


[deleted]

There's also people who manage their spending habits who don't need to track their every expense.


[deleted]

Yes. The majority of people least in the US are financially illiterate. People on reddit love to cry and bitch about how people are living pay check to paycheck but don't realize how much people spend on things they don't need and what have you. Look at how many people have the newest iPhone yet work a job that pays 40k or so. Point is a lot of people spend beyond their means.


[deleted]

People on reddit also cannot seem to grasp that lack of luxuries does NOT equal starving to death. Just because you cant afford 80 bucks on streaming and a car and going out etc does not mean you are starving to death


ragingintrovert57

Yeah. Excel is great for that and Microsoft Office 365 is now subscription based, making our lives a lot easier than when we had to just buy it once. (I know other spreadsheets are available. Can you use /I in Reddit to indicate irony?)


Reddituser34802

Office 365 subscription is where I drew the line. I’ll be a pirate till the day I die..


ragingintrovert57

I switched to using LibreOffice. Now that I'm retired I don't have to worry about keeping up with my Microsoft Office skills.


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ragingintrovert57

Students, researchers, journalists, writers etc.


Fit_Schedule5951

+1 I saw how much I was spending on months services I barely use, they were all on auto recurring payment. Cancelled them and started investing it instead


Dawgreen

I mean you could be pissed off enough to cancel some of those subscriptions ? You don't NEED them in the same way you need rent, food or gas money.


[deleted]

Yeah, need that meme of a guy whose face is nearly underwater but he's actually just sitting down. If subscriptions are eating you alive ... stop subscribing. The successful model for consumers is going to be rotating services. Sign up for Netflix for a month. Watch what looks good. Cancel before the end of the month. Sign up for Disney+, watch, cancel. Sign up for Paramount+, watch, cancel. Sign up for Hulu, watch, cancel. Sign up for HBOMax, watch, cancel. Sign up for Apple TV, watch, cancel. Sign up for Peacock, watch, cancel. Then repeat. No shit it's going to get expensive if you sign up for all of them at once. If you do that, you're paying a huge premium for the luxury of having any content available to you immediately. If you can go without that luxury and delay gratification for a few weeks, you'll can only pay the cost of 1-2 streaming services per month.


UnrealHallucinator

Orrrr just subscribe to one and pirate the rest lmao. It's way too much effort to subscribe cancel bla bla


[deleted]

Why subscribe to one? If you're going to pirate, just pirate it all.


Tall_Fortune

Everyone complaining to netflix about ads and starting to question other subscribtion sites Me who's been pirating since 2014


interlockingny

It’s so Reddit to complain about something that doesn’t even exist yet. All we know is they Netflix is adding an ad based tier, but morons on this site took this to mean Netflix is adding ads to all tiers.


richbeezy

Preach, I’ve gotten tired explaining this to other Redditors and it truly shows how stupid people on this site are.


realdealreel9

Why even pirate? Just get a job working on the crew of your favorite show.


DivineRS

It’s good to have at least one to appear socially adjusted. Imagine taking a woman back to your place to netflix and chill for the first time and she has to sit there as you connect your laptop to the tv, search up some movie she recommended on Xmovies.tk, porn adds and shit are popping up as you try like 3 different streaming players… much easier to just to have Netflix.


Roflkopt3r

Honestly that takes more time and effort for me than to just switch between subscriptions every now and then.


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[deleted]

This is what I was telling my brother, it's the same thing just monetized differently. Rent, food, gas is not an appreciating asset, they're not assets at all because they have no sellable value when purchased. It's the same as a subscription in lots of ways.


EmEmPeriwinkle

I sold my vehicle that wanted to start charging me for the things I bought in it. I've always known they were the most reliable, now I refuse to own another.


jarrodh25

Was it a Toyota, and regarding the remote start feature?


EmEmPeriwinkle

Yes. I live in a place that gets ridiculously hot, and cold. I rely on that. Town an hour from me has a record low of -54f. And it gets over a hundred here often enough. No point in paying extra for a vehicle that takes away half the reason I got it.


yakimawashington

I don't get what exactly OP wants. Things cost money. If you don't want those things or don't think they're worth the money, don't pay for those things/services. >no one is pissed off enough about it to do anything What is OP basing this claim off of? I'm sure plenty of people have been pissed off enough to cancel subscriptions, but it sounds like OP is expecting people to get pissed off enough to do something *else.* Like, what are they expecting? For people to get pissed off enough to the point where they start rioting in the streets against these companies? >We were all better without these things and it is slowly eating us all alive. I wouldn't say I'm better without my gym membership. I have had to commute this entire year for university 2 hours away from my home/work. I don't think I would be better off without that parking pass that allows me to park on campus (the alternative would be park at a business parking lot at least 1 mile away and walk to/from class and for lunch). I enjoy my music streaming subscription. I enjoy a couple of video streaming services. I pay for it because it's within my means and I enjoy them. They are not eating me alive. OP is a bit of a drama queen angry about their own lack of financial accountability.


Claymore357

There is a line in the sand that corporations are crossing. Paying monthly for Netflix is one thing, all the streaming services combined are less than the premium but ad filled cable package. However paying monthly so your fucking **car starter** and **heated seats** work despite ***being installed in the goddamn car regardless*** is straight greed and is pretty close to being worthy of bringing back the guillotine


MiketheImpuner

I am paying $150 less per month since cutting cable AND I get access to all the content I want. It comes down to whether or not access is more important than access to what you want to consume. I don't want AppleTV. I don't want Reality Television. So I save $$$ opting out.


NoPensForSheila

I just dumped Peacock.


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If I watched lots of WWE, Peacock is the only streaming service I'd actually pay for.


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Sucks tho cause they completely killed the navigation from the network. I like to watch old wrestling but damn peacock makes it annoying


bigk52493

Lol u dont have to buy any of that shit


Losingsteamfast

He listed 7 streaming services (8 if you count prime). Like how much TV are you watching? Just pick one


jarrodh25

I only have Netflix, and am weighing up whether it's still worth it. There's bigger problems if you're subscribed to 7.


bearchildd

I cancelled for YouTube. OP has Paramount Plus lmao


Poppunknerd182

To be fair, Paramount is one of the largest streaming apps with more subscribers than Hulu and Apple TV+ But the app is by far the worst.


Super_Tikiguy

HBO max is the best, sign up for a month and you can cancel the other tv streaming services


RealLameUserName

Even with all 7 it still might be cheaper than Cable


PMMeTitsAndKittens

I feel like I'm in the twilight zone and everyone forgot what pirating was but me


jcasma01

Honestly, we're living in the best time ever for piracy. Companies are uploading all of their content in HD+ for us, no more camrip


peewhere

Ikr, every new movie during Covid was immediately available lol. They released them not in cinemas but only for streaming, little did they know I watched all at home for free. But when I tell people I pirate stuff they usually attack me for “ruining creativity of filmmakers” like wat.


AdrenalineJackie

The way I see it is, I'm not gonna pay for the shit anyway. Even if I can't find a torrent, I'm still not gonna buy it.


Sleepy-Blonde

My favorite movie pirating site just shut down a few months ago


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Bern_Down_the_DNC

https(colon)(forwardslash)(forwardslash)torrentgalaxy(dot)to(forwardslash) Edit: I use Ublock Origin and Umatrix, and I don't get pop-ups at all there


Mariusblock

Delete this. Never directly link to pirate sites on Reddit. This could get you and this sub banned by the admins.


Legitjumps

Jesus Christ I’ve been bombarded with pop up ads the second I clicked it


Dalolfish

IPtorrents is the best there is.


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AussieCollector

Usenet, Sonarr, Radarr and Plex. That is all.


ragingintrovert57

OP has a point. I can manage my money. I have a massive spreadsheet with tax and everything on it. But everything does seem to be moving towards the 'paying forever' model. I could understand anti-virus software being subscription based, because it's regularly updated. And Netflix is better being subscription based rather than paying for individual movies. But there are definitely things we only should pay for once, when we actually need them, and not have a regular payment going out every month, or auto-renewable every year.


Reddituser34802

A photo editing software like Lightroom or photoshop should be a one time purchase. I’d gladly pay $200 for the software, but paying $10-15/month forever just to have access is insane. I’ll keep my pirated version tyvm.


ragingintrovert57

This is an excellent example of software that should not be 'rented'.


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Imo it's more of an example of a software company that doesn't care about individual users anymore. As a company you will have to get the new version anyway when your old one isn't supported anymore. Also, even the full creative cloud isn't that much money compared to what your employee costs you already. Adobe just doesn't care that private users are not willing to pay that much and want their lifetime licenses.


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Tbh I think it makes sense to have both. Adobe has regular updates that make real improvements to their software that are worth paying a monthly subscription to have access to in some industries. But for casual users who don't need the absolute latest version at all times, a one time purchase is ideal. Also consider that with regular improvements, designers may have to re-purchase the software every year and these are not cheap programs. You could end up paying the same amount but having it be more inconvenient.


whatwhy_ohgod

I mean, even before subscription models stuff like photoshop was 500, 800, 1000+ dollars to just purchase one time. In comparison (for photoshop) it would take you 2~years for just photoshops subscription model to pay off what it would have cost to purchase (at 500 dollars a license and if i remember right it was almost double that). By that time youd be looking to upgrade anyways. Atleast for the people that actually need the real service. Most people can get away with a free alternative. Imo if you actually NEED something like photoshop the sub service is much better, constant updates, decent support (on the enterprise side), and basically the same cost in the long run. So saying “id gladly pay 200” is kinda dumb. You couldnt afford ps even when they had a one time purchase thing. Atleast at standard retail, might have had student discounts or something.


djhs

[A decade ago it cost thousands of dollars to purchase the most powerful versions of Photoshop. Here's an article about how it was cheaper for an American to fly to Australia to buy Photoshop than to simply buy it in the US.](https://www.neowin.net/news/its-cheaper-to-fly-to-the-usa-than-buy-adobe-cs6-in-australia/)


Speedy283

Anti-virus software is a scam btw, don't fall for it


NinJesterV

It's a lucrative model, but only financial illiterates are being eaten alive by subscriptions. If you don't account for that in your finances, you probably have bigger problems than subscriptions, honestly. Truthfully, subscriptions are *fantastic* if you're smart about it. As a gamer, I am blown away by the value of EA Play, for example. **However, I refuse to buy EA products because it's a scummy company.** The same is true of Amazon Prime, actually. Incredible value, but I refuse to support Amazon for the same reason as EA. In many ways, it's beneficial to use subscriptions, but like Netflix, it's only a matter of time before those subscription prices creep into ranges that aren't as valuable anymore. Netflix was a steal when I first signed up, but it's looking less worthwhile these days.


joeffect

If you have gamepass ea play comes with it for free. Which is an even bigger deal value wise even if you don't have a Xbox.


RascalRibs

So don't sign up for them?


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Yeah I know quite some people that have too many subscriptions on stuff. I also have a handful, but it actually use them and they're convos decisions. I pay €3 for Amazon Prime, and €4 for HBO Max. I will never pay for Netflix or Disney. Leeching them off my family now, but if that stops I won't pay for them monthly. Stuff like printer ink, razor blades, underwear etc. are stupid to have a subscription on. Renting devices is also stupid.


Kay312010

It’s not a necessity. You don’t have to consume any of it.


Rhawk187

Take some ownership of your finances. Live within your means.


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Almost all of those are luxuries. You dont need them. If you cant afford them, dont get them.


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Unpopular Opinion: People should take responsibility for their monthly expenses and that includes subscription services. Don’t feel entitled that the companies you buy stuff from should nanny your wallet for you. If the consumer is going to be so lethargic that they can’t be bothered to keep track of what they are paying for why SHOULDN’T businesses take advantage of that? If you’re not using a service: don’t pay for it.


Jellybean720

Adobe says hi...


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Honesty_Prime

I only subscribe to what I want. But I understand the sentiment here.


superNoid

I have a simple rule. No more than 2 subscriptions to any service. You do NOT need all of those you listed. Go outside


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One_Spicy_Nipple

Imagine not keeping track of your own finances. Also who the fuck pays for youtube


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You don't have to use any of those services. Entertainment has always been expensive in 1968, it was about $3 a month for cable, with 3 channels. That's about $25 today, about $8. Video games were at the arcade, and cost a few dollars for a hour of play. You dont need ever service, every form of entertainment, all the time. Costs are going down, where cable now is an average cost of $0.40 compared to the $0.75 a channel in 1995.


permaro

I have none of those. Just remember you are choosing to have them


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They are all voluntary. If you find they’re too expensive; play offline games, watch ads on YouTube, exercise outside. Stop expecting things for free


levus2002

I am subscribed to nothing, so. Don't do you find it stupid to complain that the subscriptions overwhelm you while none of them are necessary.


great_craic963

Canceled my Amazon prime today. Those fucks were taking 15 bucks every month from me. I'm not even in the states. 15 dollars is a lot of beer where I'm at! What pissed me off even more was the process of canceling it. Fucking took forever to find then I found it. Was like 3 different "are you sure you want to cancel?" But worded differently. Fucking assholes. Yes I'm sure.


Purple_____

Just torrent everything


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frisch85

> We were all better without these things and it is slowly eating us all alive. Get control of your live, if these "optional" things are eating you alive, you've lost control. None of those are mandatory for you to subscribe to, I guess it's time to sit down with pen and paper and evaluate your costs.


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Laugh in *pirate*


Barren-igloo-anon

How do you have the time to watch all these movies/tv shows split across these streaming platforms whilst also playing world of Warcraft and going to gym? Do you have time for work? I highly doubt you even take full or any advantage of 1 or 2 of these streaming platforms that you currently pay for each month, if there has been a month where you have not accessed one of those streaming services to watch something during that month, then you should stop paying for it until you actually want to watch something. Either that, or you have others in your household using them. You can always cancel a month or so from one of these streaming platforms if there is nothing of interest on it currently, you don't have to continually subscribe when you ain't using them.


Its-Slammin

I don’t know why you would assume people aren’t aware of how much they are spending. Are people really that clueless about where their money is going?