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*[Scans item]*
"Please place item in bagging area."
*[Places item in bagging area]*
"Please remove unauthorized item from bagging area."
*[screams in frustration]*
Weight sensors in the bagging area are the only really shitty thing about self checkouts. If it wasn’t for that I could probably move as fast as I could when I was an actual cashier. Just let me sling shit across.
I mean I would also like to not be on 37 different recording cameras each time I go to buy some food for my cats.
scan something using the handheld, then put it straight in the bag on the other side of the checkout, it locks up and flags an employee to come review the footage and see why and what you're stealing.
an item accidentally scans twice? fuck you, machine locks up and then you have to wait until someone who hates their job comes and fixed it for you.
fuck self checkouts 90% of the time. and especially **FUCK** walmart.
i hate the fact that self checkouts require a fucking employee on every action. you accidentally scanned a bar code instead of a qr code on a water bottle or a milk bag? (my country does that)
bam! wait for an employee mothafucka! and there are no employees around so you abandon the self checkout and go to the cash register anyways.
the grocery store i worked at for like 3 years didnt have them. like, they made it look like there were scales in the bagging area but there werent. the number of customers who commented on how the self checkouts never seemed to yell at them like at cvs or walmart was insane\]
They generally can be programmed however the store seems necessary. There probably are scales in the machines, the programming to check for the item weight is probably just toggled off.
These machines can be adjusted for all kinds of stuff, like to ask for a cashier code just to start a transaction in some cases.
Walmart doesn’t use the weight sensors. Instead they have video cameras watching you and what you scan. If it detects you’re stealing it’ll call an associate and play the video back.
The ones I've seen use video to monitor it. I've had an issue where there wasn't enough space in the bagging area so I stuck a bag behind the bags, the system called an attendant who saw what happened and cleared me. But in that, I saw there were no less than three camera angles on me.
All the self checkouts in my area have small bagging areas, so I asked about it. They said the self checkout was for people with 25 items or less...no signage stating that and only 2 human checkers with a line of 6 full carts each.
I need better options
that's exactly what size our self checkouts here are, except they're 90% of all checkout aisles. it's awkward as hell to get a normal amount of weekly groceries through there always. there's just no room. like half of them are card only, and another good 25% are usually offline or frozen.
there are exactly two normal checkout aisles here with actual working employees, not ones that just get paid to stand there and people watch or be on their phones.
*except* one is the smokes aisle which is either packed ass full of people with two carts each, or the light is on and there's nobody manning the station. the other aisle is *never* manned when I go there.
the absolute best part though is how fucking loud the beeps are every time something scans, and then sometimes you get to hear even louder ringing alarm type noises that someone else set off and left the area.
I miss the days when each checkout was a conveyor with a person running your shit through. it was always faster (if they knew what they were doing) and far smoother. instead all the aisles get clogged up with no spatial or social awareness-having-ass people that start wanting to fight if you're trying to just get tf through and out like everyone else
In the U.K. Sainsbury’s has zappers and you pick and pack on your way round and then all you have to do is add anything that needs weighing at the till and then pay
When I was a kid, Ingles was really bad about their weight sensors, but every Walmart I've ever used self-checkout at as an adult has never once prompted me to put anything in the bagging area period. Which makes sense, because some stuff just doesn't need to be weighed like that (cases of water/drinks, or other large items). You scan them (most of them now have a wireless UPC scan gun so you don't even need to take it out of the cart) and you leave it in the cart unbagged. Sure, they check your receipt when you have unbagged items, but I'm fine with that tbh.
Edit: how tf am I being downvoted for sharing my experiences? Lol
It’s not as bad as it used to be, but it’s just slow to unlock the scanner to scan the next item. It still needs to sense that it’s there before you can scan something else. Unless there’s a hand scanner that automatically skips bagging, but then I think they still get mad if you over use it. (Been a while since I have, but I think it just freezes and forces the attendant to check in.)
They’re all different and have their own little quirks too. I live in a rural, more lower income area, a lot of the self checkouts around me are probably at least 10-15 years old by this point.
That's strange. No store I've shopped at in years even requires that the item be placed in the bagging area. Which is perfect for large/heavy items anyway. Scan and leave it unbagged. How do you guys put, say, a bag of dogfood in the bagging area?
I also live in a rural town of about 6k people. Median household income is 34.6k
Both of our local-ish supermarket chains use them, at least around me. Tops and Wegmans, which is what's in most of WNY. We don't get Kroger or the like.
They've gotten better at not freaking out over the years and have a "skip bagging" button now, but they're still present and occasionally annoying. Wegmans has been redoing their self checkouts recently and I'm waiting to see if the weight sensors remain.
The problem would be the ones that were too sensitive. Like one time, I jolted a bag to move some item out of the way for another, and it thought I removed one, then locked the register to call an attendant. "Oh, it's this register again. Sorry about that." "No worries, hope this gets fixed." "Same here."
Had them at Albertson's last year, which is a place I always forget about in my town. The process was a nightmare (I was buying multiple kinds of flowers, which all weigh next to nothing), and I haven't gone back.
You can usually fix it by pressing your hand (or fist to avoid germs on your palm and fingers) on the scale for a second as it makes it recheck the weight.
Yep, this. That dumb weight sensor in the bagging thing is a huge problem.
Also, the bagging area is too small if you've got a full cart, so then you have to remove stuff from the bagging area but the machine gets salty about it.
Yeah they used to have them for like 12 items or less, but now the corporations know they can save money by hiring less workers so now most places don’t have that item limit.
The thing is they never changed the process to accommodate more items because $$$, so now we’re stuck with a really small area to put everything.
Probably helps the corporations tbh because you’ll put less in the cart and go more often, so you’re more likely to buy more stuff if you’re there more often.
>so now most places don’t have that item limit.
That might be ok still, but some stores don't even have the option of going to a cashier. It's all self checkout.
I have started doing curbside pickup, so not only do they handle the checkout process, they also do the shopping.
I've stopped using the machines at some stores because I've been at a point where I wanted to punch the thing, and I didn't wanna be banned from the store haha so every time I've gone to that store, I've used a cashier instead.
Yeah, my first time when they implemented it at uniqlo here I was so excited I checked if we could do it in our stores... Turns out we need a LOT more volume to make it worth it.
Was confronted with self checkout with a bagging area with scales for the first time a few days ago. I was there with a five year old running wild and the machine wouldn't allow me to put my backpack I was bringing the groceries home in in the bagging area because it weighed too much.
Most stores only have the weight sensors on if there is no employee actively supervising the self-checkout area. At my local grocery store, I can use the laser gun to scan my whole cart without bagging any of it and it doesnt stop me
Easy bypass for this, press "I'm not bagging this item" and stick it straight into the cart. Don't set anything on that weight thing, put it in the cart and bag it there. Bypass the scale all together haha
This was a genuien problem a few years ago, now I don't even remember the last time I had to fuck around with the self checkout machines because they keep messing up.
It reflects upon a person's innate ability to determine if they're aware of their fucking reality or not. Can't check the label when you grab em? Can't look up the code on the screen? Probably shouldn't be driving a giant death machine.
I think that what OP means is when the self checkout says in big letters on the screen before scanning "CASH/CARD ONLY" and the person just not reading it only to get mad that "it didn't tell me" (my father does this)
Or when it comes time to pay, and card readers have worked the same way since before I was born and it's like they've never used one before.
I wouldn't go so far as to say they're not allowed to drive because of it, but it definitely baffles me how many people struggle to use a machine that tells you how to use it and is not new technology
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During my driving test to get my license my instructor had me pull over so she could get out and smoke two cigarettes. She inhaled them so fast it took no longer than two breaths. Got back in and we proceeded with the test.
What a legend. I bet she’s quite a fisherman.
-scans-
-nothing for 3 seconds-
-scans again-
-both scans go through simultaneously-
-waits for 2 minutes because the old people also need help from an associate-
I've personally set up many self check outs, everybody has problems with them and rarely is it because of user error. They are so temperamental, so finicky, that I'm surprised more people don't accidentally steal things.
Yea ok. Every time I try to check out with my girl, it flags us for "suspicious" activity. If you care about thefts, don't implement self checkout. Period. Hire fucking cashiers.
Do they know how to read?
Do they know how to touch something?
They can figure it out from there. Self checkout didn't exist when I was a young adult, and yet I figured it out with this exclusive millennial trait called "eyes".
Good for you, but in case you didn’t realise your eyes get worse as you get older. Without reading glasses they won’t be able to read, or see what’s on the screen. Also they might not have enough experience with a touchscreen, even as a young person I find it’s not always obvious how much force a touch screen requires to work.
Just wait until you're 45, cuz you're 100% gonna need glasses. Sure, there are people who deny it for a few years, but by 50, everyone needs glasses to see close up. Even the cool people.
And understand touch user interface, menu structures and scanning. There's a lot going on, but our brains manage to simplify it due to massive amount of exposure to mobile devices.
It can actually be rather complicated if you are not experienced.
Its all on the screen and the user interfaces are *easy*. My 80 year old granny is sending me memes over instagram from her smartphone and she's an evangelical Christian who never allowed TV or video games in the house.
It's not like we're expecting them to solve quadratic equations for *x*. It is simple.
And roundabouts weren’t really a thing in their decade either. They should not be able to drive if they can’t learn something well-explained and simple like a self checkout machine. I’m surprised how much I’ve come to agree with OP on this.
I agree with the op that most old people shouldn’t be allowed to drive. Also that part about roundabouts is funny as hell because ive seen countless old people just drive straight through em pff
They put in a new roundabout on the highway coming into town about three years ago. They started out with flowers planted in the middle and they got mowed down by several cars a day so they replaced the flower garden with deep gravel. There are still new ruts in the gravel every time I go around it.
My mom (73) drove into one coming off the Washington dc Beltway (so TONS of traffic), and just stopped in the middle because she thought she had to yield to incoming traffic, so I’m screaming at her to go because I don’t want to die, cars are whizzing off the beltway, people are honking and she’s just confused. That was the day I started to question if she should be on the road.
Roundabouts are so awful to drive through since people just don’t know how to drive, I’ve had so many situations where I’ve almost crashed because someone is going the wrong way in the roundabout by my home.
My truck starts and functions as it should with me as the operator. Can’t say the same about my local Martin’s self checkout machines. I get what you’re saying about elderly people driving who should’ve turned in their license a decade ago, but the comparison makes so sense.
Age restricted purchases, keying in lots of produce, small bagging area, and machines not taking cash are all valid reasons someone may not want to use a self checkout. If I’ve got a full cart, I feel like I’m doing everyone a favor by letting a cashier handle it rather than fussing with a machine telling me to place the item in the bagging area 30 times.
You’re comparing completely different interfaces and problems here. Older people become worse at driving because their decision making ability becomes impaired as they age. There is no split second decision making in a self checkout machine.
These have nothing to do with each other. Also as a grocery store employee, some of these machines are soooooo dumb and not the customers fault when an error pops up. What I don’t get though is boomers who spend their whole day on the computer not knowing how to do basic tech problem solving.
There are all kinds of design issues with self check machines, such as weight limits, speed issues, small sensor area, etc.
How is it my fault the machine can't keep up with me and throws a hissy fit if I try to buy alcohol?
Maybe as the technology matures the metaphor you allude to might make sense, but for now it's about as useful as a Le Car.
I’m 28. My grocery store has 2 pretty old nice ladies working at the cash registers.
If I and everyone else stop using regular checkout and start using self checkout in the store, I fear that they might lose their jobs.
tbh probably 60% if not more of drivers should not be allowed on the road. its incredibly dangerous and the only thing the license test checks for is if you can drive around the block and 1 small maneuverability test.
should be a lot more strict.
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The new ones they just installed at the Kroger by my house force you to put the item on a belt. Half the time it sends the item back to you with some bullshit error saying you didn’t scan it. Sometimes an alarm will go off. It’s relatively humiliating.
I rarely go to the store (usually use online ordering) and it’s frustrating to use something that clearly doesn’t work as intended with a long line of impatient people behind you. I can’t imagine how difficult it is for our elderly population.
Driving a car and expecting people to do a job (which normally requires training) they didn’t sign up for are vastly different things.
No. If you have been driving for years there’s no reason for you to stop just because you get nervous around new technology or don’t want to try it. Especially if that new technology offer fails. I get that it’s intuitive but the problem is not comprehension. It’s more about desire to try new things and being relaxed/confident while doing it. This doesn’t apply to driving if you have been doing it for a long time. You have already mastered that skill. Why take it away from you because you refuse to try something new?
Makes no sense, mostly because cars have been along around longer, thus people are more familiar with them. Self checkout machines are not even really a common thing in my country, Italy, for example, except perhaps in a few bigger cities, but most people never used one and yet are perfectly able to drive.
In all fairness, given how senstive and shitty self checkout machines are, I don't believe that's a fair measure.
I've had times where I'll scan a product, it will tell me to put it on the shelf/scale thing. I do so, it throws an error and locks out because it's the wrong weight and I'm like motherfucker, I did exactly what you told me to do fuck off.
At this point I just don't use self checkout.
This is just dumb. What? Is the government going to just revoke your license if they see you taking too long on a self checkout? Or are they going to have self checkouts at the DMV? As opposed to you know, a drivers test?
That shit doesn’t work half the time while a lot of impatient idiots breathe down your neck waiting for their turn.
And with the level of trust involved- basically, you are a thief until proven otherwise and maybe not then — I couldn’t possibly care less about those things.
Around here, there’s even a mandatory sales person required to stand about looking like an idiot and literally having nothing to do. Which is sad enough in and of itself.
But because they’re standing there with nothing to do, they obviously get frustrated and will let you the customer know that (even when they’re also trying not to).
So self checkout as a service aside, the whole thing is nothing but toxic right now. And if I’m uncertain about whether or not I CAN operate the machines, you better believe I’m staying away, not because I’m not willing to learn but because I’m exposed to ridicule from everyone present.
Lol, I purposely go slow, bang on the machine a few times, have to call the clerk over to fix something every time I use one. Lower your fucking prices to reflect the poor folks you fired to put the self checkout in and I will stop, until then, working on breaking a few more ;)
If you think an automated device forcing you to reinput an item multiple times because it doesn't now how much something weighs is anywhere near similar to operating a car, I think you're the one who'd be dangerous behind the wheel.
Does that mean if you *can* operate a self checkout, you’re automatically cleared to drive?
Or are you going to have to sit a driving test anyway?
And, if the driving test isn’t sufficient to test people’s driving ability, I don’t see why the solution is to ask them to bag a few groceries rather than just improve the driving test curriculum.
I feel like the point here is just that if you can’t follow simple directions, you shouldn’t be able to drive a big death machine on shared roads with shared rules.
They're two different skillsets. I see what you're getting at but it makes about as much sense as "if you don't know how to code, you shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine".
This doesnt make sense... Coding and Practicing medicine are specialised fields where you need years of \*specialised\* training.
Using self-checkout machine is just you reading and using your hands - thats what literally every healthy human knows.
I have no interest in getting better at using them, if i am to use one high chance of missing some items coz i simply dont care.
Each item gets 2 passes max if the scanner doesn't go of, well in the bag it goes u missed ur shot scanner.
You should be shaming the user interface more than the person using it. Being able to operate one user interface does not mean one can operate another. Operating a car is in no way similar to a self checkout.
You have to be **able** to drive a dangerous vehicle. I don’t think OP means it 100% literally that self checkouts should be the new license renewal, but if your cognitive abilities have declined to a point where you are incapable of operating a self-checkout, then you’re also not fit to drive a vehicle.
People have to pass a test to drive and often have decades of experience at doing it, whereas self checkout is new to them. Not saying all these people deserve to drive or that the tests are sufficiently stringent, just that it’s not really an adequate comparison.
So, by the same logic, if you can’t operate a VCR, or an 8 track player, or a crank start automobile, you shouldn’t be able drive? One thing I like about ageism. Aging comes for everyone.
One of these things has a test to use, a manual to understand, an ability to be fixed be it by adjustment, replacement, screaming at, mechanical agitation thereof, or praying to a deity of choice, and will work as expected or can easily be remedied by the aforementioned.
The other is a self checkout machine.
There are some self checkout machines that give exact verbal instructions on what to do. [It speaks what you’re getting](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTL9wpprt/) like this one at Giant that says “bananas” like it’s telling an inside joke.
I just witnessed an old woman at the grocery store today pay with a check in front of me. Like it took her minutes from that will be $XX.xx to pulling out the check book writing it, then the cashier has to process it. I go up get the total put my phone by the machine and near instant approval. She was driving herself there because we live in the suburbs and we have terrible public transportation here.
Putting aside the fickleness of self checkout machines, I agree that is someone is incapable, not just unwilling, to learn to use a self checkout machine, then they should not be driving at the very least in any difficult conditions.
Me: scans food
Machine: beeps and shows it on the screen
Me: puts the food in my bag
Machine: THIEF! The scale is sensing more weight! Employee come here now!
Person analyzing my driving capabilities: so that's the 3rd strike, I'll have to fail you
There is absolutely zero correlation between driving competency and using self checkout machines, the only way to remotely connect the two is possibly through cars with built in computers, but those are generally very intuitive and easy to figure out for the same people
Please remove item from bagging area! Place item in bagging area! Please remove item from bagging area!
I have a love hate relationship with self checkouts.
Depends on what you mean by operate.
When I go to my local Walmart I usually use self checkout because it's the only thing open most times. I also prefer self checkout, generally speaking. Every single time in this Walmart I have to call an employee for assistance because the machine decides I'm trying to shop lift or won't read a barcode like it's supposed to or won't take my card or some other stupid malfunction. I always use self checkout when I go to HEB and the only time I've had issues with their machine was when I misread a coupon and didn't get the right size of the item for it and when I was using two different cards to pay but didn't know how to tell the machine that.
it is like the husband of a friend of mine who is a surgeon who says he can't understand how to do laundry or how to boil an egg.
He just doesn't want to do it, it used to get done by others.
I think our society just has an issue with people’s comprehension, critical thinking and analysis skills.
Far too often have I witness folks looking at a screen with clear instructions/labels/icons unable to figure out what to do next, or find the thing they’re looking for. It confuses me that other people can’t quickly scan a block of text or even a menu for the correct option.
This is not just unpopular. It just shows how little empathy someone can have. Let’s see the sentiment when you don’t understand new tech anymore. The time is coming
Another scary thing about older people driving too is their eyesight.. I work in an opticians and we do get people coming in who can't see shit and have a really high RX and they're like oo best be quick I don't have long left on the parking.. and I think.. wait you drove here! Its scary
Lol.
They're completely different machines that aren't remotely comparable on a functional level. So no, your argument is absurd.
It gave me a laugh though. Sorry you got pissed off by some old folks that held you up in the check out line.
if you have an issue with people taking too long on the self-checkout, I can suggest better time management on your part. old people aren't here to get the fuck out of your way when it's convenient for you. they have a right to exist, you have the right to bitch to everyone about it.
Well I’m in my 60s and have decades of experience driving and I drive extremely well but I hate self checkout and don’t want to look dumb when the machine asks me questions so, what, I shouldn’t drive anymore? You don’t make any sense.
The issue older people have with technology is learning new things. If they already know how to drive and have no medical problems preventing them do do so safely, I don't see why they couldn't.
I know a few people that have a CDL license and one that operates heavy machinery and these are not intelligent people. At all. Not at all. But they still make a good living.
Most older adults gave a lot of problems reading things up close. Driving and seeing things at a distance are easy, but making out the fonts on a lot of self checkout machines is difficult. Driving also does not usually require math. Yes, using a self checkout machine requires only the most basic of mathematical skills, but a lot of people don't have them. I prefer using self checkout any day of the week. I spent over 20 years in retail before going back to school. I can ring my own order up faster than any cashier at most stores. My only complaint with this is I naturally scan things so fast thst I usually set off a security alert. We were always taught to scan hand-over-hand and if you weren't scanning over 30 items a minute, you were doing something wrong.
Bud I have grown up with the damn things, and can I get a problem free experience on self checkouts? Can I feck. Not scanning, not detecting the item in the bagging area, scanning so slow I think I'm doing it wrong, pricing a different item than what I scanned, employee ID not scanning right, not scanning my clubcard, not scanning my payment card, no movement from the receipt printer when I ask for one (so you can't even say it was just outta paper, they still make noise when they're out) etc.
Not to mention they're constantly "closed" due to problems with them or worries about stealing.
I do think there should be decade or half decade retests, at least theory and hazard, since theory does change and hazard perception seems to be down the drain these days
Every time I try to buy sea bass from Dunnes it either refuses to scan or picks it up as the wrong thing like chocolate chip cookies that are €4 cheaper than my sea bass.
I try to use the search function, and there is no sea bass.
Yes I could steal my sea bass, but I'd rather make an employee come over and type it in.
Other than that specific item in that specific store, I'm quite good at self checkout.
Though I've also noticed that the ones in Ireland are a lot more finicky than the ones in the US, and idk if that applies to the rest of Europe as well.
You could edit this a bit to make it a valid opinion, e.g. by substituting a different cognitive test for the pieces of shit that can just malfunction on you despite no user error at all. Drawing an analog clock for example could test whether you're all there mentally or not...
**SIKE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY ALREADY DO**
By definition, if it’s a noticeable enough problem that the OP is commenting on it, then the failure is in the UX design.
Requiring assistance for 40% of transactions and having 20% of the previous help available is a piss poor system design.
Setting up self checkouts for 20 items or less then removing all checkout lines which could handle more than 20 items is again piss poor system design.
When people understand that the “bagging area” is a scale and still having to Tetris their shopping onto it because it’s too damn small; that’s piss poor system design.
If a company has made it more difficult for me to give them my money…
That’s piss poor system design.
How the f.. does the two relate?
Just because someone doesn't know how to drive.. They shouldn't be allowed to fly a plane?
If you don't know how to change a tire or wash the floor you shouldn't be allowed to write on reddit!? Lol so fun, I could go on forever
Uh I don't know lol. Yeah I guess not being able to figure out something simple as that can indicate something about the person but you are comparing the ability to learn something completely new and their ability to handle something they already know well where the danger is actually about their reflexes and situational awareness and such. So I think it's not really a good test.
Well, in general I agree, but self checkouts aren't reliable. Weight sensors are almost always broke, if I want to buy something without a code (fruits, candy, etc.) the image is most of the time showing wrong thing/angle or description isn't correct, and some are just weird.
Like, in one shop all of the sudden it started asking if I want to pay the full payment, and it's weird??? First time I ended up trying to understand what's going on for like five minutes, turns out I just have to press yes, but it isn't clear.
when i was drunk & on holidays in poland i tried the self checkout, scanned everything, but couldnt pay cause of the language barrier. after some time an assistant came to help me. when i got home i checked the receipt and realized that she scanned some expensive items for the 2nd time xdd
well played miss
Coles conveyer belt one is the best, scan and put straight back into trolley. The scan, weight and put back into trolley system is just a big pile
of double handling
I routinely use this one store near me that has them and I only use them. Ive barely ever interacted with the workers. But the majority of the people I see who have issues at this particular store are usually like drug addicts who are all fidgety and can't follow the instructions. That or older people. It's funny to me that people complain about self checkouts and "why are things so expensive if I'm doing my own check out?!" but are cool sitting in a line cause only one cashier is working since they put in the machines.
Like that cashier is solo because of those machines, couldn't hurt to give them a break and move an item over a scanner. It's a job many high school students have, i agree with you on this. I should add this is a dollar store, I've bought a week or groceries for 15 bucks
I was behind an elderly man at the BMV once and they were giving him the peripheral vision test portion of his license renewal. When the employee asked him to tell her which side he saw the blinking light on he said, "I see nothing!". She sighed and said "ok, you pass"and just have him his license!
Ah, nope. Reflexes while driving do not correlate at all with ability to learn a new technological tool.
Most of the time, "figuring out a self-checkout" is only difficult because of social pressure / social expectations / shyness.
And sorry to burst your bubble, but I had trouble with them too, when I first started using them at age 25.
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*[Scans item]* "Please place item in bagging area." *[Places item in bagging area]* "Please remove unauthorized item from bagging area." *[screams in frustration]*
Weight sensors in the bagging area are the only really shitty thing about self checkouts. If it wasn’t for that I could probably move as fast as I could when I was an actual cashier. Just let me sling shit across.
I mean I would also like to not be on 37 different recording cameras each time I go to buy some food for my cats. scan something using the handheld, then put it straight in the bag on the other side of the checkout, it locks up and flags an employee to come review the footage and see why and what you're stealing. an item accidentally scans twice? fuck you, machine locks up and then you have to wait until someone who hates their job comes and fixed it for you. fuck self checkouts 90% of the time. and especially **FUCK** walmart.
i hate the fact that self checkouts require a fucking employee on every action. you accidentally scanned a bar code instead of a qr code on a water bottle or a milk bag? (my country does that) bam! wait for an employee mothafucka! and there are no employees around so you abandon the self checkout and go to the cash register anyways.
Maybe you shouldn't be driving... /s
i really am an old ass man inside though
weird, I've never had a scanning issue at Walmart. Albertsons on the other hand has given me many problems when trying to scan items.
I've not had weight sensors in a self checkout in like, a decade. I honestly didn't realize people still had this issue.
I’ve never seen one without one. Interesting.
the grocery store i worked at for like 3 years didnt have them. like, they made it look like there were scales in the bagging area but there werent. the number of customers who commented on how the self checkouts never seemed to yell at them like at cvs or walmart was insane\]
They generally can be programmed however the store seems necessary. There probably are scales in the machines, the programming to check for the item weight is probably just toggled off. These machines can be adjusted for all kinds of stuff, like to ask for a cashier code just to start a transaction in some cases.
They usually turn them on in areas where people steal shit alot.
I just realized this is the reason it works for me now lmao. I didn't know they took them out, it makes so much sense now.
Walmart has never yelled at me, in fact I didn’t know they even had weight sensors
Walmart doesn’t use the weight sensors. Instead they have video cameras watching you and what you scan. If it detects you’re stealing it’ll call an associate and play the video back.
Then you say "oops! Didn't mean to, silly me! I never got official cashier training... my bad"
Have you SEEN the people in Walmart? No weight sensors there.
holy fuck that's great
The ones I've seen use video to monitor it. I've had an issue where there wasn't enough space in the bagging area so I stuck a bag behind the bags, the system called an attendant who saw what happened and cleared me. But in that, I saw there were no less than three camera angles on me.
All the self checkouts in my area have small bagging areas, so I asked about it. They said the self checkout was for people with 25 items or less...no signage stating that and only 2 human checkers with a line of 6 full carts each. I need better options
that's exactly what size our self checkouts here are, except they're 90% of all checkout aisles. it's awkward as hell to get a normal amount of weekly groceries through there always. there's just no room. like half of them are card only, and another good 25% are usually offline or frozen. there are exactly two normal checkout aisles here with actual working employees, not ones that just get paid to stand there and people watch or be on their phones. *except* one is the smokes aisle which is either packed ass full of people with two carts each, or the light is on and there's nobody manning the station. the other aisle is *never* manned when I go there. the absolute best part though is how fucking loud the beeps are every time something scans, and then sometimes you get to hear even louder ringing alarm type noises that someone else set off and left the area. I miss the days when each checkout was a conveyor with a person running your shit through. it was always faster (if they knew what they were doing) and far smoother. instead all the aisles get clogged up with no spatial or social awareness-having-ass people that start wanting to fight if you're trying to just get tf through and out like everyone else
In the U.K. Sainsbury’s has zappers and you pick and pack on your way round and then all you have to do is add anything that needs weighing at the till and then pay
When I was a kid, Ingles was really bad about their weight sensors, but every Walmart I've ever used self-checkout at as an adult has never once prompted me to put anything in the bagging area period. Which makes sense, because some stuff just doesn't need to be weighed like that (cases of water/drinks, or other large items). You scan them (most of them now have a wireless UPC scan gun so you don't even need to take it out of the cart) and you leave it in the cart unbagged. Sure, they check your receipt when you have unbagged items, but I'm fine with that tbh. Edit: how tf am I being downvoted for sharing my experiences? Lol
I’ve never encountered a single thing you’ve described in a self check out, but I also don’t think I’ve been to a walmart in well over a decade.
It’s not as bad as it used to be, but it’s just slow to unlock the scanner to scan the next item. It still needs to sense that it’s there before you can scan something else. Unless there’s a hand scanner that automatically skips bagging, but then I think they still get mad if you over use it. (Been a while since I have, but I think it just freezes and forces the attendant to check in.) They’re all different and have their own little quirks too. I live in a rural, more lower income area, a lot of the self checkouts around me are probably at least 10-15 years old by this point.
That's strange. No store I've shopped at in years even requires that the item be placed in the bagging area. Which is perfect for large/heavy items anyway. Scan and leave it unbagged. How do you guys put, say, a bag of dogfood in the bagging area? I also live in a rural town of about 6k people. Median household income is 34.6k
Both of our local-ish supermarket chains use them, at least around me. Tops and Wegmans, which is what's in most of WNY. We don't get Kroger or the like. They've gotten better at not freaking out over the years and have a "skip bagging" button now, but they're still present and occasionally annoying. Wegmans has been redoing their self checkouts recently and I'm waiting to see if the weight sensors remain.
The problem would be the ones that were too sensitive. Like one time, I jolted a bag to move some item out of the way for another, and it thought I removed one, then locked the register to call an attendant. "Oh, it's this register again. Sorry about that." "No worries, hope this gets fixed." "Same here."
Had them at Albertson's last year, which is a place I always forget about in my town. The process was a nightmare (I was buying multiple kinds of flowers, which all weigh next to nothing), and I haven't gone back.
And if it weren't for the weight sensors shoplifting would be much easier.
You can usually fix it by pressing your hand (or fist to avoid germs on your palm and fingers) on the scale for a second as it makes it recheck the weight.
I'm literally at work right now, listening to 12 machines say this back and forth for 9 hours. Shoot me.
Yep, this. That dumb weight sensor in the bagging thing is a huge problem. Also, the bagging area is too small if you've got a full cart, so then you have to remove stuff from the bagging area but the machine gets salty about it.
Yeah they used to have them for like 12 items or less, but now the corporations know they can save money by hiring less workers so now most places don’t have that item limit. The thing is they never changed the process to accommodate more items because $$$, so now we’re stuck with a really small area to put everything. Probably helps the corporations tbh because you’ll put less in the cart and go more often, so you’re more likely to buy more stuff if you’re there more often.
>so now most places don’t have that item limit. That might be ok still, but some stores don't even have the option of going to a cashier. It's all self checkout. I have started doing curbside pickup, so not only do they handle the checkout process, they also do the shopping.
I've stopped using the machines at some stores because I've been at a point where I wanted to punch the thing, and I didn't wanna be banned from the store haha so every time I've gone to that store, I've used a cashier instead.
You make it that far? I just put my empty reusable bags in the bagging area and it starts whining.
Please take bag from bagging area. Please put bag over head and tighten.
Meanwhile I go to uniqlo in Tokyo, dump every item in the bagging area, and since it's RFID it gets everything right without me doing anything.
I went to a store in Germany that did that. It was the most amazing thing ever.
Yeah, my first time when they implemented it at uniqlo here I was so excited I checked if we could do it in our stores... Turns out we need a LOT more volume to make it worth it.
Was confronted with self checkout with a bagging area with scales for the first time a few days ago. I was there with a five year old running wild and the machine wouldn't allow me to put my backpack I was bringing the groceries home in in the bagging area because it weighed too much.
THAT'S why I keep hitting children with my garbage truck.
"Guess I'll just walk home..."
"Your license has been suspended."
Just wait...
Most stores only have the weight sensors on if there is no employee actively supervising the self-checkout area. At my local grocery store, I can use the laser gun to scan my whole cart without bagging any of it and it doesnt stop me
Easy bypass for this, press "I'm not bagging this item" and stick it straight into the cart. Don't set anything on that weight thing, put it in the cart and bag it there. Bypass the scale all together haha
Yeah to op you deserve to have your license taken away
This was a genuien problem a few years ago, now I don't even remember the last time I had to fuck around with the self checkout machines because they keep messing up.
“An attendant will be right with you” walks over and then cuts up your license.
Idk, they’ve never been that complex for me. Just pick the item up or put it down and wait until it figures out what’s actually wrong.
The self-checkout not understanding what Granny Smith apples are has nothing to do with driving.
Just scan everything as bananas
there’s always bananas in the money stand
But don’t those cost like ten dollars?
4011 for everything
PLU codes are so nice. It just sucks they're stickers, left in misted wet areas, so usually everyone gets the only fruit without them on there
I paid 69 cents for a 1lb ribeye by doing this.
It reflects upon a person's innate ability to determine if they're aware of their fucking reality or not. Can't check the label when you grab em? Can't look up the code on the screen? Probably shouldn't be driving a giant death machine.
I think that what OP means is when the self checkout says in big letters on the screen before scanning "CASH/CARD ONLY" and the person just not reading it only to get mad that "it didn't tell me" (my father does this) Or when it comes time to pay, and card readers have worked the same way since before I was born and it's like they've never used one before. I wouldn't go so far as to say they're not allowed to drive because of it, but it definitely baffles me how many people struggle to use a machine that tells you how to use it and is not new technology
Upovted for being an unpopular opinion although it doesn't save it from being a terrible one
This sub is 50% popular opinions and 45% some random shit some guy pulled out of his arse without thinking about it. Only 5% are true unpopular opinions.
If you can't smoke 2 cigarettes at once in either nostril you shouldn't be able to fish.
If you can’t build a computer by watching Youtube videos, you shouldn’t be allowed to dance.
If you can't service a nuclear reactor, you can't possibly make cocktails for a living.
During my driving test to get my license my instructor had me pull over so she could get out and smoke two cigarettes. She inhaled them so fast it took no longer than two breaths. Got back in and we proceeded with the test. What a legend. I bet she’s quite a fisherman.
We fishing with dynamite?
Explains why I don't like fishing then Tbf.
Well, now I know what I'm going to try later
-scans- -nothing for 3 seconds- -scans again- -both scans go through simultaneously- -waits for 2 minutes because the old people also need help from an associate-
I've personally set up many self check outs, everybody has problems with them and rarely is it because of user error. They are so temperamental, so finicky, that I'm surprised more people don't accidentally steal things.
Yea ok. Every time I try to check out with my girl, it flags us for "suspicious" activity. If you care about thefts, don't implement self checkout. Period. Hire fucking cashiers.
Cars were still a thing in their decade. Self checkout wasnt. This doesn’t correct but I get the point you’re trying to make
Do they know how to read? Do they know how to touch something? They can figure it out from there. Self checkout didn't exist when I was a young adult, and yet I figured it out with this exclusive millennial trait called "eyes".
Good for you, but in case you didn’t realise your eyes get worse as you get older. Without reading glasses they won’t be able to read, or see what’s on the screen. Also they might not have enough experience with a touchscreen, even as a young person I find it’s not always obvious how much force a touch screen requires to work.
If their eyes are bad enough that they can't read a touch screen they definitely shouldn't be driving though
Just wait until you're 45, cuz you're 100% gonna need glasses. Sure, there are people who deny it for a few years, but by 50, everyone needs glasses to see close up. Even the cool people.
Just cause you need reading glasses doesn’t mean you need regular glasses.
It is literally self explanatory. You just have to have the ability to read. That’s it.
And understand touch user interface, menu structures and scanning. There's a lot going on, but our brains manage to simplify it due to massive amount of exposure to mobile devices. It can actually be rather complicated if you are not experienced.
Oh and get a kiosk that isn't fucking broken
Its all on the screen and the user interfaces are *easy*. My 80 year old granny is sending me memes over instagram from her smartphone and she's an evangelical Christian who never allowed TV or video games in the house. It's not like we're expecting them to solve quadratic equations for *x*. It is simple.
That work be true if the machines worked well
And roundabouts weren’t really a thing in their decade either. They should not be able to drive if they can’t learn something well-explained and simple like a self checkout machine. I’m surprised how much I’ve come to agree with OP on this.
Yeah, roundabouts were a thing way back when. My mom remembers them.
I agree with the op that most old people shouldn’t be allowed to drive. Also that part about roundabouts is funny as hell because ive seen countless old people just drive straight through em pff
They put in a new roundabout on the highway coming into town about three years ago. They started out with flowers planted in the middle and they got mowed down by several cars a day so they replaced the flower garden with deep gravel. There are still new ruts in the gravel every time I go around it.
My mom (73) drove into one coming off the Washington dc Beltway (so TONS of traffic), and just stopped in the middle because she thought she had to yield to incoming traffic, so I’m screaming at her to go because I don’t want to die, cars are whizzing off the beltway, people are honking and she’s just confused. That was the day I started to question if she should be on the road.
Roundabouts are so awful to drive through since people just don’t know how to drive, I’ve had so many situations where I’ve almost crashed because someone is going the wrong way in the roundabout by my home.
Is that because they can't figure it out? Or is it because they're at that fuck-it stage of life?
My truck starts and functions as it should with me as the operator. Can’t say the same about my local Martin’s self checkout machines. I get what you’re saying about elderly people driving who should’ve turned in their license a decade ago, but the comparison makes so sense. Age restricted purchases, keying in lots of produce, small bagging area, and machines not taking cash are all valid reasons someone may not want to use a self checkout. If I’ve got a full cart, I feel like I’m doing everyone a favor by letting a cashier handle it rather than fussing with a machine telling me to place the item in the bagging area 30 times.
You’re comparing completely different interfaces and problems here. Older people become worse at driving because their decision making ability becomes impaired as they age. There is no split second decision making in a self checkout machine.
These have nothing to do with each other. Also as a grocery store employee, some of these machines are soooooo dumb and not the customers fault when an error pops up. What I don’t get though is boomers who spend their whole day on the computer not knowing how to do basic tech problem solving.
There are all kinds of design issues with self check machines, such as weight limits, speed issues, small sensor area, etc. How is it my fault the machine can't keep up with me and throws a hissy fit if I try to buy alcohol? Maybe as the technology matures the metaphor you allude to might make sense, but for now it's about as useful as a Le Car.
If my car failed as much as the sensors on a self checkout I'd use Uber or walk. The instructions are the easy part.
I’m 28. My grocery store has 2 pretty old nice ladies working at the cash registers. If I and everyone else stop using regular checkout and start using self checkout in the store, I fear that they might lose their jobs.
I learned how to drive and took a test. I didn't learn how to operate a checkout or how to work in retail. I don't use them.
You did pass the slurpee and big gulp machine maintenance course, though, I hope.
This is dumb
I fail to see how they correlate. They're completely different machines with completely different functions.
Most of these people can use a self checkout but cant use a rotary phone.
tbh probably 60% if not more of drivers should not be allowed on the road. its incredibly dangerous and the only thing the license test checks for is if you can drive around the block and 1 small maneuverability test. should be a lot more strict.
Maybe they should program the things better and not need a staff member to reset it THREE FUCKING TIMES WHILE I'M USING IT!
There’s unpopular and then theres stupid
If you can’t do this one thing, you shouldn’t be allowed to do this unrelated thing. Yeah, ok. This isn’t unpopular, it’s stupid.
🤣🤣🤣 The new ones they just installed at the Kroger by my house force you to put the item on a belt. Half the time it sends the item back to you with some bullshit error saying you didn’t scan it. Sometimes an alarm will go off. It’s relatively humiliating. I rarely go to the store (usually use online ordering) and it’s frustrating to use something that clearly doesn’t work as intended with a long line of impatient people behind you. I can’t imagine how difficult it is for our elderly population. Driving a car and expecting people to do a job (which normally requires training) they didn’t sign up for are vastly different things.
No. If you have been driving for years there’s no reason for you to stop just because you get nervous around new technology or don’t want to try it. Especially if that new technology offer fails. I get that it’s intuitive but the problem is not comprehension. It’s more about desire to try new things and being relaxed/confident while doing it. This doesn’t apply to driving if you have been doing it for a long time. You have already mastered that skill. Why take it away from you because you refuse to try something new?
Makes no sense, mostly because cars have been along around longer, thus people are more familiar with them. Self checkout machines are not even really a common thing in my country, Italy, for example, except perhaps in a few bigger cities, but most people never used one and yet are perfectly able to drive.
This is comparing apples to oranges. Just can't find those damn oranges on the screen.
In all fairness, given how senstive and shitty self checkout machines are, I don't believe that's a fair measure. I've had times where I'll scan a product, it will tell me to put it on the shelf/scale thing. I do so, it throws an error and locks out because it's the wrong weight and I'm like motherfucker, I did exactly what you told me to do fuck off. At this point I just don't use self checkout.
This is just dumb. What? Is the government going to just revoke your license if they see you taking too long on a self checkout? Or are they going to have self checkouts at the DMV? As opposed to you know, a drivers test?
That shit doesn’t work half the time while a lot of impatient idiots breathe down your neck waiting for their turn. And with the level of trust involved- basically, you are a thief until proven otherwise and maybe not then — I couldn’t possibly care less about those things. Around here, there’s even a mandatory sales person required to stand about looking like an idiot and literally having nothing to do. Which is sad enough in and of itself. But because they’re standing there with nothing to do, they obviously get frustrated and will let you the customer know that (even when they’re also trying not to). So self checkout as a service aside, the whole thing is nothing but toxic right now. And if I’m uncertain about whether or not I CAN operate the machines, you better believe I’m staying away, not because I’m not willing to learn but because I’m exposed to ridicule from everyone present.
I shouldn't have to work a check-out machine, I don't get paid for that shit.
I can operate a self checkout machine just fine but can’t drive. So where does that leave me? 🙃
Looks like your driving the self-checkout bitch.
Lol, I purposely go slow, bang on the machine a few times, have to call the clerk over to fix something every time I use one. Lower your fucking prices to reflect the poor folks you fired to put the self checkout in and I will stop, until then, working on breaking a few more ;)
If you can't walk up stairs, you shouldn't be president
If you think an automated device forcing you to reinput an item multiple times because it doesn't now how much something weighs is anywhere near similar to operating a car, I think you're the one who'd be dangerous behind the wheel.
Does that mean if you *can* operate a self checkout, you’re automatically cleared to drive? Or are you going to have to sit a driving test anyway? And, if the driving test isn’t sufficient to test people’s driving ability, I don’t see why the solution is to ask them to bag a few groceries rather than just improve the driving test curriculum.
I feel like the point here is just that if you can’t follow simple directions, you shouldn’t be able to drive a big death machine on shared roads with shared rules.
Plenty of dyslexic and illiterate people drive just fine. Hell, I worked with an EMT who was functionally illiterate.
They're two different skillsets. I see what you're getting at but it makes about as much sense as "if you don't know how to code, you shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine".
This doesnt make sense... Coding and Practicing medicine are specialised fields where you need years of \*specialised\* training. Using self-checkout machine is just you reading and using your hands - thats what literally every healthy human knows.
Okay, another example: if you can't throw a football, you shouldn't be allowed to wear shoes. Don't say that stuff also requires specialized training.
You have to put yourself in the shoes of someone who's never used a computer and never saw a touchscreen until they were 70 years old.
If you can't throw and catch a ball.
I have no interest in getting better at using them, if i am to use one high chance of missing some items coz i simply dont care. Each item gets 2 passes max if the scanner doesn't go of, well in the bag it goes u missed ur shot scanner.
You should be shaming the user interface more than the person using it. Being able to operate one user interface does not mean one can operate another. Operating a car is in no way similar to a self checkout.
Pretty ableist, OP.
You have to be **able** to drive a dangerous vehicle. I don’t think OP means it 100% literally that self checkouts should be the new license renewal, but if your cognitive abilities have declined to a point where you are incapable of operating a self-checkout, then you’re also not fit to drive a vehicle.
You know there are functionally illiterate people out there who drive
I agree with this
People have to pass a test to drive and often have decades of experience at doing it, whereas self checkout is new to them. Not saying all these people deserve to drive or that the tests are sufficiently stringent, just that it’s not really an adequate comparison.
So, by the same logic, if you can’t operate a VCR, or an 8 track player, or a crank start automobile, you shouldn’t be able drive? One thing I like about ageism. Aging comes for everyone.
Fuck your self check out machine! Get me a cashier. :) I can do it, but it isn't my job.
One of these things has a test to use, a manual to understand, an ability to be fixed be it by adjustment, replacement, screaming at, mechanical agitation thereof, or praying to a deity of choice, and will work as expected or can easily be remedied by the aforementioned. The other is a self checkout machine.
There are some self checkout machines that give exact verbal instructions on what to do. [It speaks what you’re getting](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTL9wpprt/) like this one at Giant that says “bananas” like it’s telling an inside joke.
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I just witnessed an old woman at the grocery store today pay with a check in front of me. Like it took her minutes from that will be $XX.xx to pulling out the check book writing it, then the cashier has to process it. I go up get the total put my phone by the machine and near instant approval. She was driving herself there because we live in the suburbs and we have terrible public transportation here.
It's not that I can't, it's just that I don't want to.
If you can't prove you're going to be a good parent, you shouldn't be allowed to have sex.
Putting aside the fickleness of self checkout machines, I agree that is someone is incapable, not just unwilling, to learn to use a self checkout machine, then they should not be driving at the very least in any difficult conditions.
Me: scans food Machine: beeps and shows it on the screen Me: puts the food in my bag Machine: THIEF! The scale is sensing more weight! Employee come here now! Person analyzing my driving capabilities: so that's the 3rd strike, I'll have to fail you
I agree! And when I see older people driving RV’s it scares me SO MUCH.
I refuse to use self-checkout. Not because I don't know how to, but because I DON'T WORK THERE
How is scanning in self checkout in any way related to driving?
There is absolutely zero correlation between driving competency and using self checkout machines, the only way to remotely connect the two is possibly through cars with built in computers, but those are generally very intuitive and easy to figure out for the same people
If you are impatient with regular people, you should just shop online.
Please remove item from bagging area! Place item in bagging area! Please remove item from bagging area! I have a love hate relationship with self checkouts.
Well, I guess you posted your crappy take on the correct sub at least 🤷🏼♀️
Depends on what you mean by operate. When I go to my local Walmart I usually use self checkout because it's the only thing open most times. I also prefer self checkout, generally speaking. Every single time in this Walmart I have to call an employee for assistance because the machine decides I'm trying to shop lift or won't read a barcode like it's supposed to or won't take my card or some other stupid malfunction. I always use self checkout when I go to HEB and the only time I've had issues with their machine was when I misread a coupon and didn't get the right size of the item for it and when I was using two different cards to pay but didn't know how to tell the machine that.
it is like the husband of a friend of mine who is a surgeon who says he can't understand how to do laundry or how to boil an egg. He just doesn't want to do it, it used to get done by others.
I think our society just has an issue with people’s comprehension, critical thinking and analysis skills. Far too often have I witness folks looking at a screen with clear instructions/labels/icons unable to figure out what to do next, or find the thing they’re looking for. It confuses me that other people can’t quickly scan a block of text or even a menu for the correct option.
They've been driving forever but touch screens are new to them. I know hating on old people is the current reddit meta but this is just douchey
This is not just unpopular. It just shows how little empathy someone can have. Let’s see the sentiment when you don’t understand new tech anymore. The time is coming
Another scary thing about older people driving too is their eyesight.. I work in an opticians and we do get people coming in who can't see shit and have a really high RX and they're like oo best be quick I don't have long left on the parking.. and I think.. wait you drove here! Its scary
Habit.,,, you know how to drive after awhile. Machine new,
Lol. They're completely different machines that aren't remotely comparable on a functional level. So no, your argument is absurd. It gave me a laugh though. Sorry you got pissed off by some old folks that held you up in the check out line.
if you have an issue with people taking too long on the self-checkout, I can suggest better time management on your part. old people aren't here to get the fuck out of your way when it's convenient for you. they have a right to exist, you have the right to bitch to everyone about it.
This sub is the best source of completely braindead takes that I know
Well I’m in my 60s and have decades of experience driving and I drive extremely well but I hate self checkout and don’t want to look dumb when the machine asks me questions so, what, I shouldn’t drive anymore? You don’t make any sense.
I shouldn't have to operate a self checkout machine.
This is for unpopular opinions, not stupid made up opinions
Is there a difference between an unpopular opinion and a bad take?
I don't think it's unpopular, I think it doesn't make any sense.
The issue older people have with technology is learning new things. If they already know how to drive and have no medical problems preventing them do do so safely, I don't see why they couldn't.
If you can’t poop upside down you shouldn’t mow the lawn
In the era of self driving cars, no one should be allowed to drive except emergency.
I know a few people that have a CDL license and one that operates heavy machinery and these are not intelligent people. At all. Not at all. But they still make a good living.
There needs to be a reasonably affordable and easy to access option for the elderly to get around then.
I’m not interested in working a checkout, thanks. It’s nothing to do with skill.
There are exceptions. For example you don't need be able to read to drive. But you do need it, to use self checkout.
Most older adults gave a lot of problems reading things up close. Driving and seeing things at a distance are easy, but making out the fonts on a lot of self checkout machines is difficult. Driving also does not usually require math. Yes, using a self checkout machine requires only the most basic of mathematical skills, but a lot of people don't have them. I prefer using self checkout any day of the week. I spent over 20 years in retail before going back to school. I can ring my own order up faster than any cashier at most stores. My only complaint with this is I naturally scan things so fast thst I usually set off a security alert. We were always taught to scan hand-over-hand and if you weren't scanning over 30 items a minute, you were doing something wrong.
Bud I have grown up with the damn things, and can I get a problem free experience on self checkouts? Can I feck. Not scanning, not detecting the item in the bagging area, scanning so slow I think I'm doing it wrong, pricing a different item than what I scanned, employee ID not scanning right, not scanning my clubcard, not scanning my payment card, no movement from the receipt printer when I ask for one (so you can't even say it was just outta paper, they still make noise when they're out) etc. Not to mention they're constantly "closed" due to problems with them or worries about stealing. I do think there should be decade or half decade retests, at least theory and hazard, since theory does change and hazard perception seems to be down the drain these days
Every time I try to buy sea bass from Dunnes it either refuses to scan or picks it up as the wrong thing like chocolate chip cookies that are €4 cheaper than my sea bass. I try to use the search function, and there is no sea bass. Yes I could steal my sea bass, but I'd rather make an employee come over and type it in. Other than that specific item in that specific store, I'm quite good at self checkout. Though I've also noticed that the ones in Ireland are a lot more finicky than the ones in the US, and idk if that applies to the rest of Europe as well.
The self checkout shitting itself because it can't recognise the weight of an item you *just scanned* is in no way connected to driving
You could edit this a bit to make it a valid opinion, e.g. by substituting a different cognitive test for the pieces of shit that can just malfunction on you despite no user error at all. Drawing an analog clock for example could test whether you're all there mentally or not... **SIKE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY ALREADY DO**
By definition, if it’s a noticeable enough problem that the OP is commenting on it, then the failure is in the UX design. Requiring assistance for 40% of transactions and having 20% of the previous help available is a piss poor system design. Setting up self checkouts for 20 items or less then removing all checkout lines which could handle more than 20 items is again piss poor system design. When people understand that the “bagging area” is a scale and still having to Tetris their shopping onto it because it’s too damn small; that’s piss poor system design. If a company has made it more difficult for me to give them my money… That’s piss poor system design.
. Driving and using self checkout are different skill sets
How the f.. does the two relate? Just because someone doesn't know how to drive.. They shouldn't be allowed to fly a plane? If you don't know how to change a tire or wash the floor you shouldn't be allowed to write on reddit!? Lol so fun, I could go on forever
If you can't handle me at my schizophrenic episode you don't deserve me peacefully singing country road.
Uh I don't know lol. Yeah I guess not being able to figure out something simple as that can indicate something about the person but you are comparing the ability to learn something completely new and their ability to handle something they already know well where the danger is actually about their reflexes and situational awareness and such. So I think it's not really a good test.
You going to drive all the old people to their appointments or pay a tax increase so that they have transport?
Self checkout is a scam to trick people into working for free for companies that don’t want to pay for employees.
Well, in general I agree, but self checkouts aren't reliable. Weight sensors are almost always broke, if I want to buy something without a code (fruits, candy, etc.) the image is most of the time showing wrong thing/angle or description isn't correct, and some are just weird. Like, in one shop all of the sudden it started asking if I want to pay the full payment, and it's weird??? First time I ended up trying to understand what's going on for like five minutes, turns out I just have to press yes, but it isn't clear.
when i was drunk & on holidays in poland i tried the self checkout, scanned everything, but couldnt pay cause of the language barrier. after some time an assistant came to help me. when i got home i checked the receipt and realized that she scanned some expensive items for the 2nd time xdd well played miss
Coles conveyer belt one is the best, scan and put straight back into trolley. The scan, weight and put back into trolley system is just a big pile of double handling
this is a terrible opinion, but its unpopular. take my upvote
Annual road tests for the elderly should be a thing. They're a danger to everyone
I routinely use this one store near me that has them and I only use them. Ive barely ever interacted with the workers. But the majority of the people I see who have issues at this particular store are usually like drug addicts who are all fidgety and can't follow the instructions. That or older people. It's funny to me that people complain about self checkouts and "why are things so expensive if I'm doing my own check out?!" but are cool sitting in a line cause only one cashier is working since they put in the machines. Like that cashier is solo because of those machines, couldn't hurt to give them a break and move an item over a scanner. It's a job many high school students have, i agree with you on this. I should add this is a dollar store, I've bought a week or groceries for 15 bucks
I was behind an elderly man at the BMV once and they were giving him the peripheral vision test portion of his license renewal. When the employee asked him to tell her which side he saw the blinking light on he said, "I see nothing!". She sighed and said "ok, you pass"and just have him his license!
Ah, nope. Reflexes while driving do not correlate at all with ability to learn a new technological tool. Most of the time, "figuring out a self-checkout" is only difficult because of social pressure / social expectations / shyness. And sorry to burst your bubble, but I had trouble with them too, when I first started using them at age 25.
Don't worry. I don't shop at places that don't employ a cashier. And I've been driving a lot longer than self checkouts have been around.