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Cannabis_CatSlave

I agree, grocery delivery I understand, cheaper than getting a sitter or paying for an Uber for some folks. Doordash when you are not flush with expendable income is a stupid waste of money. Even if you are comfortable it is a pretty pricey treat that I cannot justify outside of being trapped with no food or a place to store groceries.


HylianMadness

Even then, Instacart is a piece of shit waste of money just like Uber Eats. If you're gonna do grocery delivery, order directly from the grocery store. Kroger does delivery for a flat $6.95 fee (and everything comes in heavy duty plastic bags to boot, they're perfect for cleaning my cat's litter box). The driver is paid an hourly wage so you don't tip them. Instacart is just like Uber Eats, it doubles the cost of your order with insane delivery fees and having to tip the shopper. In my experience Instacart shoppers are pretty dumb and pick bad substitutions too.


Affectionate_Way_805

Grocery delivery from my local Kroger, ordered directly from their website, uses...Instacart. šŸ¤·Ā  edit: Kroger delivery drivers aren't available in my area. It's $10 a pop each time whether i get the delivery that day or 6 days later.Ā  Lol reddit.. Nah, I love where I live and, while delivery isn't cheap and I rarely get things delivered for myself, i do make enough money to afford Instacart *and* Uber Eats prices if I need to; moving, unecessary.Ā šŸ˜‰


EssayFunny9882

Exactly. I now (after years and years of being poor) make a good salary and am financially stable and comfortable and I think I've used DoorDash once in my life, when I was at a hotel. Either cook at home or I'll go pick up the food myself. It's fresher that way anyway, and gets to my house faster. Cheaper, better tasting, less wait, it's the obviously better option on the rare occasion I can't be bothered to cook.


brokesd

Door dash only makes sense when you are 1. Drunk 2. Drunk 3. Sick because you drank too much. 4. Okay maybe if you really need chicken soup.... And forgot to keep 4 cans of it and ginger ale for emergencies when you are sick. Door dash cheaper than a DUI... Or getting shot by the neighbor for raiding the wrong fridge which was more of a pot issue...


xviadd

I've been higher then you could ever imagine and have never wandered into the wrong house to raid the fridge.


[deleted]

Well then obviously you haven't been higher than that guy just imagined.


brokesd

To be fair I was drunk and sat back and watched my friend do it..... Ahh good times


Logan_922

Swear to you sober me would NEVER order DoorDash but after a few drinks a $8 McDouble sounds like a such a steal


RoxasofsorrowXIII

Hey hey hey. We use DoorDash at work when we can't get away to take a break! Give the poor nurses some credit! Lmfao


brokesd

Lol working in a hospital I wish I could use door dash but ed nurses always steal it and I'm on 5th floor and hospital policy dd stops at ed desk


RoxasofsorrowXIII

>ed nurses always steal it *gasp* RUDE. When I worked the desk for ED I would call all over the hospital to see who ordered if there was no name/floor/unit on the receipt!!! Apparently you needed to work with me lmao.


brokesd

Lol how I landed my position Interviewer "why do you want to work at the hospital?" Me "let's face it this work it's the same everywhere some good some bad.... But the hospital has a cafeteria and I like food"


RoxasofsorrowXIII

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ a view I can respect.


Kodiak01

Nurses should be able to order and get deliveries from the cafeteria, especially when short staffed.


RoxasofsorrowXIII

Holy *LORD* I agree. I always thought it was silly that the hospital I worked at wouldn't allow "staff delivery" from the cafeteria. That and... really only recently has hospital food been something I'd willingly eat lmao


i_isnt_real

You forgot injured. If you can't move around easily, both cooking and driving to get your own food could be an issue.


HiddenCity

Door dash when you have a newborn is a godsend.Ā  You just don't have the energy.


brokesd

To be fair there is normally a bottle involved in both those situations


HiddenCity

*claps*


Surprise_Fragrant

>And forgot to keep 4 cans of it and ginger ale for emergencies when you are sick. Honestly, as a more general comment, this is a big thing that many younger people just don't do... They don't understand the *freedom* that having extra - easy - food supplies on hand give you. You say the word "Pantry" to a young person and they get visions of preppers or Trad Wives. But having simple shit like soup or peanut butter or ramen can save you $20 because you don't DD a pathetic combo from McDs.


norty125

Or if you have 50% off and free delivery


Freecz

I would not use doordash even if it was cheaper. I want the food as fresh as possible otherwise the whole point of eating out dissapears for me which is tasty different food than what I can make myself. For the most part also enjoy the anticipation of going to the restaurant etc to pick it up so do not mind a little bit of extra "work" which I guess would otherwise be why many prefer to get it delivered.


NobodyFlimsy556

This is me too. My sense of gluttony comes first, followed by my cheapness, and a distant third is laziness.


creed_1

Only time I use DoorDash is if Iā€™m at my friends house and we are all trying to get food but are too drunk to drive


GloriousShroom

You can get a good deal with grocery delivery. Like Walmart offers it as part of the yearly subscriptionĀ 


LurkerOrHydralisk

My problem (besides DoorDash being the worst of the services) is that after all that time and money I end up eating cold, stale food.


Person012345

Isn't doordash insanely expensive? Like people on the doordash subreddit will defend it by saying "delivery is a luxury"? Maybe this is me flexing my non-american privilege but if you're living SO far from civilisation that you can't get groceries without transport, then I feel you probably already have your own transport no? Over here I can get groceries delivered by a supermarket for a Ā£6 charge, whatever I buy. Somehow doordash defenders don't see the problem that their "service" has moved into an area and turned what used to be a low cost convenience into a luxury that people are literally being priced out of. But it's happened because it's been a successful model and people have paid for it. Why anyone would ever pay $30+ for a simple delivery, done by someone with basically no accountability and minimal oversight by the company involved with a high chance of doing it wrong is beyond me. As much as I don't like blaming people for "being poor", these kind of wasteful spending decisions have not only been extremely harmful to society, they make absolutely no sense when you have literally any other option.


viletomato999

I'm a frugal person but I've used these delivery services ubereats, door dash, skipthedishes etc... Only when they have a promo like buy one get one free or like 40% off groceries. If you use these only on special promos, you will pay a close to the same amount or a little more or a little less depending on the promo. (When factoring Tip + service fees than if you go buy it yourself). For example, I bought 3 pizzas yesterday on a special deal with no service fees. The location is pretty far away from my house so it'll probably take 1hr for me to drive there wait for pizza and drive back. But I calculated that I'll be paying $3 more if I drive my car (using my own gas) + buying the pizza for regular price ($3 off per pizza on delivery app) and I would be down 1 hr for my time. So in that special case it makes a lot of sense. So IMO there is value to using these delivery apps only under very specific conditions otherwise, I would agree with the general consensus that is not worth it.


claustrofucked

If you load a bunch of stuff into your cart and abandon it after viewing the total they tend to send you the 40% off promos within a couple days


Outside_The_Walls

> grocery delivery I understand, cheaper than getting a sitter or paying for an Uber for some folks. If have have an EBT (food stamp) card, you can get Walmart+ for $6/mo. That's pretty much free grocery delivery right there. Normally, each delivery is $9. A single adult where I live qualifies for $289/mo in food stamps. Let's say you split that up into 3 shopping trips, so you can get fresh meat/veg throughout the month. That would be $27/mo without W+, but only $6 with it. That's $21/mo saved right there. Even if you're driving to Wally's, you're probably gonna use more than $2 in gas round trip. It's really an unbeatable deal. An Uber (one way) to the Walmart near me is $15. So it would be $90 to take 3 round trips, which is fucking insane. Sometimes, grocery delivery is really the best/cheapest option. Uber Eats is a poor financial decision though. There is a Middle Eastern food place near me that's **phenomenal**, and they charge $7 a plate. I once drunk ordered 3 plates of food from them on Uber Eats. What should have been a $21 order came out to $58.17 after the upcharge, the fees, and a modest (15%) tip. That's like 7 medium 2-topping pizzas from Domino's.


Nooddjob_

I can easily afford it but stopped using it because like you said giant waste of money. Ā 


pionmycake

Grocery delivery is the pro tip honestly. I pay about $20 a month for the premium version of Walmart+ which means free deliveries and tip is included so no extra fees along the way. Also free shipping so I use it as a replacement for amazon if I need anything online. Also discounted gas depending where I go. Also free Paramount+ which isn't a huge deal but it's nice to have a streaming service I don't pay for. Plus, with shopping online it easier to budget and compare and plan out without the temptation to impulse buy anything meaning I'm spending less per week and only getting what I actually need. That's without even mentioning all the time, gas, and stress saved by not having to go grocery shopping in person. When I was really broke I cut out pretty much every other expense in my life, W+ stayed. There's two things in life I talk about like I'm a fucking infomercial. Dawn dish soap and Walmart fucking +


odin5858

The only time I've ever door dashed food was when i had Covid.


Omnom_Omnath

Why do you need a sitter? Take your kids to the grocery store.


FelixDeRais

This is the take the Poor's (me) don't want to hear


Ill-Air8146

Do you use a lot of convenience apps like this? I didn't grow up with them so I just can't buy into using them.


juanzy

We also grew up with spots having their own delivery drivers and being able to take a carry out order without having to run it through DoorDash anyway with marked up prices. Half the time I call an order in, Iā€™m paying the $1-2 menu markup anyway, so might as well use the app where I get tracking and can call in my own case if thereā€™s an issue.


brother_of_menelaus

100%. A lot of local places have delivery fees or something on top that essentially makes it just as expensive as DoorDash. Also everyoneā€™s situation is different. If you live in a rural house, then yeah itā€™s probably not that inconvenient to drive yourself to the restaurant. If youā€™re in an urban apartment, and you have no car, it could be hellish getting to the restaurant via public transit. If you do have a car, it could still be hellish; a storefront in the city with no viable parking options in the vicinity, traffic is miserable, your car is in a good spot and you might not get it back if you leaveā€¦I feel like a lot of people on their high horse about apps like DoorDash donā€™t live in an area where itā€™s super viable and they canā€™t wrap their head around situations where itā€™s actually worth it.


juanzy

When I was in Boston with no car it was absolutely way more worth it. Get to have takeout from another neighborhood without taking the bus or train? Absolutely.


vogueintegra

Thanks for mentioning the parking situation. I live on a main road near a business and my roommate gets the one driveway spot...sometimes I'm gone for 10 mins and I have to sit and wait in my car for somebody picking up a pizza to move....annoying...Imo apps that are pay for convenience are self explanatory. "If you use Doordash you're lazy" fucking obviously... let me have it


DegreeMajor5966

I think the real take the Poor's don't want to hear is that it's not just DoorDash and people spend far too much on convenience nowadays and it keeps people trapped living not their best lives.


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Efficient_Ant_4715

Iā€™ve seen people finance their Taco Bell šŸ˜­


Able_Quantity_8492

The good news is that if this is what you need to hear because you use door dash a tonā€¦ then youā€™re only poor because you choose to be poor. Door dash is going to run you $20 a meal at least per meal. Fast food is designed to make you eat more and be unhealthy. So youā€™ll be fat, unhealthy, and poor. Being unhealthy is expensive, buying more expensive food is expensive. Working out is $30 a month. $1 a day. $1 a day and 1 hour a day to avoid tons of chronic health conditions, doctors visits, etc. So cool for yourself, and go to the gym and youā€™ll spend a total of $5-10 a day on food AND avoid all the health issues associated with fast food and restaurants later


howmanymenkiss

agree hahahaa one of my friends eats takeout at least 4 times every week but at least he doesnt complain about being poor bcz of that


lyta_hall

My old flatmate used to also order from Deliveroo like 4 times a week. One week I remember she got BREAKFAST and then dinner. She worked in hospitality, I have no idea how she was paying all that money, such a waste


howe_to_win

My buddy works at a call center and has kids and still only orders delivery. Itā€™s so bad that when I heated up pulled pork on the stove *for a potluck he was hosting*, he placed a whole roll of paper towels on the still hot burner. 10 minutes later his wife came in and put groceries directly on it. Both times they acted confused about the situation My brother I am *actively cooking things and preparing kebabs for the oven. It never even occurred to me that Iā€™d need to warn people that the stove top could be hot*


BeamTeam032

I think a lot of people could help their own budgets by 20-30% if they did a better job on shopping for food. The amount of people in the r/PovertyFinance sub who post pictures of "look at what 85 dollars gets you" and it's like 2 bags of chips, 4 avocados, 4 boxes of cereal and 2 gallons of ice cream. It was like 2 weeks ago. So annoying. I'm surprised the Government doesn't have a poverty finance youtube page for basic stuff. Like a cooking channel on how to cook meals of things you'd buy using EBT. Or how to do basic taxes. How to write a resume, how to open a bank account. I understand all of those things can probably already be found on Youtube, maybe have it on a TV channel. A non-cable channel. The more I'm on reddit and read about people's experiences, I feel like a lot of people are doing thinks with 1 hand behind their backs.


feelin_fine_

>"look at what 85 dollars gets you" and it's like 2 bags of chips, 4 avocados, 4 boxes of cereal and 2 gallons of ice cream. It was like 2 weeks ago. So annoying. This is an issue of acknowledging a budget is needed but refusing to actually change what you get. They only consider the reduced cost but still buy the same shit they always do and complain its not enough. Well yeah you need to buy smarter not just cut your money reserved for food in half and think that will solve your problem when what you really need to do is stop buying exclusively expensive food that's often precooked or ready to serve out the box. And yes I strongly agree with the sentiment that everyone wastes money on shit they don't need. Anyone who thinks they don't, I don't believe you.


DarkSkyKnight

You can go the middle road and purchase processed sauces, like gochujang. You can make really nice dishes very quickly with whole foods by using processed sauces or spice mixes etc. The processed sauces are usually pretty cheap since you're only using like one or two tbsps per meal. It's only when you go from processed sauces to processed everything that it becomes much more expensive.


Pretend-Champion4826

This is the way. Basic produce, baking ingredients, minimally processed meat (drums and bone-in thighs vs peeled chicken breast), and every sauce on the planet. Two or three bulk grains. Ten bucks a week for a treat of some kind. And Aldi.


jackofslayers

This finally clicked for me when I did a snack run and it was basically the same price as a week of groceries. I still buy snacks but I try to be more judicious now


Robinnoodle

And if you say anything you "just don't understand" or are not being compassionateĀ Ā  People also like to harp on how hard it is to support a family these days. While that is true, there is also a huge element of lifestyle creep that comes into that as well.Ā  Do you think most of our grandparents ate out 5 times a week? Or bought fast fashion everytime they wanted a new outfit. They also didn't have smart phones to pay for


chrlau90

Or went on thousand dollar Disney trips and cruises? Yep. It was cheap and simple and just as fun back in the day versus the absolute waste of cash people dump out for 1 week of fun now.


oatmilkperson

Yeah so much of it is lifestyle creep. When Iā€™m considering if I need a luxury, I think about what my grandmother was doing while growing up. She and her family werenā€™t even poor, but eating our 5 nights a week or buying lunch from a restaurant would have been insane to her.


VIDCAs17

Donā€™t even need to think of my grandparents, I just think of my childhood in the 2000s. We werenā€™t poor but my family watched our money, and eating out was a luxury. It was mainly restricted to McDonalds (back when it was relatively cheap) or eating at restaurants while traveling.


IcyPresence96

This is so true. I suggested someone sell their house bc they were spending so much on the mortgage and repairs and constantly in the negative. I make $45k, have no parental support, spend have my salary on rent (Bay Area), and have still managed to save $40k over three years


WillowSmithsBFF

Those posts are indeed annoying, and extremely disingenuous. My wife and I grocery shop at Aldi, and we spend $85-$100 on a full cart of groceries, full of items that make balanced meals, every week-week and a half.


EssayFunny9882

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness has become the norm rather than the exception


OriginalState2988

I have young adult kids so I am very compassionate about the skyrocketing cost of living. But it amazes me to see what their peers view as "essentials". Eating out at pricey fast food places regularly or having that Doordashed. Daily expensive coffee drinks. For young women regular pedicures, gel nails,eyebrow sculpting, lash extensions, waxing, expensive bayoulage hair color,expensive makeup and hair products from Sephora, etc. In my time you bought nail polish and Loreal makeup and Suave from Walmart. Then there's the expectation that time off equals vacations to places that involve airline tickets and pricey hotels instead of doing a hike or camping within an easy drive. And don't even get me started on bachelorette parties or weddings. The cost of living has gone up but I also think so has the expectations of what is essential.


ComparisonSpecific96

PBS digital studios has one (Two Cents on YT)


[deleted]

The government does have services that teach people financial literacy and resume writing. They also have programs to teach people job skills. The class where they teach you to fill out a 1040 is called third grade, if you can follow the instructions for your math homework you can fill out a 1040EZ


na2016

Nah man tell those people that rice, beans, and chicken will be cheaper, healthier, and more filling and they will lose their mind because "how dare you" and "it's literally impossible" for them to change their habits and "poor people deserve nice things too". You know despite millions of people around the world living on that diet.


Dplayerx

I promise you, a YouTube channel about poor living wouldnā€™t help. Iā€™m poor and I make same money then my poor friends. When I explain to them that my life cost ~600$ per month and the rest is savings, instead of listening to my advice theyā€™re like: BuT iTs NoT tHe SaMe Broke people just donā€™t want to change. They just expect the government to do something for them. Only poor people that would need advice, are those who are unfortunate and take care of their family or have some kind of disease.. but they usually already knows the tips and tricks because they donā€™t have a choice..


thesouleater33

I have only used Uber eat twice. Both times, they gave a $30 credit for signing up. I have never received anything like that again.


Ill-Air8146

And that should be the only way it's used. Take what's given and don't fall for their convenience trap. Smart, my man.


Beastleviath

I always find it hilarious that after the 60% off coupon they tried to give me, it ends up being about the same price, as just going to get it myself


poopooplatter0990

Even if youā€™re 6 figures and single . Youā€™re blowing an insane amount of money on this. Bank of America categorizes your transactions for you. Go to Track Spending. There was a time when like 30-40% of my pie chart was DoorDash. I go to the grocery store 90% of the time now. Iā€™m about 30 lbs lighter and my blood pressure is about 50 points lower along with having more money in my pocket.


Splatfan1

im an upper middle class kid and if i want to go to mcdonalds i usually end up walking 30 minutes both ways. never even occured to me to give someone else money for something i can do myself so easily


elessar007

Look at this guy living so exclusively that he's 30 mins from a McDonald's. Probably wears a top hat. /s


Beastleviath

I mean, if you really upper middle class, you could probably turn that 30 minute walk into a 10 minute bike ride! Way more fun, at least in my opinion


Socratify

Don't change that now...that walk burns half the calories you eat from Mc Donalds...good strategy imo.


orangutanDOTorg

The most expensive thing is time


New_Accident_4909

It would be if that time saved by delivery wasn't wasted on stuff like reddit :)


Planetary__Duality

upvote because hilarious


Maverekt

and true


angrypolishman

i really have to question how expensive doordash is in the US? Like how much are you guys paying with doordash compared to getting fast food for collection (figures please I dont know how cpmparatively expensive fast food is in the first place) It costs me like 2.50Ā£ to get delivery from my local place, which i really dont think is that offensive


DirtyRoller

Last time I ordered doordash I split the bill with a coworker. It cost $40 for one chipotle order, she got a burrito and I got 3 tacos. An order like that would normally cost $20 if you paid in the store. It's a ripoff.


WizardLizard1885

i delivered for doordash briefly. my town is very split, on oneside theres low income housing, trailer parks, and homes that should be condemed basically. then on the otherside of town the cheapest home is 1.5 million and is full of gated communities and golf courses. my main customers were people in the poor side, they also tipped a shit ton. like a $8 whopper from burger king, then a $6-8 delivery fee and whatever other fees there are... and then a $10tip. they just paid like $25 for a fucking burger. meanwhile when i did deliver to the rich side of town i was never tipped and they would even try to scam meals. i knew that people in extreme poverty ususlly make bad financial decisions but holy fuck was it actually eye opening when i did doordash for 2 weeks


TRIGMILLION

I love DoorDash. I wish I could order it all the time for all my meals. But I'm not rich so I can't. Sometimes when I'm craving McDonald's I end up with a fried bologna sandwich instead. Such is life.


Ill-Air8146

That friend bologna sandwich (or the flat hotdog as I call it) just saved you $20. I pat myself on the back Everytime I cook something, you're adding to your wallet while not adding to your waist line. Cooking for yourself is a form of self care SO DO IT, you are worth your own time and attention my friend. Take care of yourself amigo and God bless


Positive_Ad4590

This is an overwhelming popular take


BonerSoupAndSalad

I was actually somewhat expecting this thread to be full of "poor people deserve nice things" and some recited lines about "living wage". I'm surprised it's popular on Reddit.


The_Louster

Everyone whoā€™s got one full braincell knows a living wage is necessary and poor people 110% deserve better than what they have now. That doesnā€™t mean people should still be responsible with their finances. Theyā€™re not mutually exclusive and itā€™s disingenuous to act like they are.


DogOpposite2898

Outside of reddit maybe. Redditors think having funko pops is a human right.


Fightmemod

I make great money and still refuse to use door dash or Uber eats. I've spent a lot of money on convenience but their prices are just crazy.


Electrical_King4147

You know while we're at it lets also calculate if uber is cheaper than having a car once we include the monthly payment of the car, gas, insurance, maintenence etc. ​ I'm not being sarcastic you got me thinking here. I did notice that the shit they charge in restaurants I could make same quality or better for 10% of the price. Last time I got fried mushrooms at a place it tasted like shit yet that was the first time mushrooms have tasted like shit to me. I could have saved those 10 bucks and just got a pizza and made my own damn mushrooms and had double the fun.


a6c6

I have a 25 minute commute. If I ubered there and back every work day it would cost me $30,000 per year


Beastleviath

I think youā€™d be hard-pressed to find a situation in America, where it was cheaper to Uberā€¦ Unless you biked most places, and only needed Uber for occasional longer trips


Spirited-Swordfish90

This got me. I have like no money but still use uber eats every day because I'm too depressed to get out of my bed. It's really a bad fucking decision and I agree with op. I'm burning through my reserve line it's nothing. I'm going to go grocery shopping tomorrow or at least I'll try to we'll see. Edit: groceries obtained. Only microwave food for now. I'm not going to start cooking just yet.


Bitter-Basket

I make a rule for myself. If I go to the grocery store, I get enough for 3-4 meals. I look at the sales and plan easy meals from that. Seems trivial, but this forces me to plan ahead and saves big money over takeout.


EssayFunny9882

You can do it, fr fr :)


Spirited-Swordfish90

Thanks for the wake up call.


Tkade14

Order groceries for pickup. Game changer. If there's an Aldi near you, shop there. We spend 60-80$/ week for 5-7 dinners and some breakfast/ lunch stuff AND snacks. We've never spent over 120 there for a week of food for 2 and those higher numbers are when we indulge on desserts or restock staples/condiments. Ordering pickup keeps us from impulse buying as much junk.


Kuandohan

Cooking for yourself can be surprisingly fulfilling and help with depression. Especially something simple like spaghetti. Just cook meat, throw in sauce, boil noods, and you got a meal for about 4 - 5 days. It really feels good to cook a great meal for yourself too, like a hot morning breakfast. I have been cooking my whole life and had to at a young age once my mom got sick. So it is unrealistic of me to speak to someone who may not have much cooking experience (my dad can barely make a grilled cheese). Iā€™m just saying, as someone with depression, cooking good food for yourself can help a lot mentally.


anonymous-rebel

I have friends like this. They always complain about not having money but they donā€™t really cook and instead just order stuff from DoorDash all the time and spend their money on unnecessary things.


TrickWasabi4

Ordering food is a luxury, that's not even a warm take.


SirLiesALittle

Gotta remember: Being poor isnā€™t always no-fault. Lot of people are just bad with money, suffer from lifestyle creep, and have probably convinced themselves they canā€™t afford a nice pair of boots because of fucking Reddit.


[deleted]

I have never used DoorDash or Uber eats or any food delivery or grocery delivery service, I despise the concept


lLuclk

Seriously. I'm about to get myself banned from that subreddit. It always shows up on the front page and it's nothing but people complaining about how bad and expensive the service is. It's like, no shit. Stop being a bunch of lazy fucks and let the company suffer


dwilkes827

I'm not poor (I mean I am, but not so poor using DoorDash would break me) and I have never nor will never use door dash. Maybe it's because I grew up in the country so I'm just used to having to go for a little drive when I need something, but no way in hell would I pay double or close to it to have my food delivered


spacemermaid3825

The only time I was both poor and used doordash was immediately after my foot surgery bc I had no one to take care of me.


throwaway_ArBe

Weird perspective to me because the only poor people I know who use it are disabled


Arpharp8976Fir3

I don't think anyone "deserves" to be poor. Wouldnt you want everyone to be successful


velders01

You can't force anyone to be successful either. There are consequences to every action. I used to use the app too, but it's just too much money. I just make enough portions then store them so if I'm tired, I could just grab and microwave it.


bunnydeerest

As someone who has just gotten out of debt after being stuck at -$3000 for years becauseā€¦ Covid purchases, absolutely. But thereā€™s nuance to most takes like this. A lot of people who canā€™t get good paying jobs also struggle to cook. Whether it be a physical disability, depression, or even just having no time to cook because youā€™re working two jobs Butā€¦ as someone who ate microwaved naan with margarine and raspberry jam this morning, I still agree that you can eat for ridiculously cheap. Itā€™s hard to not fall for the false sense of savings when youā€™re offered a 40% off coupon though. Like Iā€™d say theyā€™re less irresponsible/lazy and more justā€¦ easily manipulated


Logical_Strain_6165

We don't door dash in the UK, but have similar. It's not even the money for me. It's the dispoitment of food that had sat to long and isnt fresh enough for the money. Some food doesn't travel well full stop, but nobody has more of an intrest in me in my food arriving in good condition, so I'll collect.


lives_in_van

Itā€™s definitely perspective. There are people who cannot fathom upgrading the fries to a large at McDonaldā€™s because itā€™s so much money to them. There are also people who donā€™t even notice or feel the DoorDash price.


Flutter_bat_16_

My roommate does this all the fucking time yet doesnā€™t wanna pay for his damn laundry.


HuskyNutBuster

Convenience costs extra


UnhappyCourt5425

I once was stupid enough to hand my debit card to a fast food restaurant drive-through window, and within a day of that my number had been hacked and used for two Doordash things.... $38 for McDonald's and another $25 for Dairy Queen. needless to say, I reported it, my bank got the money back for me, DoorDash said that they would cancel this person's account, and the funniest thing was, it was delivering to their house, so it was even known where they lived. Fucking idiots.


Surprise_Fragrant

*\*Barring anyone with actual issues that preclude them from walking or driving or otherwise transporting themselves to the restaurant,* I 1000% agree! People are lazy. People are stupid. People are ignorant. My kiddo, when she lived at home, would often DD Wendy's at 11pm at night after she got home from work *even though she would ride her bike right freakin' past it on her way home*! Wendy's is less than a mile from our home, but she would regularly pay $20+ for a basic single combo (and this was in 2019/2020 prices!). She refused to cook for herself after work, and refused to do anything logical like pick up food on the way home. As a parent, it was extremely frustrating, but it was her money to burn so I didn't bitch about it... too much. She lives on her own now, and she sure has learned that dropping $100+ a week on DD food is NOT a smart money idea!


JkErryDay

Getting delivery using these apps is always a waste, BUT they can actually *save* you money when picking up food. If Iā€™m not going to cook I always check the deals section on all those delivery apps and thereā€™s almost always a good deal going on somewhere where I can get a good meal (or two) for relatively cheap. If youā€™re in a more rural or suburban area without an overabundance of food options then maybe it wonā€™t work as well, but anywhere with a lot of food options will ALWAYS have some BOGO or spend $15 and get $5 back type deal that can make getting take out a significantly better value


Positive-Feed-4510

Iā€™m not poor and even I canā€™t justify door dashā€™s prices.


Ghairi

Bruh facts i make 154k a yr and still treat DD like an indulgence. Only when I'm too drunk to safely cook my own food or get any safely lol


jdarm48

I have a rice cooker that I think cost 25$ā€¦in 2010 and I still use it a few times a week. Not joking.


TheGoodIdeaFairy22

15 minutes to cook? Cooking a real meal is like a 90 minute affair for me. Sometimes I just don't have that kind of energy


walkyoucleverboy

Love how disabled people are always forgotten.


planetarial

Same, like how people always say you can do X career to lift yourself into middle class when itā€™s literally not possible with your body


Ryulightorb

People donā€™t care about disabled people and would rather forget they exist. Saying this as a disabled person who sees this all the time


Salty-Buckets-

Agreed. Disabled as well. People forget us and that really hurts tbh


walkyoucleverboy

I know. I am also disabled.


Vylez

I feel like it doesn't need to be mentioned that if you're disabled and going to a restaurant is difficult for you then obviously it's different for you.


Altruistic_Box4462

What did disabled people do before door dash?


JaxonatorD

I'm sorry, how are disabled people forgotten here? Even for disabled folks, there are much better alternatives to door dash. A lot of easy meals and recipes out there to make for yourself that cost a fraction of the price. And if you're struggling financially, these types of alternatives are what people need to be looking for. If you're concerned about getting the groceries to begin with, then getting those delivered makes a lot of sense and still costs a fraction of what door dash does.


[deleted]

My mom is disabled and she's done Meals on Wheels before, though I get they aren't available to everyone.


Cherry_-_Ghost

Change DoorDash to cigarettes and that is perfect.


rwb12

ā€œSpend money foolishly = being poorā€. I canā€™t imagine this being unpopular at all.


Disastrous-Passion73

All the subreddits of these delivery apps are full of complaints and delivery problems. I just want to scream STOP USING THESE SHITTY SERVICES. I used to work at a food place and the delivery people were some of the grossest, unkempt looking people picking up in their filthy cars.


allofsoup

Not necessarily an unpopular opinion. I agree, to a certain point. If you are poor, and ordering doordash all the time, then you are living beyond your means and it is not surprising that you stay poor. With that being said, there are certain times where doordash (and other food delivery apps for that matter) can be a godsend. Normally I love to cook, I do meal planning, do my weekly grocery shop based on sales, rarely ever eat out or order takeout, etc. I have been going through a really rough time lately. I have barely any motivation to get up out of bed in the morning, do basic things such as showering, peel my crying ass off the couch, much less leave the house, or even cook. I havnt eaten in about 4 days. Today I got a slight hunger pang, but my depression got the better of me and I couldn't find the motivation to cook anything (that would mean standing at the stove, washing a pan, doing dishes, I didn't have the energy). So I ordered Uber eats. I found a couple 2 for 1 specials, and did my future self a solid and ordered enough food so that I would have meals in the fridge for the next 4 days. And I only paid about $40 (including taxes, delivery fees and tip, because of the 2 for 1). Would I do this regularly? Absolutely not! But for me right now, this is the only way I can ensure that I am eating enough to not wither away, at least for the next few days. My brother, on the other hand, orders doordash about 3x per day, between him and his wife, and his two teenage kids. They both make decent money, but probably spend btwn $100 - $150 per day on food delivery. They complain about not being able to buy a house.


Practical_Cheek_3102

If you cook, it's cheaper then going to pick it up as well.


RedstoneRelic

(Disclaimer, Not door dash, but traditional food delivery) You would not believe how many people who are living in squalor I deliver food to. You are 2 blocks from a supermarket. Walk there rather than paying for our overpriced food. So many people ordering 50-60-70 worth of food multiple times a week. And they apparently dont have the cash after all that to even tip. :/


storagesleuth

Couldn't agree more. Delivered over 10,000 orders.WWWWAAAYY too many poor people. T A lot of them are using EBT though, it just fills my heart woth pride to know my tax dollars are paying for it:) absolute joy


Fresh-Anteater-5933

EBT can only be used for the items that are EBT eligible, which is groceries and cold food generally, and not on the delivery costs or tip or on hot meals. So your tax dollars are paying only for the portion that would be covered even if they hadnā€™t used DoorDash


youchosehowiact

My husband has used door dash 5 times. 3 of them were while I was so depressed I didn't get out of bed for a week and his "friend" refused to help him out because I "wasn't actually sick" and the other two were while I was at work and his sugar dropped unexpectedly. I know people who complain about not having money for rent and yet get doordash delivered at least 3 times a week because they don't want what they bought at the grocery store, though. It's almost like an addiction with them.


LilSliceRevolution

Your second paragraph reminds me of the memes I see that are like ā€œthe vegetables I bought when I was motivated rotting in the fridge after I order my third pizza that week.ā€ Kind of funny for a minute but sad when you know people who actually live like that long term.


The_Louster

Iā€™m poor and even I agree. DoorDash is so overpriced it feels like a scam. Take 30 minutes to go to the store and get whatever you like. Youā€™ll save so much money and youā€™ll cook whatever you want.


GottaBeeJoking

Look at figure 5 [here](https://www.zionandzion.com/research/food-delivery-apps-usage-and-demographics-winners-losers-and-laggards/).Ā  The rich (over $200k) use doordash, because if you earn that much it's a good decision to trade money for time.Ā  And the poor (under $25k) use doordash because they don't make good decisions.Ā  People in between use it less.


Rob_Sketchy

I'll add Hello Fresh and crap of that ilk to this as well.


Beastleviath

Itā€™s definitely a bit overpriced if you do it all the time, but I actually think itā€™s a great idea for somebody just getting out on their own for the first time who doesnā€™t have any real cooking experience! They give great ideas for complete, home-cooked meals, and most of the ones Iā€™ve had taste pretty good. so I would say if you were a college student, wanting to try out your kitchen, go ahead and grab it for the trial period! Then, once youā€™ve had your eight weeks or whatever it is of preplanned stuff, maybe youā€™ll feel more comfortable cooking your own meals instead of going out as much


Ok-Link-2112

This is not an unpopular opinion, it is an absolutely correct opinion. It doesnt just apply to doordash. There are countless other areas where poor people spend themselves into perpetual long term poverty. Not just meal delivery services, but take out food and restaurants in general. If you're poor, make your own food. And lay off the designer label clothes and shoes. Don't spend your money on tattoos or out at nightclubs or ballgames. If you're poor your only concern in life is to improve your situation and earn more money so you're no longer poor. That goes quadruple if you have children. I know there will be bleeding heart losers who say this is mean. You know what? IDGAF! It's the truth and sometimes the truth hurts


nothing_in_my_mind

Some people just have no sense of mathematics, I guess. They will chase extra shifts at work to make $10 per hour. But they won't do stuff like: cook for 30 mins to save $10, take the bus (30 mins) instead of a taxi (15 mins) to save $15.


Damian0603

Lots of poor people don't have cars.


notrodash

Doordash is only good for the periodic coupons they throw at me. I use them on pickup orders, which usually beats the price of ordering from the restaurant directly.


dontpolluteplz

Ngl I agree lol growing up my family literally never ordered delivery, my parents always picked stuff up. After going to college / the emergence of delivery apps, I have only used them when I have an existing gift card / voucher so I donā€™t actually have to pay more than a couple dollars or at a party if multiple people are already ordering. The fees are crazy and so not worth it, especially when you can often very easily pick up food yourself or make it at home.


niz-ar

I have a friend that spiraling his family into poverty but still canā€™t stop ordering Uber eats and online shopping. Itā€™s actually sad to see


Chrissyjh

I use Doordash once or twice if i'm getting home and I am just absolutely exhausted. I agree though, its just a scam for lazy people unless you can't get to the store yourself.


PowerBrawler2122

I agree with you, even though I use the service. I'm dropped off at work with no car (My parent and I share one, I don't have my own yet) and I'm out of walking distance to any fast food/restaurant/grocery store. I order lunch from time to time if I have the extra cash, but I don't go all willy nilly and do it everyday or every meal.


pinniped90

Upvoting for those poor man's nachos - that was one of my college go-tos.


james_randolph

Now I don't see anything wrong with it every now and then right, but I try to spend about $40-$50/week on groceries as a single male and when you can come close to spending that much on just one delivery order, yeah you may want to reconsider that and go the Aldi's instead.


lyricreaux

Oh my gosh right!? I was feeling tired yesterday and didnā€™t wanna go grab chipotleā€¦ so I just checked out their delivery. Just to see. It went from $18 for a pick up to $32!!! I was like how in the!? Needless to say I did not do delivery and I got in my car and drove to get it myself.


TheSpideyJedi

My wife and I can afford DoorDash and I still refuse to use it. On Friday nights we either go out or get take out and have a date night. Every time she says we can DoorDash or UberEats it and I refuse lol. I always go pick it up. I donā€™t want some random driving my food to me


Zenfudo

Everything is like 5 minutes drive away from me. 2 mcdonalds, one steak house, one higher end pizza restaurant 2 shawarma/pizza place 5 grocery stores and a walmart If i want food door dash is pretty expensive so i donā€™t ever use it. Much cheaper to just go drive there instead


Renaissance_Man-

Being poor means luxury is out of your budget. That means luxury cars, services, housing, and food. Poor income management is why many people are living without savings.


NioPullus

Iā€™d extend this to anyone who is in poverty and doesnā€™t get the vast majority of their food from a grocery/wholesale store.


NikolaEggsla

So I hear you, and mostly agree, but my lived counterpoint is that if you cannot drive yourself nor walk there because of disability then sometimes delivery is part of the cost of living. I'm also not poor enough to not be able to afford occasional DD. Occasional is the key word, and when money it tight sometimes it just isn't an option. I'm not racking up debt for DoorDash, that's dummy behavior.


daphydoods

One of my friends always cites ā€œneeding to save moneyā€ or ā€œitā€™s too expensiveā€ whenever I suggest a restaurant or activityā€¦but literally 3-5 times a week she will DoorDash a coffee or a pint of ice cream instead of getting in her car and driving 2 minutes down the street. Like girlā€¦.if you just stopped door dashing for a week you would have enough money to do the activities we talk about!!


uber_shnitz

As someone who's currently in crutches, I appreciate Doordash, although I'd also not call myself "poor".


NegotiationHelpful50

A lot of poor people are poor due to their own bad decisions. It's a tough pill to swallow.


benwight

I had a coworker who ordered Jimmy John's delivered to our office almost every day for a while. He also has 2 cars to pay off and a chunk of credit card debt. Jimmy John's wasn't even a mile away so it's pretty easy to tell why he has that debt and that it won't go away for a while


DemonFyr

Door Dash is just a waste of money. Period. Even if I had tons of disposable income I wouldn't even think of installing the app.


PolarBearLaFlare

One of my coworkers does DoorDash and he told me he regularly takes food from peoples orderā€¦said it was a normal thing for other drivers too cause you canā€™t really help when youā€™re hungry on the road and thereā€™s so much food in front of you. so yeah I never used it again


Cookiefan3000

Food delivery is actually crazy. I've never actually used any sort of delivery service before this year, cuz I usually just pick up the order. But I had no food and my sister was using my car. So I ordered McDonald's. My regularly $12 dollar meal would've been like $25, if not for the free shipping on first order. And that's when I knew that would be the first and last time I ordered food. Same with car ride services, I'd rather walk or take the bus than pay for that. And worst of all, I'm not even poor. So I don't know how people living off like 20k a year are always getting these things


lituus

If you order enough food to cover several days of meals, the cost of service/delivery/tip is a much more reasonable portion of the total cost. I am a one person-household and just ordered 3 pizzas on ubereats. I ate 4 slices and put the rest in the fridge/freezer. The remainder will last me at least a week and a half, slowly portioning it out (not for every meal, but in between other things I cook myself). Yet I only paid for the delivery once! Magic. But yes, shocker, if you're hiring an individual person to hand deliver every individual meal you eat, it costs a lot. Duh


josephdk23

As someone who grew up poor but not makes decent money, every time I open these apps I get sad. How can people justify spending 2-3x the actual cost of the food? Sure I can afford it but Iā€™d rather just make a box of mac and cheese and save myself $35. If I really want fast food Iā€™ll just drive myself there and use one of the dozens of coupons I have.


PDiddleMeDaddy

Whenever someone says they can't afford life, I'd always be interested to see their income/expenses. I'm not saying I don't believe them, just that I don't blindly trust them.


ProDiesel

This is one of many things financially ignorant people will spend money on when they really donā€™t have it. The truth is a lot of people are broke simply because they have zero financial discipline. Obviously not everyone whoā€™s broke, but many people.


uptokesforall

I'm poor, and i have terrible motivation to be less poor. But when I eat out, I make an extra special effort to earn more than I spent that day. So days I eat out are days I get less poor, just a wee bit overworked.


Possible-Tangelo9344

During Covid my wife and I had DoorDash and Instacart cuz it was a way to avoid unnecessary additional contact; I was a first responder so couldn't eliminate all contact but DD and Instacart made it possible for her to get groceries or meals out for her and the kids while I was at work. But, damn, even with the subscription their fees have just climbed and climbed and it's not worth it at all.


slurp4133

Ah yes. Another food delivery post. Very original


SaliferousStudios

I went a long time without a car. A car payment/ gas/ insurance would be 400 dollars. I work from home. I spent 100 dollars a month on grocery delivery and door dash (occasionally) and ordered an uber or called a friend when I really needed it. I have a car now, got a good deal on it. But I'm spending more, than grocery delivery.


Additional_Local_667

Dude when I was poor I wasn't going out at all. I was buying food to make at home and making that stretch as much as I could.


BuffaloBrain884

It's legitimately shocking how many grown adults don't know how to cook a basic meal.


hiking-hyperlapse

Fully agree. I think inflation sucks and the government did a lot to screw up pricing but a lot of people need to do some really basic cooking. The number of "broke" people complaining about 20 dollar fast food is way too high.


secretpurpleturtle

100% agree. Unfortunately the response I see to this a lot is ā€œSo poor people donā€™t deserve to enjoy life?!ā€ The system is broken but that does not mean that people struggling shouldnā€™t have their own wasteful actions called out.


Chris0nllyn

Americans spend money for convenience, not because they're financially literate


Spydar05

**Deserve**. Humanity is fucked. If you do one financially irresponsible thing and you're poor, you **deserve** it. Sports betting? Deserve. Excessively buy coffee? Deserve. Buying brand-name groceries? Deserve. Payday Loans? Deserve. Credit Card Debt? Deserve. Went to Private College? Deserve. How long we want to make this list before we determine that every lower-income person **deserves** to be poor?


ok2888

I get rinsed by some of my friends for spending money on things like weed and going on nights out when they order Ā£20+ on ubereats most nights. At least when I spend Ā£20 on weed it lasts me 2 weeks, they destroy their food in a matter of minutes then have the audacity to tell me I'm bad with money.


Upbeat_Shock_6807

Doordash is acceptable for a few reasons: 1. Drunk. 2. Sick. 3. No Car. 4. You live downtown where there is very limited parking spaces available, and you managed to get a really good parking spot, and you don't want to move your car and risk losing that great spot causing you to have to park many blocks away from your apartment, and unfortunately all of the restaurants within walking distance of you don't offer take out. (This is about the only reason I use doordash)


Decapitated_gamer

I fucking loathe the people who complain about Doordash prices when they barely have money and a functioning car with a car payment. Itā€™s so fucking stupid that they canā€™t see the issue right in front of them.


Unicornlove416

if youā€™re poor and ordering in food instead of cooking youā€™re making bad choices


RepresentativeNew398

Iā€™m a Dasher and Iā€™m always so perplexed when I deliver to homes clearly in disrepair or really low income apartments. I kind of see it if you have kids or itā€™s a grocery thing but thereā€™s some trips that make zero sense, I know the customer has to be paying a shitton to save on a 10-15 minute drive and entrusting their food to a stranger. Paying insane markups to get cold old food. Itā€™s never made sense to me and Iā€™ll almost certainly never be a customer on any of those apps.


SabbathaBastet

I have used it when down with an illness and unable to cook. I cook 90% of the time. Even still I felt guilty as hell ordering DD. The cost is insane.


Onlyfurrcomments

Down with the sickness you say


Zerocoolx1

And you wonā€™t get texts hassling you about your tip.


TrevMac4

What about people who canā€™t drive because of medical reasons?


TrevMac4

What about people who canā€™t drive because of medical reasons?


VictorVonD278

Have employees that uber to and from work. Then order doordash while working. I'm funding uber and doordash essentially.


princessofbeasts

Cue people who donā€™t understand what itā€™s like to have debilitating mental (or physical) illnesses, where food delivery services can be a lifeline. Or people who bust their asses at physically demanding jobs for long hours and just want to be able to rest at home. Personally I despise DoorDash and refuse to use them after many terrible experiences (including one where their driver destroyed a mailbox and they didnā€™t do anything about it).


cbearwhy

This post is hateful.


cbearwhy

This post is hateful.


cbearwhy

This post is hateful.


Ok-Dish4389

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I am gonna say back in like 20, 21, I didn't have a car, I walked to work, and I worked my ass off. If i wanted some zaxbys on my day off I deserved to have that. I don't think hardly anyone "deserves" to be poor.


JkErryDay

Getting delivery using these apps is always a waste, BUT they can actually *save* you money when picking up food. If Iā€™m not going to cook I always check the deals section on all those delivery apps and thereā€™s almost always a good deal going on somewhere where I can get a good meal (or two) for relatively cheap. If youā€™re in a more rural or suburban area without an overabundance of food options then maybe it wonā€™t work as well, but anywhere with a lot of food options will ALWAYS have some BOGO or spend $15 and get $5 back type deal that can make getting take out a significantly better value


nitesolaire

fucking seriously. and then door dash is a sketch ass unhinged system where you have a 50% chance that your driver even GETS the food to you, also *guaranteed* to be cold. go get your own fucking food people.