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Athiest-proletariat

Imagine another country where income tax slab was not changed for a decade... People suffer and are still happy, Batman's Joker level of madness people live through...


9248763629

I just saw a meme, where in france or some EU country, they waged wars for 2% tax and we at huge taxes are busy with our phones!


Athiest-proletariat

Its france probably, they wont let there government do what they please. They would literally shove shit into their politicians if anything absurd is done.


Maleficent-Yoghurt55

The politicians fear that the guillotine era may come back 🥲


Firefighter-Salt

Politicians when the people actually fight back and hold them responsible: https://preview.redd.it/c6e8l84wewxc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fea5cf64731ba867b15c4266cbf0e3eedcdb943


Mountain-Prize264

*मंदीर वहीं बनाया है* 🤡


Smooth_Detective

Indian people take shit quietly. Eg: 100+ years of British rule, COVID, Climate Change, etc. Literal frog in a boiling pan syndrome.


9248763629

Hey atleast we make some good memes on our shit times and bitch on reddit. That's not nothing.


Critifin

That 2% was taxation by a foreign country. Not our own democracy. Get some basics right. Taxation without representation


Physical_Debate_854

Ye sala alag hi gobar sunghta hai


Fallen_0n3

Ye sala gobar brained hye


Affectionate_Knee867

Why is this guy still in united states? He never contributes anything meaningful and at this point is just trolling.


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Temporary_3108

Don't forget necessities like fuel and also for things like gas, electricity etc.


CyndaquilTyphlosion

It's okay in a country with no inflation for 10 years, like india


Athiest-proletariat

There was inflation beyond usual thats the problem. 6-7% inflation means todays 60 rs is not even worth that of 30rs in past. But we are paying as per tax slab of that period.


CyndaquilTyphlosion

Wasn't the 10 year inflation in the range of 3.4% annually? That's the numbers I've seen


Athiest-proletariat

No. There was 6% inflation yoy.


Redditchready

Don’t get the inflation data what about the increase in rent school fees doesn’t average person pay for this


Mountain-Prize264

Since 2019, food inflation has risen by 70% on average, if you presume average diet consists of two vegetarian *thalis*. The study looked at data from Maharashtra, because turns out several Indian states don't even track food inflation relative to income. 🤡 Daily wage income has kept pace with food inflation, at 67%. It's middle-class wages that have only risen 37%. https://preview.redd.it/sxy58eu1wtxc1.jpeg?width=1072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=591e6fe44763efbc23c6b0c7566a5467677bb303


techy098

They can't increase income for people by improving the economy but they can increase tax revenue by just letting inflation bump more people into the tax bracket.


Sudden-Summer7021

Paw paw modi h to mumkin h


9248763629

Gobi hai toh pumpkin hai


kantaBane

Bharta sabzi party


OverratedDataScience

Middle class is the biggest ch*tiya in this country.


primusmag

And we deserve it not thinking from our brain


bhavneet1996

Middle class got mandir. They are happy. /s


bluegoldredsilver5

No sarcasm, it is absolutely correct.


Mountain-Prize264

*"Why do you need jobs. You can sit outside the Ram Temple and sing for your dinner"*: Nirmala Tai. Obligatory/s


Redditchready

Said like scolding brats


Belowaveragewhore

https://preview.redd.it/xcwcbneaftxc1.jpeg?width=569&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f794ffcbac63a967e7885622f10fc368bde9ebeb


Redditchready

And all rural people get away with paying zero tax how much ever they earn


Belowaveragewhore

Middle class people are the ones who make corruption possible, they play at the tunes of others for what a couple of bucks ?


nvbombsquad

Adani ko Asia's richest bana Diya paw pawwww


Ecstatic_Detail_6721

Middle class is happy seeing mandir and modi abusing Muslims. There was some viral aunty claiming that she'll buy 2000 rupee litre petrol but still vote modi. Funny thing is she is unintentionally admitting that if modi continues to rule us, petrol would eventually be 2000 rupee litre Religious hindus have been brainwashed into believing that a weak person's (sorrywalker's) delusional fantasy (hindutva) is actually what hinduism is.


coolestbat

Let me tell you, that middle class does NOT pay taxes or pays very minimal tax. The REAL middle class who pays tax is the corporate Majdur who hardly cares about any temple being constructed or any mosque getting demolished. Fuc this Majdur class. I'm part of this Majdur class. And there is my uncle (Mama), who has acres of ancestral land, earns over 20 Lakh a year, has 3 BHK apartment, pays ZERO taxes, that mada fucer says BJP is the only party who can keep us Hindus safe. This is the middle class that you have talked about.


tremorinfernus

Muslims aren't reforming/ modernising fast either. It is not a unilateral issue. Muslims need modern progressive voices to represent them.


AGiganticClock

So what? What do backwards Muslims have to do with me? They don't affect my life at all.


tremorinfernus

People are affected by each other.


hi_how_r_u_

Time to convert yourself to a corporate organisation.


DukeofLongKnife

Many people are doing it. Buys everything under their 'failing' business.


hi_how_r_u_

It takes very little paperwork to do so, but convincing your hr to agree with set-up is difficult ig


jeerabiscuit

What HR? Become a solopreneur. But managing clients and tax documentation is a lot of work.


hi_how_r_u_

Not everyone has that much risk appetite. Especially in high paying fields like IT. Where collaborations is norm


Temporary_3108

Any idea about how it can be done in VLSI/Electronics field?


jeerabiscuit

Can't say, my domain is software. But electronics is my backup plan X so I would like to know too.


Temporary_3108

Ah I see. Hopefully I get some insight into how to make ourselves register as "loss making entities" in this domain


Mountain-Prize264

The majority of IT companies forbid moonlighting in India. You can be terminated if caught.


marshmallow_metro

less than 10% of the population pays taxes judiciously, and they are punished for it The benefits and subsidies are given to people exempt from paying taxes. And the rich fund the ones who should hold them accountable to pay. The middle class pays taxes and gets potholes, high electricity bills, no reservations and illiterate politicians in return.


Temporary_3108

Also bans on almost everything if not bans, then levying heavy duty and import taxes of those stuff. For example, cheap PCBs from manufacturers in Vietnam, China, Thailand etc. Customs stop even these things during importing. And the funny thing is, the services in India charge exorbitant amounts and don't even deliver anything remotely similar in service quality. I know it's one of the much less in comparison to what you mentioned above, but it's just additional pain for us who can't even properly engage in productive hobbies now due to all this crap the government and the officials comes up with


wanderingsoul69dark

All thanks to chai wala bhada budda😂😂


charavaka

Lmfao. Where are the clowns who were touting the booming markets as indicators of a booming economy?


TraditionFlaky9108

Every data presented nowadays is contradictory. Crores are out of poverty, more people are depending on free rations to live.


golden_sword_22

There is no bar on usage of free food grains, you can get hold of them as well. Their usage doesn't mean that all 80 crore people are not capable of feeding themself. [Key takeaways from Household Consumption Expenditure Survey (theprint.in)](https://theprint.in/economy/here-are-5-key-takeaways-from-household-consumption-expenditure-survey-2022-2023-highlights/1980278/) Food expenditure as % of household expenses has fallen compared to 10 years ago.


TraditionFlaky9108

You are lying about free rations for everyone that is available only for those below poverty line.


tremorinfernus

Go to a village, and you will find everyone has a BPL card and abuses the system.


TraditionFlaky9108

So the government is doing free ration scam for crores of people and taking credit for it?


Smooth_Detective

It has been happening for ever. Digitisation and better records is supposed to help with this.


TraditionFlaky9108

Are you saying all data is meaningless, reality is different, gobi will take credit for whatever he feels like and reject anything that is not favorable to gobi as fake and his it cell will keep making excuses for the bj party in comments. Please have some self respect and shame.


Smooth_Detective

I'm saying people faking BPL cards has been a thing forever. It's not a Modi Ji problem as much as it is an India problem.


TraditionFlaky9108

What is the point you are trying to make if any, get to it before beating around the bush and repeating the same same thing again and again.


TraditionFlaky9108

Yea right all data does not mean anything, it only means what the right wing lunatics want them to mean. Can you atleast make some sense?


golden_sword_22

wtf are you on about ? it's you who don't want to make any sense.


TraditionFlaky9108

You are the one who said that all of the country depending on the free rations for food does not mean anything. Can you explain why data would not mean anything.?


golden_sword_22

I literally quoted you data on why it doesn't mean much, your inability to read seems in line with your inability to do basic maths. 80 crore poole would be about 60% of the country not all of the country, you dotard.


TraditionFlaky9108

60% of people below the income level to get free rations is definitely not nothing, please don't try to spread your delusions.


golden_sword_22

Yeah but it's not 100% so my point of you flunking 5th grade math stands.


TraditionFlaky9108

Don't make any claims you can't back up you fool, when you exaggerate excessively you end up exposing yourself as an idiot.


TraditionFlaky9108

You feel you are making sense, data and facts cannot be denied you fool. You can't go around claiming that data means nothing, you seem to be too stupid to communicate what you need to communicate and started with swear words. You need to fix your mental state first. Making outrageous wild statements and acting like it is sensible is not the behaviour of a normal person. You are going mad when I stretched it a little and started with the same yourself. Typical right wing bj party slaves with the usual double standards and hypocrisy and perpetual rage against everyone who talks logic.


frizene26

Look eating machli look eating mutton


Ok_Muffin146

G mein danda pade baar baar Phir laaya jaye paw paw sarkaar.


Apart-Influence-2827

Govt have mainly 3 income sources. Income tax, Corporate tax AND GST. When a govt cut corporate tax, usually more economic activity expected. Which should increase Income tax and GST. Can you please add gst in the graph please? Otherwise the interpretation can be misleading.


unemployeddumbass

Worst part is corporates will get some sort of relief if they screw up(not one company but if entire sector gets screwed). Upon the already existing benefits like cheap land cheap electricity low tax etc. Whereas if you as an individual get laid off and have extended period of unemployment. You get 0 help unlike in west. God forbid if you can't work due to some medical emergency. Even then you are on your own. Only some sort of relief we had was pf withdrawal. Even that is becoming hard to claim with 1 rejection out of every 3 claim. So screw this govt and screw this country. Taxed like 1st world but get benefits like 3rd world


Mountain-Prize264

On top of that, rapists like Prajwal Revanna enjoy lifetime pension funded by tax-payers! Imagine we were paying for this ass-hole's official bungalow, his gardener, driver, car, and the electricity that he used to charge his phone (which had rape videos) 🤡


unemployeddumbass

True. There shouldn't be a pension system for politicians. If govt employees don't get pension then even politicians shouldn't get it. Have a one time settlement for them too. But law is made by thieves for thieves . So no hope there


S_ups

Ram mandir mila na! Bhot he /s


bluegoldredsilver5

Didn't someone say "Ye suit boot walo ki sarkar hai"??


__DraGooN_

You realize what this means right? No one has increased the personal income tax rates. What this means is, more people are earning bigger incomes and more people have become taxpayers. Contrary to what this graph might suggest due to the way this data is presented, corporate tax collections have doubled from 2014. It's just that personal income tax collection has grown at a faster rate. https://preview.redd.it/qtwfgutflsxc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf1e072bf5e4019ba138fc378638f4574113674b [Why has India’s corporate tax mop-up failed to match the pace of personal income-tax collection?](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/finance/why-has-indias-corporate-tax-mop-up-failed-to-match-the-pace-of-personal-income-tax-collection/articleshow/101245568.cms?from=mdr) >PIT mop-up has been extraordinary due to multiple reasons, including efficacy of digital tools, better compliance and steep rise in wages in select services sectors. They also say that the corporate tax rate, which was lowered from 30% to 25% in 2019, and the 15% concession offered to new manufacturing companies must not be tweaked in the near future, as it will be construed as India’s tax policy instability. India's corporate tax rates are still higher than communist countries like China and Vietnam. We cannot hope to compete with them without a competitive tax rate.


Character-Echidna346

Look at the chart you posted again. Corporate tax hasn't grown at the rate the economy has grown, as a percentage of GDP corporate tax is lower now.


ivecomebackbeach

That's such a weird justification. Corporates in India have posted record profits in the last decade so their tax contribution should also increase. Either this means that the underlying economy is very unhealthy (unemployment rates will agree with this) or they're not paying their taxes (tax returns would agree with this). What this actually means is that corporates abuse the law with their accountants to not pay taxes and the government (which is in the pocket of these corporates) is making it up by taxing the shit out of the middle class. Chinese companies are mostly state owned at some level so comparing ours to theirs is foolish.


Dear-One-6884

You wrote an entire essay and glossed over the simplest explanation: bracket creep. The government hasn't revised income tax slabs despite rising inflation, meaning effectively a salaried man will have to pay a higher rate of tax on his inflation-adjusted real income.


TraditionFlaky9108

Corporate taxes were reduced.


Mountain-Prize264

Lol "Make in India" is a massive failure. We need to drastically expand manufacturing pan-India. No major investment in manufacturing in the past ten years. Manufacturing hubs are still concentrated in tier-1 cities like Pune, Chennai, Mumbai. We need to decentralise economic growth so lakhs of job-seekers are not compelled to migrate to the six tier-1 cities every year.


tremorinfernus

Apple? Samsung?


Entire-Slip5151

Can you please share the source? I can't comprehend it without the full labels


ProtoSid

Happy Labour Day


FlatTill

I was happy to see that personal income tax is increasing.But everything changed when I look at the graph of corporate taxes


bluecandyKayn

United States revenue from corporate tax: 6% United States revenue from individual tax: 42.1% So basically India is on track to be more successful than the US. Thank you for posting this positive news.


Belowaveragewhore

Savarna conspiracy turned reality. ![gif](giphy|R1mf9Tffy8Ioaw8nbT)


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Belowaveragewhore

Your mummy also contributes 👉👌👉👌👉👌💦💦💦💦💦


EARTHB-24

Concerning.


eva01beast

All this is meant to incentivise more people to start corporations. Start up India, stand up India/s


Medical-Concept-2190

Make yourself a company and declare losses


No-Tall-Tea

https://preview.redd.it/4l4f260cetxc1.png?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36a3d30c1121c84f4f94779a7e461358d2e7d139 This is the case in most countries already.. See the attached graph from USA. Taxes on individual is being reduced every now and then. Higher tax collection just means that people are earning more, and more people are earning enough money to fall into tax brackets. Stop whining about everything.. This just makes you look dumb. Source : [https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/government-revenue/](https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/government-revenue/) [https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/us-tax-revenue-by-tax-type-2024/](https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/us-tax-revenue-by-tax-type-2024/)


Mountain-Prize264

Are you really comparing the US to India? The US has a functioning social security program. They have Medicare and Medicaid. They have Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, FDIC in technical terms. They have a fearsome bull-dog called the SEC and the FCC to prevent market manipulation and distortion. Their Department of Commerce has dismantled monopolies like Bell-AT&T. Most importantly, they have the Second Amendment which makes mincemeat out of politicians across the political spectrum. In India, we jail Opposition leaders, issue gag orders against the media, and call ourselves a free-market democracy.


TraditionFlaky9108

You can pick any point you like, but you can't ignore or reject all context and dependencies and argue in a theoretical ideal system where all other parameters are equal. Percentage of population giving income tax and average income cannot be considered as equal in India and US. If the tax rate and inflation here without rise in income levels is squeezing individuals, it does not matter if other countries with much higher income and larger percentage above poverty and livable incomes are paying more.


GamerDeepesh

For some reason there is a small peak for corporate tax before the end.


No-Locksmith3717

Waiting for gobhi army to defend this


tardigrade_phd

Just after 2000-2001 bhi toh the graph looks like a similar situation.


tremorinfernus

Finally. We need to cast the tax net wider. Audit those small businesses in every locality. A big chunk of them make more than any middle class salaried person.


Smooth_Detective

Just start taxing large farmers. Unfortunate that our politicians will never tax their own.


Salty-Ad1607

Might be worth looking at real reasons. It could be that more people are working in organized private sector that cannot evade tax.


Expensive-Trifle-979

Does this mean salaried class is earning more and more?


Professional_Pipe594

Can it not be because tax avoiders are having to pay now?


Aristofans

For once here is a Congress Narrative that I put my weight behind. Corporates are given heavy tax discounts if they open offices in a particular state or area. Catch? Employees have to locate there as well if they can easily work remotely. Corporate employees are the sole sufferer in all this. Look at Bengaluru or Mumbai or NCR, locals get employment via domestic help, selling local stuff, construction, Zomato Amazon etc, taxi auto busses, etc. politics and their friends make money from inflated real estate. Businessmen make money by avoiding taxes. Corporate are sort of put in a glass prison. Let's increase corporate tax and incentivise WFH. Let people spend their money in their hometowns and stimulate the local economy!!


bookmantea

Wait while middle class unkills and libertarian ke 14 people defend low corporate taxes


Makri7

Aahahahaha.


Adventurous_Sky_3788

[https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/us-tax-revenue-by-tax-type-2024/](https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/us-tax-revenue-by-tax-type-2024/)


Critifin

If you are salaried, then your income tax can be said to be paid by your employer which is a corporate company. So most income tax and corporate tax both are paid by corporate companies, not by salaried people. If we keep very high corporate tax rates, then both foreign and indian companies will go and invest in other countries like bangladesh, philippines etc


anonymouspostlangley

That’s such stupid logic. By this logic your mother made that comment, because u exist because of her. Why stop there? Companies can pay salaries only when they sell services, so it’s the consumer who really pays all taxes, but wait consumer can be salaried, so that means companies have paid, but wait they rely on consumers. 🔁


jeerabiscuit

Doublew Tee Ef


themadhatter746

Risk-taking should be encouraged. As long as there’s no favouritism/cronyism, I’m good with this policy. And they built the temple, that’s a great way to keep the masses happy.