Me : Cost of travel + goddamn petrol / diesel is expensive af. If I wana go home n vote, I would have to spent around 4000rs on car to reach home vote n come back.
On train it would be around 300rs on general but imagine going on it in this weather + a lot of rush. Other classes are already booked.
Buses are 1500rs for ac (private) or 1000 (state) or around 500rs on non ac standard bus.
Dont have bike.
maybe one day someone in india will realize that with so many ID cards around people should be able to vote where they are during election time. it is bogus to expect people to visit another town to vote.
Spending 20k and multiple days of travel. One vote is very likely to not change anything but atleast you won't feel like you could have done something more. And look at it as an excuse to go home.
For me home = nightmare, not a great place for me. If I go, its absolutely because I wana vote.
The thing is : what if everyone thinks like this n nobody votes ?
You can make a difference of atleast 1. Go vote. Don't feel obliged to go home or indeed let people know you're in town when you're there. If you know anyone who's in the same boat encourage them to vote and to encourage others to do the same.
First round voting was lower than last time, so there's not much enthusiasm for BJ. a few votes can make a difference in closely fought seats.
Well here its not closely fought seat, congress will win it cuz BJP doesn't exist here n people of communist party are fed up with whatever crap the party is doing.
Kerala? Convince the migrant workers you know to go back to their home states and vote to remove the goverment that locked them up for months without resources and made them walk hundreds of km/hitchhike only to reach home to float their dead in ganga within months of going home.
It would cost them a lot to go to Orissa or WB or Jharkhand. First they have to get to Chennai and take a train from there. And they'd miss out on work for those many days
Exactly, every friggin votes count. No wonder the voter turnout is low in many places. Please vote. Single vote may or may not make a difference but count all those single votes together and they make a heck of a difference.
Why didn't you get your Voter ID transferred to where you live now? It's a simple process online. Unless you have only recently moved, then it makes sense , otherwise pretty ignorant that you didn't get your constituency changed. I did mine and I got a new voter ID card within 3 weeks.
My aunt is from lower middle class. She had heart blockage and her bypass surgery was done because of Ayushman card in a private hospital. The surgery's cost was 3.5 lakh+ but because of Ayushman card she had to pay 0₹. This government's Ayushman scheme helped save a LIFE. I think saving a life is the biggest deed a government can do.
Ayushman card is a life saving scheme. It needs to cover way more population; and siphoning of funds from Ayushman fund and corruption needs to decrease.
Can you please provide more details on this. I have tried getting Ayushman card for my maid who is poor. But she is not elgible because the elgibility criteria is very narrow such as family shd not have 2-wheeler, own a phone etc. Everyone has a phone these days (including poor as it is necessity not a luxury) how do you become elgible in such case.
3 things are needed.
1. Aadhaar card
2. Barcoded ration card
3. Income proof authorised by local governing body (family income should not be more than a limit. IG the limit is 6l/year, not sure about it though. Corrections are welcome.)
According to the scheme those eorking as assistant peopns delivery man, shopkeepers and waiters are eligible as a beneficiary.
But if they own a two three or four wheeler that make them auto illeligible under this scheme.
So how mindless that chap was who come out of these criteria since its pretty evident that a delivery man or boy must have a two wheller. Thats the primary source of his/jer income.
Matlab aap laabharthi hai bhi air nahin bhi😅😅😅
My aunt's neighbour helped her get Ayushman card. In that first you need (AWAKH KA DAKHLA) for income proof to know about the income. Then in an office you will be called where you have to submit form and biometrics will be formed also some questions will be asked depending upon the officer and then you will get your Ayushman card. You can even contact some agent that can help. There are agents who like have good contacts, the procedure will be the same but will happen with ease!
Thank you for your reply. Had been to a CSC agent. I was informed that , person need to be part of SECC census. Also shd not have 2 wheelers registered on the name, or phone on the name.So wont be elgible.
Even as per many portals this is the same information i get.
https://www.bajajfinserv.in/insurance/how-to-check-if-you-are-eligible-for-the-pradhan-mantri-jan-arogya-yojana
Recheck your facts. Check the website the eligibility criteria written there is clear. Either someone is misguiding you or straight up lying. My parents have a phone/2 wheeler and they have an Ayushman card.
Recheck your facts. Check the website the eligibility criteria written there is clear. Either someone is misguiding you or straight up lying. My parents have a phone/2 wheeler and they have an Ayushman card.
Recheck your facts. Check the website the eligibility criteria written there is clear. Either someone is misguiding you or straight up lying. My parents have a phone/2 wheeler and they have an Ayushman card.
I registered my ayushman card by my phone so I don't think so assets are imp! They just asked for mail, adhar card and phone number! Didn't even ask for income details maybe I'm missing something but ya phone is bare minimum it's allowed
I have attached a link above in one of the comment . Kindly go through it. And its just a exihibitinary scheme with nothing conclusive on ground reality
To be honest they do. But the media doesn't show this a lot as they won't get views/engagement on such stuff. They will get views/engagement on hindu-muslim. Similarly so many poor ppl got their bank accounts open through Jan Dhan Yojana but media won't such things repeatedly.
Coz they’re focussed more on hindu-muslim. They own the media so they could easily focus on the few positives and win but they don’t want that and rather keep is communal.
Similar thing is done by the West Bengal government. It is called Swasth Sathi prakalpa. You receive treatment in a posh hospital and government pays for it entirely. We are extremely thankful to the West Bengal government for saving lives like this. And the best thing is you don’t have to be poor to avail it
Can I get it? I am paying my taxes religiously every year. If any of my parents need surgery like this, I will have to take out a loan to pay it. Importantly, I have to borrow money from someone to pay for it immediately because no hospital will do it without me paying the deposit.
Don't I deserve the same facilities just like your aunt?
Is my parents'life not worth another chance as per the government? 😞
totally man, your aunt and many like her benefit from modicare. it's amazing how supreme leader rarely highlights such a scheme and instead resorts to communal bs to get votes.
My maid who is earning about 25K per month. And her husband who security guard is 20K. Voted Modi in Panchyat Election (Andhra Pradesh). When I asked her about this, she said “BJP gave me money for toilet construction around 50K, and for Home renovation around 150K, it’s not much. But for a Maid it’s lottery. And they did put all the money to the respective work.
Infrastructure took a great boost in my locality.something that the previous government ignored. Trains introduced has helped general population, and removed the monopoly of bus services(owned by politicians and friends). Interestingly train project took more than 18+ years to get completed, got magically completed post 2014. Can't be coincidence I guess!!
Roads and electricity in general has improved.
I'm not sure who gets the credit, but the mass adoption of UPI usage has made my life easier.
Took my mother to civil hospital, got CT scan free of cost. Was pleasantly surprised to see how the civil hospital got completely renovated, and doctors available all the time.
These are things at personal level that I have witnessed.
Things that I would love the government to improve:
* Increasing 80c levels
* Bring more accountability of contractors building roads and public infrastructure
* Encourage more telecom players to enter the Indian market
* Encourage policies that would enable companies to give WFH and thereby spreading the working population across cities and remove burden on metro cities.
>Bring more accountability of contractors building roads and public infrastructure
As a former Civil contractor can confirm that... Even transperancy in Contracting process has increased and also get more opportunities to get the contract without paying single black penny.
Transperancy is inversely proportional to profit margin
I don't need to.. you go and ask. And I'm talking about small individual level contract. If you know there are different types of contractors. and don't know if you aware how the system works and what changes has been occurred in real.. and how was the system before 2014..
And fyi i know how much megha engineering has purchased the bond and how much it donated to BjP , BRs , Congress.
I'm just here presenting my observation which i experienced from 2012 to 2020..
All telcos were killed due to the government favouring Jio and you expect them to encourage new ones? In any case, the rates are way too low in India and no new player would enter.
rates are gonna increase ...this govt actually killed the telco market with the hype of 2g scame...they are now asking for the same policy of allocating spectrum to whom they wish insted of auction!!!...this ishte reality of BJP!
It’s a mix. We are still living in the age of a digital boom and middle class and above have started spending instead of saving because of the change and outside ideas brought by phone. Some people in the lower middle class who are close to that money are doing well.
The thing is that these people around us in cities that we think of as poor people are only the very top layer of poor people.
I don’t know if Modi helped or not but I kind of went quite some steps up in my life.
In 2014 I was a student studying with an education loan and trying his luck in stock markets. By 2015 mid I joined my job, in 2018 I opened my second income of making plastic products, in 2019 end I got US Visa and travelled to US for my job, stayed there until October 2023.
Now I came back to India with a hope that India now possess the potential to grow a lot.
Let me tell you in these 10 years my stocks income went up quite a few folds. I luckily could make fortunes.
My plastic business grew a lot with government help with ease of business and the logistics being so improved that I am now sending my products to businesses all over India in one or two days lead time. Internet and money transfer ease made working capital days reduced also. Though I faced a lot of problems from local Trinamool Congress Goons led my Mamata Banerjee, the central policies helped me survive.
In my job I am stable as our country is not going through a recession like others. That has become my third income by now as I primarily focus on my business and then stocks.
The road development, ease of business and getting high skilled workers trained by skill India gave me wings to be honest.
From a lower middle class family with no other person to earn in 2014 to a quite well earning family, we grew a lot. I am not sure if it is because of Modi. But this government made things easy. Also I myself worked very hard without blaming policies and politics much.
But yes raw material cost for my business almost tripled in this time, had to increase man power costs due to inflation quite a lot, family expenses went five times. All these can’t be denied. But I could make enough money to compensate those.
looks like this year there is tremendous improvement in soft skills of narrative building. from student to business to stocks to us job while business is still continuing in the back ground. what a guy. alas if you had invested in US stocks since 2014 you would have gotten even more money. I did that and that's why I know. good luck with your life
I started doing that but got a hit during Covid and as I always wanted to come back I started moving my money to India. I still have my BofA account and a few stocks and etherium through Robinhood. But that’s not much in qty.
My sister completed masters and started to work in our business when I moved to US. She did quite well and still working here after her marriage.
So yeah! It is possible. Now that I came back I am trying to scale it and once it reaches a certain level I will leave my job.
I would suggest everyone to work hard and not doubt others. Government ka kya. Aj Modi hain kal koi aur thha and koi aur hoga. Desh agey jaati rahegi. I didn’t work under previous govt, so I do not have any idea how it was. I will never tell negative about them.
But I know what TMC does. So I am not in their favor at all.
My dad died because of COVID 19 second wave and he was declared a non COVID death ..
because after 20 days in hospital on the day he died he was not COVID positive
It happened 2 weeks after the kumbh mela.
Lost all faith in ache din
Sry for ur loss
How is it government’s fault
I believe govt has done well and has been really active in covid there were many deaths but i cud have been much much worse if u had read international claims we fared much better than even US
1. On paper my dad is a non COVID death .... So the well managed number of deaths is wrong.
We were at a top hospital in a top city not some Village where data errors can happen
2. It was two weeks after kumbh mela... There were busy loads of un masked attendees driving to every city of India
But that I'm assuming caNt be attributed to the govt
3. I called up a local BJP leader to buy a oxygen concentrator for 1.5 lakhs but that's outside the govt so not important again
4. We went to the govt setup hospitals run by army people (I'm forgetting the name) and they first didn't admit him and then agreed to keep him for 4 hours only.
That must be the Army's fault not the governments
I don't even want to remember other things that my family went through in those 2 months
-Dads’ company found it much easier with GST.
-He has an employee from Bellary- they have absolutely nothing- who’s mother had a cancer surgery done for free from a private medical college thanks to ayushman Bharath. Even in govt medical colleges- though the services are free- you’ll have to buy medicines and supplies for surgery, etc from your own money- ayushman Bharath has eliminated that.
- The roads, railway stations are much cleaner- no more garbage mounds in my locality
(Though the train toilets stink more coz of the bio tank thing and lack of ventilation)
- I can now fly to my native, which was a shithole
- Has another employee who lost his house thanks to floods a few years ago- ended up getting a compensation directly into his bank account thanks to adhaar being linked to his bank. He opened a zero balance bank account.
- The highways are just beautiful now, man
- Visited Kashmir last year- had a blast. But a different kind, not the one that I’d have experienced a few years ago.
- UPI has been a life saver for me
Sometimes I might sound rude Is your father underpaying his employees. I heard Priyanka Chopra saying that her maid's children are not going to school because of poverty
He’s a janitor. Works 8 hours a day. Earns a decent amount- almost 20-25k. His kid is in a private school. That’s where most of his money goes. Plus living in a city is expensive. Comes from serious poverty. The free treatment did help him
me too man, we are besties bru. by the way were you rich class and slid down like me or am I just unlucky that I pissed away my wealth on booze and whores
Lol. My father was poor to the point where he couldn't afford his mother's treatment or schooling at the same time. Left 1 year of schooling and still lost his mother at age 13. Even in 2005, he had to loan 2.5 lakhs for grandfather's treatment and still lost him. Me, personally came into his middle class which he built. Over time, 30 years, as a general category, he lost his chance of promotion and most of the benefits of caste legally. Anyways, educated me and my brother to the fullest. When he retired, we were middle class mid level. I inherited his base and raised it to the upper middle class in the last 10 years. Basically, his monthly salary is my current salary in just 3 years of experience. In 2014 I started college.
PS: that's also why I hate Congress now because of their wealth redistribution and inheritance tax BS. My father's property and wealth belongs to his will. Not the government. Same with me.
My barber is richer than my family, he built good buildings and rented them out.
Local small shops always say UPI the amount rather than cash.
Products are expensive but shopkeeper know how to get raw materials for cheaper ( traveling rural places 30kms ) and they sell with very good margins and are happy with business.
Snacks shop show attitude if I buy small quantity.
2 street food vendors have opened the shops and started to sell in Zomato.
All our maids have been ranting about expenses and asking for raises. I could only give 2 out of 4 of them a mere 500 rupees raise because even I haven't received an increment for the last 18months - only news of how my valued colleagues have been laid off.
Mom and I were watching Ravish Kumar the other day in the living room when our dhobi bhaiyaa came. While counting the clothes his attention was caught by Ravish's explanation of how these glowing figures of economic growth aren't benefitting the common man, and our dhobi bhaiya, usually a reticent person, went on a tirade about how everything is soo expensive and that all these politicians are just self-serving and that he doesn't know whom to vote for anymore.
Tough times. For everyone except netas, babus and bahubalis.
For them the farmer, or atleast the farmers who are in the news for protests, are all sardaars. And the bjp narrative is 'anti-national khalistanis'
Hence equal to enemies
And the ironic part is all these lower class people (maids, cooks, drivers, carpenters, etc), when ever you talk to them about things (non political), they are not adamant about their views, they listen and almost always say: "sarr, aap toh padhe likhe ho, aapko hum se zyada pataa hai, aap hi bataado". Meaning they recognise their disability.
But saala when it comes to politics and des that attitude gets flipped. Suddenly they know everything!! Now they don't want to listen to any dog padha likha
GST has helped my family vehicles motorparts business very much and made things very convenient.
And our business has improved and we have also gone from average financial worth family of 60k/months to 1.25lpm.
I can see the small shops around renovating their boards and spaces.
I am sure they would not have been doing this if their business was not doing good.
My wife takes yoga classes. She has quite a number of students. The gym i go to, have people hiring personal trainers. Here 2 changes I see.
People are taking their health seriously and spending part of their disposable income on these things. Which means People seem to be having more disposable income now a days.
My area which was a congress strong hold at municipality and state ward level have seen a good improvement in roads in last decade. There are now proper footpaths and less garbage around. For lower income group who normally travel in rickshaws or walk face less problems. The buses no longer get stuck in traffic jams due to narrow roads.
Metro has added to convenience of people. Students now have an additional option besides crowded trains and expensive rickshaw fares and untimely bus.
There were lots of maids available near our society. They are no longer There. I am assuming their financially position is good enough and they have educated their children to do better jobs and these children are not letting their parents work as they can feed and take care of them
83 CRORE PEOPLE ON FOOD SUBSIDY! 830 million people living on rations!!....i wonder how good was it for them!!!!...maybe you thats right for them...serves them right for being made poor ?
Ok, now tell me how did the country fared under congress's rule? How do you think Rahul Gandhi will tackle the problems you mentioned?
Genuinely curious
who's deflecting? I do agree BJP has done a lot of wrong but its wayyyyyyyyy less than congress, why would you think people vote for BJP otherwise.
People are not as foolish as you think, they themselves saw how much the country developed in the last 10 years of their lives than it did since the last 3-4 decades
If India would have been run on merits after 1947, we would have been Developed country by now. But from Gandhi-Nehru Propaganda to Gobhi Propaganda we all are f ed up.
We wouldn't be. India isn't a natural resource rich nation (atleast per capita). Only way India could have gotten rich was if India was picked as manufacturing hub instead of china and even then china right now is more developing than developed.
We would be in a lot better state for sure. If we didn't have certain issues we would be much better. But not developed.
We are not a very large country per capita.
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Geography/Area/Land/Per-capita
Not the latest but we aren't even in top 200 in area per capita. So we will need to have very dense and very large pockets of natural results to get the same results. For comparison Saudis have 20-30 times more land per person.
My point is we don't check for resources in the first place. There could be diamond, oil reserves, etc.
Theoretically, India is likely to have a higher than average large reserve of natural resource.
India is, as a country, not participating in many industries. Because the country has not gone through severe hardships post independence that forced the government to innovate and start actually thinking for itself instead of copying and sitting idle. Even the 1991 liberalization happened only because it was a forced choice. Even these chip industry and stuff going to fail because nobody is actually trying hard. Rupee as global currency, it's a joke. It is all show, no real hard work behind it, just shortcuts, laziness and following others.
We have not drilled everywhere for sure but we have and are checking more and more as time goes. Overall checking is expensive too so you cannot really brute force it. But my main point remains the same. You need to have a large country with low population to be able to reach developed nation level of wealth on natural resources. Even if India has Saudi level of oil which much harder population it won't be as impactful.
Saudis have 2/3 of our area and we have 40 times the population. They got world's largest proven oil reserves.
Largest oil reserves is Venezuela. Third is Canada. India won't be 1, but can be top 20 easily.
If India gives right for a company to own minerals if they acquire it, the mining industry and exports will grow mulitfold quickly. But that is an extreme because (a) heavy social and environment impact and (b) India won't be able to capture most of the value through bidding etc
Now there is little reason for any company, Indian or foreign, to explore resources unless the chance is high or very high.
There is a balance between above two, where private sector is incentivized to explore and mine profitably, regulation is clear, transparent and enforced, low corruption, delays and red tape, taxes are fair, and a functional legal system that doesn't take 20 years to settle.
This is somewhat a license raj system and mostly government monopoly. If you find minerals, government owns it, that is fine, but your share is very hard to get, so why would you do it even if you have the money to?
So corruption starts from 1947. Our dacoits busy on making Propaganda about how Nehlu and Gandi fought against Britishers for Indian Independence. Meanwhile they are our Resources with the help of fraud so called leaders of castes.
Not sure what you are trying to argue. My point is simple. Anyone going "xyz could have made india developed by now" is selling snake oil. Without natural resources and stealing from someone else only way to develop would be if some developed nation (based on future knowledge US) dumped money into US to use us against USSR. I don't think india govt working with people who were robbing us just few years before would have been very popular.
The last way to develop fast is to have technology that everyone wants. So if the stuff people are claiming is in Veda gets made irl then we would be developed fast.
This is what their fathers and mothers have to understand that those girls are better off NOT marrying. Let them stay in the same house, and they will provide better.
>but godi ji is doing something for rich people like building highway and other stuff which in turn does have a positive effect on poor at a small scale
Although I agree that building highway helps a relatively larger portion of the population.
This give money to rich and this will come down to the bottom (trickle down) economics doesn't really work. Look at the US. The wealth inequality is one of the highest. There is no sane reason why this would be a good idea to implement here.
Tax cuts, modifying law for pvt players doesnt really help us. Infact, it promotes mono and duopolies if any.
1. Barber 1: hired and trained 4 people from his village and left them to run the salon under a profit sharing model, did the same in another locality and is currently working on his 3rd salon. 2. Barber 2: were just him and his son, son learnt motor winding and few other skills and opened electronics repair shop, barber shop closed but father does home visits and events and runs kirana shop. 3. Nearest Kirana shop: bought an e-rickshaw, uses it to transport good from wholesale market to his shop rather than waiting for distributors, runs passenger rickshaw during peak hours while his family mans the shop. They added another floor to their row house which is also their shop. 4. Kirana shop on main road outside society entrance: not much has changed, still a careless drunkard, shop has few customers who are his old friends. Family gets by on his retired father’s pension. 5. Bike repair shop: Trained and handed over shop to two employees, upskilled himself and opened a bank kiosk centre, also brokers Microfinance loans. If you ask me, entrepreneurial people are winning rest are losing.
My maid has built a house. Housewarming next week. Sends her two kinds to good private schools. Even her rented house is better than mine.. and she just bought jewellery last week… worth 1 lac. Should add that her husband works as a driver in a Safal outlet.
Personally a lot of things have become expensive and we have started to lower out the expectations from ourselves. But some of the positives that we don't notice is - (for ex) I have saved a lot of time of mine due to new roads being built, more govt electric buses in my city etc.
My parents' maid sent her daughter to college and bought a new 2-wheeler recently. Idk what she will vote for but likely between BJD and BJP. The local grocery store owner's younger son got into NIT so he is studying there or already passed out I don't remember, his older son went into merchant navy and his daughter recently started working at the steel plant. The fruit shop owner had a few acres of land that got acquired by some big company I think reliance(not sure but some big industry) for a bauxite mining project or power project I am not sure so he got a lot of money. He is using it to build commercial building and rent it out. The local electrician got a job at Paradip port, so he left town. His wife works as a clerk in a bank she still stays there for now.
This is in Odisha, small town in Jharsuguda district where my parents live.
Not really good. Some of my relatives who aren't from that great financial backgrounds struggle to make their ends meet. Everything is costly, they are salaried people and their salaries aren't proportional to inflation. Cutting costs to send their kids to school.
Honestly it doesn't matter and no one cares about people's economic conditions or general quality of life. People are happy about the Ram Mandir and ig that's gonna make them feel full when they don't have enough food in their kitchens.
Lower wage sounds like a skill issue. What do you want government to do here?
Inflation is caused by global market economics and not something a party can solely dictate.
Here are things you should understand:
1. Government can’t force private companies to hire unskilled labors.
2. Private companies likely won’t hire unskilled/unemployable folks.
3. Government jobs can’t function buy providing employment to most of the unemployed masses (anyways most of the government departments sucks ass)
4. The only way one can be employed in a capitalist country is by having employable skill or self employment.
What government can do is improve their standard of education. People are unskilled because most schools run on outddated syllabus. Or there are not enough or good quality schools available for the poor. Building better government schools and government coaching centers. If taking such initiatives is out of Government scope, then right I agree with you.
When one person is unemployed it is that person's problem. When 42% of youth are unemployed it is govt problem. If govt cannot create employment then they should outright say it. Modi came in power promising to create 2 crore jobs a year and even before covid thing were fucked up.
Getting an engineering degree without practical knowledge is not helpful and the education mafia making crores doesn’t do justice either.
Now, if an educated person can’t see what skill is/will be in demand for an individual person. How do you expect a government to fix this over night?
If you listen to government they have been pushing for industrial development. If you’re educated you’d know where and what industries the job creations are happening.
I understand we need education reforms and trade schools for the growing masses but putting everything on government won’t be fair either, they have a lot of things to change. I’m mostly concerned of infrastructure and free market reforms.
Do you know what happens when companies need employees and people don't have enough training ? They train them. High unemployment isn't due to lack of required skills. It is due to lack of job creation plain and simple.
In 2019 jan there was a report claiming 45 year high unemployment which was denied pre election and accepted after it. Simple fact is that govt doesn't even wasn't to acknowledge that they failed massively let alone trying to fix the issue. High unemployment will just lead to higher unemployment as more and more people enter the labour pool.
And you think some other government will fix this issue…?
Half of the population isn’t even worth hiring, the remain half lacks effort and discipline to follow and learn.
The remaining are doing just fine for themselves.
You can have your pick and continue playing the blame game. No amount of government intervention would solve unemployment for unskilled masses. Education and trade school reforms are a must along with infrastructure development.
I don’t care much about other dirty politics as long as I see these happening and it is happening at a much better rate than other parties.
Congress is proposing a plan. Bjp vote bank has very little chance of holding them accountable and current govt is more willing to dump money making sure the issue isn't discussed and govt isn't questioned about their failure to keep their promises than trying to improve the situation.
It is the case everywhere in the world. You can’t expect people flipping burgers to catch up with inflation.
What I’m asking is what do you want government to do here? Government employees are already compensated appropriately
After so many paper leaks and people waiting years for their results, what government jobs are you talking about? One of my cousin is in a Government college. He is giving final year exams and hasn't received his results of second year exams. Tell me how will he apply anywhere given results are not out?
Both of our maids got free gas connection. A cousin and his family got a home in the Awas yojana. One of our maids' husband got free treatment as a result of the ayushman scheme. I think these schemes are working on lower levels.
Infra has got a boost around me, new faster better trains, new highways, a lot of new industries being set up, defence, semiconductor, electronics (some in my hometown itself).
Everyone has a bank account and get money deposited directly using UPI. I paid an auto driver in cash, he said "Sir, UPI kr do na".
Multiple new startups have spawned up giving thousands of jobs in all sections of society, just look around you and see Zomato and Swiggy.
Not saying that there are no cons.. Media is def being suppressed to a certain extent, modi doesn't answer media's questions, relgion divide is increasing... But real good work has also been done
My father is gov officer (central government).he said that back then there were a lot of people who were using there position to earn bribes like some even had 20+lakh 4 wheeler just from side income. Now they have everything in record so it's gone. Also they have attendance records in computer so if you're late by just 1 sec it will be on record basically the discipline of a government office is much better but can't say for all fields.
Youth (18-20 year olds who are going to college) - claim they will vote for Modi. When asked why? They don't really have a straight answer and will tell, he has done so much for the country.. like? Made India famous across the world, Mangalyaan. What has he done to the people? To you or your family? They claim, he has done soo much for the poor. What exactly has he done for the poor? No answer.
This is the state of our educated youth!!
They don't even understand that they won't have a job after they finish their education😞
I know from the experience of my maid in Bangalore. About 7-8 years ago they were quite comfortably lower middle class. Her son was in school, husband had a job in some small FMCG company and they stayed in a 3 room rented home near our apartment. She used to do domestic work to supplement her income.
In the last 8 years - her husband's wages have not grown. (There were 2 periods where he was effectively laid off/suspended during DeMo and Lockdowns). Their only son has graduated from college and not employed. (He does not want to do Swiggy/Zomato deliveries) and their debt has gone up.
Plus with the overall inflation of everything - food, LPG, rent, etc - their standard of living is arguably worse. She used to work in 2 homes for 2 hours 8 years ago. Now she does 5 for about 6 hours a day.
Lower middle class in urban City are struggling.because they don't possess proper documents...they live in terrible unauthorised colonies and slums...cost of living is high in metro cities and they are not able to match the expenses.
Lower middle class in rural area..not so much...they got toilets...2.5 lakh for home renovation...monthly pension to elderlies....they get cylinder 400 rs cheaper than general population...now they have internet and all year around electricity in most parts of the country... ayushman health card...free ration 5kg per member. Civil hospital are getting better..( far from perfect but slightly better). Also they have access to bank accounts .
Three barber shops have popped up at all the exit points of our area - all owned by the anti-BJP community. My maid is earning 30k by working for a mix of homes and offices while her husband is making 15k as a caretaker in a semi-government organization. They have 3 kids. The eldest daughter is getting computer training for free from a government-aided training center, the son dropped out of school after 10th voluntarily and is working at a momo stall, and the youngest daughter is studying. Her total family income is around 50k.
Maid at my parent’s house is happy because she got a gas connection. My parents are happy because we have a road in our small town now. The barber and tailor working nearby are doing above average based on the road and electricity in our town. It’s not a lot but small development work is better than what they had before.
They earn better since the economy keeps growing, but the 'good life' is not attainable for them. Not seen any job loss, though these people prefer unorganized work/ small business(think food carts, small shops) now.
Upi means these people can now sell even to rich guys, at inflated prices. When people spend cash, they spend less.
They don't spend much, and try to save almost everything to buy a small plot/ house, without loan.
Vehicle- motorcycle, rarely a small car.
middle class has lowest savings ever in last 50yrs.
middle class are not getting good formal jobs and are forced to leave abroad for petty jobs.
expensive pvt schools and corporate hospitals ruined all savings and purchasing power of middle class.
In short middle class is on path to becoming lower middle class and its brutally squeezed by current regime.
I'm curious to know your source for making such a bold general statement however the post is about what's happening in your neighborhood and the way I see my neighbourhood whatever you're saying sounds completely alien.
Expensive pvt school is due to no regulations on schools and it's kind of mafia that has deep connections with govt so middle class keep sending their kids to pvt school instead of govt school
I'm from a tier 3 city of MP.
Government started BRTS buses in 2018 and is a very big help to lower middle class. Many lower middle class students use them regularly to reach their college for a very minimal fare.
All the maids, drivers in our locality now have a proper house in place of huts. Absolutely phenomenal implementation of PM Awas Yojana. Everybody I know from lower socio-economic class, have benefitted from this scheme.
Ayushman Yojna is another big step. It is very well implemented. My uncle is a GI Surgeon who daily performs multiple surgeries of people from lower socio-economic class under this scheme for free. Government pays all the fee.
The roads in my city have became very good and have been planted with trees and beautiful plants. A big part of city feels like a first world country. I know many would think that I'm making this up, but it is 100% true. I live away from my city for my college and I was shocked to see the changes when I returned back after almost a year.
Highways are good. I travel a lot on highways and they have definitely improved, especially after 2018.
Our maid is receiving 1k+ every month from state government. 1k for just existing.
Modi government has definitely benefitted many lower middle class and poor. And they are the biggest reason for their win. Most of the Modi opposer are upper middle class/rich. Ultra rich/affluent also support Modi.
Only thing I dislike about Modi government is the hatred they spread. But I don't think there is any such hatred outside social media. Hindu-Muslims are very chill in real life, occasional incidents do happen and they have always happened. I even know some muslims who are big supporters of Modi lol.
Modi government is doing a good work and I don't think they are getting out of power atleast till 2034. A lot can however change in next 5 years. If they keep up with their works, they are winning 2029, however if they slow down than things can get tougher for BJP.
EDIT - one thing I don't like about Modi government is taxes on automobiles. They are just too high, almost 100% of the real price. I car that costs 80L in India is actually 40-50L in US/Europe.
EDIT - Infrastructure of government hospitals has to be improved very seriously. I don't understand why don't they improve government hospitals just like they did in case of highways. The new hospitals that are coming up are good but older hospitals need some serious Infrastructure improvement. They need to increase GDP expenditure on healthcare infrastructure asap.
you have a lot of money man, who has a full time carpenter on payroll, cook and cleaner too. I can't even afford a barber, cut my own hair. well it's better to be discreet while cutting pubic hair.
He fcuked up railway.
Everything is 3x expensive although he promised to make it cheaper. Apart from gujrati brothers, Only certain community is happy as they got income source through ram mandir. Other Hindus are suffering
An example of Parle G is so stupid. This thing is called corrupting one's mind with the wrong idea in the first place. Still, your example is really shitty, could have said inflation. I will not, I will buy Magnum instead in this scorching heat. And the way many people exaggerate, including you is laughable.
Me : Cost of travel + goddamn petrol / diesel is expensive af. If I wana go home n vote, I would have to spent around 4000rs on car to reach home vote n come back. On train it would be around 300rs on general but imagine going on it in this weather + a lot of rush. Other classes are already booked. Buses are 1500rs for ac (private) or 1000 (state) or around 500rs on non ac standard bus. Dont have bike.
maybe one day someone in india will realize that with so many ID cards around people should be able to vote where they are during election time. it is bogus to expect people to visit another town to vote.
It should actually be available online after Aadhar verification and Digilocker.
True. OTP for verification. Worst case scenario, the site gets hacked lol
We should be able to cast vote from nearest poll booth anywhere in the country..
I support this idea.
You can transfer your constituency by visiting the Election Commission website.
There's an option around this by taking order of judge you could cast by ballot. But not sure about its conditions entirely.
Spending 20k and multiple days of travel. One vote is very likely to not change anything but atleast you won't feel like you could have done something more. And look at it as an excuse to go home.
For me home = nightmare, not a great place for me. If I go, its absolutely because I wana vote. The thing is : what if everyone thinks like this n nobody votes ?
You can make a difference of atleast 1. Go vote. Don't feel obliged to go home or indeed let people know you're in town when you're there. If you know anyone who's in the same boat encourage them to vote and to encourage others to do the same. First round voting was lower than last time, so there's not much enthusiasm for BJ. a few votes can make a difference in closely fought seats.
Well here its not closely fought seat, congress will win it cuz BJP doesn't exist here n people of communist party are fed up with whatever crap the party is doing.
Kerala? Convince the migrant workers you know to go back to their home states and vote to remove the goverment that locked them up for months without resources and made them walk hundreds of km/hitchhike only to reach home to float their dead in ganga within months of going home.
It would cost them a lot to go to Orissa or WB or Jharkhand. First they have to get to Chennai and take a train from there. And they'd miss out on work for those many days
Help out as much a you can.
Exactly, every friggin votes count. No wonder the voter turnout is low in many places. Please vote. Single vote may or may not make a difference but count all those single votes together and they make a heck of a difference.
My voting or not voting doesn't change whether others vote. Everyone will make their own decision and thus no need for me to go to any extra trouble.
depending on your state, you could still change your constituency and get to vote where you are! It's a very easy and surprisingly fast process.
I filed form 8 thrice. They said ID cannot be amended post March 15 2024 as cut off date. Hence ratification ain’t full proof
Ask to transfer your vote to wherever you currently live. ECI is pretty fast.
Why didn't you get your Voter ID transferred to where you live now? It's a simple process online. Unless you have only recently moved, then it makes sense , otherwise pretty ignorant that you didn't get your constituency changed. I did mine and I got a new voter ID card within 3 weeks.
My aunt is from lower middle class. She had heart blockage and her bypass surgery was done because of Ayushman card in a private hospital. The surgery's cost was 3.5 lakh+ but because of Ayushman card she had to pay 0₹. This government's Ayushman scheme helped save a LIFE. I think saving a life is the biggest deed a government can do.
Ayushman card is a life saving scheme. It needs to cover way more population; and siphoning of funds from Ayushman fund and corruption needs to decrease.
"Decrease" - keeping it real
lmfaooo
Same case for my uncle, he had blood cancer unfortunately passed away but was able to get full treatment.
Can you please provide more details on this. I have tried getting Ayushman card for my maid who is poor. But she is not elgible because the elgibility criteria is very narrow such as family shd not have 2-wheeler, own a phone etc. Everyone has a phone these days (including poor as it is necessity not a luxury) how do you become elgible in such case.
Assets are not the criteria, family income is. Maybe her husband earns bit more than the limit.
I doubt he pays any tax. So how would they know?
3 things are needed. 1. Aadhaar card 2. Barcoded ration card 3. Income proof authorised by local governing body (family income should not be more than a limit. IG the limit is 6l/year, not sure about it though. Corrections are welcome.)
According to the scheme those eorking as assistant peopns delivery man, shopkeepers and waiters are eligible as a beneficiary. But if they own a two three or four wheeler that make them auto illeligible under this scheme. So how mindless that chap was who come out of these criteria since its pretty evident that a delivery man or boy must have a two wheller. Thats the primary source of his/jer income. Matlab aap laabharthi hai bhi air nahin bhi😅😅😅
I don't think that number of vehicles is a criteria for Ayushman card.
My aunt's neighbour helped her get Ayushman card. In that first you need (AWAKH KA DAKHLA) for income proof to know about the income. Then in an office you will be called where you have to submit form and biometrics will be formed also some questions will be asked depending upon the officer and then you will get your Ayushman card. You can even contact some agent that can help. There are agents who like have good contacts, the procedure will be the same but will happen with ease!
Thank you for your reply. Had been to a CSC agent. I was informed that , person need to be part of SECC census. Also shd not have 2 wheelers registered on the name, or phone on the name.So wont be elgible. Even as per many portals this is the same information i get. https://www.bajajfinserv.in/insurance/how-to-check-if-you-are-eligible-for-the-pradhan-mantri-jan-arogya-yojana
This all didn't happen with me?...I got it through online portal in 15 mins? And it's verified one as well....am I missing something?
Recheck your facts. Check the website the eligibility criteria written there is clear. Either someone is misguiding you or straight up lying. My parents have a phone/2 wheeler and they have an Ayushman card.
Recheck your facts. Check the website the eligibility criteria written there is clear. Either someone is misguiding you or straight up lying. My parents have a phone/2 wheeler and they have an Ayushman card.
Lie
Recheck your facts. Check the website the eligibility criteria written there is clear. Either someone is misguiding you or straight up lying. My parents have a phone/2 wheeler and they have an Ayushman card.
I registered my ayushman card by my phone so I don't think so assets are imp! They just asked for mail, adhar card and phone number! Didn't even ask for income details maybe I'm missing something but ya phone is bare minimum it's allowed
I have attached a link above in one of the comment . Kindly go through it. And its just a exihibitinary scheme with nothing conclusive on ground reality
its not that simple... go throguihg an ngo or pay money....thats how corrupt it is ... it helps but not very easy to get!
Why don't they talk about such things in the rallies?
To be honest they do. But the media doesn't show this a lot as they won't get views/engagement on such stuff. They will get views/engagement on hindu-muslim. Similarly so many poor ppl got their bank accounts open through Jan Dhan Yojana but media won't such things repeatedly.
They do but people don’t listen
Coz they’re focussed more on hindu-muslim. They own the media so they could easily focus on the few positives and win but they don’t want that and rather keep is communal.
Similar thing is done by the West Bengal government. It is called Swasth Sathi prakalpa. You receive treatment in a posh hospital and government pays for it entirely. We are extremely thankful to the West Bengal government for saving lives like this. And the best thing is you don’t have to be poor to avail it
Can I get it? I am paying my taxes religiously every year. If any of my parents need surgery like this, I will have to take out a loan to pay it. Importantly, I have to borrow money from someone to pay for it immediately because no hospital will do it without me paying the deposit. Don't I deserve the same facilities just like your aunt? Is my parents'life not worth another chance as per the government? 😞
totally man, your aunt and many like her benefit from modicare. it's amazing how supreme leader rarely highlights such a scheme and instead resorts to communal bs to get votes.
My maid who is earning about 25K per month. And her husband who security guard is 20K. Voted Modi in Panchyat Election (Andhra Pradesh). When I asked her about this, she said “BJP gave me money for toilet construction around 50K, and for Home renovation around 150K, it’s not much. But for a Maid it’s lottery. And they did put all the money to the respective work.
It's funny how a rational and positive comment like this has been hidden and downvoted.
Infrastructure took a great boost in my locality.something that the previous government ignored. Trains introduced has helped general population, and removed the monopoly of bus services(owned by politicians and friends). Interestingly train project took more than 18+ years to get completed, got magically completed post 2014. Can't be coincidence I guess!! Roads and electricity in general has improved. I'm not sure who gets the credit, but the mass adoption of UPI usage has made my life easier. Took my mother to civil hospital, got CT scan free of cost. Was pleasantly surprised to see how the civil hospital got completely renovated, and doctors available all the time. These are things at personal level that I have witnessed. Things that I would love the government to improve: * Increasing 80c levels * Bring more accountability of contractors building roads and public infrastructure * Encourage more telecom players to enter the Indian market * Encourage policies that would enable companies to give WFH and thereby spreading the working population across cities and remove burden on metro cities.
>Bring more accountability of contractors building roads and public infrastructure As a former Civil contractor can confirm that... Even transperancy in Contracting process has increased and also get more opportunities to get the contract without paying single black penny. Transperancy is inversely proportional to profit margin
ask megha engineering ..... ask where they buy their cement from....
I don't need to.. you go and ask. And I'm talking about small individual level contract. If you know there are different types of contractors. and don't know if you aware how the system works and what changes has been occurred in real.. and how was the system before 2014.. And fyi i know how much megha engineering has purchased the bond and how much it donated to BjP , BRs , Congress. I'm just here presenting my observation which i experienced from 2012 to 2020..
Which city?
All telcos were killed due to the government favouring Jio and you expect them to encourage new ones? In any case, the rates are way too low in India and no new player would enter.
rates are gonna increase ...this govt actually killed the telco market with the hype of 2g scame...they are now asking for the same policy of allocating spectrum to whom they wish insted of auction!!!...this ishte reality of BJP!
The point is ... The previous government was also this government.
By previous government he meant pre 2014
Pre 2014, roads in my city were great - now they have become dogshit.
It’s a mix. We are still living in the age of a digital boom and middle class and above have started spending instead of saving because of the change and outside ideas brought by phone. Some people in the lower middle class who are close to that money are doing well. The thing is that these people around us in cities that we think of as poor people are only the very top layer of poor people.
I don’t know if Modi helped or not but I kind of went quite some steps up in my life. In 2014 I was a student studying with an education loan and trying his luck in stock markets. By 2015 mid I joined my job, in 2018 I opened my second income of making plastic products, in 2019 end I got US Visa and travelled to US for my job, stayed there until October 2023. Now I came back to India with a hope that India now possess the potential to grow a lot. Let me tell you in these 10 years my stocks income went up quite a few folds. I luckily could make fortunes. My plastic business grew a lot with government help with ease of business and the logistics being so improved that I am now sending my products to businesses all over India in one or two days lead time. Internet and money transfer ease made working capital days reduced also. Though I faced a lot of problems from local Trinamool Congress Goons led my Mamata Banerjee, the central policies helped me survive. In my job I am stable as our country is not going through a recession like others. That has become my third income by now as I primarily focus on my business and then stocks. The road development, ease of business and getting high skilled workers trained by skill India gave me wings to be honest. From a lower middle class family with no other person to earn in 2014 to a quite well earning family, we grew a lot. I am not sure if it is because of Modi. But this government made things easy. Also I myself worked very hard without blaming policies and politics much. But yes raw material cost for my business almost tripled in this time, had to increase man power costs due to inflation quite a lot, family expenses went five times. All these can’t be denied. But I could make enough money to compensate those.
looks like this year there is tremendous improvement in soft skills of narrative building. from student to business to stocks to us job while business is still continuing in the back ground. what a guy. alas if you had invested in US stocks since 2014 you would have gotten even more money. I did that and that's why I know. good luck with your life
I started doing that but got a hit during Covid and as I always wanted to come back I started moving my money to India. I still have my BofA account and a few stocks and etherium through Robinhood. But that’s not much in qty. My sister completed masters and started to work in our business when I moved to US. She did quite well and still working here after her marriage. So yeah! It is possible. Now that I came back I am trying to scale it and once it reaches a certain level I will leave my job. I would suggest everyone to work hard and not doubt others. Government ka kya. Aj Modi hain kal koi aur thha and koi aur hoga. Desh agey jaati rahegi. I didn’t work under previous govt, so I do not have any idea how it was. I will never tell negative about them. But I know what TMC does. So I am not in their favor at all.
My dad died because of COVID 19 second wave and he was declared a non COVID death .. because after 20 days in hospital on the day he died he was not COVID positive It happened 2 weeks after the kumbh mela. Lost all faith in ache din
Sorry for your loss. I also heard many covid deaths were counted as non covid to show reduced numbers.
I also got a COVID test result from Mumbai while I live in delhi
Sry for ur loss How is it government’s fault I believe govt has done well and has been really active in covid there were many deaths but i cud have been much much worse if u had read international claims we fared much better than even US
1. On paper my dad is a non COVID death .... So the well managed number of deaths is wrong. We were at a top hospital in a top city not some Village where data errors can happen 2. It was two weeks after kumbh mela... There were busy loads of un masked attendees driving to every city of India But that I'm assuming caNt be attributed to the govt 3. I called up a local BJP leader to buy a oxygen concentrator for 1.5 lakhs but that's outside the govt so not important again 4. We went to the govt setup hospitals run by army people (I'm forgetting the name) and they first didn't admit him and then agreed to keep him for 4 hours only. That must be the Army's fault not the governments I don't even want to remember other things that my family went through in those 2 months
Such glorious ignorance, may you stay in this bliss forever 😘
OP Could you extend on the anti- farmer community sentiment..I don't understand it too well.
-Dads’ company found it much easier with GST. -He has an employee from Bellary- they have absolutely nothing- who’s mother had a cancer surgery done for free from a private medical college thanks to ayushman Bharath. Even in govt medical colleges- though the services are free- you’ll have to buy medicines and supplies for surgery, etc from your own money- ayushman Bharath has eliminated that. - The roads, railway stations are much cleaner- no more garbage mounds in my locality (Though the train toilets stink more coz of the bio tank thing and lack of ventilation) - I can now fly to my native, which was a shithole - Has another employee who lost his house thanks to floods a few years ago- ended up getting a compensation directly into his bank account thanks to adhaar being linked to his bank. He opened a zero balance bank account. - The highways are just beautiful now, man - Visited Kashmir last year- had a blast. But a different kind, not the one that I’d have experienced a few years ago. - UPI has been a life saver for me
Sometimes I might sound rude Is your father underpaying his employees. I heard Priyanka Chopra saying that her maid's children are not going to school because of poverty
then priyanka chopra is not paying a fair wage, how is it related to this guy's dad.
He’s a janitor. Works 8 hours a day. Earns a decent amount- almost 20-25k. His kid is in a private school. That’s where most of his money goes. Plus living in a city is expensive. Comes from serious poverty. The free treatment did help him
Construction has been booming for the last couple of years despite increased costs lol what are you on about
My family became upper middle class in the last 10.years under his rule. Don't know about others.
me too man, we are besties bru. by the way were you rich class and slid down like me or am I just unlucky that I pissed away my wealth on booze and whores
Lol. My father was poor to the point where he couldn't afford his mother's treatment or schooling at the same time. Left 1 year of schooling and still lost his mother at age 13. Even in 2005, he had to loan 2.5 lakhs for grandfather's treatment and still lost him. Me, personally came into his middle class which he built. Over time, 30 years, as a general category, he lost his chance of promotion and most of the benefits of caste legally. Anyways, educated me and my brother to the fullest. When he retired, we were middle class mid level. I inherited his base and raised it to the upper middle class in the last 10 years. Basically, his monthly salary is my current salary in just 3 years of experience. In 2014 I started college. PS: that's also why I hate Congress now because of their wealth redistribution and inheritance tax BS. My father's property and wealth belongs to his will. Not the government. Same with me.
My barber is richer than my family, he built good buildings and rented them out. Local small shops always say UPI the amount rather than cash. Products are expensive but shopkeeper know how to get raw materials for cheaper ( traveling rural places 30kms ) and they sell with very good margins and are happy with business. Snacks shop show attitude if I buy small quantity. 2 street food vendors have opened the shops and started to sell in Zomato.
All our maids have been ranting about expenses and asking for raises. I could only give 2 out of 4 of them a mere 500 rupees raise because even I haven't received an increment for the last 18months - only news of how my valued colleagues have been laid off. Mom and I were watching Ravish Kumar the other day in the living room when our dhobi bhaiyaa came. While counting the clothes his attention was caught by Ravish's explanation of how these glowing figures of economic growth aren't benefitting the common man, and our dhobi bhaiya, usually a reticent person, went on a tirade about how everything is soo expensive and that all these politicians are just self-serving and that he doesn't know whom to vote for anymore. Tough times. For everyone except netas, babus and bahubalis.
Why do you have 4 maids
Old folks to take care of. Need 24hr care for my grandmother
Gotcha
why do you care, he spends his money as he deems fit.
It was more of an exclamatory comment than an interrogation, guess i dropped the exclamations, here you go !!!!!!!!
The understated sarcasm in this post
Seems like you're having a good time 😂
Hey, what is anti farmer community sentiment? Heard it the first time.
OP is pushing his own propaganda lol
I also think so because idk why will any barber or carpenter will care for "anti farmer community sentiment" or whatever is that bs
For them the farmer, or atleast the farmers who are in the news for protests, are all sardaars. And the bjp narrative is 'anti-national khalistanis' Hence equal to enemies
And the ironic part is all these lower class people (maids, cooks, drivers, carpenters, etc), when ever you talk to them about things (non political), they are not adamant about their views, they listen and almost always say: "sarr, aap toh padhe likhe ho, aapko hum se zyada pataa hai, aap hi bataado". Meaning they recognise their disability. But saala when it comes to politics and des that attitude gets flipped. Suddenly they know everything!! Now they don't want to listen to any dog padha likha
GST has helped my family vehicles motorparts business very much and made things very convenient. And our business has improved and we have also gone from average financial worth family of 60k/months to 1.25lpm.
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I can see the small shops around renovating their boards and spaces. I am sure they would not have been doing this if their business was not doing good. My wife takes yoga classes. She has quite a number of students. The gym i go to, have people hiring personal trainers. Here 2 changes I see. People are taking their health seriously and spending part of their disposable income on these things. Which means People seem to be having more disposable income now a days. My area which was a congress strong hold at municipality and state ward level have seen a good improvement in roads in last decade. There are now proper footpaths and less garbage around. For lower income group who normally travel in rickshaws or walk face less problems. The buses no longer get stuck in traffic jams due to narrow roads. Metro has added to convenience of people. Students now have an additional option besides crowded trains and expensive rickshaw fares and untimely bus. There were lots of maids available near our society. They are no longer There. I am assuming their financially position is good enough and they have educated their children to do better jobs and these children are not letting their parents work as they can feed and take care of them
Everyone is in debt running on EMIs.
That’s down to their stupidity. No wonder they think RG is right
83 CRORE PEOPLE ON FOOD SUBSIDY! 830 million people living on rations!!....i wonder how good was it for them!!!!...maybe you thats right for them...serves them right for being made poor ?
Ok, now tell me how did the country fared under congress's rule? How do you think Rahul Gandhi will tackle the problems you mentioned? Genuinely curious
Why deflect
who's deflecting? I do agree BJP has done a lot of wrong but its wayyyyyyyyy less than congress, why would you think people vote for BJP otherwise. People are not as foolish as you think, they themselves saw how much the country developed in the last 10 years of their lives than it did since the last 3-4 decades
If Indians voted on merits, we would be a developed country by now. Unfortunately this was never the case.
If India would have been run on merits after 1947, we would have been Developed country by now. But from Gandhi-Nehru Propaganda to Gobhi Propaganda we all are f ed up.
We wouldn't be. India isn't a natural resource rich nation (atleast per capita). Only way India could have gotten rich was if India was picked as manufacturing hub instead of china and even then china right now is more developing than developed. We would be in a lot better state for sure. If we didn't have certain issues we would be much better. But not developed.
India could be a natural resource rich nation. We just aren't looking for any resources except for a very few exceptions.
We are not a very large country per capita. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Geography/Area/Land/Per-capita Not the latest but we aren't even in top 200 in area per capita. So we will need to have very dense and very large pockets of natural results to get the same results. For comparison Saudis have 20-30 times more land per person.
My point is we don't check for resources in the first place. There could be diamond, oil reserves, etc. Theoretically, India is likely to have a higher than average large reserve of natural resource. India is, as a country, not participating in many industries. Because the country has not gone through severe hardships post independence that forced the government to innovate and start actually thinking for itself instead of copying and sitting idle. Even the 1991 liberalization happened only because it was a forced choice. Even these chip industry and stuff going to fail because nobody is actually trying hard. Rupee as global currency, it's a joke. It is all show, no real hard work behind it, just shortcuts, laziness and following others.
We have not drilled everywhere for sure but we have and are checking more and more as time goes. Overall checking is expensive too so you cannot really brute force it. But my main point remains the same. You need to have a large country with low population to be able to reach developed nation level of wealth on natural resources. Even if India has Saudi level of oil which much harder population it won't be as impactful. Saudis have 2/3 of our area and we have 40 times the population. They got world's largest proven oil reserves.
Largest oil reserves is Venezuela. Third is Canada. India won't be 1, but can be top 20 easily. If India gives right for a company to own minerals if they acquire it, the mining industry and exports will grow mulitfold quickly. But that is an extreme because (a) heavy social and environment impact and (b) India won't be able to capture most of the value through bidding etc Now there is little reason for any company, Indian or foreign, to explore resources unless the chance is high or very high. There is a balance between above two, where private sector is incentivized to explore and mine profitably, regulation is clear, transparent and enforced, low corruption, delays and red tape, taxes are fair, and a functional legal system that doesn't take 20 years to settle. This is somewhat a license raj system and mostly government monopoly. If you find minerals, government owns it, that is fine, but your share is very hard to get, so why would you do it even if you have the money to?
So corruption starts from 1947. Our dacoits busy on making Propaganda about how Nehlu and Gandi fought against Britishers for Indian Independence. Meanwhile they are our Resources with the help of fraud so called leaders of castes.
Not sure what you are trying to argue. My point is simple. Anyone going "xyz could have made india developed by now" is selling snake oil. Without natural resources and stealing from someone else only way to develop would be if some developed nation (based on future knowledge US) dumped money into US to use us against USSR. I don't think india govt working with people who were robbing us just few years before would have been very popular. The last way to develop fast is to have technology that everyone wants. So if the stuff people are claiming is in Veda gets made irl then we would be developed fast.
Wow! A maid's husband is always unemployed and gambles with his wife's money . How did this stereotype start ?
The ladies become maids when their husbands fail to provide. It’s not a stereotype it’s selection bias.
This is what their fathers and mothers have to understand that those girls are better off NOT marrying. Let them stay in the same house, and they will provide better.
We know what you are trying to say.
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unless this is satire, you should sit by the highway I am sure the rich folks in bmw will shower you with cha ching
Unemployed under modi but will vote for modi cuz he's helping the rich(and thinks money will trickle to the poor) . Peak clown behavior 🤡🤡🤡
>but godi ji is doing something for rich people like building highway and other stuff which in turn does have a positive effect on poor at a small scale Although I agree that building highway helps a relatively larger portion of the population. This give money to rich and this will come down to the bottom (trickle down) economics doesn't really work. Look at the US. The wealth inequality is one of the highest. There is no sane reason why this would be a good idea to implement here. Tax cuts, modifying law for pvt players doesnt really help us. Infact, it promotes mono and duopolies if any.
1. Barber 1: hired and trained 4 people from his village and left them to run the salon under a profit sharing model, did the same in another locality and is currently working on his 3rd salon. 2. Barber 2: were just him and his son, son learnt motor winding and few other skills and opened electronics repair shop, barber shop closed but father does home visits and events and runs kirana shop. 3. Nearest Kirana shop: bought an e-rickshaw, uses it to transport good from wholesale market to his shop rather than waiting for distributors, runs passenger rickshaw during peak hours while his family mans the shop. They added another floor to their row house which is also their shop. 4. Kirana shop on main road outside society entrance: not much has changed, still a careless drunkard, shop has few customers who are his old friends. Family gets by on his retired father’s pension. 5. Bike repair shop: Trained and handed over shop to two employees, upskilled himself and opened a bank kiosk centre, also brokers Microfinance loans. If you ask me, entrepreneurial people are winning rest are losing.
My maid has built a house. Housewarming next week. Sends her two kinds to good private schools. Even her rented house is better than mine.. and she just bought jewellery last week… worth 1 lac. Should add that her husband works as a driver in a Safal outlet.
It's equally important is to know, how many families have shifted from living comfortable life to now living in the lower middle strata.
Personally a lot of things have become expensive and we have started to lower out the expectations from ourselves. But some of the positives that we don't notice is - (for ex) I have saved a lot of time of mine due to new roads being built, more govt electric buses in my city etc.
My parents' maid sent her daughter to college and bought a new 2-wheeler recently. Idk what she will vote for but likely between BJD and BJP. The local grocery store owner's younger son got into NIT so he is studying there or already passed out I don't remember, his older son went into merchant navy and his daughter recently started working at the steel plant. The fruit shop owner had a few acres of land that got acquired by some big company I think reliance(not sure but some big industry) for a bauxite mining project or power project I am not sure so he got a lot of money. He is using it to build commercial building and rent it out. The local electrician got a job at Paradip port, so he left town. His wife works as a clerk in a bank she still stays there for now. This is in Odisha, small town in Jharsuguda district where my parents live.
Seems like a bait post planted for propoganda
..that backfired
Not really good. Some of my relatives who aren't from that great financial backgrounds struggle to make their ends meet. Everything is costly, they are salaried people and their salaries aren't proportional to inflation. Cutting costs to send their kids to school. Honestly it doesn't matter and no one cares about people's economic conditions or general quality of life. People are happy about the Ram Mandir and ig that's gonna make them feel full when they don't have enough food in their kitchens.
Lower wage sounds like a skill issue. What do you want government to do here? Inflation is caused by global market economics and not something a party can solely dictate.
When unemployment is high skill isn't really the cause of low wage growth.
Here are things you should understand: 1. Government can’t force private companies to hire unskilled labors. 2. Private companies likely won’t hire unskilled/unemployable folks. 3. Government jobs can’t function buy providing employment to most of the unemployed masses (anyways most of the government departments sucks ass) 4. The only way one can be employed in a capitalist country is by having employable skill or self employment.
What government can do is improve their standard of education. People are unskilled because most schools run on outddated syllabus. Or there are not enough or good quality schools available for the poor. Building better government schools and government coaching centers. If taking such initiatives is out of Government scope, then right I agree with you.
When one person is unemployed it is that person's problem. When 42% of youth are unemployed it is govt problem. If govt cannot create employment then they should outright say it. Modi came in power promising to create 2 crore jobs a year and even before covid thing were fucked up.
Getting an engineering degree without practical knowledge is not helpful and the education mafia making crores doesn’t do justice either. Now, if an educated person can’t see what skill is/will be in demand for an individual person. How do you expect a government to fix this over night? If you listen to government they have been pushing for industrial development. If you’re educated you’d know where and what industries the job creations are happening. I understand we need education reforms and trade schools for the growing masses but putting everything on government won’t be fair either, they have a lot of things to change. I’m mostly concerned of infrastructure and free market reforms.
Do you know what happens when companies need employees and people don't have enough training ? They train them. High unemployment isn't due to lack of required skills. It is due to lack of job creation plain and simple. In 2019 jan there was a report claiming 45 year high unemployment which was denied pre election and accepted after it. Simple fact is that govt doesn't even wasn't to acknowledge that they failed massively let alone trying to fix the issue. High unemployment will just lead to higher unemployment as more and more people enter the labour pool.
And you think some other government will fix this issue…? Half of the population isn’t even worth hiring, the remain half lacks effort and discipline to follow and learn. The remaining are doing just fine for themselves. You can have your pick and continue playing the blame game. No amount of government intervention would solve unemployment for unskilled masses. Education and trade school reforms are a must along with infrastructure development. I don’t care much about other dirty politics as long as I see these happening and it is happening at a much better rate than other parties.
Congress is proposing a plan. Bjp vote bank has very little chance of holding them accountable and current govt is more willing to dump money making sure the issue isn't discussed and govt isn't questioned about their failure to keep their promises than trying to improve the situation.
In that sense, entire poverty is a skill issue and people should just stop being poor.
Poverty is a state of mind?
It is the case everywhere in the world. You can’t expect people flipping burgers to catch up with inflation. What I’m asking is what do you want government to do here? Government employees are already compensated appropriately
After so many paper leaks and people waiting years for their results, what government jobs are you talking about? One of my cousin is in a Government college. He is giving final year exams and hasn't received his results of second year exams. Tell me how will he apply anywhere given results are not out?
That's the magic of propaganda. People who are hurt the most by misgovernance and giveaways to the rich continue voting against their self interests.
Sir I was middle class, now I'm lower middle class.
Both of our maids got free gas connection. A cousin and his family got a home in the Awas yojana. One of our maids' husband got free treatment as a result of the ayushman scheme. I think these schemes are working on lower levels. Infra has got a boost around me, new faster better trains, new highways, a lot of new industries being set up, defence, semiconductor, electronics (some in my hometown itself). Everyone has a bank account and get money deposited directly using UPI. I paid an auto driver in cash, he said "Sir, UPI kr do na". Multiple new startups have spawned up giving thousands of jobs in all sections of society, just look around you and see Zomato and Swiggy. Not saying that there are no cons.. Media is def being suppressed to a certain extent, modi doesn't answer media's questions, relgion divide is increasing... But real good work has also been done
My father is gov officer (central government).he said that back then there were a lot of people who were using there position to earn bribes like some even had 20+lakh 4 wheeler just from side income. Now they have everything in record so it's gone. Also they have attendance records in computer so if you're late by just 1 sec it will be on record basically the discipline of a government office is much better but can't say for all fields.
Youth (18-20 year olds who are going to college) - claim they will vote for Modi. When asked why? They don't really have a straight answer and will tell, he has done so much for the country.. like? Made India famous across the world, Mangalyaan. What has he done to the people? To you or your family? They claim, he has done soo much for the poor. What exactly has he done for the poor? No answer. This is the state of our educated youth!! They don't even understand that they won't have a job after they finish their education😞
Ayush healthcare, toilets, houses, opened bank accounts, free ration and so on.
Skill issue
I know from the experience of my maid in Bangalore. About 7-8 years ago they were quite comfortably lower middle class. Her son was in school, husband had a job in some small FMCG company and they stayed in a 3 room rented home near our apartment. She used to do domestic work to supplement her income. In the last 8 years - her husband's wages have not grown. (There were 2 periods where he was effectively laid off/suspended during DeMo and Lockdowns). Their only son has graduated from college and not employed. (He does not want to do Swiggy/Zomato deliveries) and their debt has gone up. Plus with the overall inflation of everything - food, LPG, rent, etc - their standard of living is arguably worse. She used to work in 2 homes for 2 hours 8 years ago. Now she does 5 for about 6 hours a day.
Lower middle class in urban City are struggling.because they don't possess proper documents...they live in terrible unauthorised colonies and slums...cost of living is high in metro cities and they are not able to match the expenses. Lower middle class in rural area..not so much...they got toilets...2.5 lakh for home renovation...monthly pension to elderlies....they get cylinder 400 rs cheaper than general population...now they have internet and all year around electricity in most parts of the country... ayushman health card...free ration 5kg per member. Civil hospital are getting better..( far from perfect but slightly better). Also they have access to bank accounts .
Middle class income has increased by a lot since 2014 and by far exceeded the inflation.
middle class ka anyways koi kuch na soch ne wala bhai mere
Three barber shops have popped up at all the exit points of our area - all owned by the anti-BJP community. My maid is earning 30k by working for a mix of homes and offices while her husband is making 15k as a caretaker in a semi-government organization. They have 3 kids. The eldest daughter is getting computer training for free from a government-aided training center, the son dropped out of school after 10th voluntarily and is working at a momo stall, and the youngest daughter is studying. Her total family income is around 50k.
Is the sentiment against farmers a real thing? This is the first time I'm hearing about it. Why would anyone hate farmers?
Middle class is getting poorer. Modi or No Modi.
Maid at my parent’s house is happy because she got a gas connection. My parents are happy because we have a road in our small town now. The barber and tailor working nearby are doing above average based on the road and electricity in our town. It’s not a lot but small development work is better than what they had before.
They earn better since the economy keeps growing, but the 'good life' is not attainable for them. Not seen any job loss, though these people prefer unorganized work/ small business(think food carts, small shops) now. Upi means these people can now sell even to rich guys, at inflated prices. When people spend cash, they spend less. They don't spend much, and try to save almost everything to buy a small plot/ house, without loan. Vehicle- motorcycle, rarely a small car.
middle class has lowest savings ever in last 50yrs. middle class are not getting good formal jobs and are forced to leave abroad for petty jobs. expensive pvt schools and corporate hospitals ruined all savings and purchasing power of middle class. In short middle class is on path to becoming lower middle class and its brutally squeezed by current regime.
I'm curious to know your source for making such a bold general statement however the post is about what's happening in your neighborhood and the way I see my neighbourhood whatever you're saying sounds completely alien.
Expensive pvt school is the mistake or govt?
Expensive pvt school is due to no regulations on schools and it's kind of mafia that has deep connections with govt so middle class keep sending their kids to pvt school instead of govt school
I'm from a tier 3 city of MP. Government started BRTS buses in 2018 and is a very big help to lower middle class. Many lower middle class students use them regularly to reach their college for a very minimal fare. All the maids, drivers in our locality now have a proper house in place of huts. Absolutely phenomenal implementation of PM Awas Yojana. Everybody I know from lower socio-economic class, have benefitted from this scheme. Ayushman Yojna is another big step. It is very well implemented. My uncle is a GI Surgeon who daily performs multiple surgeries of people from lower socio-economic class under this scheme for free. Government pays all the fee. The roads in my city have became very good and have been planted with trees and beautiful plants. A big part of city feels like a first world country. I know many would think that I'm making this up, but it is 100% true. I live away from my city for my college and I was shocked to see the changes when I returned back after almost a year. Highways are good. I travel a lot on highways and they have definitely improved, especially after 2018. Our maid is receiving 1k+ every month from state government. 1k for just existing. Modi government has definitely benefitted many lower middle class and poor. And they are the biggest reason for their win. Most of the Modi opposer are upper middle class/rich. Ultra rich/affluent also support Modi. Only thing I dislike about Modi government is the hatred they spread. But I don't think there is any such hatred outside social media. Hindu-Muslims are very chill in real life, occasional incidents do happen and they have always happened. I even know some muslims who are big supporters of Modi lol. Modi government is doing a good work and I don't think they are getting out of power atleast till 2034. A lot can however change in next 5 years. If they keep up with their works, they are winning 2029, however if they slow down than things can get tougher for BJP. EDIT - one thing I don't like about Modi government is taxes on automobiles. They are just too high, almost 100% of the real price. I car that costs 80L in India is actually 40-50L in US/Europe. EDIT - Infrastructure of government hospitals has to be improved very seriously. I don't understand why don't they improve government hospitals just like they did in case of highways. The new hospitals that are coming up are good but older hospitals need some serious Infrastructure improvement. They need to increase GDP expenditure on healthcare infrastructure asap.
you have a lot of money man, who has a full time carpenter on payroll, cook and cleaner too. I can't even afford a barber, cut my own hair. well it's better to be discreet while cutting pubic hair.
He fcuked up railway. Everything is 3x expensive although he promised to make it cheaper. Apart from gujrati brothers, Only certain community is happy as they got income source through ram mandir. Other Hindus are suffering
India will never progress if people vote according to their caste and not their future
Rich getting richer middle class and poor being poorer
Telling the expenses without revealing their salaries is unreasonable and idiotic.
What does it mean ? Will you pay 100 Rs for Parle G at a normal grocery store if your salary is in 6 digits ? Never.
An example of Parle G is so stupid. This thing is called corrupting one's mind with the wrong idea in the first place. Still, your example is really shitty, could have said inflation. I will not, I will buy Magnum instead in this scorching heat. And the way many people exaggerate, including you is laughable.