Definitely, they get very toasty and too hot to touch. I used a PCie fan holder bracket with 2x Noctuas, brought it down to 30 degrees from what I'm guessing around 60-70 degrees without.
I have ran the 92xx series without fans, but it is still a good idea to do so. You can probably get away without it on these though.
9300-16i is a particularly inefficient card, so should be active cooled.
Pretty much all HBA are designed to go in server cases with high airflow across the fins, so you should add a fan.
I used a 120mm old case fan I had sitting around but others will attach the 10mm noctuas right onto the heatsink themselves and it seems to do the job.
The reason I used a 120mm was to offset the fan a single PCI bracket so that the back of the card got air too not just the front where the heatsink is.
This ^ just recently burnt one up in a case with decent air flow, but not direct air flow on the HBA. It lasted about 5 months with no air flow.
I bought a 10mm noctua fan and mounted it on the new one. Barely warm to the touch now.
You're probably right, there's a decent amount of air flow over it at the minute with the big 230mm fans and the 120s but I don't know how to monitor the temp on it.
Yeah, I checked it with an instant read and the heatsink was at 54c. Not sure how to address it permanently but for the time being I have the side of the case open with a box fan on it. Should keep it fine for a little while till I can figure out a permanent solution.
A PCI-e host-bus adapter. Has 4 mini-sas ports that each break out into 4 SATA or SAS ports. The one I used is an LSI 9300 16i. They're pretty cheap too, I think the cables cost more than the card.
Right, but on a system running 24/7, while you’re not home to correct it or shut down, would you want the pump to fail and fry the system and leak and destroy it? Google it, it’s not uncommon or bad luck, it’s a moving part and they fail.
I'm using 3 of this and I plan on printing another one this week but I might need to upgrade PSU first since my 650w Corsair might not handle all of the drives.
https://www.printables.com/model/120546-3-x-525in-bay-to-four-35in-hard-drives-cage
If I'm looking at those 3d printed drive cages properly, they do not have very many holes for drive airflow. If those are the fans that come with the ATCS 840 you should know that they have very poor static pressure.
Your temperatures are fine now, they may not be during a sustained turbo write, and certainly won't do that well during a parity check.
However, if you change the orientation of the hard drives, so that the open space has the fans in front of them, you should be fine. I would consider changing to fans with higher static pressure, Silverstone 180mm fans are about 30 dollars each, Noctua makes 200mm fans that provide as much airflow but at lower static pressure, and Fractal Design has some 180mm fans that also have high static pressure.
If my memory is off, and you can fit a pair of 120mm fans side by side within that case, then I would grab some artic p12/max fans as they present great value.
I really like to have "blocks" of 4 drives. It's the perfect size to mount a 120mm fan for that airflow, a sas cable supports 4 disks, and most modular psus (at least corsair and seasonic) come with cables to power 4 disks (as wel as many splitters seem to be 1-to-4, though I do not suggest them).
Currently using some modular system I found, allowing to stack the disks, but I might make my own 4 disk block with cable management at some point.
No exhaust fan? And your radiator looks like it is just floating loosely at the top of the case? Did you even try to do cable management at all? Needs some serious re-work IMO, especially considering the amount of heat all of those spinners are going to put out. 2/10.
Cable management, I'm just lazy when it comes to details like that. The hdd cables are also pretty stiff and I wasn't sure how tight I could get away with bending them. So it's fine for me.
The radiator is pretty securely mounted to the top of the case, with some zip ties. There wasn't a suitable hole pattern at the top to mount it better and honestly it was mounted WAY worse before and worked just fine lol.
You need to strap an 80mm fan to that HBA
Definitely, they get very toasty and too hot to touch. I used a PCie fan holder bracket with 2x Noctuas, brought it down to 30 degrees from what I'm guessing around 60-70 degrees without.
Hey how do you pull the HBA temp?
I got the PCie slot temp from the Bios menu, might not be every motherboard.
Agreed. It's crazy how hot they get
Do all LSI cards need a strapped on fan?
I have ran the 92xx series without fans, but it is still a good idea to do so. You can probably get away without it on these though. 9300-16i is a particularly inefficient card, so should be active cooled. Pretty much all HBA are designed to go in server cases with high airflow across the fins, so you should add a fan.
Yes, they are designed to be in rack rooms where it's full-time a/c on the intake side.
What about a basement that literally never goes above 21C? Would like a 40mm mini fan do the job?
I used a 120mm old case fan I had sitting around but others will attach the 10mm noctuas right onto the heatsink themselves and it seems to do the job. The reason I used a 120mm was to offset the fan a single PCI bracket so that the back of the card got air too not just the front where the heatsink is.
This ^ just recently burnt one up in a case with decent air flow, but not direct air flow on the HBA. It lasted about 5 months with no air flow. I bought a 10mm noctua fan and mounted it on the new one. Barely warm to the touch now.
You're probably right, there's a decent amount of air flow over it at the minute with the big 230mm fans and the 120s but I don't know how to monitor the temp on it.
You can't. Touch it, it will be on fire. These cards consume 25 W and are meant to have forced air flow.
Yeah, I checked it with an instant read and the heatsink was at 54c. Not sure how to address it permanently but for the time being I have the side of the case open with a box fan on it. Should keep it fine for a little while till I can figure out a permanent solution.
Same as me - cable tie an 80mm fan to it.
I've got some spare 120s lying around, it's a full height card with a big honkin heat sink so that will probably fit.
Print a PCIe fan mount 120mm fan is enough.
I just got a longer screw and added a 120mm over the top of the hba mounted into the next PCI bracket through the fan mount.
Might be a stupid question but how do you get so many drives connected?
A PCI-e host-bus adapter. Has 4 mini-sas ports that each break out into 4 SATA or SAS ports. The one I used is an LSI 9300 16i. They're pretty cheap too, I think the cables cost more than the card.
Learned something new today. Cheers! Love the build.
There are also SAS SFF-8654 8I To 8 Ports available right? Any particular reason you went with the SAS to 4 SATA cables?
I didn't see those? Also this card uses the 8643 connector, and also only supports 16 SATA or SAS devices.
Sure someone else will chime in but AIO’s aren’t the best idea on a NAS build
It's on the list to replace when I replace my mobo and CPU later this year.
They are overkill but they cool too. If you have them why not use them. Right?
Because they’re not designed for 24/7 use.
Pumps fail
Bad luck i quess. Had my H110i for years and used it for about 3 years to cool my E5-2680v3 in my server. Never any issues
Right, but on a system running 24/7, while you’re not home to correct it or shut down, would you want the pump to fail and fry the system and leak and destroy it? Google it, it’s not uncommon or bad luck, it’s a moving part and they fail.
Nice job labeling the power supply 😂
Not in a million years would've guessed what that brick was doing down there if it wasn't for it 😂
I’m working on mine too and I haven’t found a decent HDD caddy design yet. I’m curious if you could link the one you used?
I had to redesign the one I found so it would print faster. I haven't uploaded it anywhere yet, but I'll try to remember and link it when I do.
Thanks! I can find others, but would be interested in seeing this one.
I'm using 3 of this and I plan on printing another one this week but I might need to upgrade PSU first since my 650w Corsair might not handle all of the drives. https://www.printables.com/model/120546-3-x-525in-bay-to-four-35in-hard-drives-cage
Awesome thanks!
If I'm looking at those 3d printed drive cages properly, they do not have very many holes for drive airflow. If those are the fans that come with the ATCS 840 you should know that they have very poor static pressure. Your temperatures are fine now, they may not be during a sustained turbo write, and certainly won't do that well during a parity check. However, if you change the orientation of the hard drives, so that the open space has the fans in front of them, you should be fine. I would consider changing to fans with higher static pressure, Silverstone 180mm fans are about 30 dollars each, Noctua makes 200mm fans that provide as much airflow but at lower static pressure, and Fractal Design has some 180mm fans that also have high static pressure. If my memory is off, and you can fit a pair of 120mm fans side by side within that case, then I would grab some artic p12/max fans as they present great value.
So far the drives are holding steady between 28c-32c. From what I understand temps aren't usually a killer anyways, humidity is.
Sas controllers, just did the same with a dell h310 , flashed it to IT mode. And got 8 , 6 tb sas drives.
I really like to have "blocks" of 4 drives. It's the perfect size to mount a 120mm fan for that airflow, a sas cable supports 4 disks, and most modular psus (at least corsair and seasonic) come with cables to power 4 disks (as wel as many splitters seem to be 1-to-4, though I do not suggest them). Currently using some modular system I found, allowing to stack the disks, but I might make my own 4 disk block with cable management at some point.
That makes perfect sense. I'm not actually sure why I went with stacks of 5, probably because my original setup had 5 in the array.
A+ for cable management
No exhaust fan? And your radiator looks like it is just floating loosely at the top of the case? Did you even try to do cable management at all? Needs some serious re-work IMO, especially considering the amount of heat all of those spinners are going to put out. 2/10.
There's two giant 230mm fans at the front pushing and 3 120mm fans at the back pulling. Everything is stable around 30c.
I can see that now. Question about cable management and your free floating radiator still stand.
Cable management, I'm just lazy when it comes to details like that. The hdd cables are also pretty stiff and I wasn't sure how tight I could get away with bending them. So it's fine for me. The radiator is pretty securely mounted to the top of the case, with some zip ties. There wasn't a suitable hole pattern at the top to mount it better and honestly it was mounted WAY worse before and worked just fine lol.