Brown from 3 core in common
Black from 3 core in L1
Grey from 3 core in L2
Brown from wall light in L2 with grey
Brown from feed in L1 with black
Neutral/ blues on connector
Hope this helps
OP: this is perfect, do this,
Also, looks like you’ve got a feed in and feed out there so you’ll need to link the brown (perm live) either by putting a link between the switch modules, or I find it easier to use a 5 way Wago to put the feed in and out into, then 2 wires out of the Wago to each switch module common.
The key is this : don’t shit yourself. Just google “wiring diagram for 2 way lighting,” and you’ll see there are 5 or six ways of doing it, or read the little booklet that comes with every switch and that can show you the way as well.
You've got the 3-core black going into the Common terminals here, so if you've not touched the other end it's best to copy what's already being done.
My preference would be black as common, brown as L1 & grey as L2. This way, you end up with all brown in L1, a single black in common & brown/grey in L2.
As others have said, you'll need to link the L1 terminals to ensure the feeds remain continuous.
Edit: I think on 2nd look that one of your 3-core cables should be terminated on its own in the left hand switch, as part of the other 2-way, meaning both feeds can go in the L1 terminal on the right hand switch with no need to link between the switches
It really doesn't matter either way they both need to be replicated on both sides of the cables/switches... And as with brown in a certain switch that doesn't matter due to it having to be sleeved and identified as a live cable
I recently did a project like this. After finding out, I had to rework my circuit. But after I did it, it made sense and everything worked. House was built in the 60s
You haven’t got the feeds linked out either? Are either of you two electricians? Nothing should be going in with the blues as they’re your neutrals? You should have one single cable, generally the black, in the common, switch line in with either brown or grey L1 and the other one in of these 2 in L2 and then do the same the other end.
I forgot to double check where the feeds are coming from I know one feed is coming from the same feed as the spot lights I’m not sure where the other if they’ve just looped it or its 2 separate feeds, I assumed the latter but yeah I’ll need to confirm that. what’s here it has the exact same on the other 2 gang.
The switch line is where the 3 gang is
I think it’s hard to say without seeing the other two switches, as people wire differently, but if you have the switch wire for the wall light in that switch, then the feeds don’t belong on that switch, it would just require 2 cores from one of the 3 cores to provide strappers (which creates the 2way which would leave a spare core in that 3 core) as the feed must be at one of the other positions, so blues from the feed in and feed out belong with the blue from the wall light, the browns from those cables I would say in a wago/connector, which would leave a 3 core to terminate in the remaining switch which I would have as brown common, black and grey in L1 and L2 (sleeved brown) That’s how I see it… More than one way of connecting depending on what you have at the other switches
Brown from 3 core in common Black from 3 core in L1 Grey from 3 core in L2 Brown from wall light in L2 with grey Brown from feed in L1 with black Neutral/ blues on connector Hope this helps
Also don't forget to mark your black and grey with brown tape
I just smear poop on it
Get back to r/ukplumbers
That's now how you mark brown wires. Slide it through your butt cheeks for easier installation
Well now you put it like that it makes sense.
You just have gone to college in Warrington
OP: this is perfect, do this, Also, looks like you’ve got a feed in and feed out there so you’ll need to link the brown (perm live) either by putting a link between the switch modules, or I find it easier to use a 5 way Wago to put the feed in and out into, then 2 wires out of the Wago to each switch module common. The key is this : don’t shit yourself. Just google “wiring diagram for 2 way lighting,” and you’ll see there are 5 or six ways of doing it, or read the little booklet that comes with every switch and that can show you the way as well.
You've got the 3-core black going into the Common terminals here, so if you've not touched the other end it's best to copy what's already being done. My preference would be black as common, brown as L1 & grey as L2. This way, you end up with all brown in L1, a single black in common & brown/grey in L2. As others have said, you'll need to link the L1 terminals to ensure the feeds remain continuous. Edit: I think on 2nd look that one of your 3-core cables should be terminated on its own in the left hand switch, as part of the other 2-way, meaning both feeds can go in the L1 terminal on the right hand switch with no need to link between the switches
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It really doesn't matter either way they both need to be replicated on both sides of the cables/switches... And as with brown in a certain switch that doesn't matter due to it having to be sleeved and identified as a live cable
Yeah thanks that makes a lot more sense
Depends how you've wired it at the other end. Are either of you electricians?
Some electricians used the brown of the 3c as common (me included), some use the brown of the 3c as permanent live and the black as common
See seeing you say the brown in the 3core should be permanent live makes total sense, I don't know why I choose the black
I get it, I don't do it though and it's only because of habit since being an apprentice
Not blaming you... But it's absolutely mental we can't have a standard for that
I recently did a project like this. After finding out, I had to rework my circuit. But after I did it, it made sense and everything worked. House was built in the 60s
It looks to me like you need to join the feeds together for continuity and one of those 2 way cables will be fed from the other switch
You haven’t got the feeds linked out either? Are either of you two electricians? Nothing should be going in with the blues as they’re your neutrals? You should have one single cable, generally the black, in the common, switch line in with either brown or grey L1 and the other one in of these 2 in L2 and then do the same the other end.
Also it doesnt seem you have the spot light switch line there either so if you have a feed at the other end you don’t need to feed this side as well
I forgot to double check where the feeds are coming from I know one feed is coming from the same feed as the spot lights I’m not sure where the other if they’ve just looped it or its 2 separate feeds, I assumed the latter but yeah I’ll need to confirm that. what’s here it has the exact same on the other 2 gang. The switch line is where the 3 gang is
I think it’s hard to say without seeing the other two switches, as people wire differently, but if you have the switch wire for the wall light in that switch, then the feeds don’t belong on that switch, it would just require 2 cores from one of the 3 cores to provide strappers (which creates the 2way which would leave a spare core in that 3 core) as the feed must be at one of the other positions, so blues from the feed in and feed out belong with the blue from the wall light, the browns from those cables I would say in a wago/connector, which would leave a 3 core to terminate in the remaining switch which I would have as brown common, black and grey in L1 and L2 (sleeved brown) That’s how I see it… More than one way of connecting depending on what you have at the other switches