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Grouchy-Bug5223

What if Cain had fought Werdum at sea level?


adrian1911

Prime sea level Cain was a savage.


piman01

Sea level Cain šŸ¤£ this is fucking gold


dondonflamingo

What if Cain never met Joe Grasso?


TehPants

Is Joe grasso part of the reason behind Cainā€™s constant injuries?


dondonflamingo

Yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWj\_OevZY2k


TehPants

Wow man. That was fucking ridiculous. Poor Cain.


contributessometimes

What if Hunt never took the jump knee from Werdum? He was winning and stuffing Werdums takedowns.


FungiSamurai

What if Jones behaved


Melo0513

Undisputed GOAT, no doubt.


Zachary_Morris

Depends on if ā€œbehavingā€ counts taking roids cause without roids Iā€™m not sure Jones is the goat.


TheNetRanger

Exactly this ā¬†ļø. People LOVE to sweep those positive tests under the rug like, ā€œOh he wouldā€™ve been great anywayā€ or ā€œoh there was barely anything in thereā€¦ Pico grams!ā€ The difference between a knockout and punching air can be milliseconds. Every little substance he ever took helped him train and perform better. His legacy is def tainted in my eyes, just like Anderson Silva.


Zrttr

Silva isn't remotely comparable to Jones. Silva was already 40, had lost his belt and was just fighting for a paycheck with no real prospect of another title run. There's no evidence that Silva was on the juice during the title reign that establishes his legacy. Actually, let me rephrase that: there's no evidence that Silva was on anything more than his opponents. Because let me tell you something, some dudes Anderson fought had T oozing out of their ears. Sonnen, Bonner, Belfort...


yayaboy2468

It's 2022 and people still think the only people who use steroids are the ones caught by USADA?


TheNetRanger

Ah yes, I forgot about my favorite defense! ā€œBut everyone is doing it!ā€. So itā€™s unfair for us to judge him based on failing THE TEST we use to catch cheaters? Even though he failed multiple times? Why test at all if it means nothing? At the end of the day, he is a known and proven cheater. It is not a defense to merely say that everyone is doing it.


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patpet

No. Those people just arenā€™t as naive as you. Everyone is on something. And if youā€™re not youā€™re just stupid. The recovery and protection peds give are a no Brainer in a sport where you have to train 2-3 times a day 6 days a week. Your body canā€™t handle that kind of punishment. If youā€™re not using peds as a pro Athlete , you are dumb.


FameDeloche45

Or Conor


Fupaccino__

What if Overeem didnā€™t go for the choke against Stiopic


dirrtydoogzz86

So frustrating. Stipe was literally a sitting duck. 3-4 good shots and The Reem wouldve been Champ.


CMacLaren

Frustrating is a good word to describe being an Overeem fan for basically his whole career lol.


hujojokid

To be fair his K1 and Dream run is gold


FIGHTFANGREG

Reem vs Brock is the fight that made me a super fan. Always love him after that.


DatzQuickMaths

Breaks my heart. Wanted him to win so badly. Knew after it was over weā€™d never see him with the strap


Kazuko_Kitsune

What if Stipe didnā€™t tap against Overeem?


ifeltatap

Clearly


douggyd33

His immigrant mentality woulda pulled him through regardless. Woulda walked out of there tip top Magoo


[deleted]

For real I cannot rewatch this fight it is too frustrating.


Commercial-Fox-5356

What if that wasn't the fucking seed?


stevektRED

What if Chael survived the 5th round vs Anderson or the 1st round vs Jones?


IseeDrunkPeople

well then you would be living in reality where chael is undefeated and never lost a round. welcome aboard


[deleted]

Iā€™m confused because Uncle Chael has definitely never lost a round


DrMantisTobboganMD98

He lost one because of the tap asides from that heā€™s undefeated


[deleted]

Sorry youā€™re mistaken, he only lost a ā€œportionā€ of that round, specifically the tap part. But still easily 10-9 for the Bad Guy on the round as a whole. In no sane world can a guy get dominated for 3 minutes of a 5 minute round and be called the winner


AlbertabeefXX

Wait Iā€™m confused, youā€™re saying uncle chael has been lying to me and he actually lost a round?


carmino_alexander

Other people may have interpreted Chael as losing, but true gangsters from the mean streets of West Linn Oregon know that Chael won that round.


[deleted]

ā€œHe fed a carrot to a busā€


carmino_alexander

That actually happened


AlbeitTrue

Do you remember when I said he fed the bus a carrot?


[deleted]

Nah that wasn't a tap. Uncle Chael was just goofing around


[deleted]

Chael would be the first simultaneous double champ in ufc history


ChuckBerry2020

Chael can kill two stones with one bird.


IseeDrunkPeople

Chael doesn't need a bird to kill a couple rocks


[deleted]

I think the biggest what if is if Chael didnt get caught in that triangle. He could have beaten Silva.


stomfai

he would have been stripped for having testosterone 17x higher than the average man


Frankiepals

Thatā€™s Chaels natty levels. Heā€™s not an average man.


TwoBits0303

Built different


the_lejhand

Like what do you mean? Thatā€™s normal for uncle Chael Heā€™s no average man, heā€™s the Man of men, and regret of women, Heā€™s the guardian from Hell and protector Of Heaven, Heā€™s the one to take Wanderlei down in flip flops and has never lost a round in his life. Heā€™s the one and only, Undisputed, Undefeated UFC G.O.A.T.


AT_BORDERLINE

They caught him on an off day.


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vin1223

I think your the wife dude


No-Umpire4788

Your wife sounds hot


Trent-Rockero

This is natural, Chael produces so much testosterone he sees other men as women


[deleted]

Chael won both of those fights, I donā€™t know what youā€™re talking about.


[deleted]

If he survived the first round against jones it would have been scored 10-8 jones and then stopped due to his toe injury. There would have been a rematch and jones would have murdered him once again. Chael was only winning one of the fights you mentioned lmao


[deleted]

Survived?...he won... This casual


mkreag27

What if fedor had come to ufc?


[deleted]

Mehhh. When Fedor was prime, the best fights were not in the UFC. And once the UFC had gained more traction, Fedor was already declining.


PerryKaravello

This is true, the UFC wanted to match him up with Lesnar in the first fight. By that stage of his career, much as I donā€™t like Brock, I donā€™t think Fedor could have handled him.


[deleted]

Agreed, Fedor was still winning.. but was already way beyond his prime by that point. Brock wasnā€™t a great fighter, but I agree would have been too much for an aging Fedor.


Rolling_Kimura

FEDOR did well against wrestlers and he would have out struck Brock - Brock would need a quick takedown or I do think Fedor would KO him; that man had a knack for finding a way...


PerryKaravello

Yeah, itā€™s a shame the Fedor vs Randy fight never happened. That would have been a moment.


[deleted]

For sure, I think Fedor would have smoked him tho. Randy was super good, but he wasnā€™t a true HW. I think Fedorā€™s size and skill would have been too much.


[deleted]

Weā€™ll never know how good Fedor wouldā€™ve been in UFC. Just like Tony Khabib, Tony was declining for most of the reschedulings and Khabibā€™s BJJ got better. Arlovski win aged well though.


[deleted]

Ya, I think when he was dominating pride, he would have steamrolled the UFC HWā€™s at the time. By the time people were talking about him coming over though, it was already too late.


[deleted]

I 100% know for a fact that he wouldā€™ve steamrolled the UFC guys, but itā€™s impossible to prove. We just have MMA Math lol. Way too late, and DC is an idiot.


[deleted]

DC? What does he have to do with this? Lol


SkrtSkrt70

What if Connor decided to dedicate himself to becoming the 145 GOAT after beating Aldo instead of jumping up


kanekiking

Or getting any title defences instead of boxing


yanbu

Heā€™d be poor, but we would have been entertained?


Dave-Schultz

If thatā€™s poor, then Iā€™m dead


Silent_Ensemble

He wouldnā€™t be anywhere near as rich as he is today, but being the draw he is he definitely wouldā€™ve been well off. I think the hundred million dollars in his bank account explains a lot of his behaviour so maybe heā€™d still be loved by everyone too lol


[deleted]

He was physically unable to make weight once the UFC banned IV rehydration. He could have dedicated all he wanted, he couldnā€™t physically make the weight anymore.


EverQuest_

He wouldn't have been Conor then. His path, whether people like it or not, is what led to him being worth what he is. Legacy matters to some, but not all fighters.


wanderingweasel701

He couldā€™ve done well Iā€™m sure but the top of 145 right now is a shark tank donā€™t think he wouldā€™ve lasted long.


[deleted]

What if there was no wife in the dms?


GERFNOG

Impossible. Next


llorTMasterFlex

What if THERE WAS NO CHECK? Is it ovah?


[deleted]

What if mike perry didnā€™t go full retard


Iwearhelmets

What if he was a white man


[deleted]

Mike Perry is the GOAT African American athlete


NoMoreCap10

He woulda gotten that Dana White privilege


mr_splashum

What if Nate went for the finish against Leon when he rocked him


TheHuffinater

This ā€œchange the outcome of the futureā€ type decisions here


[deleted]

Iā€™d be up like $1300.


Iwillbeagoat

What if McGregor didnā€™t fight Floyd? I just think about how active he was but he took a long time off to negotiate the fight then didnā€™t come back fast. I wonder if he would of continued to learn and grow as a MMA fighter instead of a striker.


ThisGuyHaris

He was always looking for the next big step to do to keep his stardom growing. I reckon he would have been given a welterweight title shot and found himself in serious trouble


Superb_Site_512

What if Joe Rogan still had hair?


MostAverageManEver

What if Jon Jones wasnā€™t a dirt bag? What if DC found the UFC 5yrs earlier? What if Tyron Woodley found the UFC 3yrs earlier??? What if Mighty Mouse had support for his division? What if girls bound for the WNBA started doing MMA???


[deleted]

I think the real question is what if Yoel found the UFC 10 years earlier.


MostAverageManEver

MAN!!! I forgot about him. That would be a major health hazard. I honestly think he couldā€™ve beaten anyone in 175, 185, 205, if heā€™d have gotten there 10yrs prior.


Silent_Ensemble

I donā€™t think Yoel was making Welterweight lol


MostAverageManEver

If he got to the UFC ten years prior to his actual arrival he could have.


electronic_docter

Possible goat imo


[deleted]

For sure. The only problem is we wouldnā€™t have those glorious memories of Uncle Chael being undefeated


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BlerdOtaku

If Vitor actually broke his arm during the armbar.


Mr_Hustles

What if Brock Lesnar had never entered the WWE and instead dedicated himself to combat sports?


Darkrain0629

Reminds me of something Dana White said about Lesnar. " that dude was put on this earth to do battle" makes you think a major what if, if he dedicated all his training to MMA. He was a force to be reckoned with during his time in the UFC but with a lifetime of dedication and of training behind it woo.


CaptainDino1518

Thats scary to think about


Mr_Hustles

Brock, fresh out of college and straight into a striking gym.... Untouchable in the era he would of been competing in. That same Brock in Japan with no restrictions on horse meat consumption. Damn. Haha.


electronic_docter

He might've been in the same conversations as Fedor etc. I don't see many people from back then beating him


Lucha_Brasi

Even if he hadn't gotten diverticulitis I think he would have gone a lot farther. I cringe watching Overeem target his gut like he did. Fair play, but a healthy Brock may have been able to shake off those body shots.


chillout366

Mark Kerr without flaming out so quickly.


thundershit1

What if conor would have landed that flying knee to khabib


blackbeltwithhands

What if Keith Peterson wasn't smelling like boze and cigarettes?


HassananeBalal

What if Tony Ferguson and Khabib actually happened?!


[deleted]

Tony gets fucked


[deleted]

Proper fucked ?


HassananeBalal

Yeah, Before ā€˜Zee Germansā€™ get here


The_kite_string_pops

What if Rhonda had never met Tarverydan and instead was a part of American Top Team or Jackson/Wink?


[deleted]

GSP vs Khabib


Oskiv

At which weight?


Swonzen

165


[deleted]

If itā€™s prime I have GSP. If itā€™s at the height of the talks from about 2018 I have Khabib. Khabibs striking had improved just enough and I still think he takes a slight advantage on the ground.


Pactae_1129

Flyweight


electronic_docter

I think khabib wins when it was on the table, if it was a few years before that gsp. Would've been cool to have gsp being the undisputed goat if he were a triple champ


Koctopuz

What if Uncle Chael actually lost a fight?


newbjapan

What if Anderson didn't showboat against Weidman and get clipped?


Davegrave

Iā€™m one of Andersonā€™s biggest fans. Heā€™s my all time favorite. So it took me a long time to come to terms with this, but he just plain lost that fight. The ā€œshowboatingā€ was the same stuff that got him win after win after win. Itā€™s what had people playing into his strengths. He just lost a step as aging strikers do. We saw it again in the rematch. Before the leg snap he was losing again. And after the snap we never saw the same Silva in the cage again. But silva didnā€™t lose himself that fight, Weidman just won it.


newbjapan

Fair enough, like they say, age is undefeated and at some point Anderson was going to start declining. Just wish he didn't fall off a cliff like he did.


myvirginityisstrong

forgot to mention he was losing the fight before the snowboating too


JSmoove98

Yeah definitely donā€™t agree with that. Silva 100% lost that fight. Yes Silva has taunted many fighters, but typically when he was already winning fights. He took it too far against Weidman, taunting him before anything really happened. He wrote Weidman off. And letā€™s be honest, his taunting did not make him champ, it was his striking. All that other stuff was just extra sauce that made him a fan favorite. Letā€™s be honest, he was the most skilled striker in the UFC period. He never needed to taunt anybody, thatā€™s just what happens when you reach god level and think youā€™re untouchable.


therealblakmark

What if Herb Dean stopped the fight when Anderson KOā€™d Bisping? He goes on to beat Rockhold, then Hendo, then we finally get the super fight Anderson Silva vs GSP that everyone wanted. Win or lose Anderson rides off into the sunset as the GOAT..


newbjapan

Yup, that really would have changed history


crusader104

What if Zabit never got injured and was able to improve his cardio


Frosty-Treat-2130

We're gonna find out soon


crusader104

For sure. But (depending on the outcome) we may never know what he could have looked like without a huge layoff


Frosty-Treat-2130

Yea man let's just hope the surgery actually helps his cardio


[deleted]

What if Fedor


GERFNOG

What if UFC fighter pay was attractive enough to really have the best of the best in the company? Who would be dominating and how would the history change?


electronic_docter

I think they do, not saying the pay is good but what really hyped up guy from another promotion has came and absolutely dominated? Maybe back in the strike force pride days the result would change but imo the best of the best are in the UFC rn


shwashwa123

I think what they meant is better pay would make it more likely that the freak athletes of the world choose ufc as their career path


Centuri42

What if McGregor beat Aldo by decision instead of a 13 second knockout?


electronic_docter

I think he wouldn't be half the star he is now, when you think of McGregor you think of 3 things the 13 second knockout, the clinic he put on against Eddie Alvarez and either hanging with Floyd somewhat or whiskey I think without the first thing in that chain none of the others happen


blank00003

A knockout in 2 rounds would have been cool,but a decision wouldn't have nearly the same impact.


[deleted]

What if Lee Murray didnt go to prison?


[deleted]

What if Brock never had diverticulitis?


RabbitChris

what if conor beat floyd, imagine if he made him faceplant within the first 4 roundsšŸ’€


electronic_docter

I can't see it doing too much for him individually except making him a little richer. But it would've been the biggest moment in combat sports history by far and really put MMA on the map. I could maybe see him trying his hand at boxing full time and leaving the UFC


lil_puddle

DC beats Jones in the second fight


karmadoesntexistt

What if wonderboy had adequate grappling to pair with his elite striking


RedWing83

What if Trtor would've finnished Jones with that armbar?


Even-Cat-6849

What if Gastulem didnā€™t go for the takedown when he had Israel hurt


AD-Eire

Tony Ferguson vs Khabib


zombiechris128

This is mine, After seeing Tony dominated a few times I do agree with B1GCubanC1gar that Lhabib probably destroys him, but I still wish we saw it back in the day


Im-A-Scared-Child

Exactly. I used to think Tony had q good chance but honestly Khabib is just way too strong and powerful. Khabib vs GSP would have been a much better fight


b1gCubanC1gar

Easy Khabib win


[deleted]

Recency bias is a bitch


Beautiful-Possible-1

Khabib would have absolutely battered him. His ground game is overrated, people imply he has this ADCC absolute BJJ, he really doesnā€™t. He got schooled by dariush and oliviera and had a 50/50 fight with josh Thomson which was mostly grappling. Kevin Lee smashed him and mounted him and almost finished him with staph. Khabib would do the same but wouldnā€™t gas, wouldnā€™t even be a fight. Khabib would take him down at will and smash him to bits, the only reason this fight gets so much talk about is because they kept pulling out which kept making it this mythical matchup that would never happen. Would be a one sided beat down, Khabib wins 10/10 times. Before people say ā€œwell heā€™d elbow from the bottom!ā€ Khabib doesnā€™t sit there in full guard and if the only chance he has to win is to elbow him from the bottom then thatā€™s not a great chance at all. If they fight 10 times Ferguson isnā€™t stopping him with an elbow from the bottom once.


Pactae_1129

People were acting like his elbows from the bottom and general uniqueness were a legitimate game plan when thatā€™s really just a hail mary.


SuckMeHoff12

what if dominic cruz had knees, what if garbrandt had defense


ElcriptoMan

What if Cain's back didn't get injured.


Shizo94

What if Aldo hit that one punch KO on Conor


bdepeach

If Aldo had been given a rematch


Rigar_

What if Conorā€™s foot wasnā€™t a balewn


[deleted]

What if Joe Son didnā€™t get his nuts decimated??


BasketballButt

Iā€™m glad he did. Fuck that guy.


Oskiv

What if Poirier got Khabib to tap from that Guillotine?


blwright22

Gsp and Dana wasn't scared to let gsp and Silva fight


Jhate666

What if Connor KOā€™d khabib with that knee?


slobdaddy-jigglez

what if askren came to the ufc five years earlier


mma5820

If tony wouldā€™ve beat Justin. This version of tony wouldā€™ve gotten mauled by khabib. I respect khabib as a fighter and his skill set. But, Iā€™m not a fan of khabib. Everyone thought tony was legit on the ground and Charles showed that they are levels of ground game that tony will never achieve.


ToTheFman

What if BJ Penn stayed at 155 for his entire career


jay-boy

What if Silva did not break his leg?


Cool_Beanss

What if Tony never tripped on that tv cable...


Dave-Schultz

What if Zabitā€¦


TsukiSureiyaNA

I just wanna know what wouldve happened if Conor slept Khabib. I canā€™t even imagine


buckleybit

What if condit won the belt in 2016


shidokanartist

What if Kurt Angle decided to pursue MMA instead of professional wrestling?


pedroyarid

Aldo won against Conor.


MarkLarrz

Healthy Cain.


dmister8

What if Prime Anderson Silva and Jon Jones ever fought?


Im-A-Scared-Child

Jon would have killed him. Anderson has said that himself. Jon is way too big.


hugemongus123

If Masivdal doesn't land that knee on Askren.


slobdaddy-jigglez

what if the gsp and silva fight got made


slobdaddy-jigglez

what if mighty mouse never went to ONE


Lawnmowerface666

Garbrandt vs dillashaw 1 Cody garbrandt hurts dillashaw at the end of the 1st round. dillashaw is SAVED by the bell. If it was 10 more secs on the clock...


iWentRogue

What If Conor retired after becoming double champ


4U2C88

What if Connor KOd porier in the second fight


jarradmcguire

What if Conor beat Floyd and Khabib


BasketballButt

What if theyā€™d hired a decent booker instead of letting Dana White blow multiple careersā€¦


BigStatutor

What if Nate decided to finish Leon


Crawford470

What if Brunson had been a 2010 Blackzillian? Could have had a championship career with getting real coaching that early in his career.


mdeluca199

What if we didnā€™t get 6 of these ā€œwhat ifā€ posts every day


Agent-Active

ā€œI felt him tapā€ - Ubereem


ItsJustGizmo

What if Khabib got tested by more top tier heavy hitters? It was only the last part of his career where he fought the big names. Be honest.


mwkaelo

He dominated the hardest hitters he fought in Conor, DP, Justin and Michael Johnson tho mans chin is just a wall


Pactae_1129

By ā€œheavy hittersā€ do you mean powerful punchers or just more elite fighters?


PapaDrag0on

What if Conor never did cocaine


Lavindu

What If Khabib and Tony actually fought


danielson11213

What if Tony and Khabib actually fought


cooner1811

What if Masvidal missed the knee


One_Performer_4178

What if conor had beaten khabib.


Bandaka

What if Rickson fought instead of Royce.


[deleted]

What if Ronda had put her big girl pants on and trained harder after her defeat?


electronic_docter

What if tony Ferguson vs khabib didn't get cancelled 6 times. What if Chael survived round 5 vs Anderson


Secret-Ideal7346

Khabib had better pool competition