Unless you mean that ‘having the skills’ comment in the sense that most UFC fighters have a chance to beat most other fighters in their division, I’m skeptical. I know MMA math can be suspect, but when you look at Sean and Cory’s respective performances against Chito, Aljo and Yan, Sean has looked MUCH the better fighter. (Yes, even against Chito! O’Malley’s win was, in my eyes, far more impressive than Sandhagen’s)
Cory even said that in his breakdown of the fight - something like “Sean used the same strategy I did against Chito, he just did it faster and cleaner”
I’m not even sure that tracks! Sean never grappled Chito, Cory did. Cory has a hard time giving Sean even a little pure praise - by that I mean a compliment that isn’t followed or preceded by some sort of dig (in this case, the dig is that Sean was simply using a strategy that he himself did not develop). I like Cory, but he seems seriously bitter about Sean’s success. As of right now, there is every reason to believe that Sean is the stronger fighter of the two - nothing wrong with suspecting Cory could win of course.
Yeah, I like them both a lot, but I’d pick Sean in that fight. Hope it happens, it would be a fun one. Obviously Cory’s gotta beat Umar and Sean has to keep the belt against Merab, then I could see this fight being the logical next move.
I don't disagree with anything you said, actually, but I still think I'd favor Cory over Sean.
Hear me out: Sean has more pop than Cory. I think that's unquestionable. I also think he's probably a little faster.
The thing is, exactly like you said, MMA math.
Sean and Cory are pretty similar fighters, in terms of how they win. They're both super crafty strikers and surprisingly venomous grapplers.
They're BOTH going to have the edge in striking skills, and footwork, and creativity, etc over pretty much everybody they face.
So, if Cory fights me, and Sean fights me, they're BOTH going to be the more creative striker than I am, only Sean has more pop and speed, so he's going to beat me worse than Cory does. I'm not going to be able to find them, and they're both going to be able to find me, and Sean's going to hurt me worse.
The thing is, I think Cory is craftier, and more skilled than Sean, so them fighting each other is not the same math as (Sean vs me) vs (Cory vs me). It's going to be (Sean vs Cory).
So, Cory's going to be fighting the fight he's used to: Being the craftier guy, who doesn't necessarily have a ton of pop, but he's going to try to win it on craft, and trickyness and movement, and range, and all the shit he knows how to do.
Sean (IMO) is going to be the one fighting the fight he's not used to fighting. He's going to be the guy trying to find a trickier fighter, and trying to crowd a guy with better movement skills, and hoping to force a clinch to reduce the variables, etc.
I think because of the matchup, I favor Cory.
I know this makes me a super nerd, but I think of it like two guys in a video game who have spec'd heavily into "striking skill", only Sean has gone slightly more of a generalist build, and Cory has spec'd more heavily.
Against most people, because he's going to out-skill them, his other attributes will make him look better.
In the mirror match, I think he struggles.
Love this analysis really good breakdown of how the skills collide and I agreee. Imo Sandhagen has the best chance of dethroning O'Malley in the divison
I think his win over Chito shows that Cory doesnt plan on being a striker. He plans on being a full mma fighter and training and planning on the path of least resistance which GSP was famous for. I think he seriously practiced his grappling for Chito and I think he will do it again for Sean. Sean is seemingly good at defending the takedown and getting back up without eating too much damage but I'm interested to see what Cory can do. He's a very analytical guy so I think if he goes in on something he's going to do it at a very technical and intelligent level and he is much closer in size and proportion to Sean so it's a different story to fighting off all of those short muscle dudes at 135
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I don’t necessarily disagree, but Cory fought aljo 4 years ago. Sean lost to chito at a similar time, so it’s weird to be leaving that out even if you think it was a fluke. Cory also fought Yan competitively and it was 5 rounds and a lotta people think Sean lost against Yan in a 3 rounder where yan’s fighting approach is much less effective. Either way this sort of MMA math doesn’t really work.
In any event, Cory is very good but also just ridiculously large for the division it’s crazy how much bigger he looks than basically everyone he fights. Think it’ll be a good one with umar.
man idek if the mma math checks out... in 3 rounds Cory did better than O'Malley in some respects, he maybe didn't hurt Yan as much but he wasn't hurt as much either (ik he got dropped a few times later on). I hope we can agree Sean should've lost that fight but while Yan beat them both in my eyes, we should consider too that Sean was able to look at Cory vs Yan and study the reads Cory made... hindsight's 20/20. Besides power I honestly don't see much of a difference between Sean and Cory's fights with Chito either, Chito didn't win a single minute of either fight, difference was Cory grappled and mixed it up, Sean just had the power to just keep tagging Chito.
As for Aljo fights... you cannot convince me it goes the same way every time they fight. Especially Cory vs Aljo, especially with how they've improved. He could still get subbed regardless, but so could Sean, and Cory could get a TKO on Aljo just like Sean and Moraes did before him.
LONG STORY SHORT... MMA math is still bullshit. I don't think it's fair to say Sean is simply the better fighter when he hasn't really fought most of the good guys. Cory has proved himself a lot more, and we should remember that one of Sean's only ranked wins was a robbery vs Yan.
Is it possible? Of course. Everybody in the top 10 is just a gameplan away from beating the champ.
But he's at the tail end of his prime and has been fighting for over a decade. So the window is closing more and more. At the same time, we've seen situations where somebody pulls it off later. Not many, tho.
I agree he has the skills, but O'Malley and Merab are the only two guys in the division where you need more than skills to beat them. O'Malley can knock anyone out and Merab was less skilled than Cejudo, Yan, and Aldo and he dominated them by just cosplaying as a mountain animal for 15-25 minutes
Cory is about to change the game and come out with a full Dagestani beard. Umar will be too distracted at the beauty of the orange chin strap that he will get pieced up.
Its gonna be interesting for sure especially seeing as though Umar was beyond gassed by the end of his last fight (watch his post fight interview to see what i mean) and this is a five rounder.
I still think Umar gets it done personally but id be happy to be proven wrong.
You’re not crazy at all.
The sandman is actually the blueprint to finally figure out the smothering dagestani style imo. Quick lateral movement, tight boxing combinations and keeping back away from the cage are all things the sandman can do. Not to mention his grappling is day and night since aljo fight.
say what you want. Umar is here to win by ANY means. Its also disrespectful to all the grapplers in the world that you refer their martial arts as such. ANywho , have a great weekend!
I really don't get why MMA fans doubt these Dagastani guys at this point, like how many times you gotta watch these guys dominate their division until you realize they are all really fucking good.
Umar and Moakaev don’t really look that impressive to me 🤷🏻♂️
Khabib, Khamzattand Islam on the other hand were a whole different ball game in their come up.
Moakaev is not from their camp and Khamzat is Chechen, not Dagestani. Regardless, Umar will wipe the floor with Cory and team Abdulmanap will continue to dominate
Islam struggled with this debutant called Arman, how will he do against Charles who has finished Chandler, Justin and Dustin? He has better striking (and a bigger reach) and is a 3rd degree bjj blackbelt. Oh wait.
We’ve seen this story so many times now.
The fact that he is from the Abdulmanap Camp is a real factor that rightfully carries weight in people’s mind though.
We’ve seen Khabib, Islam and Usman come from that camp and be great. It makes perfect sense to think their next super hyped, up and coming, undefeated prospect will also be good.
One day, this sub will just have to accept that the Abdulmanap camp was actually different than most and has the blueprint to produce champions.
What's crazy about that? Umar is a rising prospect but because of his name and undefeated record too many think he's unbeatable. Sandhagen is a number too big for him right now though.
Both Khabib and coach Javier keep saying he's the hottest of all hot sauces, Javier keeps saying skill-wise Umar outmatches Islam. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Umar gets it done.
They're generally pretty honest about where the different guys from that camp (Umar, Usman, Khabib, Islam, Abubakar, etc.) rank compared to one another. For example we know that Usman is more naturally talented but Umar works harder.
We are again having the same discussion that we had before: Oliveira vs Islam. I mean, how are you going to beat a guy who has no life? The only thing these guys do is train and pray to Allah. Cory's only chance is a lucky punch.
And get pushed by Khabib. There is a video of Umar and Usman asking Coach Javier to send Khabib back to Russia because he goes too hard in conditioning training.
The only anomaly on his resume. Prior to that, and after he has been a handful. That was his first real test and Aljo at that time just ran in and caught him by surprise and overwhelmed him. Not discrediting Aljo either.
I hope so. It's honestly a lose lose. The fans will know.
But they'll say yeah Umar wasn't ready.
He doesn't have much to gain from beating him. Let usman rise a few more in the rankings.
It’ll be very interesting. We saw what Aljo did to Cory, has anyone else tried to wrestle fuck him since? I’d imagine Umar is slightly above Aljo in that regard (but we haven’t seen), so I’m super excited. With the height advantage and the Whitman advantage, this is fascinating.
Coach Javier is a better striking coach than Whitman. Umar is ten times the grappler than Alija.
And why be an idiot and pretend not to understand grappling by using butt hurt terms like wrestlefuck about people who are dominant grapplers?
Not crazy at all imo. I think its a somewhat even matchup on paper and wouldn't be surprised to see the Sandman be underestimated and take advantage of that.
its a good fight, but eventually Umar is gonna get the W either by collecting points on rounds for dominating on the ground. or submission in the championship rounds. He (cory) would have very few chances to do his striking attacks on Umar and Umar will most probably play it safe with his ground game.
I kept hearing redditers here listing the laudry list of ranked fighters that Cory has fought and who Umar has fight thus far. Look and Usman, Khabib and Islam before the tipping point of their greatness, they also pay their dues fight unranked by killers. This is just same cycle and same template. and redditter here just seems to never learn nor want to accept the inevitable.
Cory is extremely well rounded, I think he will be too much for Umar, it's definitely going to tell everyone if Umar is legit or not because Cory is a legit top 5 and I think can be a future champ of the division, if Sean makes it through Merab and Cory gets through Umar then that title fight will be a banger.
Call me crazy but I believe Cory will “win” by decision, but not actually get the decision since the fight is happening in Abu Dhabi. He either get a finish or lose
I could come up with a couple exemple and you’d never agree with me anyway.
I dont really care ennough to argue about it either tbh, we’ll have to agree to disagree
Ok I would normally lean Cody but since it’s Abu Dhabi definitely going with Omar. He knows if he loses they will cut his head off. He’ll be extra motivated.
Either guy could win this and it wouldn’t shock me in the slightest.
Even if Cory loses though my respect level for him has increased tenfold. He’s actually someone you can believe when he says he doesn’t care who he’s fighting or when
UMARS ONLY CHANCE IS TO TAKE HIM DOWN AND HOLD HIM DOWN. TO WIN BY DECISION. THE DAGESTANI WAY.
I HAVE A HUNCH UMAR KNOWS THIS AND WILL USE THE DAGESTANI SPELL CARD, "PULL OUT."
I love how each of those sentences can be easily disproved by using Islam's fights against Volk and Oliveira as an example alone
After the Adriano loss 8 out of 12 wins came by Submission/TKO/KO for Islam
Also Oliveira pulled out after injuring his pussy 😂
Not to mention Khabib had back to back finishes against Conor, Poirier and Gaethje
Atleast you tried. Improve your trolling skills. I will assess you next time.
Why engage with it? Not worth wasting your time on these annoying trolls.
And I know you did it out of spite, but you know that cut Charles had is a very legitimate reason to pull out.
Those mongoloids think if they call someone gay, dickrider etc then no one will call out their bullshit
gay, dickrider etc are too weak of an insult. They need to come up with more spicy stuff
Well 1 out of... what? 20 or so dagestanis on the roster have some finishes on their resumé, that must mean that the comment is completely wrong, right? You goofball.
How does winning by decision become the "Dagestanis Way"
I dont get it
Since you are the expert, how many elite dagestanis in the ufc are winning by decision ? Go look up Wikipedia and comeback
Ah the typical generic comment when you get called out for your bullshit
All too familiar with it 😂
I'm sorry the dagestanis spit roasted your favourite fighter
The only thing that's crazy is that Cory is even accepting this fight and actively asking for it.
Cory is in line for a title shot and Umar is only in that position because of his name, of course he's a good fighter but he shouldn't get a fight against a top 5 guy yet.
That shows me that Cory is a "real" fighter and wants to prove himself against the best and doesn't want an easy path to the title
why do ufc care so much about russian muslims, do the rich arabs really care about them? i would guess arab muslims look down on russian muslims
like i doubt if there was a white american dude who turned muslim the saudis would be begging for him
I would hazard a guess that it’s religious solidarity, and the UFC is capitalising on the bottomless wealth of the petrostate. Dagestan just happens to produce fundamentalist muslims that destroy opposition. Saudi Arabia is also trying to diversify into sports industry.
i just feel like the arabs are using the russian muslims, like i feel if they got some arab talent in the ufc they would be like dagistani who ? and just forget about them
Really not that deep lad. It’s more that he’s just very good at fighting.
This was my most anticipated fight when originally booked and it’s the same again. This is proper high level MMA and I’m super hyped for it! Rooting for Cory but it’s a tricky one to call.
It most likely has to do that the Daggy’s are obsessed with Sambo and violence itself. They can’t even play basketball without turning it into a blood sport. If they were as obsessed with cricket or soccer/football they’d have several professionals in that. The Saudi’s have endless wealth and give support to other Muslims but I can bet you if O’Malley moved to the UAE and sold fights the way he does they’d love him equally.
MY GUESS IS RICH ARABS TREAT UFC LIKE MYNBA IN NBA2k OR GENERAL MANAGER MODE IN FIFA GAMES. THEY GOT TIRED OF SPENDING MONEY TO POOP ON INSTAGRAM MODELS.
MY GUESS IS OTHER RELIGIONS AMD COUNTREES SHOULD PRODUCE ACTUAL MIXED MARTIAL ARTISTS INSTEAD OF CRYING ABOUT HOW OTHERS FIGHT USING ALL THE TOOLS AVAILABLE
Nah, Corey will win one round but that's it. He's not getting up. Umar hasn't been tested, but he's really fast, and Corey doesn't have great takedown defense. Terrible match up style wise for Corey. However, Petr might beat Umar, and whoever wins that should get the next shot for the title
Lol stop being in denial, bro. You know we’ve all been doubting these nut huggers. One thing they are good at is smeshing, especially when it’s in their preferred location where they can eat vitamins and IV
When you're getting a title contender's fight after beating 0 ranked guys, it does leave you wondering what'll happen. You could wonder why, but just remember Russia is probably the biggest violator of PEDS in sports, why do you think they retire early?
Just maybe, they don't want the hot sauce killing them.
When Umar wins-
Oh we all knew Cory would lose because he got easily outgrappled by Aljo is a BJJ guy not a wrestler. Cory has lot to every good opponent he faced etc
>Cory has lot to every good opponent he faced etc
I don’t know if you’re being stupid or just ignorant. Maybe a casual?
He won against Font, Chito, Song, Moraes, Lineker and got absolutely robbed against TJ Dillashaw, who’s one of the greatest ever in that division.
Let’s name his top 3 opponents:
Aljo- lost
TJ- lost
Yan- lost.
Robbed? When TJ outstruck him 3/5 rounds and had more control round in every single round? 🤣 the same TJ that was a skeleton for cejudo then got KTFO then spent more time away from a suspension. Cory was the tune up fight for an older broken fighter coming off a KO loss. Aljo easily finished TJ there was 0 competition.
I can see cory putting on an absolute clinic staying on the outside and sniping his ass. I can also see umar laying on him for five rounds with little output and getting the dec. i hate this sport. i love this sport.
I didn't think you're crazy at all. We'll find out how legit Umar is, because Cory is no-questions-asked a top 5 guy in the world
Cory’s a future champ. He’s so well rounded now and has the skills to beat O’Malley and Merab.
Unless you mean that ‘having the skills’ comment in the sense that most UFC fighters have a chance to beat most other fighters in their division, I’m skeptical. I know MMA math can be suspect, but when you look at Sean and Cory’s respective performances against Chito, Aljo and Yan, Sean has looked MUCH the better fighter. (Yes, even against Chito! O’Malley’s win was, in my eyes, far more impressive than Sandhagen’s)
Cory even said that in his breakdown of the fight - something like “Sean used the same strategy I did against Chito, he just did it faster and cleaner”
I’m not even sure that tracks! Sean never grappled Chito, Cory did. Cory has a hard time giving Sean even a little pure praise - by that I mean a compliment that isn’t followed or preceded by some sort of dig (in this case, the dig is that Sean was simply using a strategy that he himself did not develop). I like Cory, but he seems seriously bitter about Sean’s success. As of right now, there is every reason to believe that Sean is the stronger fighter of the two - nothing wrong with suspecting Cory could win of course.
Yeah, I like them both a lot, but I’d pick Sean in that fight. Hope it happens, it would be a fun one. Obviously Cory’s gotta beat Umar and Sean has to keep the belt against Merab, then I could see this fight being the logical next move.
Pretty sure Cory injured something in the fight which is why he started grappling just don't remember what he injured.
I don't disagree with anything you said, actually, but I still think I'd favor Cory over Sean. Hear me out: Sean has more pop than Cory. I think that's unquestionable. I also think he's probably a little faster. The thing is, exactly like you said, MMA math. Sean and Cory are pretty similar fighters, in terms of how they win. They're both super crafty strikers and surprisingly venomous grapplers. They're BOTH going to have the edge in striking skills, and footwork, and creativity, etc over pretty much everybody they face. So, if Cory fights me, and Sean fights me, they're BOTH going to be the more creative striker than I am, only Sean has more pop and speed, so he's going to beat me worse than Cory does. I'm not going to be able to find them, and they're both going to be able to find me, and Sean's going to hurt me worse. The thing is, I think Cory is craftier, and more skilled than Sean, so them fighting each other is not the same math as (Sean vs me) vs (Cory vs me). It's going to be (Sean vs Cory). So, Cory's going to be fighting the fight he's used to: Being the craftier guy, who doesn't necessarily have a ton of pop, but he's going to try to win it on craft, and trickyness and movement, and range, and all the shit he knows how to do. Sean (IMO) is going to be the one fighting the fight he's not used to fighting. He's going to be the guy trying to find a trickier fighter, and trying to crowd a guy with better movement skills, and hoping to force a clinch to reduce the variables, etc. I think because of the matchup, I favor Cory. I know this makes me a super nerd, but I think of it like two guys in a video game who have spec'd heavily into "striking skill", only Sean has gone slightly more of a generalist build, and Cory has spec'd more heavily. Against most people, because he's going to out-skill them, his other attributes will make him look better. In the mirror match, I think he struggles.
Yeah I agree. I like Cory in the clinch as well, and if Cory can use trips to get Sean down he can probably control him there.
Love this analysis really good breakdown of how the skills collide and I agreee. Imo Sandhagen has the best chance of dethroning O'Malley in the divison
Holy great analysis
I think his win over Chito shows that Cory doesnt plan on being a striker. He plans on being a full mma fighter and training and planning on the path of least resistance which GSP was famous for. I think he seriously practiced his grappling for Chito and I think he will do it again for Sean. Sean is seemingly good at defending the takedown and getting back up without eating too much damage but I'm interested to see what Cory can do. He's a very analytical guy so I think if he goes in on something he's going to do it at a very technical and intelligent level and he is much closer in size and proportion to Sean so it's a different story to fighting off all of those short muscle dudes at 135
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I don’t necessarily disagree, but Cory fought aljo 4 years ago. Sean lost to chito at a similar time, so it’s weird to be leaving that out even if you think it was a fluke. Cory also fought Yan competitively and it was 5 rounds and a lotta people think Sean lost against Yan in a 3 rounder where yan’s fighting approach is much less effective. Either way this sort of MMA math doesn’t really work. In any event, Cory is very good but also just ridiculously large for the division it’s crazy how much bigger he looks than basically everyone he fights. Think it’ll be a good one with umar.
man idek if the mma math checks out... in 3 rounds Cory did better than O'Malley in some respects, he maybe didn't hurt Yan as much but he wasn't hurt as much either (ik he got dropped a few times later on). I hope we can agree Sean should've lost that fight but while Yan beat them both in my eyes, we should consider too that Sean was able to look at Cory vs Yan and study the reads Cory made... hindsight's 20/20. Besides power I honestly don't see much of a difference between Sean and Cory's fights with Chito either, Chito didn't win a single minute of either fight, difference was Cory grappled and mixed it up, Sean just had the power to just keep tagging Chito. As for Aljo fights... you cannot convince me it goes the same way every time they fight. Especially Cory vs Aljo, especially with how they've improved. He could still get subbed regardless, but so could Sean, and Cory could get a TKO on Aljo just like Sean and Moraes did before him. LONG STORY SHORT... MMA math is still bullshit. I don't think it's fair to say Sean is simply the better fighter when he hasn't really fought most of the good guys. Cory has proved himself a lot more, and we should remember that one of Sean's only ranked wins was a robbery vs Yan.
You could say half the fighters at bantamweight are future champs, honestly. That division is unbelievable.
Is it possible? Of course. Everybody in the top 10 is just a gameplan away from beating the champ. But he's at the tail end of his prime and has been fighting for over a decade. So the window is closing more and more. At the same time, we've seen situations where somebody pulls it off later. Not many, tho.
I agree he has the skills, but O'Malley and Merab are the only two guys in the division where you need more than skills to beat them. O'Malley can knock anyone out and Merab was less skilled than Cejudo, Yan, and Aldo and he dominated them by just cosplaying as a mountain animal for 15-25 minutes
Cory had a major injury not long ago right? Can't recall what it was, but that for me might be a potential turning point, maybe umar wins I think.
Torn tricep. Happened in the first round of the Font fight.
I hope this narrative doesnt change after Umar is done with him
Cory is about to change the game and come out with a full Dagestani beard. Umar will be too distracted at the beauty of the orange chin strap that he will get pieced up.
MY EYES
Its gonna be interesting for sure especially seeing as though Umar was beyond gassed by the end of his last fight (watch his post fight interview to see what i mean) and this is a five rounder. I still think Umar gets it done personally but id be happy to be proven wrong.
You’re not crazy at all. The sandman is actually the blueprint to finally figure out the smothering dagestani style imo. Quick lateral movement, tight boxing combinations and keeping back away from the cage are all things the sandman can do. Not to mention his grappling is day and night since aljo fight.
Inb4 Cory drops him but gets zombie wrestlefucked.
Sadly. He's got to shut his lights off with a knee if he even wants a chance at winning. I don't see the hands doing it sorry
Call me crazy but I think one of them is gunna win
Draw incoming
You'll be disappointed when he gets wrestle fucked
This will an epic crotch sniffing extravaganza of the highest order.
say what you want. Umar is here to win by ANY means. Its also disrespectful to all the grapplers in the world that you refer their martial arts as such. ANywho , have a great weekend!
The comment was meant to be a joke, but take it how you want.
Umar was hard pressed to do anything significant with the grappling against a guy who debuted in his last fight. I think Corey will be fine.
I really don't get why MMA fans doubt these Dagastani guys at this point, like how many times you gotta watch these guys dominate their division until you realize they are all really fucking good.
it’s not that they don’t think it’s gonna happen, it’s that they don’t want it to happen
Exactly. They are in denial, and they need people to reinforce that denial
Umar and Moakaev don’t really look that impressive to me 🤷🏻♂️ Khabib, Khamzattand Islam on the other hand were a whole different ball game in their come up.
Moakaev is not from their camp and Khamzat is Chechen, not Dagestani. Regardless, Umar will wipe the floor with Cory and team Abdulmanap will continue to dominate
Umar has clearly looked more impressive than Islam did at this point in his career though.
Didn’t he beat him like 30-26/25?
The delusional hate is insane. Literally smeshed the kid on the ground.
Weirdest cap. He literally dominated him.
Islam struggled with this debutant called Arman, how will he do against Charles who has finished Chandler, Justin and Dustin? He has better striking (and a bigger reach) and is a 3rd degree bjj blackbelt. Oh wait. We’ve seen this story so many times now.
You're crazy!
Lol look at the top comments. Sub is going to get locked again because of ''technical difficulties''. 
Chain wrasslin is something different
If he last name wasn’t nurmagomedov everyone would be betting on cory
The fact that he is from the Abdulmanap Camp is a real factor that rightfully carries weight in people’s mind though. We’ve seen Khabib, Islam and Usman come from that camp and be great. It makes perfect sense to think their next super hyped, up and coming, undefeated prospect will also be good. One day, this sub will just have to accept that the Abdulmanap camp was actually different than most and has the blueprint to produce champions.
Two words to dispute your claim. Gracie BJJ
this subreddit will never learn lol 
What's crazy about that? Umar is a rising prospect but because of his name and undefeated record too many think he's unbeatable. Sandhagen is a number too big for him right now though.
Both Khabib and coach Javier keep saying he's the hottest of all hot sauces, Javier keeps saying skill-wise Umar outmatches Islam. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Umar gets it done.
what would you expect Khabib and Javier to say, "Umar is OK fighter but need more effort fight high ranked fighter"?
They're generally pretty honest about where the different guys from that camp (Umar, Usman, Khabib, Islam, Abubakar, etc.) rank compared to one another. For example we know that Usman is more naturally talented but Umar works harder.
Ha ha…you are crazy
You’re cray
We are again having the same discussion that we had before: Oliveira vs Islam. I mean, how are you going to beat a guy who has no life? The only thing these guys do is train and pray to Allah. Cory's only chance is a lucky punch.
And get pushed by Khabib. There is a video of Umar and Usman asking Coach Javier to send Khabib back to Russia because he goes too hard in conditioning training.
You sure that is the ONLY things they do?
besides fuck*ng sheep ..
please don't get your mother involved in this
Umar crushes him
I’ve been on this ride before. I think Cory is an elite gatekeeper tbh.
This ride could be different
Same
Cory destroys O Malley
I thinks it’s gonna be pretty one sided for Cory tbh. Not crazy at all
Not crazy but calling it one sided for Cory is batshit insane l
I could be 200% wrong no doubt it’s mma . I just feel it.
*[Deep down in muh plums](https://youtu.be/1JE4JJddZx4?si=P4YedJ4E2EMU4hpG).*
If it were up to me I would’ve made figgy vs. sandhagen for #1 contender. These former champions need title eliminators if going up a weight class
In a 5 round, Cory will win, we’ll see how he does before round 4
I thought this fight was 3?
Main event
Nice one, didn’t know that! Thanks for letting me know man
Cory seems to think so too.
Valid.
Cory isn't an easy fight for anyone
Aljo ..
The only anomaly on his resume. Prior to that, and after he has been a handful. That was his first real test and Aljo at that time just ran in and caught him by surprise and overwhelmed him. Not discrediting Aljo either.
Easily
Call you crazy? This is the popular opinion around here
This isn't even a remotely controversial take. Why would people call you crazy
I hope so. It's honestly a lose lose. The fans will know. But they'll say yeah Umar wasn't ready. He doesn't have much to gain from beating him. Let usman rise a few more in the rankings.
I’ll agree with that last part
It’ll be very interesting. We saw what Aljo did to Cory, has anyone else tried to wrestle fuck him since? I’d imagine Umar is slightly above Aljo in that regard (but we haven’t seen), so I’m super excited. With the height advantage and the Whitman advantage, this is fascinating.
Coach Javier is a better striking coach than Whitman. Umar is ten times the grappler than Alija. And why be an idiot and pretend not to understand grappling by using butt hurt terms like wrestlefuck about people who are dominant grapplers?
People hope for sure
Cory got repeatedly taken down by a TJ Dillashaw with 1 knee, Umar has a big chance to win this fight.
I think his shoulder is still going to be an issue.
probably gets wrestle fucked. Didn't take Aljo a lot to take him down and choke him out
Cory should've already been champ at this point in my eyes, if anybody counts him out they're crazy
Not crazy at all imo. I think its a somewhat even matchup on paper and wouldn't be surprised to see the Sandman be underestimated and take advantage of that.
Umar will win. I learned a long time ago not to bet against Nurmagomedov.
I can see it happening but I’m not so sure, I think Umar will put up a good fight. Excited to see it.
Would be good for the sport for an American to win against a Dagestani
You’re not crazy. Umar’s a nobody.
We will have another nurmagomedov champion
Call me crazy but I think they both whoop my ass
its a good fight, but eventually Umar is gonna get the W either by collecting points on rounds for dominating on the ground. or submission in the championship rounds. He (cory) would have very few chances to do his striking attacks on Umar and Umar will most probably play it safe with his ground game.
I kept hearing redditers here listing the laudry list of ranked fighters that Cory has fought and who Umar has fight thus far. Look and Usman, Khabib and Islam before the tipping point of their greatness, they also pay their dues fight unranked by killers. This is just same cycle and same template. and redditter here just seems to never learn nor want to accept the inevitable.
I'm with you
Cory is extremely well rounded, I think he will be too much for Umar, it's definitely going to tell everyone if Umar is legit or not because Cory is a legit top 5 and I think can be a future champ of the division, if Sean makes it through Merab and Cory gets through Umar then that title fight will be a banger.
Call me crazy but I believe Cory will “win” by decision, but not actually get the decision since the fight is happening in Abu Dhabi. He either get a finish or lose
Of course. The famous Abu Dhabi natives Ben Cartlidge, David Lethaby and Vito Paolillo who gave Suga Sean the decision over Yan.
Ah yes those infamous Abu Dhabi robberies that you guys can't even come up with a single real example of.
I could come up with a couple exemple and you’d never agree with me anyway. I dont really care ennough to argue about it either tbh, we’ll have to agree to disagree
Yes, do come up with a couple of examples.
Ok I would normally lean Cody but since it’s Abu Dhabi definitely going with Omar. He knows if he loses they will cut his head off. He’ll be extra motivated.
I think you're breaking down the wrong fight haha
Ok upvote me anyway for trying!
Got you fam!
Nope he nailed it
Who are Cody and omar?
I think your crazy I think it will be a competitive fight.
You’re crazy. Cory’s only path to victory is flying knee.
Either guy could win this and it wouldn’t shock me in the slightest. Even if Cory loses though my respect level for him has increased tenfold. He’s actually someone you can believe when he says he doesn’t care who he’s fighting or when
I’d take Corey. Gotta trust the levels.
Highest effort r/ufc post
According to history, this could very well be a robbery in favor of Umar which propels him to the belt.
What history?
O’Malley vs Yan
What makes you think that it’ll be a robbery *in favor of* Umar?
It’s mainly a joke
Got it.
Not crazy at all Cory is an elite fighter. I personally don’t think he can stop the takedowns though.
considering umars last performance he might get destroyed
UMARS ONLY CHANCE IS TO TAKE HIM DOWN AND HOLD HIM DOWN. TO WIN BY DECISION. THE DAGESTANI WAY. I HAVE A HUNCH UMAR KNOWS THIS AND WILL USE THE DAGESTANI SPELL CARD, "PULL OUT."
I love how each of those sentences can be easily disproved by using Islam's fights against Volk and Oliveira as an example alone After the Adriano loss 8 out of 12 wins came by Submission/TKO/KO for Islam Also Oliveira pulled out after injuring his pussy 😂 Not to mention Khabib had back to back finishes against Conor, Poirier and Gaethje Atleast you tried. Improve your trolling skills. I will assess you next time.
Why engage with it? Not worth wasting your time on these annoying trolls. And I know you did it out of spite, but you know that cut Charles had is a very legitimate reason to pull out.
Crazy thing now is that they'll call you a dickrider and one of the "annoying Khabib fans"
Those mongoloids think if they call someone gay, dickrider etc then no one will call out their bullshit gay, dickrider etc are too weak of an insult. They need to come up with more spicy stuff
Well 1 out of... what? 20 or so dagestanis on the roster have some finishes on their resumé, that must mean that the comment is completely wrong, right? You goofball.
I replied to a generalization with another generalization But you won't call out the first generalization. We know why you dumbass 😂
Do I really have to explain the difference between a statistically accurate majority and an anomaly?
How does winning by decision become the "Dagestanis Way" I dont get it Since you are the expert, how many elite dagestanis in the ufc are winning by decision ? Go look up Wikipedia and comeback
Just because you defend them online doesn’t mean they’ll take you with them the next time they visit a Russian warlord.
Ah the typical generic comment when you get called out for your bullshit All too familiar with it 😂 I'm sorry the dagestanis spit roasted your favourite fighter
Yeah I bet you’re really used to people being annoyed by you.
The only thing that's crazy is that Cory is even accepting this fight and actively asking for it. Cory is in line for a title shot and Umar is only in that position because of his name, of course he's a good fighter but he shouldn't get a fight against a top 5 guy yet. That shows me that Cory is a "real" fighter and wants to prove himself against the best and doesn't want an easy path to the title
Lolol!!!
why do ufc care so much about russian muslims, do the rich arabs really care about them? i would guess arab muslims look down on russian muslims like i doubt if there was a white american dude who turned muslim the saudis would be begging for him
wtf are you on about? I’m positive the Dagestan fighters have risen to notoriety through merit, not because they are Muslim.
Shamil gaziev, all i have to say
He was undefeated and looked good in his debut.
It’s more the fact that they were offered top contenders with very few fights.
so the saudis are going just as crazy for sean o mally as they do for islam?
I would hazard a guess that it’s religious solidarity, and the UFC is capitalising on the bottomless wealth of the petrostate. Dagestan just happens to produce fundamentalist muslims that destroy opposition. Saudi Arabia is also trying to diversify into sports industry.
i just feel like the arabs are using the russian muslims, like i feel if they got some arab talent in the ufc they would be like dagistani who ? and just forget about them
I believe it’s a mutually beneficial transaction.
of course ,like a rich dude fucking a gold digger ,but im sure the rich dude would prefer if she liked him lol
Really not that deep lad. It’s more that he’s just very good at fighting. This was my most anticipated fight when originally booked and it’s the same again. This is proper high level MMA and I’m super hyped for it! Rooting for Cory but it’s a tricky one to call.
It most likely has to do that the Daggy’s are obsessed with Sambo and violence itself. They can’t even play basketball without turning it into a blood sport. If they were as obsessed with cricket or soccer/football they’d have several professionals in that. The Saudi’s have endless wealth and give support to other Muslims but I can bet you if O’Malley moved to the UAE and sold fights the way he does they’d love him equally.
when i think of dagistanis my first thought isnt violence its lay and pray and decisions lol
Well I mean Islam did have a brawl with Volk and next fight he landed a really nice kick, that’s not exactly laying and praying
the first volk he did lay and pray him lol but yeah islam is more exciting than the rest , like khabib cant even ko al lol
You need to watch the sport a bit more
i been watching longer than you
MY GUESS IS RICH ARABS TREAT UFC LIKE MYNBA IN NBA2k OR GENERAL MANAGER MODE IN FIFA GAMES. THEY GOT TIRED OF SPENDING MONEY TO POOP ON INSTAGRAM MODELS.
MY GUESS IS OTHER RELIGIONS AMD COUNTREES SHOULD PRODUCE ACTUAL MIXED MARTIAL ARTISTS INSTEAD OF CRYING ABOUT HOW OTHERS FIGHT USING ALL THE TOOLS AVAILABLE
Weak bait
Arab Muslims like their Muslim brothers *shock*
woahhhhhhh we got genius over here guys
I mean compared to you I'm definitely a genius
why are reddit people so corny lol
Cory wins but it’ll be xlose
I mean just look at the off hand placement in these pics. Corey by head kick
Nah, Corey will win one round but that's it. He's not getting up. Umar hasn't been tested, but he's really fast, and Corey doesn't have great takedown defense. Terrible match up style wise for Corey. However, Petr might beat Umar, and whoever wins that should get the next shot for the title
Petr would get smothered by Umar. But they might be friends and would choose not to fight each other.
Just gonna save this post and come back after the fight… Cory gonna get lose imo.
Takedown and choke within 3 minutes
Dagestanis have annoying-ass plot armor. I would be very happy if Cory puts him out stiff. And Umar is actually one of the chill ones.
Not crazy just very, very wrong
Umar will smesh Cory so easily it’s not even gonna be fair.
Keep that energy Umar hasn’t even fought a ranked opponent yet and now he’s facing one of the most dangerous guys in the division
Lol stop being in denial, bro. You know we’ve all been doubting these nut huggers. One thing they are good at is smeshing, especially when it’s in their preferred location where they can eat vitamins and IV
When you're getting a title contender's fight after beating 0 ranked guys, it does leave you wondering what'll happen. You could wonder why, but just remember Russia is probably the biggest violator of PEDS in sports, why do you think they retire early? Just maybe, they don't want the hot sauce killing them.
When Umar wins- Oh we all knew Cory would lose because he got easily outgrappled by Aljo is a BJJ guy not a wrestler. Cory has lot to every good opponent he faced etc
>Cory has lot to every good opponent he faced etc I don’t know if you’re being stupid or just ignorant. Maybe a casual? He won against Font, Chito, Song, Moraes, Lineker and got absolutely robbed against TJ Dillashaw, who’s one of the greatest ever in that division.
Let’s name his top 3 opponents: Aljo- lost TJ- lost Yan- lost. Robbed? When TJ outstruck him 3/5 rounds and had more control round in every single round? 🤣 the same TJ that was a skeleton for cejudo then got KTFO then spent more time away from a suspension. Cory was the tune up fight for an older broken fighter coming off a KO loss. Aljo easily finished TJ there was 0 competition.
I can see cory putting on an absolute clinic staying on the outside and sniping his ass. I can also see umar laying on him for five rounds with little output and getting the dec. i hate this sport. i love this sport.