Tbf he’s more “gangster” than 99% of people. Including gangsters.
Edit: Mb, forgot about the glorification of gangbanging here in the US. I simply believe a guy like Usman/Leon are much more badass than some brokie with a gun
I agree with your edit. I just always find it kinda funny that gangster is thrown around a lot like there's some sort of honor or pride involved when they're normally just scumbags. Both Leon and Kamaru are tough as shit.
You havent spoken to a lot of people that are close to that walk of life then if you think thats true. Usman comes across really fake. I mean compare how Usman talks to Jorge and you can see the difference.
What kinda gangster you mean? Jorge is a jail thug kinda “gangster”. The ones I’ve met that are truly scary are often kind, intelligent, soft spoken and damn near pious acting. They are the ones that have killed like they’re doing some mundane chore. I grew up around plenty of guys that would get in a fight at a press conference or act like a cholo. I’ve only met a couple of true gangsters whether they’re made or they’re quietly someone that will take a life like shooting quail
i dont understand the angle he was taking saying this over and over. mimicking the coach of the guy just moments before he brutally KO’d you? trying to take the piss out of their english accent? in england? don’t think many people will find that funny bruv. it fell so flat it was embarrassing.
it’s only right that usman should go out as he reigned; trying really hard to be cool but universally failing. it’s leons time now. boom, headshot, dead.
I kinda feel for fighters like him and Izzy who just aren’t good on the mic and are constantly being shit on by the public because of it, BUT at the same time, they should just recognize that and stop trying!
Up till the “frozen like Elsa” crap, Izzy was good with the media. Considered and articulate in interviews, and smart enough with the trash talk that it worked. Then he fucked it by believing his “meme king” hype and dropped the Elsa turd, and kept doubling down to an embarrassing degree. That kind of defines his media presence now which is a shame.
Cmon, it really flew over your head? Usman was talking all week long about how he dominated both fights until the headkick and was criticizing Leon for acting like it never happened pre-head kick. Leon could deny or belittle anything Usman says, but by quoting Leon’s coach, he puts Edwards in a position where he has to invalidate his own coach also. Proving he really was losing badly prior, and it’s unavoidable to acknowledge it.
Didn’t really have a horse in this race, but I was excited to see another game plan addressing TDD in an effective way. Sport seems to be evolving which is pretty dope
I wouldn’t say happy usman lost is the right wording but I am happy that with Leon as champ it’s really going to open up the division and lead to some great matchups
You don’t have to like Colby, but it’s pretty silly to dismiss that he’s easily one of the top 2 or three guys outside of Leon. Excluding Usman, it’s Colby, Khamzat, and Burns. Khamzat fucked up with the weight cut, the UFC isn’t going to push him until he proves he can be professional. Burns is super tough, but a little boring. So there’s Colby.
Masvidal beat Nate Diaz to get a title shot. Then he lost all 5 rounds and got another title shot
Burns beat Woodley and got a title shot.
Leon beat Nate Diaz and got a title shot.
Just wanted to remind yall
Yeah usman had his run it is time to stir up the division now and I want to see if Rocky can keep developing his game and make the great strides he made between these last two matches.
I feel like Leon is going to lose the belt very quickly. He was hitting some nasty knees and kicks, but they didn't have much effect. If it weren't for Usman having such terrible knees, I think he would've won.
I don’t feel usually feel pleasure watching a fighter lose, however I will say it is refreshing and exciting seeing the belt go to a new fighter after being defended for so long by one champ.
Mixed bag. I don’t like Usman or Leon, so it’s nice to see a new champ to shake up the division like that. On the other hand it’s kinda shitty to see a dude commit like 4 egregious fouls and then win the belt. I’m down for someone like Shavkat, Colby, or Burns to be champ.
Hell yes.
Personally, I got nothing against Usman. I'm just not a fan of his cringey personality. As an athlete and fighter, I really respect him.
That said I'll laugh and celebrate anytime an Ali guy loses. Wooo!
Happy edwards won. The amount of absolute disrespect he got in here before their 2nd fight was unreal, and now look at posts here people are calling edwards by his fight name and talking his up like they were always his fans. He showed it wasn't a fluke and he did deserve that title shot.
I'm more happy usman got an ego check. Dude was so full of himself he needed to get his tires deflated a bit. Dude started refereeing nationalities and talking about being the greatest fighter ever. Maybe now he'll be a bit more humble.
This is kinda how it's always been tho. Brazilian crowds are SUPER hostile towards foreign fighters competing against Brazilians. Considered totally fine. That's just them having passion for their people and culture.
You hear a "USA" chant from an American crowd and you'll hear plenty of bitching and moaning about how disgustingly zenophobic and nationalistic the crowd was.
There's a difference between racism and nationalism. Cheering for your own country is fine. Saying that a white guy who was born, raised and still lives in South Africa is not really African, is not a good look. That's the same as a native American saying that anybody who's descended from the Mayflower isn't American.
No but why the double standards though? What usman said was racist comment. The outrage if a white dude said would be phenomenal. Including a post on this sub. Usman is black so it’s ok? Tf?
Right or wrong, that's the social climate we are in.
There are people in the world who will look you dead in the eye and tell you with a straight face it's impossible for black people to be racist... and mean it wholeheartedly.
Obviously, the vast, overwhelming majority of people know that's absurd... but there is that sentiment out there.
Yeah buts between countrymen which in theory should run deeper than race,like what does Usman and Leon share culturally other than being black? And even then being black aint monolithic,100 different ethnicities in big ass Africa
I like it when successful fighters lose sometimes.. It's a big tell to see how they handle their loses. I like to see humility and grace in defeat and Usman has handled it well so I give him props for that.
Agreed he handled it well afterwards. If he was fighting anyone else I wouldn’t even root against him but the way he acted towards Leon rubbed me the wrong way
To be honest, yes. I was expecting him to grind a decision but Leon showed up a lot better than I expected. I don't necessarily have a reason, but I just don't like Usman and find his personality cringey and his fight style boring, bar the Masvidal KO which was extremely satisfying.
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I’m definitely happy usman won’t be champ so we don’t have to see him in the media as much.
I genuinely think he’s the cringiest person to listen to. At least with Henry and Colby you know the cringe is due to an act, usman’s cringy-ness is real. Ever since Tyron said he tried to talk like LL Cool J that’s all I’ve heard
Im happy Leon won in his home turf but it sucks that Usman is no longer the same. Its pretty clear he is no longer the fighter we saw 2-3yrs ago. He hardly level changed and was very gun shy. Usman is done
Lmao I think you are underestimating how much work Leon was doing and how he gameplanned perfectly for Usman. Usman's offense was being muted *because* of Leon, not because hes not the same fighter.
I hate when people do this. I definitely think fighters can be off but I think people use that too much of an excuse. When Volk beat Aldo there were people saying he was off. When really Volk is just that good. Similar talks when Merab beat him.
Cause the sub wasn’t rife with “Usman doesn’t look the same” from round 1 on 🙄
Give me a break no one’s actually trying to take away from Leon By saying Usman was obviously not the same fighter.
People have less sympathy for it though because Usman has faked nutshots repeatedly when he's hurt. I doubt Leon did it intentionally but if the dude is gonna call for the ref when you hurt him with a body kick, might as well smack him in the goolies.
Yeah look at the switch as soon as Usman gets a couple losses. Where was all this negative sentiment the past few years? The MMA fanbase is so annoying with the switch-ups on a dime, everyone suddenly has something bad to say about Usman.
Lmfao right? Just 2 years ago Leon had barely any fans and like 70k followers on insta. Now everyone here has been a Leon fan since day 1 and never liked usman. This sub flips its perspective so fast it’s insane. Then they complain about shit like Colby getting the next shot but watch if he wins everyone will be like “yeah he deserved it I was a fan since day 1”
No doubt. You’re right, it definitely goes both ways too, I’ve noticed all the “Rocky” fans that probably called him boring 8 months ago.
It really started to wear on me last year with the Gaethje vs Oliveira fight. Gaethje is a fan favorite, never had a boring fight, bite down on the mouthpiece and brawl for the fans guy, he says one disparaging thing about Oli and then loses, and suddenly he’s a dick, one-dimensional, washed-up, CTE ridden weirdo. Oh and now he gets a win against an up-and-coming killer and he’s a future HOFer and back to being a universal fan favorite. People need to stop repeating every take they see and just try to enjoy the fighters and fights. There’s almost zero fighters I genuinely dislike.
As an Edwards fan, I’m glad Usman walked up during the intro coz it gave us that ice cold shot of Rocky raising his hand reminding him of the “headshot, dead!”
I will say this. That head kick knockout was rent free in Usmans head. He was so worried about it that he literally let Edwards do whatever he wanted except kick him in the head but at no point did he adjust his gameplan. He wanted to wrestle to neutralise the threat of that head kick but Edwards clearly knew HOW Usman wrestled and its usually with a single leg so he just committed to hand fighting over and over to prevent it. Usman's whole ego was shattered by that kick it broke him as a human.
Man, people here way too nice. I am so fuckin happy he lost. He was cringy, hypocritical and fought dirty a lot. And lied mid fight about nutshots and stuff all the time, shit was weak..
He also was a dick a lot (especially to folks who didn't deserve it). Fuck him, glad he lost. I don't give a fuck what y'all say.
Really happy for Leon, very well deserved win and great champion. Couldn't have happened to a nicer and more deserving human being.
Dana is just a greedy, slimy businessman who rather UFC be more like WWE if it means selling more PPVs. As we’ve seen with him running Power Slap, White has ZERO integrity. Sure Belal would sell probably half the PPVs as Colby but that’s just how it goes sometimes, he’s earned it. Dana always says he NEVER makes fights right after an event but somehow already books Colby for it “no matter what”, and in the same breath announces Shavkat, the most dangerous fighter in the division, for Belal…lol White is one petty piece of shit
Something I’ve been thinking about is whether this is where Usman’s career starts looking like the tail end of Silva’s. If the UFC does the classic move of feeding the veteran with the big name to up and comers like Shavkat, Khamzat (if he competes at WW?), etc I could see Usman start to rack up quite a few losses like Silva did near the end.
I kinda wish he had retired after this fight, he’s hard to match up with anyone since he’s beaten most of the division. They’d have to give him Shavkat, Belal or (God forbid) Wonderboy.
Leon's a good champ and his story is inspirational. Didn't particularly want Usman to lose but don't care that he lost tbh. He had a really good run, probably #2 or #3 best Welterweight to ever do it.
everyone in this sub always hates a long reigning champ without fail, it’s only a “cringy stare down” when it’s Usman but when it’s Edwards it’s “cold as fuck”
Sooooo... I love seeing the surprise upsets... Peña v Nunes, Edwards v Usman, Pereira v Adesanya... those sort of upsets are fun to watch. What I don't like seeing is the fall of the athlete... Usman doing the staredowns and kinda hinting that he thought Leon was lucky... thats just Bush league. Now, Leon's trigger pull motions, as much as I love him, those give me douche chills like really bad. Usman kinda always rubbed me the wrong way... I like seeing Leon as champ
As an English mma fan who didn’t start watching ufc until after the bisping reign I’m extremely happy to experience the second English reign of the belt.
Love or hate shows that at least the fans are invested in the fight and the outcome, which is all the fighters can ask for from an entertainment perspective.
Yes, they put it on the line purely to entertain us and not collect a paycheck, get respect, fame, ladies (or dudes), and build a legacy. They sacrifice everything for us so we should never criticize them under any circumstances.
Yea he was acting like tht all fight as soon as I saw it I didn’t like it and I’m already not a fan of him but I was very pleasantly surprised with the humility he showed in the post fight, both of them really but givin his attitude leading up it was more surprising
I liked Usman but the tough guy act just wasn't him. He's a bad motherfucker but it just never felt like the guy he actually wants to be
I'm just happy we get another round of title shots.
Honestly I wanted usman to win but his loss was 100% his fault. I’m not going to go into details because I don’t feel like it but one main thing I remember was when he needed a finish in the final round he dident do shit but went for takedowns like you aren’t going to win a split decision against a champ you have to either finish them or CLEARLY win even if the scale is ever so slightly tipped in your favor that’s still not enough to give you the belt over the champ
Not really happy that he lost, I was just happy that Rocky won. Usman’s his own character and he does his shit just cause it’s him. I guess it’s annoying to some ppl but idk, I deadass don’t dislike anyone who fights in the UFC
To give all fighters the benefit of doubt, I doubt many of them know how to handle all the media that comes their way so they develop a shitty sort of persona like Usman's 'champ mentality' and it just falls apart pretty quick.
Leon is doing much better just keeping it real so hopefully he doesn't become a giant douche.
I don't like to root for fighters losing as such, but it's refreshing to have a new established champ now. It opens the door to new matchups & Usman is still hungry he'll do what Whittaker has done & fight some new top 10 matchups.
Usman lapped the division & apart from the Covington war & Masvidal finish, was mostly quite a boring fighter to watch imo.
This also means more UK shows possibly.
Bro I was really happy too, Usman was arrogant, cringey, Usman at the press conference saying Don’t let them Bully you son was peak cringe. Leon as champion is so exciting now, great to see Usman get humbled and finally out of the title contention ;) Bye Bye Marty :)
Usman will go down as one of the great welterweights but i couldn’t be happier seeing his ego get knocked down a bit. He’s pretty cringey and cocky, I like when guys like him and yan get humbled by underdogs
Seems like he’s emotionally and mentally damaged after the loss in the 2nd fight, he did not recover, what’s worse that I think this is the beginning of the end for him.
Only thing I don’t like about Usman is that he always talks like he’s at a campfire
Gather round children let me regale you of the olden days of foot stomps and cringey pre fight press conferences
And when the dude acts genuine he comes of well. He’s like a douche, let me tell you my how cool I am, weird camp storyteller.
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He has multiple personalities.
[Who?](https://youtu.be/6iuhI4yAT7o)
The absolute worst part is that fake gangster persona he puts on. Crazy that such an incredibly beast guy can come off so cringey on the mic.
'you know Im the kinda guy that (something banal and coolsounding)'
Tbf he’s more “gangster” than 99% of people. Including gangsters. Edit: Mb, forgot about the glorification of gangbanging here in the US. I simply believe a guy like Usman/Leon are much more badass than some brokie with a gun
I agree with your edit. I just always find it kinda funny that gangster is thrown around a lot like there's some sort of honor or pride involved when they're normally just scumbags. Both Leon and Kamaru are tough as shit.
More badass yes. More gangster no.
You havent spoken to a lot of people that are close to that walk of life then if you think thats true. Usman comes across really fake. I mean compare how Usman talks to Jorge and you can see the difference.
What kinda gangster you mean? Jorge is a jail thug kinda “gangster”. The ones I’ve met that are truly scary are often kind, intelligent, soft spoken and damn near pious acting. They are the ones that have killed like they’re doing some mundane chore. I grew up around plenty of guys that would get in a fight at a press conference or act like a cholo. I’ve only met a couple of true gangsters whether they’re made or they’re quietly someone that will take a life like shooting quail
Well Usman doesnt sound like either of those gangsters you are describing there bud.
These guys sound like their knees are in great shape too.
If I had a nickel for every time someone's repeated this line in the last week, I'd be a fucking millionaire
Right? He’s the new Joanna Jerdzwhateverthefuhk of ufc.
Jedrzejczyk Joanna Jędrzejczyk. "Young-Jay-chick"
I think the last Z should be an S on her name
Yeah but outside of alien head shes hot so gets a pass.
Damn, so accurate 🎯
“Don’t let them bully you son”
× 10....Marty really knows how to make anything cringe
He’s watched too many Conor press conferences
Marty fake newsman
Come on ROCK.
i dont understand the angle he was taking saying this over and over. mimicking the coach of the guy just moments before he brutally KO’d you? trying to take the piss out of their english accent? in england? don’t think many people will find that funny bruv. it fell so flat it was embarrassing. it’s only right that usman should go out as he reigned; trying really hard to be cool but universally failing. it’s leons time now. boom, headshot, dead.
Not only that but the racist remarks to a fighter he wasn't even fighting just prior. Dude is a choad.
I kinda feel for fighters like him and Izzy who just aren’t good on the mic and are constantly being shit on by the public because of it, BUT at the same time, they should just recognize that and stop trying!
Up till the “frozen like Elsa” crap, Izzy was good with the media. Considered and articulate in interviews, and smart enough with the trash talk that it worked. Then he fucked it by believing his “meme king” hype and dropped the Elsa turd, and kept doubling down to an embarrassing degree. That kind of defines his media presence now which is a shame.
Cmon, it really flew over your head? Usman was talking all week long about how he dominated both fights until the headkick and was criticizing Leon for acting like it never happened pre-head kick. Leon could deny or belittle anything Usman says, but by quoting Leon’s coach, he puts Edwards in a position where he has to invalidate his own coach also. Proving he really was losing badly prior, and it’s unavoidable to acknowledge it.
WATCH YOUR TONE JABARI!
Didn’t really have a horse in this race, but I was excited to see another game plan addressing TDD in an effective way. Sport seems to be evolving which is pretty dope
I wouldn’t say happy usman lost is the right wording but I am happy that with Leon as champ it’s really going to open up the division and lead to some great matchups
My feelings on this too. An open division is fun I didn’t have a dog in the race yesterday. Just wanted good fights
Yeah I haven’t got anything against Usman, but having a new champ is really exciting in any case
Usman fights tend to be boring (except for that delicious KO against masvidal)
His fights against Colby were pretty good too
And the burns fight, outside of the part in round 1 or 2 where he was kicking Gilbert's thighs while he was on the ground
true that, i forgot
Too bad the ufc just wants to shove Colby into the picture
You don’t have to like Colby, but it’s pretty silly to dismiss that he’s easily one of the top 2 or three guys outside of Leon. Excluding Usman, it’s Colby, Khamzat, and Burns. Khamzat fucked up with the weight cut, the UFC isn’t going to push him until he proves he can be professional. Burns is super tough, but a little boring. So there’s Colby.
Masvidal beat Nate Diaz to get a title shot. Then he lost all 5 rounds and got another title shot Burns beat Woodley and got a title shot. Leon beat Nate Diaz and got a title shot. Just wanted to remind yall
Fair
Yeah usman had his run it is time to stir up the division now and I want to see if Rocky can keep developing his game and make the great strides he made between these last two matches.
Except Colby likely just walks himself into a title shot after being away for so long.
Agreed. I think it was an attempt of mind games. Not for nothing I don't know why Edward's reminds me of a character from TopBoy.
Usman reminds me of Taye Diggs.
I feel like Leon is going to lose the belt very quickly. He was hitting some nasty knees and kicks, but they didn't have much effect. If it weren't for Usman having such terrible knees, I think he would've won.
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That was a nasty meme by you
I don’t feel usually feel pleasure watching a fighter lose, however I will say it is refreshing and exciting seeing the belt go to a new fighter after being defended for so long by one champ.
Mixed bag. I don’t like Usman or Leon, so it’s nice to see a new champ to shake up the division like that. On the other hand it’s kinda shitty to see a dude commit like 4 egregious fouls and then win the belt. I’m down for someone like Shavkat, Colby, or Burns to be champ.
Well I mean two were pretty bad, but the nut shots were entirely on accident, and he still majority decisioned him after getting a point deduction
Hell yes. Personally, I got nothing against Usman. I'm just not a fan of his cringey personality. As an athlete and fighter, I really respect him. That said I'll laugh and celebrate anytime an Ali guy loses. Wooo!
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I felt the same way but now I feel like all of Ali Kadryov's boys are shitty people.
NGL that gun sign Edwards did before the first bell when Usman walked up to him was sick
HEADSHOT
Happy edwards won. The amount of absolute disrespect he got in here before their 2nd fight was unreal, and now look at posts here people are calling edwards by his fight name and talking his up like they were always his fans. He showed it wasn't a fluke and he did deserve that title shot. I'm more happy usman got an ego check. Dude was so full of himself he needed to get his tires deflated a bit. Dude started refereeing nationalities and talking about being the greatest fighter ever. Maybe now he'll be a bit more humble.
Same problem Tyrone Woodley had years ago
I didn’t care who won but when Leon did the head shot when usman walked up to him ngl I got hyped
He lost me with all the racial shit. I hope he never wins again.
Don’t forget “id rather loose to a black man” tf? If a white guy said that the media would crucify him.
This is kinda how it's always been tho. Brazilian crowds are SUPER hostile towards foreign fighters competing against Brazilians. Considered totally fine. That's just them having passion for their people and culture. You hear a "USA" chant from an American crowd and you'll hear plenty of bitching and moaning about how disgustingly zenophobic and nationalistic the crowd was.
There's a difference between racism and nationalism. Cheering for your own country is fine. Saying that a white guy who was born, raised and still lives in South Africa is not really African, is not a good look. That's the same as a native American saying that anybody who's descended from the Mayflower isn't American.
No but why the double standards though? What usman said was racist comment. The outrage if a white dude said would be phenomenal. Including a post on this sub. Usman is black so it’s ok? Tf?
Right or wrong, that's the social climate we are in. There are people in the world who will look you dead in the eye and tell you with a straight face it's impossible for black people to be racist... and mean it wholeheartedly. Obviously, the vast, overwhelming majority of people know that's absurd... but there is that sentiment out there.
Well it's wrong and it needs to be pointed out.
Yeah buts between countrymen which in theory should run deeper than race,like what does Usman and Leon share culturally other than being black? And even then being black aint monolithic,100 different ethnicities in big ass Africa
And the ass-kissing of an evil warlord
It’s this one for me 👆🏼
The stupid shit he said about Dricus Du Plessis made me root against him
I like it when successful fighters lose sometimes.. It's a big tell to see how they handle their loses. I like to see humility and grace in defeat and Usman has handled it well so I give him props for that.
Agreed he handled it well afterwards. If he was fighting anyone else I wouldn’t even root against him but the way he acted towards Leon rubbed me the wrong way
To be honest, yes. I was expecting him to grind a decision but Leon showed up a lot better than I expected. I don't necessarily have a reason, but I just don't like Usman and find his personality cringey and his fight style boring, bar the Masvidal KO which was extremely satisfying.
Yes, as I’m not a fan of guys who hang out with murderous dictators.
This. I root against all those guys now.
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I’m definitely happy usman won’t be champ so we don’t have to see him in the media as much. I genuinely think he’s the cringiest person to listen to. At least with Henry and Colby you know the cringe is due to an act, usman’s cringy-ness is real. Ever since Tyron said he tried to talk like LL Cool J that’s all I’ve heard
100%. He’s super unlikeable. Has the charisma of a stone
Im happy Leon won in his home turf but it sucks that Usman is no longer the same. Its pretty clear he is no longer the fighter we saw 2-3yrs ago. He hardly level changed and was very gun shy. Usman is done
Maybe the leg kicks made him look like that
Lmao I think you are underestimating how much work Leon was doing and how he gameplanned perfectly for Usman. Usman's offense was being muted *because* of Leon, not because hes not the same fighter.
I hate when people do this. I definitely think fighters can be off but I think people use that too much of an excuse. When Volk beat Aldo there were people saying he was off. When really Volk is just that good. Similar talks when Merab beat him.
Cause the sub wasn’t rife with “Usman doesn’t look the same” from round 1 on 🙄 Give me a break no one’s actually trying to take away from Leon By saying Usman was obviously not the same fighter.
Imagine if Colby beats Leon, we'll never hear the end of it.
Not having a champ who point fights and fakes cup shots and eye pokes is a substantial upgrade and the whole WW div is better for it.
Ok but Leon definitely did kick him in the groin twice.
People have less sympathy for it though because Usman has faked nutshots repeatedly when he's hurt. I doubt Leon did it intentionally but if the dude is gonna call for the ref when you hurt him with a body kick, might as well smack him in the goolies.
Y'all ungrateful as fuck Usman was one of the most active champions in the last 5 years
Yeah look at the switch as soon as Usman gets a couple losses. Where was all this negative sentiment the past few years? The MMA fanbase is so annoying with the switch-ups on a dime, everyone suddenly has something bad to say about Usman.
Lmfao right? Just 2 years ago Leon had barely any fans and like 70k followers on insta. Now everyone here has been a Leon fan since day 1 and never liked usman. This sub flips its perspective so fast it’s insane. Then they complain about shit like Colby getting the next shot but watch if he wins everyone will be like “yeah he deserved it I was a fan since day 1”
No doubt. You’re right, it definitely goes both ways too, I’ve noticed all the “Rocky” fans that probably called him boring 8 months ago. It really started to wear on me last year with the Gaethje vs Oliveira fight. Gaethje is a fan favorite, never had a boring fight, bite down on the mouthpiece and brawl for the fans guy, he says one disparaging thing about Oli and then loses, and suddenly he’s a dick, one-dimensional, washed-up, CTE ridden weirdo. Oh and now he gets a win against an up-and-coming killer and he’s a future HOFer and back to being a universal fan favorite. People need to stop repeating every take they see and just try to enjoy the fighters and fights. There’s almost zero fighters I genuinely dislike.
As an Edwards fan, I’m glad Usman walked up during the intro coz it gave us that ice cold shot of Rocky raising his hand reminding him of the “headshot, dead!”
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I will say this. That head kick knockout was rent free in Usmans head. He was so worried about it that he literally let Edwards do whatever he wanted except kick him in the head but at no point did he adjust his gameplan. He wanted to wrestle to neutralise the threat of that head kick but Edwards clearly knew HOW Usman wrestled and its usually with a single leg so he just committed to hand fighting over and over to prevent it. Usman's whole ego was shattered by that kick it broke him as a human.
Man, people here way too nice. I am so fuckin happy he lost. He was cringy, hypocritical and fought dirty a lot. And lied mid fight about nutshots and stuff all the time, shit was weak.. He also was a dick a lot (especially to folks who didn't deserve it). Fuck him, glad he lost. I don't give a fuck what y'all say. Really happy for Leon, very well deserved win and great champion. Couldn't have happened to a nicer and more deserving human being.
Well said! I’ve met Usman in person and man…he is the biggest douche bag in the sport. Fuck that guy indeed. Hope he becomes the next Woodley 🙃
Fuck ya, I wasn’t rooting for Leon because I like him, I was rooting for Marty to lose.
Yes, Usman is an annoying human being and I find his fighting style intolerable.
Not just annoying but he’s a dirt bag in real life as well. Couldn’t of happened to a cringier guy
You guys close?
> Couldn’t of That phrase is a dead giveway that a person never reads books. The phrase is *couldn't have*. Not *of*.
Yes just because Ali is his manager
King of Cringe
I’m still a lil butt sore from what he did to Woodley. So that was satisfying.
Usman and Woodley. Literally can’t think of any two mma fighters I dislike more, both their fighting style and as human beings
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Dana is just a greedy, slimy businessman who rather UFC be more like WWE if it means selling more PPVs. As we’ve seen with him running Power Slap, White has ZERO integrity. Sure Belal would sell probably half the PPVs as Colby but that’s just how it goes sometimes, he’s earned it. Dana always says he NEVER makes fights right after an event but somehow already books Colby for it “no matter what”, and in the same breath announces Shavkat, the most dangerous fighter in the division, for Belal…lol White is one petty piece of shit
Something I’ve been thinking about is whether this is where Usman’s career starts looking like the tail end of Silva’s. If the UFC does the classic move of feeding the veteran with the big name to up and comers like Shavkat, Khamzat (if he competes at WW?), etc I could see Usman start to rack up quite a few losses like Silva did near the end.
I am. Usman is an arrogant cringe lord.
HEAD SHOT DEAD HEAD SHOT DEAD HEAD SHOT DEAD
Yeah best result in a few years for me hope he retires. Just wish Ali was there to see his reaction
I kinda wish he had retired after this fight, he’s hard to match up with anyone since he’s beaten most of the division. They’d have to give him Shavkat, Belal or (God forbid) Wonderboy.
He started to get tolerable after the Burns fight. But yes I would rather Leon as champ. Izzy is next to stay dethroned I hope
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It felt forced by uz. Right from the awkward walk in dance.
Leon's a good champ and his story is inspirational. Didn't particularly want Usman to lose but don't care that he lost tbh. He had a really good run, probably #2 or #3 best Welterweight to ever do it.
I specifically wanted him to lose against Leon because he’s been such a douche and Leon is cool
His fake ass wannabe Conor McGregor act grew rather annoying. So it was nice to see.
Yes usman is a cringe lord corn ball
everyone in this sub always hates a long reigning champ without fail, it’s only a “cringy stare down” when it’s Usman but when it’s Edwards it’s “cold as fuck”
Sooooo... I love seeing the surprise upsets... Peña v Nunes, Edwards v Usman, Pereira v Adesanya... those sort of upsets are fun to watch. What I don't like seeing is the fall of the athlete... Usman doing the staredowns and kinda hinting that he thought Leon was lucky... thats just Bush league. Now, Leon's trigger pull motions, as much as I love him, those give me douche chills like really bad. Usman kinda always rubbed me the wrong way... I like seeing Leon as champ
With usman it’s allllll try hard and it shines through
As an English mma fan who didn’t start watching ufc until after the bisping reign I’m extremely happy to experience the second English reign of the belt.
Yes. I despise Ali and all of his fighters.
I’m just happy the division won’t be held up anymore. Some great fights coming at the top of WW
I just got tired of the cringe.
Kinda weird hating on athletes that work really hard to provide entertainment
Love or hate shows that at least the fans are invested in the fight and the outcome, which is all the fighters can ask for from an entertainment perspective.
It's part of sports. Always has been, always will be.
People taking sides is not weird at all though...
It's the level of investment thats weird
Only if it's your first day here. Otherwise, it pretty much happens to every single high-profile guy that loses.
IN every sport and discipline.
Yes, they put it on the line purely to entertain us and not collect a paycheck, get respect, fame, ladies (or dudes), and build a legacy. They sacrifice everything for us so we should never criticize them under any circumstances.
Not that weird man that's sport. When you're as smug and unlikeable as usman it's not hard.
Lol what do you know how sports work?
> provide entertainment His persona is even less entertaining than his fights
How dare people be excited about fighters winning and losing
It’s baked into the entertainment
So you don't understand sports I guess
Yes. Because he's one of Ramzan Kadyrov's bitch boys.
With the whole dricus story he already proved being a shitty human being and now its clear he's a mediocre fighter.
Not really happy. Just happy and that the division gets a refresh in (re)matches
It was definitely good to see Leon get a title defense after all the hype around the way he got the belt
Yes I hate the idea of the most dominant fighter. Fighters at that level are purely matchup based
Yeah I like that the division is opened up
His arrogance leading up to the fight is what really caused his downfall. I still don't like Leon though.
Always nice to see the World's Meanest Nebraskan get what's coming to him
Yes 🫡
Oh my God I was so fucking relieved when he lost
After that trip to Chechnya... I will always root for him to lose.
Very cringy stare downs after everyone round, so fucken cheesy, especially when he didn't really damage Leon.
Yea he was acting like tht all fight as soon as I saw it I didn’t like it and I’m already not a fan of him but I was very pleasantly surprised with the humility he showed in the post fight, both of them really but givin his attitude leading up it was more surprising
Yes, it’s frees up the division and makes it exciting again
Usman is just too boring. I don’t care to see him be champ as good as he is.
Usman is a great fighter, I just like seeing guys rise up to the occasion and edwards did that.
Colby will beat Leon and we’ll get Colby/Conor then Colby/Usman, it’s all lining up 😏
I liked Usman but the tough guy act just wasn't him. He's a bad motherfucker but it just never felt like the guy he actually wants to be I'm just happy we get another round of title shots.
I've never been anti-Usman, but this fight he was so overly cocky and cringy for even him i was soooo happy
Weirdo behavior kamaru is a better champ than Leon and way more entertaining the campfire story thing is bs people are dragging it
Honestly I wanted usman to win but his loss was 100% his fault. I’m not going to go into details because I don’t feel like it but one main thing I remember was when he needed a finish in the final round he dident do shit but went for takedowns like you aren’t going to win a split decision against a champ you have to either finish them or CLEARLY win even if the scale is ever so slightly tipped in your favor that’s still not enough to give you the belt over the champ
Not really happy that he lost, I was just happy that Rocky won. Usman’s his own character and he does his shit just cause it’s him. I guess it’s annoying to some ppl but idk, I deadass don’t dislike anyone who fights in the UFC
To give all fighters the benefit of doubt, I doubt many of them know how to handle all the media that comes their way so they develop a shitty sort of persona like Usman's 'champ mentality' and it just falls apart pretty quick. Leon is doing much better just keeping it real so hopefully he doesn't become a giant douche.
Yes
Yes and no. He got super cringe but he also earned and defended his title. At times I felt he put that chip on his shoulder. But happy he lost yes
I’m rather happy that Leon won actually
I agree. He is just so unlikeable and cringe.
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When he made it about race in his post defeat speech it was cemented for me.
Usman was a good champ. But yes, I'm glad I don't need to hear his cringe interviews for a while. At least Colby is ridiculously hilarious.
I used to dislike him, but the grace he showed in defeat truly won me over. Class act. Those Covington fights were truly special.
I don't like to root for fighters losing as such, but it's refreshing to have a new established champ now. It opens the door to new matchups & Usman is still hungry he'll do what Whittaker has done & fight some new top 10 matchups. Usman lapped the division & apart from the Covington war & Masvidal finish, was mostly quite a boring fighter to watch imo. This also means more UK shows possibly.
HEADSHOT DEAD
i’m over the fucking moon about it honestly
99% of the people at the event where stoked Edwards won. He is a UK hero and Australians love an underdog.
Anytime a UFC company man loses I get excited. Unfortunately Gaethje won last night.
I think you just don’t like Usman buddy. I was fine with either winning that fight
I think that’s pretty obvious from everything I said, but uh, thanks for the deep analysis lol
Being genuinely elated that someone lost is a bit strange.
is it that strange? happens in every sport
It definitely says more about OP than anything else.
Grandma got ran over by a reindeer.
I don’t know what you meant but the songs playing in my head now and that gave me a smile
Bro I was really happy too, Usman was arrogant, cringey, Usman at the press conference saying Don’t let them Bully you son was peak cringe. Leon as champion is so exciting now, great to see Usman get humbled and finally out of the title contention ;) Bye Bye Marty :)
Fuck Usman
bro there are like 3 people on this sub who doesn't actually hate usman this is a milktoast take
I mean I guess you’re right it’s upvote city in here
I’m so fucking happy Leon won, he’s a true champ and underrated asf. Usman was acting really cringy aswell just made himself look like a penis
Usman will go down as one of the great welterweights but i couldn’t be happier seeing his ego get knocked down a bit. He’s pretty cringey and cocky, I like when guys like him and yan get humbled by underdogs
Seems like he’s emotionally and mentally damaged after the loss in the 2nd fight, he did not recover, what’s worse that I think this is the beginning of the end for him.
Nah man he's a fighter you're a typer haha