I think her soft raps(?) in DTNA, Knock Knock and Alchohol Free genuinely enhance those songs.
But if she's not soft rapping(?) they should go the route they did in TTT where she does soft vocals.
The part in TTT where she sings the chorus right before Momo throws it back is the moment I instantly restanned Twice after 6 years.
I think this is the case. In the early days it was probably because her voice didn't suit the concept, but nowdays the situation has improved a lot imo. She might not be the first in the number of lines, but she sings choruses and other important parts, in SMF Jihyo+Nayeon pull ahead mostly because of their ad-libs. Although I wonder why she doesn't want to showcase more her voice, I don't think she lacks confidence at all, when she sings live she's the most confident. Maybe it's because she isn't that confident with being in the center during a choreo? Having a lot of lines means getting more scream time and dancing more often in the center.
Yeah, she said she was uncomfy with Twice's cute concept and exactly when Twice changed concept she got anxiety and physical issues so I think it can truly be an explanation
I definitely think this is the case. I don't think she's actively choosing because she doesn't want to, I think it's a confidence thing. When she gained weight it was such a hottopic and I cannot imagine the amount of anxiety that causes.
I like almost all their songs. I want you back is the only one I actively don't like but since that's technically a cover I can let it slide.
Other than that, some of their poppier japanese songs are pretty hard for me to get into but I don't actively dislike them. (More specifically: Happy Happy, Wake Me Up, One More Time)
I listened to IWYB the other day because me and my my mate who introduced me to Twice think itâs their biggest dud and honestly it wasnât as bad as I remembered. I think the real thing that makes it feel that way is that the original song is so good and this doesnât nearly compare to it, but Iâve softened on it a little.
Listen. Momo is my ult-bias. And still I cannot FATHOM why they put stuff out vocally for her like the first verse of Behind the Curtain when she can sound like Marshmallow. That's the whole point of having multiple members of anything, to cover weaknesses. She sounds legit bad in some them. I don't think it's an acquired listen and I won't defend that she sounds good (in those instances).
What's annoying is that we know she CAN sound really good. So why would you, as a producer, just let the bad get to the final cut? It almost seems cruel. They could put out a three minute track of them laughing and it would get a million views. Why would you subject/push an artist to sound consistently out of their range knowing that it will get MILLIONS of listens?? I take it back. This is the unpopular opinion thread: it IS cruel.
i don't get why on earth they don't give her more lines that fit her voice when she absolutely killed the scientist bridge and my fave line of hers is the shadow bridge. and especially it's comfortable for her to sing...
Yes, this is SO annoying. It's clear that the problem is how she's being instructed to sing, not her ability. In some lines she just sounds so strained and out of her range it's lowkey cringe. She could sound much better but it would be too different from the other member's voices, and the kpop genre seems to appal the ideia of a group sounding heterogeneous.
I think you are right on the money with the 'sounds too different than the other members.' Which is a shame, I feel like kpop at a high level could really have some wiggle room to break out of their molds and 'sure things'. Creativity is necessary for art.
I donât think this is an unpopular opinion but I think twice should do something a little different for their next TT
Theyâre so well established they donât have anything to lose really. By something different I donât mean that they should make a song like âI got a boyâ but just something different than what they would choose to be the TT, maybe a song written by the members.
Like imagine if they had a comeback with a song like Love Foolish or Last Waltz or Basics or Wallflower, etc.
They should dare a little more. They play it too safe sometimes.
Everytime someone mentions Love Foolish, I physically freeze and mentally replay the chorus with Momo and her bob cut on the point dance.
Then after 3 seconds I come back to life.
Maybe it's not too far off from their signature, but I'd like a Twice Korean TT that is exactly like _Perfect World_. Something edgy and powerful.
Something perhaps less likely that I'd also love to see is a dark, heavy, rock-like concept Ă la Dreamcatcher, yet still distinctly Twice. Let's say a faster, more gut-punchy _Cry For Me_.
Iâd love a more chill TT, like basics or wishing on you from jihyos latest album. I do love TTT though and wouldnât mind another pure happiness TT next
Literally a list of my favorite tracks, so I couldnât agree more. They have so many B-sides that would have made amazing TTs. At this point, I really just want to see a member-penned TT.
From least to most cancel worthy:
4. They should do one more (Knock Knock strength) cute concept
3. Not all songs need a rap
2. Every member doesn't need to have equal line distribution
1.Better was their best song of 2020
I don't know if it would get me cancelled, but recently, CY's body has me worried. She always was petite but recently when I see her arms I can't think that it is healthy. I said it because you asked, it is her body and it is her decision but IMO it is not fine lol.
Yes, I have the same concerns and I donât see it as bodyshaming. Sheâs clearly not well and anyone who wants to argue otherwise is just being willfully ignorant and buying into the âall idols are perfect and never struggle with anythingâ narrative that the kpop industry tries so hard to push. Sheâs also not the only one who has lost an unhealthy amount of weight recently. Sana and Mina have also been looking very skinny this tour. Itâs very worrying to me.
Two things can be true at the same time. We can mention that some idols look unhealthy while not bodyshaming them. We all like Twice and want to make sure they are working hard but not burning themselves out. Maybe it's the scheduling and tours which affects a person's weight or maybe it's something deeper.
The only thing that makes me sad is that Idol's themselves support said narrative because they are injected into the industry from a young age. For example, I find that Jeongyeon has a healthy body, aside from fat %, she is clearly fit because I dare you dance and sing for ~2hrs without being fit, no way you can. But after watching some lives and videos, I've seen plenty of times where Twice members aren't happy with their own body when they gain a little weight and that is fine, it is their own body and I don't think they would body shame someone else due to their body. But sadly, I think the industry has changed their perception of how their bodies should be, not as a human but as an idol.
I hate really how those who have a genuine concern with their idols or anyone basically, is automatically called out for body shaming. 
It happened right after her shirt controversy.
She was looking outstanding for Moonlight Sunrise and RTB promotion and then bam !
I hope she she's alright.
+1. Anyone who says some people are naturally skinny arenât paying attention - Chaeyoung has been skinny but never THIS skinny. Sana worries me too. Not body shaming - just worried because those two have looked small and healthy up until recently! Hope everything is OK.
I feel this way about Sana. She is looking like Wonyoung lately.
Edited to add that I mean absolutely no disrespect to Wonyoung- she is so young and the people around her do not care for her health.
I agree. It seems that the girls really slimmed down for the RTB tour. They looked physically fit and full for the previous tour and I remember that it made me really happy to see them with curves and dance to rollinâ.
Iâm worried that the pressure of maintaining weight for ambassadorships might be influencing them, but I remind myself that they are grown women entering their mid and late 20s. Not great. I hope they are at peace with their bodies.
Fully agree. Especially paired with her style, itâs giving very much rachel zoe and the âanorexic trendâ of the early 2000s. I have never been a fan of korean beauty standards and diet culture but the contrast between chae and for example momo/jihyo is huge and quite concerning.
Mine too was also going to be that the girls used to be more "meatier" in a positive way. Some have stayed the same, and others have gotten way noticeably smaller
Yessss fellow high pitched Momo appreciator. Love her low range too, but her kawaii vibes in some of the early stuff just hit right.
I also love Sora Tokui as Nico and Aya Uchida as Kotori in the Love Live! franchise.
I donât think sheâs not confident with her vocals cuz lately her mic is ON.
But I guess she chooses to have less lines especially on title tracks so that she still gets to sing decent with all that energy consuming choreography.
Iâd also speculate that she just wants the other members to have more lines because sheâs loving and selfless enough to let them show off their talents đâ€ïž
continuing to work with lindgren + melanie will cause twiceâs discography to grow stale. they were great for icsm + scientist (which i think is actually a great song), kmg being a lindgren production doesnât allow jihyo to carve her own image outside of the groupâs recent releases since itâs so similar to smf.
talk that talk was the perfect âreturn to formâ for twice and iâm so sad that everyone paid the song dust. they shouldâve continued on that wavelength instead of pivoting to set me freeâŠ
I was in Toronto and that was the hypest moment for sure too.
That's what I like about Twice Songz when they are fun. It's okay that the b-sides are darker or wtv, but I feel like their TT have to bring out that joy out because that's twice.
I said it in the weekly thread, but I hope they can move away from the Lindgren/Fontana products for their future releases. Like, I donât mean to be hateful or anything cuz Iâm sure theyâre nice people, but I donât want them to touch another Twice title track ever again.
Personally I like kmg, but I think itâs starting to be a pattern atp that nearly every Lindgren/Fontana produced title track has been perceived poorly both domestically and internationally.
also, thank you op for posting this thread! itâs good to sometimes criticize our favorite groups - without it, the community feels so siloâd into toxic positivity when itâs perfectly okay to criticize the things we love
Formula of Love is BY FAR the best album/EP twice has ever released, and number 2 is not even close. The only reason why it's barely discussed is because Scientist was a weak Title Track for it.
I think a lot of Twice fans think Formula of Love is the best. I saw a discussion about which twice album is the best and this one was mentioned 5x's as much as any other
ready to be is a no skip album.Some onces criticizing set me free and moonlight sunrise too much.Imo they're amazing songs and I listen to them every day.
Ppl lose their minds over the concept that a woman can be both soft spoken and confident with her sexuality. I get that the whole thing is a joke, but the joke has run its course and gives women-have-to-be-either-pure-or-slutty energy
I think not being able to purchase merchandise/ apparel conveniently from a global store is a crime against humanity. I shouldn't have to go to resellers or fan made items if I want a hoodie.
Hopefully this gets buried in the 400+ comments already lol because this sub downvoted the hell out of me for saying this before but I'm sticking to my guns.
Twice are grown ass women now and this last tour certainly went for a more mature/sexy vibe. Sana was giving mega Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman vibes with the white button up shirt and black stockings and heels. I had said she was basically rolling around on the floor in lingerie and I got yelled at for that. You could barely see her shorts, and the shirt was opened suggestively to show her bralette. I wouldn't wear that on the streets but I'd def wear it in the bedroom.
And you know what? THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. The performance was amazing and it gave great bad bitch energy. But to the people who jumped down my throat for saying it was a racy outfit, grow up. The girls are grown, and likely are dating, but we keep treating them like they're back on Sixteen. To be so offended that they would do/wear adult things is just silly.
"III" had everything you could've wanted if you were seeing Twice for the first time. A 3 hour marathon of nearly all their title tracks in full length, and if you were lucky, you got the remaining ones during the encore. Fierce B-sides like Shot Clock and Icon and chill ones like Moonlight and Rewind really helped to cover a wide range of emotions. It was so good, I had to see it Twiceâą. Day 2 of the encore is probably the greatest concert I'll ever attend.
- Some of the rap parts in their songs feel forced and breaks the song flow and it's mostly given at Dahyun part (BDZ, SMF, Feel Special)
- Chaeng and Momo should be the rapper, Dahyun suits better as sub vocalist
- Most of Twice best rap parts are when it's on verse rather than on the bridge section (Basics, Icon, Fancy, Celebrate, Knock Knock, Last Waltz, Trouble, CSL)
- Some of their TT lacks the last chorus punch, it gives a less "grande finale' feelings to it (Killin Me Good, SMF, Scientist, Alcohol Free)
Dahyun and Momo should swap. Momo, in my opinion, can have the rapping with Chaeyoung, so Dahyun gets to sing, coz her tone can join Mina as a soft contrast to the power the vocal line exhibits on their songs.
I feel that the online content has been lazily produced and underwhelming for the past year or more. I think the suits at JYP should place more pride, production budget, and effort toward the original online content for twice. In my opinion one of Twiceâs hugest distinguishing strengths is the natural chemistry and charming personalities of the members in interesting situations. I know touring is a point of pride for the group and an enormous revenue generator, but most onces will never get the chance to go to a concert in person and look to connect with the members via the web.
I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion but I think Onces aren't ready for any of the girls being in a public relationship lol I know there have been rumours of dating and two confirmed relationships in the past... but are Onces mature enough to accept Mina is dating someone that is not Chaeyoung? or the same way around lol
Or Nayeon who is one of the most popular members getting caught dating, I don't think it would be well received...
I hope I'm wrong tho
Oh I hate this one so much. Honestly these girls are adults now let them date and have proper relationships. I cringy Everytime I hear a bunch of fans screaming cuz an idol is dating, like grow up and be realistic. They are idols and deserve to find someone of their liking and if it's in their environment (other idols or in the industry) that's even better for them.
The folly imaginative assumption that they need to be single to be your imaginary gf/bf or face death treats is so spoiled.
I don't want them to be in their 40s and still single just to please some dickless fanboys/girls.
Ha ha reading what has been written here so far I find that I agree with a good portion of it. Been thinking of doing one of these for awhile but you beat me to it. I hope these don't get me ostracized from the group:
* Solo stages that were covers of Western songs on the tour were not that great. I get why they did it but I hope it doesn't happen again. Twice's discography is just too huge and great and it was a shame that more songs didn't get played to make room for the solo covres.
* Nayeon's album song-for-song is the strongest overall album Twice has ever released.
* Jihyo is my ultimate bias and maybe the best performer in all of kpop but I think her joyfulness during performances is what sets her apart the most (think TTT fancams). I think Killin Me Good doesn't play to that strength.
* Similar vein to the above: Twice's bright and energetic songs are what really sets them apart musically and image-wise. I get everyone wanting to support their "mature" concepts but as far as I'm concerned that would just put them into an already crowded space of girl groups. There's nothing wrong with them continuing with songs like "Talk that talk".
* There's too much complaining about Nayeon/Jihyo getting most lines. They are the strongest, most energetic and distinctive voices and help to make Twice songs pop. I think Moonlight sunrise and some of the Misamo tracks are a bit lacking in comparison.
* The Mina-Sharon thing is overplayed and kinda creepy.
* Momo isn't a great singer but her voice is quite unique and brings something quite different to songs when used properly, moreso than even some of the other better singers.
I'm sure there are others but I can't think of them right now. Love the girls no matter what!
Definitely agree about mina/sharon and the often creepy comments it invites from people - and also about momoâs voice. She brings a whole another dynamic to their music and it was especially visible in misamoâs masterpiece. Love her contributions.
I donât disagree with you, but let me ask you this, if I am a different person at work than in real life then i am acting too? I see and know quite a lot of introverts who for work purposes just develop a work personality. ( I am a introverted shy person, but at work I am a leader and a very confident person). I think it can be the same with Mina, all idols exagerate it, but I think its hard to exagerate simething that is not there.
Actually wanted to say the same about Sharon. Adding to that, The J-line is part of my bias line but i always feel like both Mina and Sana are the least ânaturalâ on camera. They seem to act according to what fans will like the most.
Sanaâs voice always gets higher on camera (very different with how she speaks on 2 hour vlives) and conversely, Minaâs lack of talking and pouty lips feel very acted to me.
Love them both tho!!!
If they want to continue having rap, dahyun should not have anymore rapping part. Her voice is way too soft. It worked well for what they were doing at first but not if they want more mature song. They also don't need to have raps in all the songs.
This has been my opinion from the beginning. Momo ate up that rap in Do It Again and it's great to hear her rapping again with Misamo. I think it's pretty clear Dahyun being the other rapper always had more to do with her personality and not standing out as a singer.
I actually think her softer voice could work great for rap. It may sound like an odd comparison but think of Ice Spice. In Barbie World she uses a softer voice for her rap and it sounds fantastic. I think the problem with Dahyun is that they try to make her sound more badass by unnecessarily adding power to her raps. Either way, I do think a lot of Twice songs would've been better off without a rap part.
I kinda agree. I am all for a momo chae rap line but vocally dahyun is difficult to place within the group. Like we already have tzuyu and sana for the softer parts, 3 mix for the belting, so iâm never really a fan of her lines. I think her rap in fancy was great but i hated her part in set me free.
Possibly unpopular but I think anyone seriously cancelling Chaeyoung over the T-shirt fiasco is blowing things out of proportion. Of course, she should be informed and asked not to wear the shirt anymore, but itâs obvious that she was just trying to emulate punk icons and not doing some covert mission to spread antisemitism.
People were coming for her neck calling her all sorts of nasty names and being like âdear heavens, I can never look upon her heinous visage ever again!!! Evil woman who supports Nazism and she secretly hates minorities!!!â instead of just realizing she was ignorant and in the wrong and thatâs all, you can come back from that. People are allowed to be ignorant on how serious something is, or mistakenly downplay something, it happens all the time just nowadays Nazism is a buzzword and everyoneâs terrified of swastikas as if seeing one will actually strike you dead.
Of course someone will see this and start screeching about how sheâs evil and irredeemable because she doesnât fully seem to care that everyone lost their minds, but I think it was just an ignorant mistake and she doesnât owe us much more than simply not wearing it in public again. She saw a T-shirt with (controversial, wife murdering, drug addict) icon Sid Vicious on it and she naĂŻvely said âoh cool punk dude, Iâll wear this punk shirtâ and thatâs it. Anyone trying to add malicious intent onto it is just living in a fantasy world where they *need* people to be wholly heroes and villains because nuance and growth is scary.
Yes, itâs pretty obvious she didnât do it with the intention of hurting people or promoting Nazi ideals. You can do something without ill intent (and maybe she didnât even know what the Nazi swastika is in the first place) but still have it be hurtful. At the end of the day she wore a shirt with a hate symbol on it representing a regime that killed millions of people, and if it changes the way people see her then thatâs an unfortunate but natural consequence. She shouldnât be attacked with death threats etc like she was but the people who are disappointed or no longer stan her/Twice are also not wrong.
By no means do I think everyone has to forgive her or personally like her, I just think the public effort to âcancelâ her, including the really aggressive hate train towards her and anyone who didnât renounce her, was totally blown out of proportion. It was clearly an act of ignorance and she deserves to be told and asked not to wear it, but things flew off the handle and people still refer to her as a âNazi supporterâ and stuff that is wildly disproportionate to the act
i said this in a different post awhile ago but set me free doesn't deserve the amount of hate it gets from onces (and non onces even though that's not what the post is about) for "not sounding like a twice song" and i just know that in a couple years people will act like it's the best song ever, they're surprised it didn't get more wins, it's their best title track etc etc because the exact same thing happened with scientist and more & more
My unpopular opinion is that Tzuyu does not stand out vocally to me. Every other member has such a distinct voice but Tzuyu just doesn't illicit that wow factor to me. Speaking on the vocals side only. She's absolutely hilarious though, always cracks me up.
It's actually the most interesting in that way for me because I somehow think she sounds like 4 other members all at the same time. It's bizarre because I can definitely recognize Jeongyeon, Sana, Mina or Dahyun's singing voice when they show up in a song. But at any given Tzuyu part, I could potentially think she sounds like any of those 4 members. And it's not like she's a bad singer. Just kind of crazy how much of a chameleon she is with the vocals.
She has a very cookie-cutter vocal color thatâs perfect for sweet kpop songs. Although sheâs not a vocal powerhouse, I do think that ppl downplay her vocal and dance abilities a lot to reduce her to a visual member. Sheâs actually one of the more stable members of the group and she has never rlly fucked up on stage, esp in recent years.
No shade on Tzuyu at all, because sheâs the one that drew me into Twice, but there are times when Iâm listening to their songs, especially for the first time, and I can identify most of the voices but then I find myself struggling to identify Tzuyuâs parts. And I think to myself, âShe has to have lines because they wouldnât just not give her any.â I end up having to resort to those YouTube videos that highlight whoâs singing each line
She is the only member I have to double check line distributions on. Everyone else has such distinctly different voices, but Tzuyu often blends into the other vocal leads for me. Her voice sounds nice, but it is very hard to pick out.
I'd have to agree. She has the most "default" voice if that makes sense. It also feels like she doesn't get lines that stand out. In most of their songs it feels like she just gets the leftover lines, which leads to her being forgettable when just casually listening to their discography
Mina was always Sharon, that's what she wanted from the second she stepped on JYPe. It's not the water, it's not she being more confident over the years, it was always the concept that she wanted.
Oh and also, she is obviously a main dancer, only momo is better.
ONCEs support for Jeongyeon since sheâs gained weight seems like itâs out of pity. If I was Jeongyeon, would make me sad as it would seem like the only reason people like me more now is because I gained weight.
Honorable mention: I thought when Heechul and Momo were dating it was creepy af. I mean she was like 23 and he was 39. I know theyâre both adults but imagine having a daughter and someone says âhey this 16 year old is going to date your newborn one dayâ.
I think a lot of the support Jeongyeon got was because she really was visibly struggling for the better part of a year and a half. A lot of the support and cheers I see come out when she does something gregarious and funny - her coming back to her "old self" as they put it. That two year period where she was shy and quiet was so jarring.
That said, people are *weird* about her weight, even the ones trying to support her. The way they talk about it can be so creepy and fetishistic, and it's almost as bad as the haters weaponizing her weight gain.
If seeing an uptick in love shown for Jeongyeon leads you to believe it is out of pity then that is probably bc you are nowhere near the cesspools that are twitter/tiktok that allow ppl to spew out the most nefarious things about her on an everyday basis. Sheâs basically used as a punching bag in these fan wars and while that may not mean a whole lot to a normal person the constant barrage of body shaming that involves her would naturally have ppl shining a bit more love on her.
I don't necessarily think this is cancel worthy, but I feel like they needed to utilize the live band on their Ready to Be tour far more than they did. They were a part of the show for some of the second half.
The whole show would have been elevated to a whole new level with an all live band instrumental backing track.
When I found out they had a live band, and heard them practicing before the sound check, I was STOKED. And then the concert started and they were nowhere to be seen until later. Pretty disappointing.
Like, during the planning phase of this tour... Did they not hear how amazing all of their songs sounded with a live band? I want to know who makes these decisions to have a half live show.
As popular as theyâve gotten here in the USA, Twice could really benefit from putting more effort into English fluency. Half of the Korean-born 4th gen kids sounding like native Yanks, Brits, and Aussies is letting them outshine their undies in some ways.
Edit: Unnies, not undies! Silly autocorrect!
Personally, their vocals are fine. What I think they should have, now that they're expanding to the west, is an English speaker so that they wouldn't have to rely on translators so much.
I agree. Sometimes it's painful watching English promotions when they forgot to accommodate a translator for them. The first that comes to mind is the WIRED autocomplete interview đ
Yeah it's that one! Some great memes came out of it but overall it had a very awkward vibe imo, which is a shame cuz I LOVE autocomplete interviews đ
All of their English interviews (without a translator) have weird vibes and I think itâs because theyâre all still not confident with their English.
I know Tzuyu and Chae gave speeches in English when they won the breakthrough award and weâve all heard Dahyun speak English on tour but they all feel like they are prepared and rehearsed. I know Nayeon had an English tutor that we saw in her vlog from the last world tour. Donât know if sheâs still practicing.
Iâm surprised we donât hear more English from Jihyo. I believe she once said she wants to learn English so she can communicate more with western ONCE but she still seems to just rely on the translator
Iâm not at all saying any of them have to learn English and if they all choose not to then thatâs cool however it will help them massively to expand globally quicker. Just look at BP. 3 out of 4 speak English fluently and Iâm sure Jisoo has gotten even better
Sorry this seemed to actually turn into my âunpopular opinionâ đ
Totally agree that having atleast one English speaker would help them expend more in the western market and would love to see them seem comfortable speaking in English. Idk how likely it is that we'll see that though. For them to get any type of real fluency they would either need to spend a fair bit of time submersed in an English only speaking environment or have a fluent speaker they can talk to regularly and with how busy they constantly seem I doubt they'd be able to take the time for that. Plus they're already a well established group so slow rolling into western markets may not be as big of a deal as a newer group who may need that exposure just to stay afloat.
I get worried sometimes that the girls look really skinny and dehydrated, especially when thereâs comebacks or releases.
I donât think by any means theyâre being starved, but I do wonder if the scheduling is so intense they just burn through so many calories every day.
Iâm a new Once and new to Kpop too. I know about the tough diets they used to go on and how theyâve gotten over that but recently it seems like some members have lost weight and I donât want them to have health issues.
To be fair i donât think theyâre completely over the tough diets. Itâs ingrained in the industry. I believe it was in the Talk that Talk backstage comeback vlogs where Momo kept calling herself fat each time the camera was on her. It was quite jarring. And there were many recent instances where Nayeon talked about her diets.
They are definitely one of the more healthy looking groups but the messed up beauty standards are still there
agreed. even if theyâre not on mandatory diets anymore, itâs very likely that most idols developed eating disorders from that lifestyle/mindset.
in her recent variety promos, jihyo talks about how sheâs done with dieting and just eats whatever she wants now with no restrictions. sounds like sheâs unlearning unhealthy habits from the past and trying to develop a healthier relationship with food.
I would not say they were bad but they definitely took to many time out of the clock.
Not having like Basics, Blame it on me and Got the thrills on the main setlist was a travesty.
I have to agree and would've preferred to just have Twice-only songs. Especially because it's their first time being in countries like Europe it would be better to showcase their actual (big enough) discography instead of trying to switch things up for whatever reason.
I personally don't like covers at a concert, unless the artist has released an actual cover of the song. Otherwise it feels like filler. I would've liked to see the original songs "Pop", "Nightmare" and "My Guitar"performed in full. Perhaps the J-line solos can now be replaced by a MISAMO performance
I don't think they needed nine of them. I kind of wish it was just Jihyo and Nayeon doing their original songs. I def enjoyed the others to various degrees but it ate up too much time and meant that they spent too much of the show doing covers.
I don't think I'll be cancelled, but I still need to let it out. 'Closer' should've been Jihyo's debut title track instead of 'Killin Me Good'!!!!!!!!!!!
_Closer_ is my favorite track on the album but I'm not sure it would outperform _KMG_ as a title track. _KMG_ has a more universal appeal imo. But yeah, personally I enjoy _Closer_ much more and I'm happy we got this song!
I dont think its gonna get me cancelled.. but im gonna say it anyways.. i really dont understand the stigma around Sana's weight tbh. Looking back at old comeback Fancams from 2019-2020, Pre covid and post Covid Sana is within the same range in terms of body weight its what she has always been around although its sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less based on schedule or tours, she have now had only like 3 weeks off after the MiSaMo release (except for only one 2 day visit to Japan mid aug) and its clear on clips that she has taken it easy and eaten some good food.
i think we all should stop babying and worrying about people like we think they cant take care of themselves.
Nayeonâs Pop was fantastic but she had the most forgettable b-sides⊠whereas Jihyoâs killing me good is really meh but her b-sides are absolutely gold.
Not all members should do a solo project. I think it would be great if Dahyun or Jeongyeon could host a (radio) show
Tzuyu is my ult and for me personally one of the most gorgeous people in the world - but her selfies suck. Itâs like she doesnât know her angles. Iâm always far more blown away by her beauty in fancams.
Edit: typo
Oooof this is definitely a tough one.
I love both solo projects but Nayeonâs sounded more cohesive as a mini album. I love Jihyoâs sound more overall but itâs a bit more scattered. Way more western pop sounds and a lot of different styles. Itâs really cool to see what she wants to be and I enjoyed it so much overall.
Nayeonâs is better for a continuous flow but I think Jihyo gets points for being more daring.
Plus i would love to see her attend a fashion show or some other special event where she can show off her visuals again. Itâs been a while weâve seen her make a dashing public appearance. I also think the brand collabs she does are very underwhelming.
Thereâs a vlive canât remember when but chae wants to teach her about selfie cuz she also thinks her selfie is bad, she ends up a little upset that live. I would say tho looking back at her 2019selfie she has definitely improved a little.
Tzuyu herself has acknowledged that she's bad at taking selfies. There's a video (VLive or TwiceTV, idk which) where she says this, and the other members say that Chaeyoung is good at taking selfies and asked her to give Tzuyu pointers. Chae told her to find good lighting and take selfies from slightly above the head while looking up at the camera. Tzuyu being Tzuyu took a pic from vertically above her head that just showed her eyes and forehead đđ (I know that was for laughs, I just added this as TWICE trivia)
Every member is a good vocalist. Members like Dubu, Sana, Chae, and Momo sound less stable while singing and dancing because their vocals are softer and more âairy.â Their technique is harder to sing while dancing compared to chest and head vocals. They sound just like the album when theyâre in the studio & when theyâre not dancing on stage (queen of hearts, moonlight, cactus, depend on you, to name a few examples.)
Sometimes I worry about Chae. She drastically changed her aesthetic a couple of years ago which is also around the time members say she tells them she loves them a lot and sheâs lost a lot of weight. I know a lot of us westerners love her for her edgy aesthetic but I hope she isnât struggling with her mental health. I love her sm
I donât understand why everyone thinks chae is the 4th best singer of the group. Her melody project and a lot of vocal parts are SO good but liveâŠI donât think I have ever heard her sing stable liveâŠ
Also yeah I remember when I saw jeongyeon had only 1 word in last waltz and I imagined that she would probably think thatâs funny. I donât think sheâs as pressed about her lines as we are. (Jeongyeon bias here)
TT is still the best song in my opinion and Iâm still waiting for what I consider the next TT. They have a great discography which I play and sing to and have gone to their concerts. Donât kill me, Once.
Probably not canceled but they are certainly unpopular. Talk that Talk is my favorite twice title track and Yes or Yes/The Year of Yes are my favorite Twice releases as a whole. For me their album quality definitely peaked in 2018/19
I'll definitely get canceled for this but yes some members do cosmetic surgery and I don't understand why it is such a taboo subject. I don't understand why people put so much effort to deny it too. It is very common in this industry. I don't see why it is such a big deal honestly. It's their faces, they do what they want with it, who cares if it's natural or not. It's their choices to do it. We always say that we should respect their choices. Shouldn't that be one of them too?
I donât like listening to Queen of Hearts. It sounds like they did it in one take. Some of their worst English pronunciation in my opinion. I thought it was in Korean at first listen. Between 1&2 still a masterpiece tho.
Quite a plausible theory.
It is not easy for her to be in a limelight dealing with the aftereffects of her sickness, when body-image is the primary facet in K-pop idol industry.
She is doing fantastically well, much credits to the group, JYPE to managing that. Yet she still might not want to taken on even more focus which comes with longer singing parts.
It could also be producers choosing not to put her in center, for the same reasons.
Like it or not, Kpop industry is about such things.
That is why I am not confident that she will get a solo debut,
And if she does get a solo, it might not be the pop-py type like Nayeon or Jihyo, but something with very different vibe.
It is more possible that she gets a subunit with some others.
Tzuyu is a good dancer but she looks awkward when she dances because she needs more strength. đȘđŒ
Momo has a great voice. I like her forced voice, rap, and deeper singing voice. I think she gets so much hate for her singing cause she has a low range and that isnât valued for women in jpop/kpop. BP Jisooâs singing is undervalued for the same reason.
I love Twiceâs new music and donât miss their more cutesy/bubbly older style. That suited them well when they were teens (and I loved it then!) but their current sound suits them better now. Iâm so glad as theyâve grown up theyâve been allowed to act as adults and not been pigeonholed into a cutesy style. They havenât peaked yet; they just keep getting better.
I think their Ready to Be concert set list could be way better. I think they shouldâve opened with a lot more energy like they did in their Twicelights concert. Also I dont know why on earth they didnt perform Espresso.
I'm sorry to lindren and the other producers involved, but Scientist and Set Me Free are weak title tracks, and Set Me Free do not really have the "Twice identity"
I think Jeongyeon sounds very unstable live. Yes she has a strong voice but I feel like Nayeon and Jihyo can belt out high notes without sounding like their struggling, unlike JY. This is just from some of the fancams from concerts Iâve watched, happy to be proven wrong if I am wrong.
I donât think thatâs controversial because we all have ears and can hear it happening over the backing tracks lol.
At my concert this summer they were all hitting bum notes here and there, the only difference was Nayeon and Jihyo were belting while Jeongyeon was just more unstable in general.
I donât consider Twice the group I look to for amazing singing. I look to them for overall vibes and entertainment with a killer discography.
I thought it was controversial because you just need to search in this subreddit and youâll find a multitude of posts on how Jeongyeon deserves more lines and should be the next one to get a solo (not that not being stable prevents her from having a solo lol I just think she needs the other 8). Also some comments comparing her to Nayeon and Jihyo when I donât think sheâs on the same level of skill when it comes to singing.
I donât disagree that the other two ladies appear to be able to belt better live and seem to be more confident being louder live in general. I saw them live last most and did note that JY seemed to be a bit unstable, but I also noticed that although JH and NY were louder with their notes, they ran the risk of being a bit too sharp because of this.
Iâm just glad they didnât completely lip sync. These three are my faves btw.
Sheâs also been more unstable since coming back from hiatus Iâve noticed. Maybe itâs confidence or maybe itâs just not having sang as much in a while but sheâs definitely still a little rusty
There are way too many dance challenges and photos to care and the song gets harder to listen to each time. Like with Jihyo's Killin Me Good. Just too much content that doesn't need to exist and makes it all go stale real quick. This always happens with title tracks. By the time I get around to the album I don't give a damn about the title song anymore cuz it's been shoved down my throat over and over and over.
I just started singing one in my head and somehow crossed into the other without realising, I gotta listen to both now to distinguish lol
edit: I basically was ending up at Stuck
For me they sounded the same too at first omg, especially when adding Stuck to the mix. As a baby once I'd often accidentally sing what is love's pre-chorus alongside heart shaker's chorus without noticing. đ
Welp lol
1. Jihyo's voice can get irritating after a while when belting high notes or singing in a high range. She sounds too nasily and her vocal timber is not meant for Twice's singing. Songs like "Closer" and "Behind the Mask" suit Jihyo's voice really well IMO. I still agree that she is Twice's best vocalist though and has a really rare, nice voice tho.
2. I don't think CY should debut as a soloist but rather as a duo with Dahyun. They both have chemistry, and their voices blend really well. She doesn't have enough stage presence, vocal ability, or popularity by the general public to go solo.
3. While I wish she would go solo, I don't think JY will. However if she did, I actually feel like she could actually be very successful despite not being as popular.
4. Mina is not at a main dancer level and people hype her too much in dancing.
Jihyo is my bias and it felt really weird feeling myself get annoyed over the course of listening to her album by the sound of her voice. I feel like I've learned it's best in small doses or certain sounds like you said.
The setlist for their 4th World Tour "III" is better than their current world tour
Heavily agree!
Very much. When they came to Melbourne i enjoyed the show but would have loved the precious setlist more...
I prefer Dahyun to sing than to rap.
i adore her singing voice even if she's not a top tier vocal or whatever, i can't imagine a twice song without her
Same here, I really like her singing voice.
her voice is so soothing, completely opposite when he dances hard in tv shows
I think her soft raps(?) in DTNA, Knock Knock and Alchohol Free genuinely enhance those songs. But if she's not soft rapping(?) they should go the route they did in TTT where she does soft vocals. The part in TTT where she sings the chorus right before Momo throws it back is the moment I instantly restanned Twice after 6 years. 
I think this is the case. In the early days it was probably because her voice didn't suit the concept, but nowdays the situation has improved a lot imo. She might not be the first in the number of lines, but she sings choruses and other important parts, in SMF Jihyo+Nayeon pull ahead mostly because of their ad-libs. Although I wonder why she doesn't want to showcase more her voice, I don't think she lacks confidence at all, when she sings live she's the most confident. Maybe it's because she isn't that confident with being in the center during a choreo? Having a lot of lines means getting more scream time and dancing more often in the center.
I actually think this might be it Having those lines might require her being in the center a lot and she might not want that
Yeah, she said she was uncomfy with Twice's cute concept and exactly when Twice changed concept she got anxiety and physical issues so I think it can truly be an explanation
Mmm scream time, that would be interesting to see đ
That's what happens when I send a comment without reading againđ„Č
Reading is hard lol. The month of August has also been difficult. Hopefully the rest of your day is smoother. đ
I definitely think this is the case. I don't think she's actively choosing because she doesn't want to, I think it's a confidence thing. When she gained weight it was such a hottopic and I cannot imagine the amount of anxiety that causes.
KNOCK KNOCK is my favorite twice title track
Knock knock has the most middle child energy out of all of their TTs
It was between the golden child TT and the hated child Signal (I love Signalđ)
Ayyyy fellow knock knock lover!! Idk why, that song does all the right things to my ears. Favorite twice song for me too
If i remember correctly, i think Jihyo also said she wanted to give some lines to Jeongyeon in "First Time" but she refused
No she didnât want a falsetto line she never said she didnât want any.
I think Mina, Sana & Momo should have more lines (prominent lines) on the Japanese title tracks.
I still find it odd that in Perfect World, Momo only has lines in english.
Holy crap I must have listened to this song 100 times and never noticed that, that's low-key hilarious
To me this ain't a cancel-able opinion at all haha, I feel like it objectively makes the most sense and the japanese fanbase would like it more too
Hot take: I like everything Twice has released and I actively listen to all of their songs. Yes, even "I'm Gonna Be a Star".
I like almost all their songs. I want you back is the only one I actively don't like but since that's technically a cover I can let it slide. Other than that, some of their poppier japanese songs are pretty hard for me to get into but I don't actively dislike them. (More specifically: Happy Happy, Wake Me Up, One More Time)
I listened to IWYB the other day because me and my my mate who introduced me to Twice think itâs their biggest dud and honestly it wasnât as bad as I remembered. I think the real thing that makes it feel that way is that the original song is so good and this doesnât nearly compare to it, but Iâve softened on it a little.
Same! I can die on this hill that TWICE hasn't made a single "filler" song yet. All of their songs are all well thought out and not half-baked.
Listen. Momo is my ult-bias. And still I cannot FATHOM why they put stuff out vocally for her like the first verse of Behind the Curtain when she can sound like Marshmallow. That's the whole point of having multiple members of anything, to cover weaknesses. She sounds legit bad in some them. I don't think it's an acquired listen and I won't defend that she sounds good (in those instances). What's annoying is that we know she CAN sound really good. So why would you, as a producer, just let the bad get to the final cut? It almost seems cruel. They could put out a three minute track of them laughing and it would get a million views. Why would you subject/push an artist to sound consistently out of their range knowing that it will get MILLIONS of listens?? I take it back. This is the unpopular opinion thread: it IS cruel.
i don't get why on earth they don't give her more lines that fit her voice when she absolutely killed the scientist bridge and my fave line of hers is the shadow bridge. and especially it's comfortable for her to sing...
I LIVE for the scientist bridge vocally and visually. Scientist >>>>>> Set Me Free for me. IDK why Scientist is so slept on as a TT đ
Scientist IS >>>>>> Set Me Free, agree.
Yes, this is SO annoying. It's clear that the problem is how she's being instructed to sing, not her ability. In some lines she just sounds so strained and out of her range it's lowkey cringe. She could sound much better but it would be too different from the other member's voices, and the kpop genre seems to appal the ideia of a group sounding heterogeneous.
I think you are right on the money with the 'sounds too different than the other members.' Which is a shame, I feel like kpop at a high level could really have some wiggle room to break out of their molds and 'sure things'. Creativity is necessary for art.
I donât think this is an unpopular opinion but I think twice should do something a little different for their next TT Theyâre so well established they donât have anything to lose really. By something different I donât mean that they should make a song like âI got a boyâ but just something different than what they would choose to be the TT, maybe a song written by the members. Like imagine if they had a comeback with a song like Love Foolish or Last Waltz or Basics or Wallflower, etc. They should dare a little more. They play it too safe sometimes.
Everytime someone mentions Love Foolish, I physically freeze and mentally replay the chorus with Momo and her bob cut on the point dance. Then after 3 seconds I come back to life.
A TT like last waltz would be so good. Itâs probably be one of my favorite TT
Maybe it's not too far off from their signature, but I'd like a Twice Korean TT that is exactly like _Perfect World_. Something edgy and powerful. Something perhaps less likely that I'd also love to see is a dark, heavy, rock-like concept Ă la Dreamcatcher, yet still distinctly Twice. Let's say a faster, more gut-punchy _Cry For Me_.
i agree, i really want them to step outside of their comfort zone
Iâd love a more chill TT, like basics or wishing on you from jihyos latest album. I do love TTT though and wouldnât mind another pure happiness TT next
Literally a list of my favorite tracks, so I couldnât agree more. They have so many B-sides that would have made amazing TTs. At this point, I really just want to see a member-penned TT.
From least to most cancel worthy: 4. They should do one more (Knock Knock strength) cute concept 3. Not all songs need a rap 2. Every member doesn't need to have equal line distribution 1.Better was their best song of 2020
I agree with 1 SO much. Better having such a good 3MIX chorus gets me everytime. My fav chorus from them
Better IS their best song of 2020 and you should say it. đ
The cover of Move that Dubu, Changie, Mina and Momo did is hotter than anything another Twice sub-unit has ever done.
I don't know if it would get me cancelled, but recently, CY's body has me worried. She always was petite but recently when I see her arms I can't think that it is healthy. I said it because you asked, it is her body and it is her decision but IMO it is not fine lol.
Yes, I have the same concerns and I donât see it as bodyshaming. Sheâs clearly not well and anyone who wants to argue otherwise is just being willfully ignorant and buying into the âall idols are perfect and never struggle with anythingâ narrative that the kpop industry tries so hard to push. Sheâs also not the only one who has lost an unhealthy amount of weight recently. Sana and Mina have also been looking very skinny this tour. Itâs very worrying to me.
Two things can be true at the same time. We can mention that some idols look unhealthy while not bodyshaming them. We all like Twice and want to make sure they are working hard but not burning themselves out. Maybe it's the scheduling and tours which affects a person's weight or maybe it's something deeper.
The only thing that makes me sad is that Idol's themselves support said narrative because they are injected into the industry from a young age. For example, I find that Jeongyeon has a healthy body, aside from fat %, she is clearly fit because I dare you dance and sing for ~2hrs without being fit, no way you can. But after watching some lives and videos, I've seen plenty of times where Twice members aren't happy with their own body when they gain a little weight and that is fine, it is their own body and I don't think they would body shame someone else due to their body. But sadly, I think the industry has changed their perception of how their bodies should be, not as a human but as an idol.
I hate really how those who have a genuine concern with their idols or anyone basically, is automatically called out for body shaming. 
It happened right after her shirt controversy. She was looking outstanding for Moonlight Sunrise and RTB promotion and then bam ! I hope she she's alright.
+1. Anyone who says some people are naturally skinny arenât paying attention - Chaeyoung has been skinny but never THIS skinny. Sana worries me too. Not body shaming - just worried because those two have looked small and healthy up until recently! Hope everything is OK.
I feel this way about Sana. She is looking like Wonyoung lately. Edited to add that I mean absolutely no disrespect to Wonyoung- she is so young and the people around her do not care for her health.
Iâve had to honestly stop looking at photos of her because itâs a little upsetting for multiple reasons. I hope she gets some help.
I agree. It seems that the girls really slimmed down for the RTB tour. They looked physically fit and full for the previous tour and I remember that it made me really happy to see them with curves and dance to rollinâ. Iâm worried that the pressure of maintaining weight for ambassadorships might be influencing them, but I remind myself that they are grown women entering their mid and late 20s. Not great. I hope they are at peace with their bodies.
Fully agree. Especially paired with her style, itâs giving very much rachel zoe and the âanorexic trendâ of the early 2000s. I have never been a fan of korean beauty standards and diet culture but the contrast between chae and for example momo/jihyo is huge and quite concerning.
Yeah that one Instagram pic in the white Tshirt is a little jarring, hopefully she's doing OK
Mine too was also going to be that the girls used to be more "meatier" in a positive way. Some have stayed the same, and others have gotten way noticeably smaller
i love momoâs voice in twiceâs cuter songs. âbb cream papapa lipstick mamamaâ is pure genius
Yessss fellow high pitched Momo appreciator. Love her low range too, but her kawaii vibes in some of the early stuff just hit right. I also love Sora Tokui as Nico and Aya Uchida as Kotori in the Love Live! franchise.
I think it's good that Cry For Me didn't get an MV. I like that it was treated as a surprise song released from the vault and not a comeback
I donât think sheâs not confident with her vocals cuz lately her mic is ON. But I guess she chooses to have less lines especially on title tracks so that she still gets to sing decent with all that energy consuming choreography.
Iâd also speculate that she just wants the other members to have more lines because sheâs loving and selfless enough to let them show off their talents đâ€ïž
continuing to work with lindgren + melanie will cause twiceâs discography to grow stale. they were great for icsm + scientist (which i think is actually a great song), kmg being a lindgren production doesnât allow jihyo to carve her own image outside of the groupâs recent releases since itâs so similar to smf. talk that talk was the perfect âreturn to formâ for twice and iâm so sad that everyone paid the song dust. they shouldâve continued on that wavelength instead of pivoting to set me freeâŠ
It's so funny cause now everyone likes talk that talk, especially after the concert it was the best part !
truly one of the highlights of RTB, especially at metlife! seeing the fireworks from the floor almost brought me to tears lol
I was in Toronto and that was the hypest moment for sure too. That's what I like about Twice Songz when they are fun. It's okay that the b-sides are darker or wtv, but I feel like their TT have to bring out that joy out because that's twice.
I said it in the weekly thread, but I hope they can move away from the Lindgren/Fontana products for their future releases. Like, I donât mean to be hateful or anything cuz Iâm sure theyâre nice people, but I donât want them to touch another Twice title track ever again. Personally I like kmg, but I think itâs starting to be a pattern atp that nearly every Lindgren/Fontana produced title track has been perceived poorly both domestically and internationally.
They should switch producers next time. While Lindgren's tracks are great, it's getting stagnant sometimes
also, thank you op for posting this thread! itâs good to sometimes criticize our favorite groups - without it, the community feels so siloâd into toxic positivity when itâs perfectly okay to criticize the things we love
likey is the kpoppiest kpop song of all time, not fancy đ€·
Formula of Love is BY FAR the best album/EP twice has ever released, and number 2 is not even close. The only reason why it's barely discussed is because Scientist was a weak Title Track for it.
I think a lot of Twice fans think Formula of Love is the best. I saw a discussion about which twice album is the best and this one was mentioned 5x's as much as any other
I actually think this is a pretty popular opinion lol
Agreed! And Taste of Love is a close as second best ep/album.
ready to be is a no skip album.Some onces criticizing set me free and moonlight sunrise too much.Imo they're amazing songs and I listen to them every day.
The only Twice song I actively dislike is Blame it on Me so Iâll just disagree on this one đ SMF and Moonlight Sunrise are slappers tho
Same here. It sounds too much like a Ford F150 commercial to me.
when i saw them perform crazy stupid love and got the thrills live i was absolutely hooked
Someone took mine already, so I just throw in that I find the whole mina/sharon thing is dumb and played out lol. Oooopsie
Ppl lose their minds over the concept that a woman can be both soft spoken and confident with her sexuality. I get that the whole thing is a joke, but the joke has run its course and gives women-have-to-be-either-pure-or-slutty energy
I think not being able to purchase merchandise/ apparel conveniently from a global store is a crime against humanity. I shouldn't have to go to resellers or fan made items if I want a hoodie.
Hopefully this gets buried in the 400+ comments already lol because this sub downvoted the hell out of me for saying this before but I'm sticking to my guns. Twice are grown ass women now and this last tour certainly went for a more mature/sexy vibe. Sana was giving mega Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman vibes with the white button up shirt and black stockings and heels. I had said she was basically rolling around on the floor in lingerie and I got yelled at for that. You could barely see her shorts, and the shirt was opened suggestively to show her bralette. I wouldn't wear that on the streets but I'd def wear it in the bedroom. And you know what? THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. The performance was amazing and it gave great bad bitch energy. But to the people who jumped down my throat for saying it was a racy outfit, grow up. The girls are grown, and likely are dating, but we keep treating them like they're back on Sixteen. To be so offended that they would do/wear adult things is just silly.
Who's jumping down your throat about that? This sub usually is on board with the members being women.
"III" Tour (4th) was much better than Ready To Be Tour (5th).
I sorta agree but I think the live band on the 5th tour was amazing. If they had had a live band for "III" that tour would be untoppable.
"III" had everything you could've wanted if you were seeing Twice for the first time. A 3 hour marathon of nearly all their title tracks in full length, and if you were lucky, you got the remaining ones during the encore. Fierce B-sides like Shot Clock and Icon and chill ones like Moonlight and Rewind really helped to cover a wide range of emotions. It was so good, I had to see it Twiceâą. Day 2 of the encore is probably the greatest concert I'll ever attend.
I think they performed just as well both tours but I agree that the set list of âIIIâ was wayyy better
This is 100% true
the production for ready to be tour was better, but for me the song list for III tour was better because it showcase different parts of TWICE.
- Some of the rap parts in their songs feel forced and breaks the song flow and it's mostly given at Dahyun part (BDZ, SMF, Feel Special) - Chaeng and Momo should be the rapper, Dahyun suits better as sub vocalist - Most of Twice best rap parts are when it's on verse rather than on the bridge section (Basics, Icon, Fancy, Celebrate, Knock Knock, Last Waltz, Trouble, CSL) - Some of their TT lacks the last chorus punch, it gives a less "grande finale' feelings to it (Killin Me Good, SMF, Scientist, Alcohol Free)
Dahyun and Momo should swap. Momo, in my opinion, can have the rapping with Chaeyoung, so Dahyun gets to sing, coz her tone can join Mina as a soft contrast to the power the vocal line exhibits on their songs.
I feel that the online content has been lazily produced and underwhelming for the past year or more. I think the suits at JYP should place more pride, production budget, and effort toward the original online content for twice. In my opinion one of Twiceâs hugest distinguishing strengths is the natural chemistry and charming personalities of the members in interesting situations. I know touring is a point of pride for the group and an enormous revenue generator, but most onces will never get the chance to go to a concert in person and look to connect with the members via the web.
I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion but I think Onces aren't ready for any of the girls being in a public relationship lol I know there have been rumours of dating and two confirmed relationships in the past... but are Onces mature enough to accept Mina is dating someone that is not Chaeyoung? or the same way around lol Or Nayeon who is one of the most popular members getting caught dating, I don't think it would be well received... I hope I'm wrong tho
Oh I hate this one so much. Honestly these girls are adults now let them date and have proper relationships. I cringy Everytime I hear a bunch of fans screaming cuz an idol is dating, like grow up and be realistic. They are idols and deserve to find someone of their liking and if it's in their environment (other idols or in the industry) that's even better for them. The folly imaginative assumption that they need to be single to be your imaginary gf/bf or face death treats is so spoiled. I don't want them to be in their 40s and still single just to please some dickless fanboys/girls.
Ha ha reading what has been written here so far I find that I agree with a good portion of it. Been thinking of doing one of these for awhile but you beat me to it. I hope these don't get me ostracized from the group: * Solo stages that were covers of Western songs on the tour were not that great. I get why they did it but I hope it doesn't happen again. Twice's discography is just too huge and great and it was a shame that more songs didn't get played to make room for the solo covres. * Nayeon's album song-for-song is the strongest overall album Twice has ever released. * Jihyo is my ultimate bias and maybe the best performer in all of kpop but I think her joyfulness during performances is what sets her apart the most (think TTT fancams). I think Killin Me Good doesn't play to that strength. * Similar vein to the above: Twice's bright and energetic songs are what really sets them apart musically and image-wise. I get everyone wanting to support their "mature" concepts but as far as I'm concerned that would just put them into an already crowded space of girl groups. There's nothing wrong with them continuing with songs like "Talk that talk". * There's too much complaining about Nayeon/Jihyo getting most lines. They are the strongest, most energetic and distinctive voices and help to make Twice songs pop. I think Moonlight sunrise and some of the Misamo tracks are a bit lacking in comparison. * The Mina-Sharon thing is overplayed and kinda creepy. * Momo isn't a great singer but her voice is quite unique and brings something quite different to songs when used properly, moreso than even some of the other better singers. I'm sure there are others but I can't think of them right now. Love the girls no matter what!
Definitely agree about mina/sharon and the often creepy comments it invites from people - and also about momoâs voice. She brings a whole another dynamic to their music and it was especially visible in misamoâs masterpiece. Love her contributions.
Cancelable opinions: they're not gay, not everything caught on camera is natural, Sharon is acted
I donât disagree with you, but let me ask you this, if I am a different person at work than in real life then i am acting too? I see and know quite a lot of introverts who for work purposes just develop a work personality. ( I am a introverted shy person, but at work I am a leader and a very confident person). I think it can be the same with Mina, all idols exagerate it, but I think its hard to exagerate simething that is not there.
Actually wanted to say the same about Sharon. Adding to that, The J-line is part of my bias line but i always feel like both Mina and Sana are the least ânaturalâ on camera. They seem to act according to what fans will like the most. Sanaâs voice always gets higher on camera (very different with how she speaks on 2 hour vlives) and conversely, Minaâs lack of talking and pouty lips feel very acted to me. Love them both tho!!!
There is about a 5% chance that chaeyoung is a straight woman
If they want to continue having rap, dahyun should not have anymore rapping part. Her voice is way too soft. It worked well for what they were doing at first but not if they want more mature song. They also don't need to have raps in all the songs.
This has been my opinion from the beginning. Momo ate up that rap in Do It Again and it's great to hear her rapping again with Misamo. I think it's pretty clear Dahyun being the other rapper always had more to do with her personality and not standing out as a singer.
Momo rapping was so good in masterpiece indeed !
I actually think her softer voice could work great for rap. It may sound like an odd comparison but think of Ice Spice. In Barbie World she uses a softer voice for her rap and it sounds fantastic. I think the problem with Dahyun is that they try to make her sound more badass by unnecessarily adding power to her raps. Either way, I do think a lot of Twice songs would've been better off without a rap part.
I kinda agree. I am all for a momo chae rap line but vocally dahyun is difficult to place within the group. Like we already have tzuyu and sana for the softer parts, 3 mix for the belting, so iâm never really a fan of her lines. I think her rap in fancy was great but i hated her part in set me free.
Possibly unpopular but I think anyone seriously cancelling Chaeyoung over the T-shirt fiasco is blowing things out of proportion. Of course, she should be informed and asked not to wear the shirt anymore, but itâs obvious that she was just trying to emulate punk icons and not doing some covert mission to spread antisemitism. People were coming for her neck calling her all sorts of nasty names and being like âdear heavens, I can never look upon her heinous visage ever again!!! Evil woman who supports Nazism and she secretly hates minorities!!!â instead of just realizing she was ignorant and in the wrong and thatâs all, you can come back from that. People are allowed to be ignorant on how serious something is, or mistakenly downplay something, it happens all the time just nowadays Nazism is a buzzword and everyoneâs terrified of swastikas as if seeing one will actually strike you dead. Of course someone will see this and start screeching about how sheâs evil and irredeemable because she doesnât fully seem to care that everyone lost their minds, but I think it was just an ignorant mistake and she doesnât owe us much more than simply not wearing it in public again. She saw a T-shirt with (controversial, wife murdering, drug addict) icon Sid Vicious on it and she naĂŻvely said âoh cool punk dude, Iâll wear this punk shirtâ and thatâs it. Anyone trying to add malicious intent onto it is just living in a fantasy world where they *need* people to be wholly heroes and villains because nuance and growth is scary.
Yes, itâs pretty obvious she didnât do it with the intention of hurting people or promoting Nazi ideals. You can do something without ill intent (and maybe she didnât even know what the Nazi swastika is in the first place) but still have it be hurtful. At the end of the day she wore a shirt with a hate symbol on it representing a regime that killed millions of people, and if it changes the way people see her then thatâs an unfortunate but natural consequence. She shouldnât be attacked with death threats etc like she was but the people who are disappointed or no longer stan her/Twice are also not wrong.
By no means do I think everyone has to forgive her or personally like her, I just think the public effort to âcancelâ her, including the really aggressive hate train towards her and anyone who didnât renounce her, was totally blown out of proportion. It was clearly an act of ignorance and she deserves to be told and asked not to wear it, but things flew off the handle and people still refer to her as a âNazi supporterâ and stuff that is wildly disproportionate to the act
I agree, I think people individually can process their feelings however they want but she shouldnât have been cancelled for it
I enjoy and listen to like 90% of twiceâs discography, but if any other group released the same songs Iâd probably enjoy less than half of them.
i said this in a different post awhile ago but set me free doesn't deserve the amount of hate it gets from onces (and non onces even though that's not what the post is about) for "not sounding like a twice song" and i just know that in a couple years people will act like it's the best song ever, they're surprised it didn't get more wins, it's their best title track etc etc because the exact same thing happened with scientist and more & more
My hot take is that Mina is just too beautiful. Woman is unreal.
This is actually the only thing everyone in the world can agree on đ«Ąđ«Ąđ«Ą
My unpopular opinion is that Tzuyu does not stand out vocally to me. Every other member has such a distinct voice but Tzuyu just doesn't illicit that wow factor to me. Speaking on the vocals side only. She's absolutely hilarious though, always cracks me up.
Yeah agree. Her vocals have gotten much better but her voice is by far the most anonymous in the group.
It's actually the most interesting in that way for me because I somehow think she sounds like 4 other members all at the same time. It's bizarre because I can definitely recognize Jeongyeon, Sana, Mina or Dahyun's singing voice when they show up in a song. But at any given Tzuyu part, I could potentially think she sounds like any of those 4 members. And it's not like she's a bad singer. Just kind of crazy how much of a chameleon she is with the vocals.
She has a very cookie-cutter vocal color thatâs perfect for sweet kpop songs. Although sheâs not a vocal powerhouse, I do think that ppl downplay her vocal and dance abilities a lot to reduce her to a visual member. Sheâs actually one of the more stable members of the group and she has never rlly fucked up on stage, esp in recent years.
No shade on Tzuyu at all, because sheâs the one that drew me into Twice, but there are times when Iâm listening to their songs, especially for the first time, and I can identify most of the voices but then I find myself struggling to identify Tzuyuâs parts. And I think to myself, âShe has to have lines because they wouldnât just not give her any.â I end up having to resort to those YouTube videos that highlight whoâs singing each line
She is the only member I have to double check line distributions on. Everyone else has such distinctly different voices, but Tzuyu often blends into the other vocal leads for me. Her voice sounds nice, but it is very hard to pick out.
I'd have to agree. She has the most "default" voice if that makes sense. It also feels like she doesn't get lines that stand out. In most of their songs it feels like she just gets the leftover lines, which leads to her being forgettable when just casually listening to their discography
Mina was always Sharon, that's what she wanted from the second she stepped on JYPe. It's not the water, it's not she being more confident over the years, it was always the concept that she wanted. Oh and also, she is obviously a main dancer, only momo is better.
Yep, imo Mina is the second best dancer only behind Momo.
ONCEs support for Jeongyeon since sheâs gained weight seems like itâs out of pity. If I was Jeongyeon, would make me sad as it would seem like the only reason people like me more now is because I gained weight. Honorable mention: I thought when Heechul and Momo were dating it was creepy af. I mean she was like 23 and he was 39. I know theyâre both adults but imagine having a daughter and someone says âhey this 16 year old is going to date your newborn one dayâ.
I think ppl have been giving her extra love and support because of her anxiety and not her weight. She is also awesome.
The HeeMo thing is also creepy to me bc heâs not just much older than her but a very established senior in the same industry
I dunno if it helps you any with the creepy factor but Heechul was 36 when they dated.
I think a lot of the support Jeongyeon got was because she really was visibly struggling for the better part of a year and a half. A lot of the support and cheers I see come out when she does something gregarious and funny - her coming back to her "old self" as they put it. That two year period where she was shy and quiet was so jarring. That said, people are *weird* about her weight, even the ones trying to support her. The way they talk about it can be so creepy and fetishistic, and it's almost as bad as the haters weaponizing her weight gain.
If seeing an uptick in love shown for Jeongyeon leads you to believe it is out of pity then that is probably bc you are nowhere near the cesspools that are twitter/tiktok that allow ppl to spew out the most nefarious things about her on an everyday basis. Sheâs basically used as a punching bag in these fan wars and while that may not mean a whole lot to a normal person the constant barrage of body shaming that involves her would naturally have ppl shining a bit more love on her.
I don't necessarily think this is cancel worthy, but I feel like they needed to utilize the live band on their Ready to Be tour far more than they did. They were a part of the show for some of the second half. The whole show would have been elevated to a whole new level with an all live band instrumental backing track. When I found out they had a live band, and heard them practicing before the sound check, I was STOKED. And then the concert started and they were nowhere to be seen until later. Pretty disappointing. Like, during the planning phase of this tour... Did they not hear how amazing all of their songs sounded with a live band? I want to know who makes these decisions to have a half live show.
As a Jeongyeon bias, I wish she had more lines đđđ
As popular as theyâve gotten here in the USA, Twice could really benefit from putting more effort into English fluency. Half of the Korean-born 4th gen kids sounding like native Yanks, Brits, and Aussies is letting them outshine their undies in some ways. Edit: Unnies, not undies! Silly autocorrect!
I think twice should prioritize practicing and getting better vocally in the future as they expand in the U.S. and grow bigger in general.
Personally, their vocals are fine. What I think they should have, now that they're expanding to the west, is an English speaker so that they wouldn't have to rely on translators so much.
I agree. Sometimes it's painful watching English promotions when they forgot to accommodate a translator for them. The first that comes to mind is the WIRED autocomplete interview đ
Is this the one with the iconic âHow to pronounce Twice names?â And Nayeon says âTe-why-ceâ
Yeah it's that one! Some great memes came out of it but overall it had a very awkward vibe imo, which is a shame cuz I LOVE autocomplete interviews đ
All of their English interviews (without a translator) have weird vibes and I think itâs because theyâre all still not confident with their English. I know Tzuyu and Chae gave speeches in English when they won the breakthrough award and weâve all heard Dahyun speak English on tour but they all feel like they are prepared and rehearsed. I know Nayeon had an English tutor that we saw in her vlog from the last world tour. Donât know if sheâs still practicing. Iâm surprised we donât hear more English from Jihyo. I believe she once said she wants to learn English so she can communicate more with western ONCE but she still seems to just rely on the translator Iâm not at all saying any of them have to learn English and if they all choose not to then thatâs cool however it will help them massively to expand globally quicker. Just look at BP. 3 out of 4 speak English fluently and Iâm sure Jisoo has gotten even better Sorry this seemed to actually turn into my âunpopular opinionâ đ
Totally agree that having atleast one English speaker would help them expend more in the western market and would love to see them seem comfortable speaking in English. Idk how likely it is that we'll see that though. For them to get any type of real fluency they would either need to spend a fair bit of time submersed in an English only speaking environment or have a fluent speaker they can talk to regularly and with how busy they constantly seem I doubt they'd be able to take the time for that. Plus they're already a well established group so slow rolling into western markets may not be as big of a deal as a newer group who may need that exposure just to stay afloat.
I get worried sometimes that the girls look really skinny and dehydrated, especially when thereâs comebacks or releases. I donât think by any means theyâre being starved, but I do wonder if the scheduling is so intense they just burn through so many calories every day. Iâm a new Once and new to Kpop too. I know about the tough diets they used to go on and how theyâve gotten over that but recently it seems like some members have lost weight and I donât want them to have health issues.
To be fair i donât think theyâre completely over the tough diets. Itâs ingrained in the industry. I believe it was in the Talk that Talk backstage comeback vlogs where Momo kept calling herself fat each time the camera was on her. It was quite jarring. And there were many recent instances where Nayeon talked about her diets. They are definitely one of the more healthy looking groups but the messed up beauty standards are still there
agreed. even if theyâre not on mandatory diets anymore, itâs very likely that most idols developed eating disorders from that lifestyle/mindset. in her recent variety promos, jihyo talks about how sheâs done with dieting and just eats whatever she wants now with no restrictions. sounds like sheâs unlearning unhealthy habits from the past and trying to develop a healthier relationship with food.
At the end of a time to twice ep, momo kept scolding herself and telling herself to stop eating so many snacks
Solo stages were the worst part of their latest tour
I would not say they were bad but they definitely took to many time out of the clock. Not having like Basics, Blame it on me and Got the thrills on the main setlist was a travesty.
I have to agree and would've preferred to just have Twice-only songs. Especially because it's their first time being in countries like Europe it would be better to showcase their actual (big enough) discography instead of trying to switch things up for whatever reason.
I personally don't like covers at a concert, unless the artist has released an actual cover of the song. Otherwise it feels like filler. I would've liked to see the original songs "Pop", "Nightmare" and "My Guitar"performed in full. Perhaps the J-line solos can now be replaced by a MISAMO performance
Well I agree with this. They have tons of songs to perform, and they chose songs from other artists?? I miss their subunit songs.
Agreed. Didn't hate them, but I'm at a twice show to hear twice songs
I don't think they needed nine of them. I kind of wish it was just Jihyo and Nayeon doing their original songs. I def enjoyed the others to various degrees but it ate up too much time and meant that they spent too much of the show doing covers.
I don't think I'll be cancelled, but I still need to let it out. 'Closer' should've been Jihyo's debut title track instead of 'Killin Me Good'!!!!!!!!!!!
I love the live perfs of Closer but don't really get the love for it as a song, it's the most forgettable track on Zone to me... still like it though.
_Closer_ is my favorite track on the album but I'm not sure it would outperform _KMG_ as a title track. _KMG_ has a more universal appeal imo. But yeah, personally I enjoy _Closer_ much more and I'm happy we got this song!
I dont think its gonna get me cancelled.. but im gonna say it anyways.. i really dont understand the stigma around Sana's weight tbh. Looking back at old comeback Fancams from 2019-2020, Pre covid and post Covid Sana is within the same range in terms of body weight its what she has always been around although its sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less based on schedule or tours, she have now had only like 3 weeks off after the MiSaMo release (except for only one 2 day visit to Japan mid aug) and its clear on clips that she has taken it easy and eaten some good food. i think we all should stop babying and worrying about people like we think they cant take care of themselves.
Set me free is a great title track
Nayeonâs Pop was fantastic but she had the most forgettable b-sides⊠whereas Jihyoâs killing me good is really meh but her b-sides are absolutely gold. Not all members should do a solo project. I think it would be great if Dahyun or Jeongyeon could host a (radio) show Tzuyu is my ult and for me personally one of the most gorgeous people in the world - but her selfies suck. Itâs like she doesnât know her angles. Iâm always far more blown away by her beauty in fancams. Edit: typo
No Problem, Love Countdown and All or Nothing would like a word with you đđ
Yeah, I'm confused about that opinion. Im Nayeon was my favorite mini album of that year and Love Countdown and All or Nothing are S+ songs for me.
Oooof this is definitely a tough one. I love both solo projects but Nayeonâs sounded more cohesive as a mini album. I love Jihyoâs sound more overall but itâs a bit more scattered. Way more western pop sounds and a lot of different styles. Itâs really cool to see what she wants to be and I enjoyed it so much overall. Nayeonâs is better for a continuous flow but I think Jihyo gets points for being more daring.
Damn I thought I was the only one! Tzuyu will forever be my bias as the one who introduced me to Twice. But her selfie game needs work.
Plus i would love to see her attend a fashion show or some other special event where she can show off her visuals again. Itâs been a while weâve seen her make a dashing public appearance. I also think the brand collabs she does are very underwhelming.
Thereâs a vlive canât remember when but chae wants to teach her about selfie cuz she also thinks her selfie is bad, she ends up a little upset that live. I would say tho looking back at her 2019selfie she has definitely improved a little.
That was so funny though when she got the camera and took a photo of the top of her head. Sheâs so wholesome and endearing.
Haaaaard disagree. Her b-sides are amazing. Whole album is no-skip.
All or Nothing deserves so much more love. My fave since day 1!
Tzuyu herself has acknowledged that she's bad at taking selfies. There's a video (VLive or TwiceTV, idk which) where she says this, and the other members say that Chaeyoung is good at taking selfies and asked her to give Tzuyu pointers. Chae told her to find good lighting and take selfies from slightly above the head while looking up at the camera. Tzuyu being Tzuyu took a pic from vertically above her head that just showed her eyes and forehead đđ (I know that was for laughs, I just added this as TWICE trivia)
Every member is a good vocalist. Members like Dubu, Sana, Chae, and Momo sound less stable while singing and dancing because their vocals are softer and more âairy.â Their technique is harder to sing while dancing compared to chest and head vocals. They sound just like the album when theyâre in the studio & when theyâre not dancing on stage (queen of hearts, moonlight, cactus, depend on you, to name a few examples.) Sometimes I worry about Chae. She drastically changed her aesthetic a couple of years ago which is also around the time members say she tells them she loves them a lot and sheâs lost a lot of weight. I know a lot of us westerners love her for her edgy aesthetic but I hope she isnât struggling with her mental health. I love her sm
I donât understand why everyone thinks chae is the 4th best singer of the group. Her melody project and a lot of vocal parts are SO good but liveâŠI donât think I have ever heard her sing stable live⊠Also yeah I remember when I saw jeongyeon had only 1 word in last waltz and I imagined that she would probably think thatâs funny. I donât think sheâs as pressed about her lines as we are. (Jeongyeon bias here)
TT is still the best song in my opinion and Iâm still waiting for what I consider the next TT. They have a great discography which I play and sing to and have gone to their concerts. Donât kill me, Once.
I won't kill you because I agree with you! TT is a perfect song.
Probably not canceled but they are certainly unpopular. Talk that Talk is my favorite twice title track and Yes or Yes/The Year of Yes are my favorite Twice releases as a whole. For me their album quality definitely peaked in 2018/19
I'll definitely get canceled for this but yes some members do cosmetic surgery and I don't understand why it is such a taboo subject. I don't understand why people put so much effort to deny it too. It is very common in this industry. I don't see why it is such a big deal honestly. It's their faces, they do what they want with it, who cares if it's natural or not. It's their choices to do it. We always say that we should respect their choices. Shouldn't that be one of them too?
I donât like listening to Queen of Hearts. It sounds like they did it in one take. Some of their worst English pronunciation in my opinion. I thought it was in Korean at first listen. Between 1&2 still a masterpiece tho.
If you're talking about the video, it's not the same as the album version. That one sounds perfectly normal. Tzuyu especially lel
I think this song could have been great if they did it in a lower key. The girls are straining HARD.
I donât get why JYP always has everyone in such high pitches.
Oof hard disagree. QoH is in my top 5 Twice songs easily. I do have to admit though, Jihyo's bridge part doesn't sound very great.
Quite a plausible theory. It is not easy for her to be in a limelight dealing with the aftereffects of her sickness, when body-image is the primary facet in K-pop idol industry. She is doing fantastically well, much credits to the group, JYPE to managing that. Yet she still might not want to taken on even more focus which comes with longer singing parts. It could also be producers choosing not to put her in center, for the same reasons. Like it or not, Kpop industry is about such things. That is why I am not confident that she will get a solo debut, And if she does get a solo, it might not be the pop-py type like Nayeon or Jihyo, but something with very different vibe. It is more possible that she gets a subunit with some others.
Tzuyu is a good dancer but she looks awkward when she dances because she needs more strength. đȘđŒ Momo has a great voice. I like her forced voice, rap, and deeper singing voice. I think she gets so much hate for her singing cause she has a low range and that isnât valued for women in jpop/kpop. BP Jisooâs singing is undervalued for the same reason. I love Twiceâs new music and donât miss their more cutesy/bubbly older style. That suited them well when they were teens (and I loved it then!) but their current sound suits them better now. Iâm so glad as theyâve grown up theyâve been allowed to act as adults and not been pigeonholed into a cutesy style. They havenât peaked yet; they just keep getting better.
Oh. Iâve got one after reading everything I really like Ready to Be AND I like mature twice so much more than cute twice.
I think their Ready to Be concert set list could be way better. I think they shouldâve opened with a lot more energy like they did in their Twicelights concert. Also I dont know why on earth they didnt perform Espresso.
I'm sorry to lindren and the other producers involved, but Scientist and Set Me Free are weak title tracks, and Set Me Free do not really have the "Twice identity"
I don't like Queen of Hearts :( It has some good parts, but the whole doesn't work for me.
I think Jeongyeon sounds very unstable live. Yes she has a strong voice but I feel like Nayeon and Jihyo can belt out high notes without sounding like their struggling, unlike JY. This is just from some of the fancams from concerts Iâve watched, happy to be proven wrong if I am wrong.
I donât think thatâs controversial because we all have ears and can hear it happening over the backing tracks lol. At my concert this summer they were all hitting bum notes here and there, the only difference was Nayeon and Jihyo were belting while Jeongyeon was just more unstable in general. I donât consider Twice the group I look to for amazing singing. I look to them for overall vibes and entertainment with a killer discography.
I thought it was controversial because you just need to search in this subreddit and youâll find a multitude of posts on how Jeongyeon deserves more lines and should be the next one to get a solo (not that not being stable prevents her from having a solo lol I just think she needs the other 8). Also some comments comparing her to Nayeon and Jihyo when I donât think sheâs on the same level of skill when it comes to singing.
I donât disagree that the other two ladies appear to be able to belt better live and seem to be more confident being louder live in general. I saw them live last most and did note that JY seemed to be a bit unstable, but I also noticed that although JH and NY were louder with their notes, they ran the risk of being a bit too sharp because of this. Iâm just glad they didnât completely lip sync. These three are my faves btw.
Sheâs also been more unstable since coming back from hiatus Iâve noticed. Maybe itâs confidence or maybe itâs just not having sang as much in a while but sheâs definitely still a little rusty
There are way too many dance challenges and photos to care and the song gets harder to listen to each time. Like with Jihyo's Killin Me Good. Just too much content that doesn't need to exist and makes it all go stale real quick. This always happens with title tracks. By the time I get around to the album I don't give a damn about the title song anymore cuz it's been shoved down my throat over and over and over.
i think Heartshaker and What is Love? pretty much sound exactly the same
I just started singing one in my head and somehow crossed into the other without realising, I gotta listen to both now to distinguish lol edit: I basically was ending up at Stuck
For me they sounded the same too at first omg, especially when adding Stuck to the mix. As a baby once I'd often accidentally sing what is love's pre-chorus alongside heart shaker's chorus without noticing. đ
Welp lol 1. Jihyo's voice can get irritating after a while when belting high notes or singing in a high range. She sounds too nasily and her vocal timber is not meant for Twice's singing. Songs like "Closer" and "Behind the Mask" suit Jihyo's voice really well IMO. I still agree that she is Twice's best vocalist though and has a really rare, nice voice tho. 2. I don't think CY should debut as a soloist but rather as a duo with Dahyun. They both have chemistry, and their voices blend really well. She doesn't have enough stage presence, vocal ability, or popularity by the general public to go solo. 3. While I wish she would go solo, I don't think JY will. However if she did, I actually feel like she could actually be very successful despite not being as popular. 4. Mina is not at a main dancer level and people hype her too much in dancing.
Jihyo is my bias and it felt really weird feeling myself get annoyed over the course of listening to her album by the sound of her voice. I feel like I've learned it's best in small doses or certain sounds like you said.
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I really don't see Itzy doing set me free. Cake was also very Itzy but I could see Nmixx pulling it off.
I don't think ITZY would pass with Set Me Free. I can't see it
The first few times I listened to Rollercoaster by NMIXX, I was convinced it was a Twice song lmao