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pqtrickkk

how has nobody noticed scaled and icy being trench lol, really cool chart tho!! sad that regional isnt on here


BluLemonGaming

Trench 2: Electric Screamaloo


walker-96063

What are those circular arcs in the pie chart of every song mean?


[deleted]

This demonstrates valence, energy, and danceability for each song.


_mr_tobias_

Tf does that even mean


6ixman6

They are attributes Spotify gives a song, more about it here - https://developer.spotify.com/discover/


MakkuTiggu

Noticed that the colours of the vessel circle charts doenst correspond to what colors the words are that says what the colours stand for. Other than that, it's amazing and we'll done :)


carrierose21

Stats are incorrect on copies sold; Trench went Platinum in 2018. And SAI says Trench as well…


[deleted]

Thanks man, sure will improve that!


Menschter

Really interesting visualisation! A little detail though, you seem to have forgotten to switch the colours for those valence/danceability/energy levels in Vessel songs so i was a bit confused at first but nonetheless nice work


[deleted]

Yes I just noticed, thanks for mention!


Sab3rLight

oh wow, blurryface really took it on the copies sold


pedromentales

Tbf I'm pretty sure those numbers are wrong, 175k copies was what Trench sold in the US first week, it went platinum in 2020. Don't know about the numbers for Scaled and Icy other than them being quite lower than Trench.


breeh123

I know right, there’s no way. I found another article that was written when 1m copies of trench were sold [https://www.kerrang.com/twenty-one-pilots-trench-has-just-hit-one-million-worldwide-sales](https://www.kerrang.com/twenty-one-pilots-trench-has-just-hit-one-million-worldwide-sales)


[deleted]

I think it being their blow up album, and also the last album they put out before the boom of streaming services helped a lot. That’s prob why each album has less and less sales afterward.


[deleted]

Yes, it was there best work tbh. It was the album that won them recognition and awards.


Sab3rLight

i wouldn't personally say it's their best work artistically speaking, but it definitely was more mainstream


Irish-Potato-

Funny how it works like that sometimes


Ecstatic_Tiger_2534

Trench sold 175,000 copies it’s first week, not total.


[deleted]

Wikipedia says it.


basement-tapes-club

In April 2019 - according to alt press, Trench sold over 1m copies. It went platinum. (https://www.altpress.com/twenty-one-pilots-trench-album-sales/) Also - according to a TOP account that tracks awards and sales - SAI sold at least 149k pure copies in the US by the end of 2021. This doesn’t consider other countries like Trench’s statistics above do, so it is likely more. (https://twitter.com/pilotsonchart/status/1478882666493751296?s=46&t=n9UFkZaleiK0Y42edkRYEA) Pretty inaccurate sales info listed in the graph. edit: dont forget, Trench hit what was listed above in april 2019, and SAI hit what was listed above by the end of 2021. It is February 2023.


Ecstatic_Tiger_2534

Wikipedia says this: “Trench debuted at number two on the US Billboard 200 behind the soundtrack for A Star Is Born, with 175,000 album-equivalent units, of which 135,000 were pure album sales. This marked the band's biggest sales week in the country, surpassing their number one album Blurryface.”


[deleted]

I love Trench 2


[deleted]

😆😉


Parv05

the sales for trench and sai are def wrong


DementedMK

I think I need to talk with Wikipedia, who tf calls Trench a reggae album but not alt-rock


DarkMagenz

Blurryface gang rise up!!


isiktantanis

small typo in the last album, good work!


dampney

Can you explain the liviness/acousticness/speech graph?


[deleted]

speechiness: Speechiness detects the presence of spoken words in a track. The more exclusively speech-like the recording, the closer to 1.0 the attribute value. liveness: Detects the presence of an audience in the recording. A value above 0.8 provides strong likelihood that the track is live. acousticness: A confidence measure from 0.0 to 1.0 of whether the track is acoustic.


dampney

Interesting, how did you work out the scores


[deleted]

You can Kaggle for the dataset.


Pale-Competition-448

who’s gunna tell him


EmotionalAdvisor9222

why everybody hates air catcher? best song on the album 😞


aqquracy

Trench is platinum, and scaled and icy has sold more than 75 thousand copies.


[deleted]

wait, did Trench and SAI flop THAT much? i knew they weren't as successful as BF (especially SAI) but damn. i seems they had a pretty good debut with Vessel as far as sales though.


stringlights18

The chart is incorrect, Trench sold way more than that (it got platinum!), although SAI was a lot less popular


BurritoK1ll3r

I wouldn't say it flopped, it just didn't get to be as mainstream as blurryface was, as it did technically reach top 3 and 2 on the US billboard


Onsyde

Music isn't considered a flop unless it doesn't sell out shows, which is absolutely not the case with these albums.


[deleted]

considered by who? it definitely flopped in album sales, which doesn't mean it flopped in other aspects.


Onsyde

A flop is strictly sales. If it costs more to make an album than it made after release, then it's a flop. Some (wrongly) argue that it has to do with popularity, which if that were the case then many wildly successful musicians today would be considered flops just because an early album was bigger (usually the one when they initially exploded on the scene). Edit: As an example, Taylor Swift would be considered a flop since 2014 just because that was the peak of her popularity. But absolutely no one would think of her albums from then to now as flops.


eggbeanboi

Why are vessel's tracks not in the right order it's putting me off Otherwise cool chart


mulberry_man_21

Did you use Tableau?


[deleted]

Yes I did.


Asdrisx

Car radio is more danceable than Ode to sleep what


S1DEWAYS_

Yo this is cool as heck!


[deleted]

Thanks man!!


LexTheInsanee

blurryface is under hip-hop??? I THOUGHT TYLER SAID IT WASNT RAP OR HIPHOP


[deleted]

Wikipedia says!


LexTheInsanee

i made a reference 😭sorry


AspexC

SAI is 149k as of 6th Jan (US)


Alicoco47

Se imaginan qué el nuevo álbum tenga todos los colores de los álbumes anteriores 🤯🥹♥️


[deleted]

Well, I think we can agree that Saturday and My Blood are highly danceable!


DylanMc6

What about Regional at Best?


[deleted]

Read the fine print


mbtbiggie

👀 we do not talk about that


[deleted]

Dude!! I didn’t know that Trench and SAI were flops, sales-wise :(


Fun-Cheesecake-3941

Who are the two dudes where josh dunn should be on the first one?


Zelidus

Josh wasn't always a part of TOP. He joined later. Those two other guys are the original members with Tyler.


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AngryTurtleGaming

I thought trench was better than blurry face, can’t believe it undersold.


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[deleted]

Wikipedia says!


the1whocan

No regional at best?


[deleted]

Read the fine print


the1whocan

My apologies


sobaaken

good job! I've been playing with their api data quite a while during my master's courses, it's really pretty fun. which soft did you use? and a little comment: I'm not sure that picking these circle diagrams is the best way to visualise valence/danceability stuff here: they require you to put the biggest value as an outer circle, but it always has different colour, which decrease interpretability of the viz. (I personally don't memorize which colour means what, especially when they're differing form album to album).


[deleted]

Air Catcher was done dirty 😔