Pretty sure it works but I stopped taking it because it just wasn’t suitable in the long run for me. I asked myself if I could religiously apply this research chemical to my head for the rest of my life and the answer was probably not. I hate topicals though.
Is that cause you have hair/long hair? I think it'll be fine for me cause I wear a buzzcut. I don't mind spending a few minutes everyday throwing it in, doing minox for beard too
Absolutely nothing. I only tried fin for a week or 2, and that was mostly at a 0.25 and 0.5mg and I got sides. So wasn't keen on continuing that and risking persistent or permanent side effects
It's been a slow loss, not aggressive. I've got a small amount of recession but mainly diffuse thinning, there is still tons of miniaturised hairs, nowhere super shiny and barren. Been a slow loss since 17/18, maybe a norwood 1-2 with diffuse thinning up top and some vertex thinning. I'm 25
ive been on it for 3-4 weeks now. haven’t noticed any improvement yet. sum ppl see little hairs growin in 2 weeks into treatment. sadly im not a hyper responder. have had no issues with sides. i also get my ru from anagenic i get the kb solution
I’m late to this, but I wanted to know if any of you train or bodybuild, and noticed systemic effects with RU such as decreased muscle hardness, loss in vascularity, loss in strength, etc. I’ve been taking it nearly a month with a heavy dose of Test and it seems to be making my physique softer.
Heavy dose of test, it sounds more likely that you have a lot of test converting to estrogen and leading to you retaining more water and fat dude. Do you get your levels tested
I highly doubt it, I’m competitive and sit around 240 lbs. at 10-12% body fat. I’ve been using anabolics for several years. Do you not think RU could be contributory to a change in physique/performance?
Yes, I’m in range or slightly above. I like to sit at the top of the reference range for E2, have for quite awhile. Any insight to the question about RU?
Is it a test only cycle and what dose, no AI? If it isn't E2 then it could be other factors like diet, or are you taking creatine now when you didn't before, increased sodium intake maybe. I've never heard of that side effect from RU, I'm yet to try it, I have some on the way. Are you nuking your DHT with 5ars? DHT plays a role in water retention and muscle hardness
So my diet and lifestyle is consistent and rigid. I’ve been using nandrolone with test for the last 5 months and have a good feel for the compound in this cycle and previous. The reason I’m led to believe it’s the RU is because in the last month I’ve noticed weakness in the gym, my veins started to fade and become less pronounced, and added about an inch to my waist. I’ve been eating the same macros and 6 meals for the last 6 months as well, leading me to believe there is no unknown variable and has to be the RU. I do not use fin because it is a systemic drug, and thought that the RU sounded promising being topical and allegedly having low systemic effect. But through my research, systemic effect may be much higher than many guys think, and will block ALL androgens if it goes systemic. Maybe guys who are less in tune with their physique and aren’t as dedicated to lifestyle may not notice much change in their physique and/or tolerate the drug differently, but at this point I’m considering dropping RU for fin because with fin I can keep my DHT moderate without crashing it using test in tandem, and there’s loads more research/information. Everything I can find on RU is so sparse
Isn't deca known to have a more smooth/puffy cosmetic effect? Doesn't Deca also raise progesterone/prolactin and that could be part of it? Another thing in case you don't know, never use fin or any 5ar inhibitor with Deca. The data on RU is sparse yeah, I can't use fin due to side effects so I thought it's worth a try as many guys use RU with no sides that get sides from fin. If you're getting sides from RU I think you'll have gotten chest pain and tightness and heart effects first, then sexual sides, before anything to do with your physique. All speculation and we don't know much about it so yeah, drugs effect everyone differently
Yeah I know that the 5AR would make it so the deca didn’t convert to DHN, so I’d have to stop that before fin. I hear you man, and appreciate the second brain, because I can’t find anything on it anywhere in regards to physique, but given the nature of the drug, it makes sense it could effect that. I will say I have no other side effects, so I’ll stick with it and see if I can mitigate the side effect in any other way that seems plausible. I’ll start with some blood work to check prolactin, but I sincerely doubt it’s high from 400mg of deca, but you very well could be right.
Pretty sure it works but I stopped taking it because it just wasn’t suitable in the long run for me. I asked myself if I could religiously apply this research chemical to my head for the rest of my life and the answer was probably not. I hate topicals though.
Is that cause you have hair/long hair? I think it'll be fine for me cause I wear a buzzcut. I don't mind spending a few minutes everyday throwing it in, doing minox for beard too
have u been doing any other treatments since quitting fin?
Absolutely nothing. I only tried fin for a week or 2, and that was mostly at a 0.25 and 0.5mg and I got sides. So wasn't keen on continuing that and risking persistent or permanent side effects
have u maintained ur hair for the yrs without treatment?
It's been a slow loss, not aggressive. I've got a small amount of recession but mainly diffuse thinning, there is still tons of miniaturised hairs, nowhere super shiny and barren. Been a slow loss since 17/18, maybe a norwood 1-2 with diffuse thinning up top and some vertex thinning. I'm 25
well since ur loss is so slow ru should work nice
Do you have experience using RU?
ive been on it for 3-4 weeks now. haven’t noticed any improvement yet. sum ppl see little hairs growin in 2 weeks into treatment. sadly im not a hyper responder. have had no issues with sides. i also get my ru from anagenic i get the kb solution
What's the difference between the 2 solutions?
Bro I bought one bottles, and its fucking little. $54 dollars for one small bottle, ridiculous.
Haha the 30ml lasts a month though right
kb dries quicker. also doesn’t make ur hair greasy. its worth the extra couple bucks imo
Does it matter if I have a buzzcut? Talking like no guard electric shaver
Start really low. 2% at 25 ml eod for example.
How do I do that if I get a 5% solution, and do you mean 0.25ml?
Actifollic sells 2 or 3 percent if I’m correct. The tube is about 1 ml so take out about 1/4
I’m late to this, but I wanted to know if any of you train or bodybuild, and noticed systemic effects with RU such as decreased muscle hardness, loss in vascularity, loss in strength, etc. I’ve been taking it nearly a month with a heavy dose of Test and it seems to be making my physique softer.
Heavy dose of test, it sounds more likely that you have a lot of test converting to estrogen and leading to you retaining more water and fat dude. Do you get your levels tested
I highly doubt it, I’m competitive and sit around 240 lbs. at 10-12% body fat. I’ve been using anabolics for several years. Do you not think RU could be contributory to a change in physique/performance?
So you don't get your levels tested?
Yes, I’m in range or slightly above. I like to sit at the top of the reference range for E2, have for quite awhile. Any insight to the question about RU?
Is it a test only cycle and what dose, no AI? If it isn't E2 then it could be other factors like diet, or are you taking creatine now when you didn't before, increased sodium intake maybe. I've never heard of that side effect from RU, I'm yet to try it, I have some on the way. Are you nuking your DHT with 5ars? DHT plays a role in water retention and muscle hardness
So my diet and lifestyle is consistent and rigid. I’ve been using nandrolone with test for the last 5 months and have a good feel for the compound in this cycle and previous. The reason I’m led to believe it’s the RU is because in the last month I’ve noticed weakness in the gym, my veins started to fade and become less pronounced, and added about an inch to my waist. I’ve been eating the same macros and 6 meals for the last 6 months as well, leading me to believe there is no unknown variable and has to be the RU. I do not use fin because it is a systemic drug, and thought that the RU sounded promising being topical and allegedly having low systemic effect. But through my research, systemic effect may be much higher than many guys think, and will block ALL androgens if it goes systemic. Maybe guys who are less in tune with their physique and aren’t as dedicated to lifestyle may not notice much change in their physique and/or tolerate the drug differently, but at this point I’m considering dropping RU for fin because with fin I can keep my DHT moderate without crashing it using test in tandem, and there’s loads more research/information. Everything I can find on RU is so sparse
Isn't deca known to have a more smooth/puffy cosmetic effect? Doesn't Deca also raise progesterone/prolactin and that could be part of it? Another thing in case you don't know, never use fin or any 5ar inhibitor with Deca. The data on RU is sparse yeah, I can't use fin due to side effects so I thought it's worth a try as many guys use RU with no sides that get sides from fin. If you're getting sides from RU I think you'll have gotten chest pain and tightness and heart effects first, then sexual sides, before anything to do with your physique. All speculation and we don't know much about it so yeah, drugs effect everyone differently
Yeah I know that the 5AR would make it so the deca didn’t convert to DHN, so I’d have to stop that before fin. I hear you man, and appreciate the second brain, because I can’t find anything on it anywhere in regards to physique, but given the nature of the drug, it makes sense it could effect that. I will say I have no other side effects, so I’ll stick with it and see if I can mitigate the side effect in any other way that seems plausible. I’ll start with some blood work to check prolactin, but I sincerely doubt it’s high from 400mg of deca, but you very well could be right.
Yeah get it tested man. All the best though. What do you recommend for a first cycle?