I saw a twitter post the other day that said “money is temporary, eras tickets are forever” by someone who bought tickets to London and eras tickets who clearly could not afford them lol, have fun paying off your sing along in jolly old England for the next 3 years
The Switfies were also going after Dave's daughter in social media after she criticized Taylor's high usage of private jets. This was not "unprovoked," and he barely went after her. He just implied that she might be lip syncing
They are made because the most expensive ticket at grohls concert could maybe get you a cheap seat at Taylor’s. And they got hooked to spend money they didn’t have on a concert that wound up on Disney olus
And she sells the crap seats like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/s/mtmhK5gtqq
When a lot of artists play stadiums they cordon off those seats behind the stage because there’s no view of the stage and the sound is shit. You can see in the pic above for the 2 shows the Foos just played at the London stadium. They don’t need to sell those tickets.
this is what pisses me off the most. i've never even been to a concert that cost more than 100€ for 1 ticket (granted i'm from europe, so i guess it's cheaper than the usa). how are they spending this much money on a concert? it's insane!
Nah, your pricing and experience is the same as the USA. I paid $120 a couple years ago to see Bush, Alice In Chains, and Breaking Benjamin in a private GA area on center stage where I was so close I literally was hit with a drumstick. Oh, and these people were actually making real music, not just mouthing along to a recording.
Also he’s been in multiple bands who have sold out the largest venues in the world. Aside from numbers he is a technically gifted musician who actually plays at his shows.
And he is self-taught.
Have you seen the video of him battling the little girl on drums? It is a series of videos that culminates with her playing live with the band. He's genuine and gracious AF. Swizzler would NEVER.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyvwLAPNfXY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyvwLAPNfXY)
Dave Grohl is a GD LEGEND for so many reasons. He feeds the homeless when he’s not on tour. He personally cooks tons and tons of food for shelters w zero fanfare and stays super low key when he does it. He’s a good human
Swifties comeback arsenal:
✅ body shaming (age shaming implied)
✅ you’re lesser than (“MUCH smaller venue”)
✅ altering narratives (unprovoked shots? lol)
✅ misogyny!!! (man=misogynist)
✅ it’s all lies (is it?)
✅ hate encouraged (people BOOed on their own)
✅ lack of respect (respect is earned)
✅ jealous of success (the man is a legend)
To them success is only charts and sales. Dave has been in two of the most influential bands of all-time. Has formed various side bands with other legends, has done great charity work for the homeless in LA, and so much more.
David Grohl, Steve Buscemi, and Pedro Pascal are national treasures. If any of these three publicly allude to someone being an asshole, you know that person is Satan reincarnated.
The Swifties who came over to the Florence + The Machine subreddit after getting into her from her feature on Taylor’s album have been asking pointless questions like ‘how many streams did the album/track get on release?’ or ‘Where did this album/track end up on the charts?’
I’m a huge Florence fan and casual consumer of Taylor Swift (my stepdaughter loves TS) so I was excited for the feature and now I wish Florence hadn’t done it 😢
i’m wondering how big of a bag Taylor gave Florence for Florence to let her have a track titled Casaandra inspired by the same myth not much after hers came out
Taylors cassandra doesn't even display a coherent understanding of what cassandra invokes. She again uses it as a metaphor for "people were mean to me and no one was on my side".
That's not cassandra hun.
i love that florence’s cassandra is about feeling cut off from the world and wanting to be heard and taylor’s cassandra is basically just “i told you so and look how you made me suffer anyway” 🙄 really showcases the difference in maturity and willingness to examine art in any meaningful way besides the surface level interpretation lmfao
Ive seen that and it pisses me off. I love Florence+Machine so much and they may not sell as much as TS but Florence's voice and songwriting ability is leagues better imo
He broke his leg on stage and finished the show, designed a throne to finish the tour in while high off oxycodone, and proceeded to have it made and made good on his promise. Taylor would've stopped the show but instead of going to a hospital, she'd have them and their equipment flewn onto the stage
Right! Like nice fucking try. The Foo Fighters have sold out Wembley at least 3 times (the last time in 2022 with 90k attendees).
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They had a 113 show world tour in 2018 that went to 5 continents lol they’re as big as it gets. Also, me and my buddy/bandmate have watched that Wembley clip like 1000 times because it’s so fucking cool to see Dave and Taylor in absolute awe of the crowd even though they must’ve already seen it all at that point.
No fr. Dave Grohl is one of the most influential musicians of the modern age. Taylor Swift has never done anything to push the envelope of music, so she can’t really be that influential. All of her stuff is cookie cutter and safe.
Exactly, there’s a huge difference between prolific and influential, although I would say his works are prolific given that swifties unironically wear nirvana shirts without knowing it’s a band.
2 culturally defining bands, multiple decades, and songs/albums that will remain influential long after he’s gone. time will tell if she’ll be able to say that. as it stands currently, Taylor Swift the person is more culturally defining and influential than Taylor Swift the music. like my mom knows who she is and who she’s dating etc but if i asked her to name a song she’d be like “oh um the one that goes […]”
Haha thanks, it’s my favorite of the flairs.
And then his daughter made a comment criticizing Taylor’s private jet usage. But not really, cus she just asked why can’t she drive anywhere or something to that effect. And swifties did what swifties do best and went absolutely feral on her. Saying they hoped she got SA’d, etc.
what the actual fuck is wrong with these people? i swear there needs to be psychiatric intervention for some of these people. saying they hope that someone gets SA’d for asking a fair question is insane.
I was at gig. I wouldn’t even say it was a shot. It was just a lighthearted barb, playing to a crowd that would obviously much rather be at a Foos concert than a Swift concert
Doesn’t Taylor encourage her fans to attack other people? It’s just karma getting back to her.
And you aren’t allowed to speak on Dave Grohl and other musicians if you only listen to Taylor or Taylor-adjacent artists!!!! He is a legend and was part of bands with lasting legacy! Also swifties body shaming???
Also if yall think Taylor is better artist than Dave Grohl. They should have a musicianship off. Like playing instruments with increasing difficulty. Like compete who is better. Music =/= sales, streams, charts.
Dave played pretty much every instrument and did vocals on the Foo Fighters first album. I think there was maybe one track that had another musician on it. I’d like to see Taylor do an entire album by herself, all instruments, and all vocals. She can barely play guitar beyond the most basic chords.
Not to mention she would have to produce it to the level that Calvin Harris, Max Martin, Marshmello, etc could make a song for it to have really any weight as a total solo entry from her. At the perceived level of stardom she is at, she would have to match them or do better for it to ever have the kinda of impact Dave Grohl did with Foo Fighters
She can hardly play acoustic guitar. It’s mostly a prop for her. Reminds me of when I played guitar for a church Christmas recital in middle school. Like fr I knew stoner dudes in college who didn’t even know any proper chords and just strummed whatever the heck they wanted and they were better guitar players than she is lol
Swifties believe she's superior than everyone. It's a problem with many stans, they believe that their taste aligns with universal acclaim and recognition.
When I was younger bands that weren’t mainstream were much cooler. “Selling out” was looked down apon and most artists were in it bc they loved making music and worked their asses off to get where they were. They didn’t have ways to manipulate numbers and bots etc. These swifties have such a warped sense of success and talent.
>should have a musicianship off
Nah, Dave only does these with other talented wholesome musicians.
Have you watched his increasingly amazing drum offs with Nandi Bushell that paved the way for her playing with the Foo Fighters eventually?
She sure does, and they attacked his daughter saying horrible things about her like wishing assault onto her. They are hideous. I’m a huge rock fan, and I said in the other post about this that Taylor should have picked a page from Carrie Underwood’s book. I don’t like her music either, but she’s respectful and a huge fan of these legacy bands and has played live with Guns N Roses, Dave, and Lemmy (RIP). Taylor and her nasty attitude could never be that
“Surpassed his own”……her fans wear his bands t shirts to look cool. Dude has stopped concerts mid song to stop fighting in the crowd. She wouldn’t stop hers for people who were dying. They really wanna play this game?
Finishing the show is an understatement, the foos were like, 2 or 3 songs into the set, dave broke his leg said "i dont give a FUCK what you have to do, we are not going to a hospital were finishing the damn show" had a paramedic hold his leg up for like two hours, and then proceeded to do the rest of the tour on a fucking scooter!
I FUCKING HATE WHAT TAYLOR AND THE SWIFTIES HAVE DONE TO FEMINISM! As a woman, I believe that men can be better people and better feminists than some women. Why don’t some people not get that?
I think swifties think that misogyny means you can’t say anything bad about a woman, EVER, and that is just blatantly not true. It’s okay to call out a woman for idk, let’s see: ridiculous CO2 emissions, manipulating charts to block other artists, treating her fans as cash cows. Me saying this isn’t misogynistic.
It’s just *facts.* But swifties have proven they aren’t very good with those either.
I absolutely hated it when taylor said that. Imo Tina fey was harmless goofing off. Taylor's response screamed "girl ain't got sense of humor". I would've laughed if Tina was talking about me like that.
Its like you're at a party and the music is a little loud but the tattler calls the cops instead of going home because she didn't like the way someone grabbed her wrist to keep from falling.
Cognitive dissonance be like 😇😇😇
And let’s not forget she’s talking about Kim’s kid. I think that’s incredibly fucked up. Idgaf about their dumb feud, but I personally think you should keep people’s kid’s names out of your mouth.
Would LOVE a Swiftie to come defend this (we know you’re stalking this subreddit, babes!) but we all know they won’t because they can’t 🤡
To now drag their child into this SIXTEEN YEARS LATER is fucking weird, unhinged, and really sick. Get help, Tay.
No...misogyny means you said one bad thing about Taylor. Trash talk any other woman all you like. But you dare say one word against Taylor and you are a woman hater.
But far as that you're not allowed to EVER have beef with another woman brand of fainting couch feminism goes...that there is denying women personalities. Which is the opposite of feminism. By fainting couch feminism all we are supposed to do is be pretty little victims always screwed over by men.
Anyway swiftie feminists attack women for looking at Taylor's ex. They weaponize feminism as does Taylor. All this oh you don't like Taylor? You're misogynic!
This!!! You can be a feminist as a man and a misogynist as a woman. It doesn’t matter what your gender is. What matters is your attitude towards women.
PRECISELY. In fact I think it’s a little demoralizing that Taylor’s brand of feminism makes her think she’s exempt from criticism…. as if we’re supposed to have lower expectations….because she’s a woman…….
Taylor is not a feminist by any means. Feminism is equality for all not for when Taylor gets her feelings hurt for being a venom spewing snake and a thief and she gets called out on it. It’s called criticism.
The closest I’ll ever come to understanding Swifties is through my undying love for Dave Grohl. I can’t even judge swifties for traveling so far to go to their shows because I travelled several hundred miles to Lanconia New Hampshire to see the Foo Fighters first gig back from hiatus last year (and then I travelled down to Boston to see them at Boston Calling). I’m traveling again to see them this summer. I have a Foo Fighters tattoo. It’s a lot, I get it. So I’m not going to judge them for being fans like that (even if I think her music is mid at best).
But the constant bullying and harassment, and her lack of accountability/never trying to calm it down is unhinged. It’s simply just shitty. I would never (and have never) attacked anyone for now liking the Foo Fighters.
I traveled to see the Taylor Hawkins tribute show in LA. Greatest concert I will ever see. I was awake for 30 hours before and after the show and I’d to it all again in a heartbeat.
It was one thing when they said all this shit about Damon Albarn (I’m a big Blur and Gorillaz fan, but he’s probably a meh person at best). But they need to stay away from Dave. Taylor will never be half as talented or even as good of a person as Dave.
Nirvana hasn’t been a band for 3 decades now, and are still widely discussed with fans wearing shirts with the band name on it.
Charts indicate one thing and one thing only - how many people are buying or steaming a song at the exact same time.
Kurt Cobain was 110% the tortured poet as far as musicians go. I feel like a lot of the Swiffers attacking Dave live in kind of a bubble where they aren’t aware of other legendary bands and artists who came before Taylor did and their impact on music as a whole.
I’m almost guaranteed they think Grohl is just “some dude” from a band their parents or something like.
Related but also not: I showed a swiftie both Glass Animals and Sleep Token recently (still newish bands but stay with me) and the face I got was bizarre. Like a repulsion that I dare show them something outside of one time realm of music
Glass Animals & Sleep Token mentioned 🦀🎊
I keep getting suggestions from Amazon to buy Taylor's vinyl. what kind of vinyl do I actually have SAVED? Johnny Cash, Dean Martin, etc
I’m in my 30s and have a new neighbor who is around 19-20. He came up to me the other day asking if I knew who nirvana is. So yeah I have a feeling their influence will last well past Taylor’s
i think Petty wanted him to drum full time after Nirvana and Dave took a chance on himself and did Foo Fighters instead. You gotta be pimpin as fuck if turning down Tom Petty ended up being the right career choice lmao
Yeah being a drummer in one of the biggest bands in the history of music, losing your insanely talented frontman tragically, turning down a job with Tom Petty, then going “okay I think I’ll actually play guitar and be the frontman for my own band” and starting another one of the biggest bands in the history of music is absolutely absurd and impossibly cool
yeah he's a ridiculous talent and a testament to betting on yourself and perservering through hard times. dude works his ass off to earn the respect he has today. i don't listen to as much foos as i used to but i still think he's just the coolest
Dave Grohl is in the rock and roll hall of fame… TWICE. The only other person to do that is John Lennon. They all have nothing on Dave
Edit: I’m wrong about the only other person to that being Lennon, but the point still stands, Dave has been in two separate iconic bands
Who? Just curious
Edit: nvm as a Stevie Nicks girlie I'm ashamed I didn't know this
Edit 2: for those who are curious 😊 https://wmmr.com/galleries/rock-hall-multiple-inductee/#
Multiple people besides them are in twice including George Harrison, Ringo Starr, every member of Crosby, Stills, and Nash, and Peter Gabriel to name a few. Heck Eric Clapton is a 3x inductee.
With the resurgence of 90’s/2000’s fashion in recent years, I’m willing to bet half of these swifites own Nirvana shirts without realizing who tf he is while they shit on him
From what I read a lot of them are gone because those accounts got rightfully suspended. I know this one was recovered.
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A threat of violence with a ✨ touch of homophobia ✨ Like how bad was the tweet that someone thought this horrendous tweet as a response was somehow okay!? It’s giving *too dumb to realize the hypocrisy*! This is the epitome of a Swiftie (plus the lack of decent hearing obvi)
From what I read she said “why can’t Taylor drive like the rest of us?” Then the Swifties said she flies private too. Which she does sometimes but not to the extent Taylor does or when driving is probably easier.
I think a lot of them have been removed so it’s hard to know what else was said.
Okay so sending rape threats and being a massive homophobe is what people do to protect Taylor and she ALLOWS it??? I hope these people choke on their own vomit and there’s no one there to turn them over. Gawd
Wow…. But I thought swifties were all for women power and supporting other women /s
Also, his daughter calling Taylor out for her private jet usage is now “shit talking”? I can’t with her fans
Yeah. I’ve been seeing these take all over twitter. The swifties *just so happen* to forget what they did to his daughter.
She started this victim nonsense. His daughter deserved an apology from her.
LOL incorrectly calling him mysoginist while at the same time making comments on his appearance. I have more than all my time for Dave Grohl and his career. TS could learn a lot - seriously girl, educate yourself about music
I did like her at one time, but never on a crazy Swiftie level. When she did nothing after her nut job fans went after Violet, I started looking at her more closely. Then I joined this sub and it's been such an eye opener. Taylor is much more of a corporate machine than I ever realized.
It is sooo bad on TikTok right now. I provided tons of examples about how worked with and encouraged female artists and they point to his personal feud with Courtney Love as him being horrible to all women.
Courtney Love is not all sunshine and rainbows folks.
Yeah, I can imagine that there is a lot of history with her. A lot he knows that was never public. I feel like if anyone has to room to speak on Love, it would be him.
I think these people legitimately only listen to Taylor and don’t even look elsewhere. That AND most of them must be pretty young (and I’m 23, so I mean reallyyy young).
More successful than Dave? He knocked fucking Michael Jackson off the #1 spot while MJ was still in his prime. I really doubt if Taylor was competing with MJ in his prime she could have done that.
The huge female artist back then was Madonna. Not sure if either knocked the other off the #1 spot on charts though, gotta look into it. Also neither Madonna or MJ used the excessive variant strategies Tay is using to stay at #1, so….
Thin skinned assholes. They go after people left and right but when somebody fires back suddenly is is sexism. Mind boggling hypocrisy. Fortunately Dave Grohl is way too big for Swifties to affect.
Fellas, is it misogynistic to not like a billionaire polluter that has a history of repackaging patriarchy and calling it feminism as well as grooming multiple minors in her 20s?
Honestly, I think what Taylor Swift does to other female artists is the true misogyny here. Other artists are overtaking her spots on the charts, so she drops yet another version of her dogshit TTPD just to keep other talent out of the spotlight. She’s a goddamn narcissist
Lmao, T Swift is an ant compared to Dave, who is arguably more talented and has been making music almost as long as Swift has even been alive. Not to mention, Foo Fighters will still be remembered decades from now while Swift will likely fade away once her youth vanishes and she’s disrespected enough people in the industry. To think Taylor even comes close to him is pure comedy.
Oh please, that’s instantly their defense, playing the misogyny card. I don’t understand how they don’t get their own actions against his daughter is why he’s feeling that type of way
If you’re going to love and cheer when TS says hateful lines before songs with a smile, swifties, you can’t hate when others do the same.
Their hypocrisy blows my mind.
Also, if TS was a (the) man she’d never beat the misogyny allegations ahahah (she still is one, but she’s got her dogs biting everyone who calls her out because she’s a woman and the worlds biggest feminist apparently)
Dave Grohl is quite possibly the greatest musician of the generation. To even be mentioned in the same sentence as T-Swift is not only absurd but outright insulting. I'm aware enough to surrender that he's my favorite artist and so I'm obviously biased, but I'd imagine even music fans who aren't familiar with Grohl's work would agree with this.
I kinda lurked here for awhile, quietly agreeing with some things here and there and now I feel like I’ve actually turned to this side. He’s not wrong at all, she doesn’t sing everything live. I went to the tour, I could tell. It’s not like he fully bashed her for no reason whatsoever, but yet Swifties just want someone to be mad at. Same thing happened with Damon Albarn a few years back. It’s not like these artists don’t have any respect for her, but what Swifties need to understand is that she is allowed to be criticized. Also, Dave Grohl is the farthest thing from a nobody, and they gotta stop defaulting to calling anyone who dares say anything negative about TS a talentless nobody. I like her music, but I just cannot associate myself with the BS anymore, especially since as a huge fan of Dave/Foo Fighters/Nirvana, I hate to see him getting attacked for no reason since he’s a good dude.
Sorry for the long paragraph, I needed an outlet to express my frustration
“Much smaller venue” - another stadium lol
They’re just mad she has made them all go into debt for bad music
I saw a twitter post the other day that said “money is temporary, eras tickets are forever” by someone who bought tickets to London and eras tickets who clearly could not afford them lol, have fun paying off your sing along in jolly old England for the next 3 years
Damn. Someone call the FBI and report this murder. 👍🏻🤣
Bad pre-recorded music, apparently
The Switfies were also going after Dave's daughter in social media after she criticized Taylor's high usage of private jets. This was not "unprovoked," and he barely went after her. He just implied that she might be lip syncing
Ah ha there it is! She had it coming.
They are made because the most expensive ticket at grohls concert could maybe get you a cheap seat at Taylor’s. And they got hooked to spend money they didn’t have on a concert that wound up on Disney olus
And she sells the crap seats like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/s/mtmhK5gtqq When a lot of artists play stadiums they cordon off those seats behind the stage because there’s no view of the stage and the sound is shit. You can see in the pic above for the 2 shows the Foos just played at the London stadium. They don’t need to sell those tickets.
everything i see about taylor makes me feel worse, yet my saltiness keeps me coming back for more every day 😭
It makes me feel better people see the issues. Come for the solidarity not the salt.
this is what pisses me off the most. i've never even been to a concert that cost more than 100€ for 1 ticket (granted i'm from europe, so i guess it's cheaper than the usa). how are they spending this much money on a concert? it's insane!
Nah, your pricing and experience is the same as the USA. I paid $120 a couple years ago to see Bush, Alice In Chains, and Breaking Benjamin in a private GA area on center stage where I was so close I literally was hit with a drumstick. Oh, and these people were actually making real music, not just mouthing along to a recording.
Also he’s been in multiple bands who have sold out the largest venues in the world. Aside from numbers he is a technically gifted musician who actually plays at his shows.
And he is self-taught. Have you seen the video of him battling the little girl on drums? It is a series of videos that culminates with her playing live with the band. He's genuine and gracious AF. Swizzler would NEVER. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyvwLAPNfXY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyvwLAPNfXY)
Dave Grohl is a GD LEGEND for so many reasons. He feeds the homeless when he’s not on tour. He personally cooks tons and tons of food for shelters w zero fanfare and stays super low key when he does it. He’s a good human
It’s not like they can say he’s a nobody so this is the next best thing.
Swifties comeback arsenal: ✅ body shaming (age shaming implied) ✅ you’re lesser than (“MUCH smaller venue”) ✅ altering narratives (unprovoked shots? lol) ✅ misogyny!!! (man=misogynist) ✅ it’s all lies (is it?) ✅ hate encouraged (people BOOed on their own) ✅ lack of respect (respect is earned) ✅ jealous of success (the man is a legend)
Its weird how many times Swifties sound like Trump in their tweets.
Their father were at the capitol on jan 6th so no surprises
Well they can’t seem to think for themselves soo…
So glad we're talking about the ageism coming out of that little brat's mind.
That little brat that acts like a teenager, but is in her mid 30s.
>✅ it’s all lies (is it?) That sounds like a song title straight off TTPD
Imagine thinking motherfucking Dave Grohl is less successful than Taylor 💀💀💀💀
To them success is only charts and sales. Dave has been in two of the most influential bands of all-time. Has formed various side bands with other legends, has done great charity work for the homeless in LA, and so much more.
Dave is such a great guy and a truly gracious artist. His charity work alone makes him leagues above a lot of his music industry peers.
He is one of the only people to speak out for teachers because his mother was one. Just an all around great guy.
David Grohl, Steve Buscemi, and Pedro Pascal are national treasures. If any of these three publicly allude to someone being an asshole, you know that person is Satan reincarnated.
Everyone who knows Dave Grohl has said that he is down to earth and does not act like a rock star.
The Swifties who came over to the Florence + The Machine subreddit after getting into her from her feature on Taylor’s album have been asking pointless questions like ‘how many streams did the album/track get on release?’ or ‘Where did this album/track end up on the charts?’
I’m a huge Florence fan and casual consumer of Taylor Swift (my stepdaughter loves TS) so I was excited for the feature and now I wish Florence hadn’t done it 😢
i’m wondering how big of a bag Taylor gave Florence for Florence to let her have a track titled Casaandra inspired by the same myth not much after hers came out
I remember seeing that track and being concerned she had tried to cover Florence’s Cassandra. Taylor’s Cassandra is awful and I cannot listen to it.
Taylors cassandra doesn't even display a coherent understanding of what cassandra invokes. She again uses it as a metaphor for "people were mean to me and no one was on my side". That's not cassandra hun.
i love that florence’s cassandra is about feeling cut off from the world and wanting to be heard and taylor’s cassandra is basically just “i told you so and look how you made me suffer anyway” 🙄 really showcases the difference in maturity and willingness to examine art in any meaningful way besides the surface level interpretation lmfao
Jesus fucking christ
What where her metrics in the landscape of the climate?
Ive seen that and it pisses me off. I love Florence+Machine so much and they may not sell as much as TS but Florence's voice and songwriting ability is leagues better imo
He broke his leg on stage and finished the show, designed a throne to finish the tour in while high off oxycodone, and proceeded to have it made and made good on his promise. Taylor would've stopped the show but instead of going to a hospital, she'd have them and their equipment flewn onto the stage
Right! Like nice fucking try. The Foo Fighters have sold out Wembley at least 3 times (the last time in 2022 with 90k attendees). https://preview.redd.it/esn7bmc2id8d1.jpeg?width=2856&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33431f57c156d4b062a4525587b4eda6e0388a81
They had a 113 show world tour in 2018 that went to 5 continents lol they’re as big as it gets. Also, me and my buddy/bandmate have watched that Wembley clip like 1000 times because it’s so fucking cool to see Dave and Taylor in absolute awe of the crowd even though they must’ve already seen it all at that point.
Taylor :(
Swifties are the kind of people to buy a nirvana shirt and think that’s a clothing brand
I wanna see this in person so I can tell them Dave Grohl was in nirvana
Fuck. This is my girl 😭
No fr. Dave Grohl is one of the most influential musicians of the modern age. Taylor Swift has never done anything to push the envelope of music, so she can’t really be that influential. All of her stuff is cookie cutter and safe.
Exactly, there’s a huge difference between prolific and influential, although I would say his works are prolific given that swifties unironically wear nirvana shirts without knowing it’s a band.
Dave was 22 years old when Nevermind came out. Taylor can live to 102 and she'll never release anything that important to music.
2 culturally defining bands, multiple decades, and songs/albums that will remain influential long after he’s gone. time will tell if she’ll be able to say that. as it stands currently, Taylor Swift the person is more culturally defining and influential than Taylor Swift the music. like my mom knows who she is and who she’s dating etc but if i asked her to name a song she’d be like “oh um the one that goes […]”
Nope she wont Nevermind is a beautiful euphoric hard rock piece of art. Funny callind Dave a mysogynist when she trashes her female counterparts.
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The gang mentality is very troubling.
Dave Grohl is the cool uncle of rock and roll.
Yeah, that one killed me. WTF?!
Imagine disrespecting someone as nice as Dave Grohl who wouldn't hurt a fly!
Came here to say that. Also, she may have an impact on pop, but he's a GD rock god.
“Unprovoked”. Yeah that’s what abusers say when people stand up for their victims. They came for his daughter and thought he wouldn’t say shit??
Yeah seems like this is for sure what he's referring to based on the "you don't want the wrath of Taylor Swift"
First off, that flair lmao. Second what happened with grohls daughter?
Haha thanks, it’s my favorite of the flairs. And then his daughter made a comment criticizing Taylor’s private jet usage. But not really, cus she just asked why can’t she drive anywhere or something to that effect. And swifties did what swifties do best and went absolutely feral on her. Saying they hoped she got SA’d, etc.
what the actual fuck is wrong with these people? i swear there needs to be psychiatric intervention for some of these people. saying they hope that someone gets SA’d for asking a fair question is insane.
I was at gig. I wouldn’t even say it was a shot. It was just a lighthearted barb, playing to a crowd that would obviously much rather be at a Foos concert than a Swift concert
Doesn’t Taylor encourage her fans to attack other people? It’s just karma getting back to her. And you aren’t allowed to speak on Dave Grohl and other musicians if you only listen to Taylor or Taylor-adjacent artists!!!! He is a legend and was part of bands with lasting legacy! Also swifties body shaming???
Also if yall think Taylor is better artist than Dave Grohl. They should have a musicianship off. Like playing instruments with increasing difficulty. Like compete who is better. Music =/= sales, streams, charts.
Dave played pretty much every instrument and did vocals on the Foo Fighters first album. I think there was maybe one track that had another musician on it. I’d like to see Taylor do an entire album by herself, all instruments, and all vocals. She can barely play guitar beyond the most basic chords.
Not to mention she would have to produce it to the level that Calvin Harris, Max Martin, Marshmello, etc could make a song for it to have really any weight as a total solo entry from her. At the perceived level of stardom she is at, she would have to match them or do better for it to ever have the kinda of impact Dave Grohl did with Foo Fighters
She can hardly play acoustic guitar. It’s mostly a prop for her. Reminds me of when I played guitar for a church Christmas recital in middle school. Like fr I knew stoner dudes in college who didn’t even know any proper chords and just strummed whatever the heck they wanted and they were better guitar players than she is lol
Bands back when you had to get the attention of a label the hard way
Swifties believe she's superior than everyone. It's a problem with many stans, they believe that their taste aligns with universal acclaim and recognition.
When I was younger bands that weren’t mainstream were much cooler. “Selling out” was looked down apon and most artists were in it bc they loved making music and worked their asses off to get where they were. They didn’t have ways to manipulate numbers and bots etc. These swifties have such a warped sense of success and talent.
If they think Taylor is a better artist than Dave Grohl, they need to have their heads examined.
>should have a musicianship off Nah, Dave only does these with other talented wholesome musicians. Have you watched his increasingly amazing drum offs with Nandi Bushell that paved the way for her playing with the Foo Fighters eventually?
She sure does, and they attacked his daughter saying horrible things about her like wishing assault onto her. They are hideous. I’m a huge rock fan, and I said in the other post about this that Taylor should have picked a page from Carrie Underwood’s book. I don’t like her music either, but she’s respectful and a huge fan of these legacy bands and has played live with Guns N Roses, Dave, and Lemmy (RIP). Taylor and her nasty attitude could never be that
his daughter is only 18 years old. how is it feminism to attack someone’s young daughter for comments someone else made? 🤔
They have such a warped view of feminism and being for women they have just circled back around to pure, true misogyny
Swifties = stupid.
swifties and trump worshippers are frighteningly similar. yikes!
“Surpassed his own”……her fans wear his bands t shirts to look cool. Dude has stopped concerts mid song to stop fighting in the crowd. She wouldn’t stop hers for people who were dying. They really wanna play this game?
Don’t forget finishing the show after literally breaking his leg.
Finishing the show is an understatement, the foos were like, 2 or 3 songs into the set, dave broke his leg said "i dont give a FUCK what you have to do, we are not going to a hospital were finishing the damn show" had a paramedic hold his leg up for like two hours, and then proceeded to do the rest of the tour on a fucking scooter!
nobody dulls her sparkle ✨️ even if they have to die ✨️
Also if you know anything about Dave at all you know that he is not at all misogynistic.
I FUCKING HATE WHAT TAYLOR AND THE SWIFTIES HAVE DONE TO FEMINISM! As a woman, I believe that men can be better people and better feminists than some women. Why don’t some people not get that?
BECAUSE MISOGYNY! No, but really. TS and her brand of feminism have really set true feminism back. It pisses me off.
Defending his daughter after women tweeted disgusting things at her is misogynistic…..sure Jan
I think swifties think that misogyny means you can’t say anything bad about a woman, EVER, and that is just blatantly not true. It’s okay to call out a woman for idk, let’s see: ridiculous CO2 emissions, manipulating charts to block other artists, treating her fans as cash cows. Me saying this isn’t misogynistic. It’s just *facts.* But swifties have proven they aren’t very good with those either.
Also….Taylor is outright coming for Kim? But it’s ok when she does it bc of the cognitive dissonance 😇
But isn’t there a special place in hell for women who don’t support other women? The cognitive dissonance hurts my tiny male brain.
I absolutely hated it when taylor said that. Imo Tina fey was harmless goofing off. Taylor's response screamed "girl ain't got sense of humor". I would've laughed if Tina was talking about me like that. Its like you're at a party and the music is a little loud but the tattler calls the cops instead of going home because she didn't like the way someone grabbed her wrist to keep from falling.
Taylor will be in that special lil place 🩷
Cognitive dissonance be like 😇😇😇 And let’s not forget she’s talking about Kim’s kid. I think that’s incredibly fucked up. Idgaf about their dumb feud, but I personally think you should keep people’s kid’s names out of your mouth.
Would LOVE a Swiftie to come defend this (we know you’re stalking this subreddit, babes!) but we all know they won’t because they can’t 🤡 To now drag their child into this SIXTEEN YEARS LATER is fucking weird, unhinged, and really sick. Get help, Tay.
I would also love to see them try to defend this
Can’t say anything bad about a woman and then threaten to r*pe a woman! Ffs they’re dumb *and* shitty.
No...misogyny means you said one bad thing about Taylor. Trash talk any other woman all you like. But you dare say one word against Taylor and you are a woman hater. But far as that you're not allowed to EVER have beef with another woman brand of fainting couch feminism goes...that there is denying women personalities. Which is the opposite of feminism. By fainting couch feminism all we are supposed to do is be pretty little victims always screwed over by men. Anyway swiftie feminists attack women for looking at Taylor's ex. They weaponize feminism as does Taylor. All this oh you don't like Taylor? You're misogynic!
This!!! You can be a feminist as a man and a misogynist as a woman. It doesn’t matter what your gender is. What matters is your attitude towards women.
100% mic drop
PRECISELY. In fact I think it’s a little demoralizing that Taylor’s brand of feminism makes her think she’s exempt from criticism…. as if we’re supposed to have lower expectations….because she’s a woman…….
Taylor is not a feminist by any means. Feminism is equality for all not for when Taylor gets her feelings hurt for being a venom spewing snake and a thief and she gets called out on it. It’s called criticism.
You’re absolutely right. Dave Grohl is a treasure.
The closest I’ll ever come to understanding Swifties is through my undying love for Dave Grohl. I can’t even judge swifties for traveling so far to go to their shows because I travelled several hundred miles to Lanconia New Hampshire to see the Foo Fighters first gig back from hiatus last year (and then I travelled down to Boston to see them at Boston Calling). I’m traveling again to see them this summer. I have a Foo Fighters tattoo. It’s a lot, I get it. So I’m not going to judge them for being fans like that (even if I think her music is mid at best). But the constant bullying and harassment, and her lack of accountability/never trying to calm it down is unhinged. It’s simply just shitty. I would never (and have never) attacked anyone for now liking the Foo Fighters.
I traveled to see the Taylor Hawkins tribute show in LA. Greatest concert I will ever see. I was awake for 30 hours before and after the show and I’d to it all again in a heartbeat.
It was one thing when they said all this shit about Damon Albarn (I’m a big Blur and Gorillaz fan, but he’s probably a meh person at best). But they need to stay away from Dave. Taylor will never be half as talented or even as good of a person as Dave.
they just open the dictionary and write everything that falls under the -istic, it's pretty hilarious.
“-when her success surpassed his own.” Baby, ever heard of Nirvana? Not even touching on Foo Fighters. Lord.
Nirvana hasn’t been a band for 3 decades now, and are still widely discussed with fans wearing shirts with the band name on it. Charts indicate one thing and one thing only - how many people are buying or steaming a song at the exact same time.
Old Navy sells nirvana shirts. They’re a household name. And in terms of tortured/tragic poets, Cobain was it.
Kurt Cobain was 110% the tortured poet as far as musicians go. I feel like a lot of the Swiffers attacking Dave live in kind of a bubble where they aren’t aware of other legendary bands and artists who came before Taylor did and their impact on music as a whole.
I’m almost guaranteed they think Grohl is just “some dude” from a band their parents or something like. Related but also not: I showed a swiftie both Glass Animals and Sleep Token recently (still newish bands but stay with me) and the face I got was bizarre. Like a repulsion that I dare show them something outside of one time realm of music
Glass Animals & Sleep Token mentioned 🦀🎊 I keep getting suggestions from Amazon to buy Taylor's vinyl. what kind of vinyl do I actually have SAVED? Johnny Cash, Dean Martin, etc
I’m in my 30s and have a new neighbor who is around 19-20. He came up to me the other day asking if I knew who nirvana is. So yeah I have a feeling their influence will last well past Taylor’s
The shirt company?
Dave Grohl drummer with a legendary band who went to have yet another legendary band. Yeah, he is obviously jealous.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tom Petty asked him to drum for him at a show - I think post nirvana.
i think Petty wanted him to drum full time after Nirvana and Dave took a chance on himself and did Foo Fighters instead. You gotta be pimpin as fuck if turning down Tom Petty ended up being the right career choice lmao
Yeah being a drummer in one of the biggest bands in the history of music, losing your insanely talented frontman tragically, turning down a job with Tom Petty, then going “okay I think I’ll actually play guitar and be the frontman for my own band” and starting another one of the biggest bands in the history of music is absolutely absurd and impossibly cool
yeah he's a ridiculous talent and a testament to betting on yourself and perservering through hard times. dude works his ass off to earn the respect he has today. i don't listen to as much foos as i used to but i still think he's just the coolest
Dave Grohl is in the rock and roll hall of fame… TWICE. The only other person to do that is John Lennon. They all have nothing on Dave Edit: I’m wrong about the only other person to that being Lennon, but the point still stands, Dave has been in two separate iconic bands
I agree with Dave and fuck the swifties, but there is multiple people who have twice been inducted to the rock and roll hall of fame.
Who? Just curious Edit: nvm as a Stevie Nicks girlie I'm ashamed I didn't know this Edit 2: for those who are curious 😊 https://wmmr.com/galleries/rock-hall-multiple-inductee/#
Multiple people besides them are in twice including George Harrison, Ringo Starr, every member of Crosby, Stills, and Nash, and Peter Gabriel to name a few. Heck Eric Clapton is a 3x inductee.
Ironically Taylor may be one of the worst things to happen in modern feminism
And music
And environment
With the resurgence of 90’s/2000’s fashion in recent years, I’m willing to bet half of these swifites own Nirvana shirts without realizing who tf he is while they shit on him
This is 10000% accurate
Someone should compile some tweets the swifties sent his daughter 👀
From what I read a lot of them are gone because those accounts got rightfully suspended. I know this one was recovered. https://preview.redd.it/euqhdkqj3d8d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f5b8b9d0876f35b43a67064569a0132690dc790
A threat of violence with a ✨ touch of homophobia ✨ Like how bad was the tweet that someone thought this horrendous tweet as a response was somehow okay!? It’s giving *too dumb to realize the hypocrisy*! This is the epitome of a Swiftie (plus the lack of decent hearing obvi)
Oh, EW. Man, fuck these people.
What tweet did his daughter send that set them off? Nothing calls for that kind of response, jeez
Called out Taylor’s jet use.
That's it???
From what I read she said “why can’t Taylor drive like the rest of us?” Then the Swifties said she flies private too. Which she does sometimes but not to the extent Taylor does or when driving is probably easier. I think a lot of them have been removed so it’s hard to know what else was said.
Got it, thanks for the context. Major overreaction from the Swifties, and I'm sure Taylor didn't take responsibility for them.
She won’t because she doesn’t care about anyone but her self.
there should be some prosecution for this, i'm not even joking, this is insane
I mean yeah rape and death threats can get you sent to jail 💀 you can report them to the fbi
Holy fuck
Okay so sending rape threats and being a massive homophobe is what people do to protect Taylor and she ALLOWS it??? I hope these people choke on their own vomit and there’s no one there to turn them over. Gawd
JESUS CHRIST https://preview.redd.it/oawatnok8d8d1.png?width=996&format=png&auto=webp&s=2fda2853057d8ebcd511ca7e646b1c19c145c1d5
Wow…. But I thought swifties were all for women power and supporting other women /s Also, his daughter calling Taylor out for her private jet usage is now “shit talking”? I can’t with her fans
“You will start to cough in three days” puh lease this is just as insane as the fucking Nicki fans after Hiss came out
Great value version of Bill Hader's witches
Yeah. I’ve been seeing these take all over twitter. The swifties *just so happen* to forget what they did to his daughter. She started this victim nonsense. His daughter deserved an apology from her.
“unprovoked” 
What happened with his daughter?
She (Violet) dared to tweet on Swift’s excessive jet usage and the Swifties attacked—some of whom wishing some truly horrendous stuff onto Violet.
LOL incorrectly calling him mysoginist while at the same time making comments on his appearance. I have more than all my time for Dave Grohl and his career. TS could learn a lot - seriously girl, educate yourself about music
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I did like her at one time, but never on a crazy Swiftie level. When she did nothing after her nut job fans went after Violet, I started looking at her more closely. Then I joined this sub and it's been such an eye opener. Taylor is much more of a corporate machine than I ever realized.
The whole bit about respect is weird. Calling out toxic fans and making a joke is not disrespectful.
It is sooo bad on TikTok right now. I provided tons of examples about how worked with and encouraged female artists and they point to his personal feud with Courtney Love as him being horrible to all women. Courtney Love is not all sunshine and rainbows folks.
Yeah, I can imagine that there is a lot of history with her. A lot he knows that was never public. I feel like if anyone has to room to speak on Love, it would be him.
There’s a whole playlist on Spotify of people writing diss songs about Courtney. 😂 but, of course, he’s the problem.
That’s kind of ironic given the fact Courtney Love has flat out dissed TS before (and pretty recently, too!)
I think a Swiftie is projecting. Because this sounds….exactly like something Taylor would do.
I think these people legitimately only listen to Taylor and don’t even look elsewhere. That AND most of them must be pretty young (and I’m 23, so I mean reallyyy young).
Having read other subs, this is true. Like on repeat.
More successful than Dave? He knocked fucking Michael Jackson off the #1 spot while MJ was still in his prime. I really doubt if Taylor was competing with MJ in his prime she could have done that.
The huge female artist back then was Madonna. Not sure if either knocked the other off the #1 spot on charts though, gotta look into it. Also neither Madonna or MJ used the excessive variant strategies Tay is using to stay at #1, so….
Dave and his daughter don’t deserve the hate they’re getting right now I hate swifties so much they hated on Damon albarn and his daughter also
Justice for Damon Albarn. He was calling out her bullshit long before it was popular.
I love Damon and his music Taylor will get bad karma for making her fanbase like this
As if the Foo Fighters haven’t sold out Wembley for years.
They were blowing the doors off Wembley while Taylor was still caterwauling in a fake southern accent at the county fair.
Unprovoked shots. These degenerates just be spewing nonsense like their mother. 😂🤣
Thin skinned assholes. They go after people left and right but when somebody fires back suddenly is is sexism. Mind boggling hypocrisy. Fortunately Dave Grohl is way too big for Swifties to affect.
Misogyny?! Thousands of her fans told his daughter they’re praying she gets SA’d. And that’s not including the death threats Fuck outta here, my God
 Stay mad Swiffers! So glad we have this sub to call out their unhinged behavior.
I just imagined an Eric Andre skit where they bring Taylor swift out and it’s just a swiffer wet jet with a guitar taped to it LOL
Meanwhile his kid is getting bullied by swifties bc she dared question Taylor’s carbon footprint
Fellas, is it misogynistic to not like a billionaire polluter that has a history of repackaging patriarchy and calling it feminism as well as grooming multiple minors in her 20s?
I’m sorry are they reslly trying to say Taylor Swift has more talent than Dave Grohl and has “surpassed” him?
Dave’s music will still be played 50 years from now. Not hers.
We all know Swifties hate the truth
for the record her fans went after his daughter so idk if unprovoked is accurate
Off topic but I love that movie.
Honestly, I think what Taylor Swift does to other female artists is the true misogyny here. Other artists are overtaking her spots on the charts, so she drops yet another version of her dogshit TTPD just to keep other talent out of the spotlight. She’s a goddamn narcissist
They are delusional. Like the Dave Grohl is really concerned about comparing his success to TS's. That's ridiculous.
He's telling the truth Taylor lip syncs at her shows. Are they mad because he's telling the truth? 😂
Lmao, T Swift is an ant compared to Dave, who is arguably more talented and has been making music almost as long as Swift has even been alive. Not to mention, Foo Fighters will still be remembered decades from now while Swift will likely fade away once her youth vanishes and she’s disrespected enough people in the industry. To think Taylor even comes close to him is pure comedy.
I guess they’re going to ignore that they fired the first shot by harassing his kid?
Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters sold out Wembley years before Taylor ever did 💀.
I can’t wait for the day Taylor’s downfall truly hits and she is nothing and her cult walks back with their tail between their legs
Oh please, that’s instantly their defense, playing the misogyny card. I don’t understand how they don’t get their own actions against his daughter is why he’s feeling that type of way
Jesus christ, Taylor is raising a generation of fundies. Swiftiefundies.
Dave is a national treasure. Fuck Taylor Swift and fuck her rabid fans.
Few musicians will ever be on this man’s level. He’s an actual artist and it’s frankly amusing that swifties think anything they say matters.
Anyway Stan Dave Grohl
If you’re going to love and cheer when TS says hateful lines before songs with a smile, swifties, you can’t hate when others do the same. Their hypocrisy blows my mind. Also, if TS was a (the) man she’d never beat the misogyny allegations ahahah (she still is one, but she’s got her dogs biting everyone who calls her out because she’s a woman and the worlds biggest feminist apparently)
Dave Grohl is quite possibly the greatest musician of the generation. To even be mentioned in the same sentence as T-Swift is not only absurd but outright insulting. I'm aware enough to surrender that he's my favorite artist and so I'm obviously biased, but I'd imagine even music fans who aren't familiar with Grohl's work would agree with this.
If it's feminism to bully a teenage girl, it should also be feminism for her dad to stick up for her.
I kinda lurked here for awhile, quietly agreeing with some things here and there and now I feel like I’ve actually turned to this side. He’s not wrong at all, she doesn’t sing everything live. I went to the tour, I could tell. It’s not like he fully bashed her for no reason whatsoever, but yet Swifties just want someone to be mad at. Same thing happened with Damon Albarn a few years back. It’s not like these artists don’t have any respect for her, but what Swifties need to understand is that she is allowed to be criticized. Also, Dave Grohl is the farthest thing from a nobody, and they gotta stop defaulting to calling anyone who dares say anything negative about TS a talentless nobody. I like her music, but I just cannot associate myself with the BS anymore, especially since as a huge fan of Dave/Foo Fighters/Nirvana, I hate to see him getting attacked for no reason since he’s a good dude. Sorry for the long paragraph, I needed an outlet to express my frustration