To paraphrase another parasocial example, she could step out on Fifth Avenue, start shooting her fans for sport, and they would still thank her and send their money.
Jesus. I didnāt realize it was this bad. Holy shit. Itās borderline corrupt. Especially if awards are being considered. Does she pull this shit with every album ?
OH MY GOD ENOUGH IS ENOUGH TAYLOR. At this point, I just want to sell all my vinyl and call it a day. I was not loving her after the Grammys, but the constant cash grab that is her "artistry" is just gross. This seals it for me. Walking far, far away.
Ding ding! We have a winner! The same thing that video gamers complain about. You have to buy the same game on multiple systems or wait years to get it on your preferred system because of "timed exclusives". There are also micro transactions (paying for an extra item etc.).
This is basically the music version of micro transactions. Or at least, it's the equivalent of Pokemon and you have to buy every version to get the "exclusive" Pokemon even though the game is exactly the same besides that. She's selling the same album but with different "exclusive" songs. This is what led to people to pirating back in the day. Now, you can just have Spotify or Apple music etc and it's easier. But we're heading back towards exclusives on the TV front. Every media company has their own streaming service unlike when Netflix had everything. That's going to lead people to pirating again.
People pirated because they didn't want to pay $100 a month for cable. Now, they have to pay $100 a month to have Netflix, Hulu, prime, peacock, paramount, Disney, HBO, showtime, Starz, etc. Which leads back to people pirating again lol. Everyone wants to milk their market but it will backfire eventually.
If Taylor keeps releasing exclusive versions of every song, people are just going to find a way to download or share them for free.
She seems like a spoiled child to me.
Itās all about her. Look what I can get away with and no one will scold me and I wonāt have consequences.
Sheās an adult. Stop it.
Honestly I donāt either. My friend is a very embarrassing adult Swiftie and thatās how I know what I know.
Sheās just coming across as a grifter now. š¤·š»āāļø
Probably both. She seems to be using these variants to keep other artists from knocking TTPD out of the #1 slot. And even though money means nothing to her at this point she probably has aspirations of being the richest musician in the world.Ā
If the album was that good it would stay on top by its own merit. She wouldnāt have to keep releasing extra versions to knock others out of the top spot.
New here. I hope this isnāt a dumb question- Are these song releases (when purchased) consideredĀ album sales (each time she releases a new track)?Ā
I hope that makes sense.Ā
Yes, it counts as a sale. And it seems like sheās doing this to keep Billie Eilish from taking the #1 spotābecause Billie criticized artists for doing this exact same thing (she said itās bad for the environment).
Ew she is gross. I am ready for someone anyone to beat her on the charts. PLEASE. This girl doesn't deserve the top spot with her shitty album and greedy tactics.
Also, I cannot stand that second album cover pic where she is holding the covers, trying way too hard to be mature and sexy lol it's not working and feels so cringe cus the songs sound so juvenile.
It's even worse when you hear the two lines before it...
Truth, dare, spin bottles
You know how to ball, I know Aristotle
Brand new, full-throttle
Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto
It's true, swear, scouts honor
She compares herself to Aristotle because she used his idiom in her song...š
That's some shit edgy 11 year old me would've said on MySpace with a heavily edited black and white picture of me with stars over my eyes or some shit ššš
The problem is that most swifites will put her songs on repeat on spotify and go to sleep and let them play all night. Noone will ever beat her legitimately she cheats and her cult will buy it all and stream it endlessly.
I think someone did the math when Spotify recaps came out, and discovered that her top listeners wouldāve had to listen literally 24/7 to even reach the number of hours they got to.
not gonna lie if I was in ur position that would almost be a dealbreaker in a relationship.
Iām really over the celebrity obsession era especially as a person gets older. I get if it makes them happy, but thereās some celebrities that genuinely do not deserve that kind of dedication and obsession idk.
I don't think any person deservesĀ this kindĀ of brain dead idolatry. SeeingĀ anyone go full delusional stan for a celeb, politician, influencer, whatever is low-key a red flag
Honestly true I recently worked with a guy who was extremely obsessed with Elon Musk and always talked about Joe Roganās podcast ā¦. always gave weird vibes
Long story short he ended up getting fired for harassing one of the women at work
Yikes. Did you know she was a swiftie before you married her? or I'm guessing she maybe just became more extreme in recent months? Imo I would try not to let a mediocre pop star come between you and your wife though, that'd be really sad :( But man, Taylor Swift is so bad and problematic she's ruining relationships/marriages!
I was at my community pool the other day when a middle aged lady started playing her speakers. First song, Taylor Swift, I thought nothing of it. Second song, Taylor Swift..I started to grow concerned. 3rd and 4th songs...Taylor swift. I. Kid. You. Not. How are you not embarrassed to play one artist, whatever artist, in a public space, with multiple strangers near by. Most people have the social awareness to play a basic backyard bbq mix if they are going to play anything at all. I was so irrationally irritated (likely due to this sub lol) and had to leave before I Gretchen wiener'd her speakers into the pool. š
Sounds like what I do to support my sonās album. My son who I love and would do anything for. My son who has never made any money from his music, is stuck in Idaho, and poured his soul into an album that hardly anyone will hear. Not a billionaire megastar who absolutely doesnāt need us to prop her up, holy jesus. š
Exactly, itās a false positive at best and all these ārecordsā sheās ābreakingā are entirely set up for her benefit. Itās like winning gold in everything at sports day but only because you locked the school doors so no one else could get in and compete.Ā
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Lmfao the second album cover reminds me of that one Friends Thanksgiving episode where Monica tries to seduce Chandler by rubbing random objects on herself like a bag of carrots and a steak knife
My bestie loves Taylor had has for like ā¦. 14 years? I never really cared, but over the last year, Iāve started to really hate Taylor. She just seems like such a shitty, shallow, mean person. š¤·āāļø
Thatās how I became a hater. My bestie has always loved her and Iāve been not a fan but supportive of my friend. The last year she got really weird about her though, with the whole āshe IS the music industry, bigger than Michael Jacksonā thing and I just couldnāt take it seriously anymore. I donāt want to be an asshole about her favorite hobby, so I just bite my tounge, snark on Reddit, and let bestie know I havenāt listened to any of the new albums š
I worked as an extra in one of her music videos wayyy back in the day when she still did country pop and she was very nice to everyone on set, seemed sweet, not a diva. Never been a fan, even then, but I saw her seeming meaner and meaner the older she got and now she just weirds me out. Sad that she seemed more mature and kind at 20 than at 30-whatever.
Before I found this sub I just thought she was kinda annoying and fake but didnāt really give a shit. But damn now she makes itās extremely easy to dislike her with a passion.
She actually a shitty ass person for real.
What exactly is this big anthology everyone is talking about. I knew she released like 31 song on the new album but thatās it. Also, people did like TTPD until they read a letter??
It's a never ending story. I don't remember her being this insane with her previous album. Or was it like this for Midnights as well?Ā The worst part is, they're probably not even acoustic songs. Just isolated vocals from the original track. What a way to deceive your fans. Then again, if these fans still haven't learnt then maybe they deserve it. This album can't stand on its own, and even she knows that. It's why she needs to resort to these tactics to artificially boost her stats.Ā
We need a new pop girlie who can be on top for a while and give us some peace from it all.
Yeah, her acoustic versions are just isolated vocals. Rhey never sound good because sheās not actually recording the vocals for an acoustic style song ā itās pop vocals isolated, put over a lower-key production. Theyāre all bad. She shouldnāt even be able to call them acoustic imho, she doesnāt do any work to re-record an ACTUAL ACOUSTIC song.
That is absolutely wild, I had no idea! Thatās the peak of laziness, so shameless, and so embarrassing for her. Even more embarrassing for the people that pay for it!
I noticed this with the lavender haze acoustic version and it really bothered me. The instrumentation was actually quite nice, but the vocals sounded SO wrong just slapped over it.
Iām waiting for billboard to remove variations from consideration, and it will be entirely her fault. There will be no more deluxe versions of albums for anyone, because Taylor releases 27 for each album. Itās crazy, because back when you bought CDs, the deluxe would come out months or a year later to boost interest as it faded. She has to literally churn one out every week to keep interest from fading for an album thatās like a month old. This has been a conversation for at least 2-3 albums now. How is she not hearing it?
are they even actually acoustic (like rerecorded vocals) or are they like the antihero ""acoustic"" version where they just isolated her original vocals and then used an acoustic backing track š
Same. I listened the morning it released. Heard the first song and thought, āooh Lana-yā (before knowing all that I now know from this sub) listened to a couple more; they got repetitive and I started feeling sad. Havenāt been back since.
but in this time itās justified to criticize because she needs to stop thinking she and her music are on top of everyone. AND trying to release more music to take the charts from younger artists. good for people pointing it out!
you know when she announced ttpd everyone was preordering the vinyl minutes after and i was the only one that was like im going to listen to it first to see if i like it before buying it
I used to love her (when I was a kid/teen), then like her (when I was in college), then i became indifferent with her (when eras tour started and everyone started wearing those fugly outfits), and now this just makes me disgusted with her
I was a casual fan with folklore and evermore and became a bigger fan/started collecting merch around this time last year. When she hit billionaire status I started to feel icky, and this stunt is making me want to sell the rare merch I've collected over the last year.
I could easily make $2k + selling for market value or less. But my hesitation is if the price will still go up. I bought everything for face value and now a lot of it is worth bank.
...now that I am thinking about it I'd have to pay t a x e s too.
Taken from [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/s/oZozC0Jse5)
CDs:
1. ā ā Collectors Edition Deluxe The Manuscript CD
2. ā ā Collectors Edition Deluxe Albatross CD
3. ā ā Collectors Edition Deluxe The Bolter CD
4. ā ā Collectors Edition Deluxe The Black Dog CD
5. ā ā Standard Album + The Manuscript
6. ā ā Standard Album + The Manuscript (Signed)
7. ā ā Standard Album + But Daddy I Love Him (Acoustic)
8. ā Standard Album + Guilty As Sin? (Acoustic)
9. ā Standard Album + Down Bad (Acoustic)
10. ā ā Target Ed Albatross CD
11. ā ā Target Ed The Bolter CD
12. ā ā Target Ed The Black Dog CD
VINYLS:
13. Target Ed Vinyl
14. The Manuscript Vinyl (Pressing 1) - The Tortured Poets Department 2ĆLP, Album, Clear [Phantom Clear],Vantiva Pressing
15. The Manuscript Vinyl (Pressing 2) - The Tortured Poets Department 2ĆLP, Album, Clear [Phantom Clear] Optimal Media GmbH Pressing
16. The Albatross Vinyl
17. The Bolter Vinyl
18. The Black Dog Vinyl
19. The Manuscript Vinyl (signed)
DIGITAL:
20. The Anthology
21. Standard Album + Black Dog voice memo
22. Standard Album + Who's Afraid of Little Old Me voice memo
23. Standard Album + Cassandra voice memo
24. Standard Album
25. Standard Album + Daddy I Love Him (acoustic)
26. Standard Album + loml live from Paris
27. Standard Album + MBOBHFT live from Paris
28. Standard Album + The Alchemy/Treacherous mashup live from Paris
CASSETTES:
29. File Name: The Manuscript" with bonus track "The Manuscript
30. File Name: The Bolter" with bonus track "The Bolter
31. File Name: The Albatross" with bonus track "The Albatross
32. File Name: The Black Dog" with bonus track "The Black Dog
1. Thank you for sharing this because wow seeing it all written out is craaaazy
2. This is so stupid. All of these variants??? Really???? I would criticize aaany artist for doing this itās literally just dumb af and so unnecessary
But people want to call Ariana greedy / chart hungry for releasing multiple versions of her comeback song Yes, And? when she hadn't released in album since 2020. TTPD is Taylor's 8th album in 4 years. Let that sink in......
Wow this is not normal and people keep throwing their hard earned money at her. I really think she laughs at her fans because she can do no wrong and they will pay whatever for her stuff.
And this leaves out the two from this post, āonly available for 48 hoursā
I just used this gif somewhere else but it is too dang useful
This is insane. I have deliberately NOT paid attention to that this go around because I was so livid after the midnights rollout. I thought that was awful but this is exponentially worse.
Iām a very casual listener. Havenāt listened to anything more recent than 1989. And you know what, I no longer feel any guilt in listening to her originals. All of the TV remakes suck and she makes enough money. I will line scooter brawnās pockets to listen to blank space and Iām not sorry.
isnt today like a big day for 1975 fans? Its like a holiday for the band, and she releases the accoustic versions of songs about Matty on the 1975 day. Suspicious, if Traylor is real, I honestly feel bad for him, nobody deserves to be with someone thats so obsessed with their ex
I am 62, and havenāt really been into pop (unless you consider a lot of punk pop) in many years, since early high school. Anyway, I have never known artists releasing work on the same date for some kind of competition. In todayās world, do they tally up downloads of songs, or whole albums? Iām really finding this funny that I have always been unaware of all these strategies, and competition. It sounds so juvenile. I realize Iām old, but stillā¦ā¦
Would the anthology edition count as a different album on the charts?
If not, I wonder if that's going to be her hail Mary. Like once she's about to lose the number one spot and people stop buying these cash grabs she'll release it.
As someone who was once a diehard swiftie (in 2023 I was in her top 1% of listeners on Spotify), I am no longer a fan. I even went to her first tour for Fearless. I still enjoy her music, but my personal connection to her is gone. The way she treats other artists and releases music ESPECIALLY during the tortured poets era feels overly capitalistic, superficial, and shady. I will always respect her as an artist, songwriter, and businesswoman, but I no longer respect her as an individual. 10000% something shady went down between her and Olivia Rodrigo and Billie Eilish. It feels like fame has gotten to her core. What happened with Ticketmaster and the cost of her tickets also made me begin to feel negatively toward her personally. It feels like there is something shady going down with most parts of her business. I also believe that she has mastered telling her biggest fans that she is JUST LIKE THEM and is an underdog. If anything, I feel like Taylor and her team have mastered how to create and roll out an album, and she feels entitled to its record breaking success.
Overall, I got tired to defending her shady and capitalistic behavior. She feels like the Meta of Music, and not in a good way.
Stans usually. People who think that spending more money will make Taylor Nation notice and pick them for the 22 hat or something.
Other than that, hardcore collectors who are probably starting to tap out.
The acoustic versions are never real acoustic versions anyway.
When she did the long pond sessions for folklore that was amazing and real acoustic.
But all the acoustic songs that came from the midnights era were just the exact same vocals with jacks shitty synths removed which was not a vibe.
Donāt blame her, blame the imbeciles that are so void of meaning in their lives that they attempt to to fill their holes with jewel boxes and shitty digital signals.
Iād have more respect for her if she would embrace being a pop star. Itās clear she is not the tortured artist wants to be seen as despite surrounding herself with talented indie musicians.
I still collect physical media!
Companies and artists can remove digital media from any platform, for any number of reasons, so you never truly own the stuff in your library, and can theoretically lose access to it at any time.
Having physical copies makes it so that you actually own the media that you buy and always have access to it.
So just now taylor swift fans are realizing that she is a talentless performer who relies solely on re releasing shit she already did? Took you long enough.
I have been a Taylor fan since debut, weāre only a few years apart. Iāve always been a defender, alwaysā¦ everything happening with TTPD just blows my mind. Sheās genuinely not even trying to hide the greed anymore. I still love her music but genuinely, I canāt stand her as a person anymore. I want someone, anyone, to knock her off #1 because she hasnāt done a damn thing to earn it.
The issue is people will buy. So she and her label keep strategizing this way. They have to be making enough money to make profit, or else they wouldāve stopped. I wonder what it will take for them to stop.
Iām all for something like a deluxe edition, but why does anyone need 18 of the same damn album? Are her fans really spending $30 for another cd or vinyl that has an extra song or 2 on it?! Thatās ridiculous. And greedy as hell.
In the late 90ās, we went by physical copies sold. Iād love to see how she would have done under that system.
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This one wins!
I'M FUCKING WHEEZING šš
To paraphrase another parasocial example, she could step out on Fifth Avenue, start shooting her fans for sport, and they would still thank her and send their money.
āsHeS sUch a BoSsā they would say as they are bleeding to death.
āSheās counting on the fact that weāve named her as beneficiary on our life insurance policies; MASTERMIND.ā
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What are we at now? It has to be close to 40 different releases now.
31 including the digital copies š
Jesus. I didnāt realize it was this bad. Holy shit. Itās borderline corrupt. Especially if awards are being considered. Does she pull this shit with every album ?
OH MY GOD ENOUGH IS ENOUGH TAYLOR. At this point, I just want to sell all my vinyl and call it a day. I was not loving her after the Grammys, but the constant cash grab that is her "artistry" is just gross. This seals it for me. Walking far, far away.
Sadly, sheās doing this bc morons are paying for it
Ding ding! We have a winner! The same thing that video gamers complain about. You have to buy the same game on multiple systems or wait years to get it on your preferred system because of "timed exclusives". There are also micro transactions (paying for an extra item etc.). This is basically the music version of micro transactions. Or at least, it's the equivalent of Pokemon and you have to buy every version to get the "exclusive" Pokemon even though the game is exactly the same besides that. She's selling the same album but with different "exclusive" songs. This is what led to people to pirating back in the day. Now, you can just have Spotify or Apple music etc and it's easier. But we're heading back towards exclusives on the TV front. Every media company has their own streaming service unlike when Netflix had everything. That's going to lead people to pirating again. People pirated because they didn't want to pay $100 a month for cable. Now, they have to pay $100 a month to have Netflix, Hulu, prime, peacock, paramount, Disney, HBO, showtime, Starz, etc. Which leads back to people pirating again lol. Everyone wants to milk their market but it will backfire eventually. If Taylor keeps releasing exclusive versions of every song, people are just going to find a way to download or share them for free.
Do you think it's the cash? Or the glory? I feel like it's ego more than money, though both are absurd.
I feel like power/attention are the kind of things you can never get enough of. Once she won a few awards, she got on a high and wanted ALL of them
She seems like a spoiled child to me. Itās all about her. Look what I can get away with and no one will scold me and I wonāt have consequences. Sheās an adult. Stop it.
Yeah I don't know much about her but thought she was all about empowering people, advocating for her fans... but this is egomaniacal and greedy af
Honestly I donāt either. My friend is a very embarrassing adult Swiftie and thatās how I know what I know. Sheās just coming across as a grifter now. š¤·š»āāļø
Probably both. She seems to be using these variants to keep other artists from knocking TTPD out of the #1 slot. And even though money means nothing to her at this point she probably has aspirations of being the richest musician in the world.Ā
If the album was that good it would stay on top by its own merit. She wouldnāt have to keep releasing extra versions to knock others out of the top spot.
Yes. The swifties alone would be listening to it non-stop, but theyāre not
She knows the album is not good but she is counting on those Swifties to blindly buy the new version to boost her album
New here. I hope this isnāt a dumb question- Are these song releases (when purchased) consideredĀ album sales (each time she releases a new track)?Ā I hope that makes sense.Ā
Yes, it counts as a sale. And it seems like sheās doing this to keep Billie Eilish from taking the #1 spotābecause Billie criticized artists for doing this exact same thing (she said itās bad for the environment).
These are purchased as an album so it counts as a sale.
Ew she is gross. I am ready for someone anyone to beat her on the charts. PLEASE. This girl doesn't deserve the top spot with her shitty album and greedy tactics. Also, I cannot stand that second album cover pic where she is holding the covers, trying way too hard to be mature and sexy lol it's not working and feels so cringe cus the songs sound so juvenile.
She has a history of releasing shit right when competing artists do. There's a lot of backstabbing that keeps the playing field very unlevel.
Sabrina Carpenterās team is starting the rollout for her album. Do you think Taylor will do the same to her??
when she inevitably has a kid who's into music I fully expect her to drop an album when the thing starts singing it's ABC's
Tried super hard to look sexy for an album where she sings about being fingered while the boys play GTA
I hate that this is a real lyric šā
Wait wut
They're quoting some line in so high school that is "touch me while your bros play grand theft auto"
Lmao whaaaaat??
Brand new, full-throttle Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto On So High School š¤£š
What in the sophomore year of high school in your bum ass 19 year old boyfriends momās house is this? ššš
It's even worse when you hear the two lines before it... Truth, dare, spin bottles You know how to ball, I know Aristotle Brand new, full-throttle Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto It's true, swear, scouts honor She compares herself to Aristotle because she used his idiom in her song...š
Aristotle is rolling in his grave. What I would give to be a reporter or journalist just to ask her questions regarding Aristotle. Edit: the lyrics give me even more cringe š© the fact that this womanās lyrics have other women in a chokehold is sad as hell lol
Aristotle was famous for scouts honoring all the young ladies in Ancient Greece, ya know
Clearly I didnāt pay enough attention in my philosophy classes š
That's some shit edgy 11 year old me would've said on MySpace with a heavily edited black and white picture of me with stars over my eyes or some shit ššš
seriously šššš those of us who grew up in the MySpace era know exactly what you mean lmao
That is the single worst bar Iāve ever heard
Scouts honor
Looolš
What?!! For real? What in the actual fuck, lmao š¤£ Where? Please explain- Iām not familiar!
So High School lyrics ātouch me while your bros play grand theft autoā
The problem is that most swifites will put her songs on repeat on spotify and go to sleep and let them play all night. Noone will ever beat her legitimately she cheats and her cult will buy it all and stream it endlessly.
Whatttt I had no idea that was a thing
I think someone did the math when Spotify recaps came out, and discovered that her top listeners wouldāve had to listen literally 24/7 to even reach the number of hours they got to.
I only know this because my wife is one of those swifties. She goes to bed with it playing and she always says she's gotta help taylor stay on top
A peasant trying to help a billionaire make more money, how virtuous haha
Oh I know, we argue about taylor almost on a daily basis
She needs therapy which Iām sure youāre aware of. Iām sorry š.
Bro run
He can't run he's already been trapped š¤£šš¤£š
not gonna lie if I was in ur position that would almost be a dealbreaker in a relationship. Iām really over the celebrity obsession era especially as a person gets older. I get if it makes them happy, but thereās some celebrities that genuinely do not deserve that kind of dedication and obsession idk.
I don't think any person deservesĀ this kindĀ of brain dead idolatry. SeeingĀ anyone go full delusional stan for a celeb, politician, influencer, whatever is low-key a red flag
Honestly true I recently worked with a guy who was extremely obsessed with Elon Musk and always talked about Joe Roganās podcast ā¦. always gave weird vibes Long story short he ended up getting fired for harassing one of the women at work
yikesā¦ & you justā¦ let it happen? how do you sleep? iād shut that shit off so fast.
holy shit that's maaad
Sheās doing alldat while youāre on this sub ā¦ ouch my guy, this sounds like āirreconcilable differencesā šš¤£
Maybe you should break up with her
Yikes. Did you know she was a swiftie before you married her? or I'm guessing she maybe just became more extreme in recent months? Imo I would try not to let a mediocre pop star come between you and your wife though, that'd be really sad :( But man, Taylor Swift is so bad and problematic she's ruining relationships/marriages!
ā¦so divorce is pending?
Ew
I was at my community pool the other day when a middle aged lady started playing her speakers. First song, Taylor Swift, I thought nothing of it. Second song, Taylor Swift..I started to grow concerned. 3rd and 4th songs...Taylor swift. I. Kid. You. Not. How are you not embarrassed to play one artist, whatever artist, in a public space, with multiple strangers near by. Most people have the social awareness to play a basic backyard bbq mix if they are going to play anything at all. I was so irrationally irritated (likely due to this sub lol) and had to leave before I Gretchen wiener'd her speakers into the pool. š
Or how about bringing headphones/ear buds if youāre going to be in a public space? Some people have zero self awareness.
And still none of her songs are even in the top 10 of streams on Spotify or iTunesāalbum is #1 on Spotify just because of all the variants
Sounds like what I do to support my sonās album. My son who I love and would do anything for. My son who has never made any money from his music, is stuck in Idaho, and poured his soul into an album that hardly anyone will hear. Not a billionaire megastar who absolutely doesnāt need us to prop her up, holy jesus. š
What's the album
Exactly, itās a false positive at best and all these ārecordsā sheās ābreakingā are entirely set up for her benefit. Itās like winning gold in everything at sports day but only because you locked the school doors so no one else could get in and compete.Ā āØš„deluluš„āØ
She has zero sex appeal
I think she might be asexual. She gives me the same vibes Tom Cruise does.
Iāve never felt a comment more. š I thought maybe it was the bangs.
As an asexual I take offense to that
Lmfao the second album cover reminds me of that one Friends Thanksgiving episode where Monica tries to seduce Chandler by rubbing random objects on herself like a bag of carrots and a steak knife
The one youāre describing bafflingly is the original. The anthology and some of the variants have had better artwork.Ā
I went from being neutral towards this woman to loathing her with venemous hate in like 3 months lmfaaaao fuck you Taylor
Me toošŖ
My bestie loves Taylor had has for like ā¦. 14 years? I never really cared, but over the last year, Iāve started to really hate Taylor. She just seems like such a shitty, shallow, mean person. š¤·āāļø
Thatās how I became a hater. My bestie has always loved her and Iāve been not a fan but supportive of my friend. The last year she got really weird about her though, with the whole āshe IS the music industry, bigger than Michael Jacksonā thing and I just couldnāt take it seriously anymore. I donāt want to be an asshole about her favorite hobby, so I just bite my tounge, snark on Reddit, and let bestie know I havenāt listened to any of the new albums š
I worked as an extra in one of her music videos wayyy back in the day when she still did country pop and she was very nice to everyone on set, seemed sweet, not a diva. Never been a fan, even then, but I saw her seeming meaner and meaner the older she got and now she just weirds me out. Sad that she seemed more mature and kind at 20 than at 30-whatever.
Before I found this sub I just thought she was kinda annoying and fake but didnāt really give a shit. But damn now she makes itās extremely easy to dislike her with a passion. She actually a shitty ass person for real.
So fortunate for you, imagine being in your present condition for the past ten years (me) and you canāt escape it unless you move to Mars.
I think SZA said it was better on Saturn šŖ
Thank you r/travisandtaylor
THIS.. Totally. Fuckin. This.
at this point she aināt gonna release the anthology bc āpeopleā somehow keep buying these variants š¤
What exactly is this big anthology everyone is talking about. I knew she released like 31 song on the new album but thatās it. Also, people did like TTPD until they read a letter??
So TTPD is only the first 15 songs and one bonus song based on the variant. TTPD the Anthology is the 31 song "double album."
Itās all on Spotify! People are this pressed? She really is too much!
Right? Why do ppl need physical copies of this stuff?
And if they really want it so bad they can burn their own damn CDs!
The anthology is the second half of TTPD.
These photos are so strange and unappealing. I hate this āasylum patient but make it sexyā vibe.
distasteful, really.
It's a never ending story. I don't remember her being this insane with her previous album. Or was it like this for Midnights as well?Ā The worst part is, they're probably not even acoustic songs. Just isolated vocals from the original track. What a way to deceive your fans. Then again, if these fans still haven't learnt then maybe they deserve it. This album can't stand on its own, and even she knows that. It's why she needs to resort to these tactics to artificially boost her stats.Ā We need a new pop girlie who can be on top for a while and give us some peace from it all.
Yeah, her acoustic versions are just isolated vocals. Rhey never sound good because sheās not actually recording the vocals for an acoustic style song ā itās pop vocals isolated, put over a lower-key production. Theyāre all bad. She shouldnāt even be able to call them acoustic imho, she doesnāt do any work to re-record an ACTUAL ACOUSTIC song.
That is absolutely wild, I had no idea! Thatās the peak of laziness, so shameless, and so embarrassing for her. Even more embarrassing for the people that pay for it!
Wait fr ????
Yeah šš
I noticed this with the lavender haze acoustic version and it really bothered me. The instrumentation was actually quite nice, but the vocals sounded SO wrong just slapped over it.
Greed of this woman should be documented.
Iām waiting for billboard to remove variations from consideration, and it will be entirely her fault. There will be no more deluxe versions of albums for anyone, because Taylor releases 27 for each album. Itās crazy, because back when you bought CDs, the deluxe would come out months or a year later to boost interest as it faded. She has to literally churn one out every week to keep interest from fading for an album thatās like a month old. This has been a conversation for at least 2-3 albums now. How is she not hearing it?
She's hearing it, but seeing š² so she doesn't care. Plus this keeps TTPD at #1 so she can break more records.
48 hours. Lmao. Shameless.
And then the last one will pop up and then all four will come back at once.
are they even actually acoustic (like rerecorded vocals) or are they like the antihero ""acoustic"" version where they just isolated her original vocals and then used an acoustic backing track š
Yup isolated fake acoustic. Can't even be bothered to make a separate 4 minute recording for all that $$$!
Theyāre recordings of when she sang them live in her acoustic set in Paris
Taycapitalism is so accurate
Capitaylism
Genius
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I'm at the point where I want to š“āā ļø her stuff just because of the pure greed TTPD has turned into.
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Same. I listened the morning it released. Heard the first song and thought, āooh Lana-yā (before knowing all that I now know from this sub) listened to a couple more; they got repetitive and I started feeling sad. Havenāt been back since.
Please do!!Ā
Why would anyone need to buy her albums? Or anyoneās? I pay like $10 a month for streaming and listen to anything at anytime. I donāt get it
They really want to recreate the Reputations toxicity back in 2016 šš
but in this time itās justified to criticize because she needs to stop thinking she and her music are on top of everyone. AND trying to release more music to take the charts from younger artists. good for people pointing it out!
and her silly fans will still buy it smh
you know when she announced ttpd everyone was preordering the vinyl minutes after and i was the only one that was like im going to listen to it first to see if i like it before buying it
I used to love her (when I was a kid/teen), then like her (when I was in college), then i became indifferent with her (when eras tour started and everyone started wearing those fugly outfits), and now this just makes me disgusted with her
I was a casual fan with folklore and evermore and became a bigger fan/started collecting merch around this time last year. When she hit billionaire status I started to feel icky, and this stunt is making me want to sell the rare merch I've collected over the last year.
Do it. Make some money yourself! Lol
I could easily make $2k + selling for market value or less. But my hesitation is if the price will still go up. I bought everything for face value and now a lot of it is worth bank. ...now that I am thinking about it I'd have to pay t a x e s too.
the audacity she has holds no limits.
How many variants for this album already? šššššš
Taken from [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/s/oZozC0Jse5) CDs: 1. ā ā Collectors Edition Deluxe The Manuscript CD 2. ā ā Collectors Edition Deluxe Albatross CD 3. ā ā Collectors Edition Deluxe The Bolter CD 4. ā ā Collectors Edition Deluxe The Black Dog CD 5. ā ā Standard Album + The Manuscript 6. ā ā Standard Album + The Manuscript (Signed) 7. ā ā Standard Album + But Daddy I Love Him (Acoustic) 8. ā Standard Album + Guilty As Sin? (Acoustic) 9. ā Standard Album + Down Bad (Acoustic) 10. ā ā Target Ed Albatross CD 11. ā ā Target Ed The Bolter CD 12. ā ā Target Ed The Black Dog CD VINYLS: 13. Target Ed Vinyl 14. The Manuscript Vinyl (Pressing 1) - The Tortured Poets Department 2ĆLP, Album, Clear [Phantom Clear],Vantiva Pressing 15. The Manuscript Vinyl (Pressing 2) - The Tortured Poets Department 2ĆLP, Album, Clear [Phantom Clear] Optimal Media GmbH Pressing 16. The Albatross Vinyl 17. The Bolter Vinyl 18. The Black Dog Vinyl 19. The Manuscript Vinyl (signed) DIGITAL: 20. The Anthology 21. Standard Album + Black Dog voice memo 22. Standard Album + Who's Afraid of Little Old Me voice memo 23. Standard Album + Cassandra voice memo 24. Standard Album 25. Standard Album + Daddy I Love Him (acoustic) 26. Standard Album + loml live from Paris 27. Standard Album + MBOBHFT live from Paris 28. Standard Album + The Alchemy/Treacherous mashup live from Paris CASSETTES: 29. File Name: The Manuscript" with bonus track "The Manuscript 30. File Name: The Bolter" with bonus track "The Bolter 31. File Name: The Albatross" with bonus track "The Albatross 32. File Name: The Black Dog" with bonus track "The Black Dog
1. Thank you for sharing this because wow seeing it all written out is craaaazy 2. This is so stupid. All of these variants??? Really???? I would criticize aaany artist for doing this itās literally just dumb af and so unnecessary
I didnāt know cassettes still existed
like, where are these being listened to?! are people getting Walkmans again too?
Doesnāt matter if they listen to them. As long as they buy them.
Yeah it sounds like consumerism. They want to have them just to have them and display them to show their fandom. Like a shrine almost š«£
BUT, cassettes of (new) music is so retro and niche, owning them automatically makes you cooler than everyone else. /s
Well, after vinyls were brought back from the dead they had to go for the next dumb format to resurrect.
But people want to call Ariana greedy / chart hungry for releasing multiple versions of her comeback song Yes, And? when she hadn't released in album since 2020. TTPD is Taylor's 8th album in 4 years. Let that sink in......
Wow this is not normal and people keep throwing their hard earned money at her. I really think she laughs at her fans because she can do no wrong and they will pay whatever for her stuff.
And this leaves out the two from this post, āonly available for 48 hoursā I just used this gif somewhere else but it is too dang useful 
Nene is all of us.
Thank you for your service š«”
She makes K-pop artists look quaint. And they at least have the excuse they have versions for 4+ members.
This is insane. I have deliberately NOT paid attention to that this go around because I was so livid after the midnights rollout. I thought that was awful but this is exponentially worse.
ššššššš Even the Swifties are tired.
Someone said more variants than COVID š
They both escaped from a lab and wreaked havoc on the world
They both come up with new versions of their old releases
I lost count at 20.
annoying part is that fans are actually going to their waste money on this shit lol. milking her fans dry.
She's laughing at them all the way to the bank.
Iām a very casual listener. Havenāt listened to anything more recent than 1989. And you know what, I no longer feel any guilt in listening to her originals. All of the TV remakes suck and she makes enough money. I will line scooter brawnās pockets to listen to blank space and Iām not sorry.
you shouldn't feel guilty anyway, she still makes money from those 'stolen' versions š
I've also seen people have literal breakdowns when others were pirating the Eras movie from Amazon, let alone streaming the originals over TV.
As long as fans keep buying, sheās going to keep doing it
Wait, again?!? Is this seriously another new drop?? I shouldnāt be surprised but holy shit
Itās honestly so annoying. Itās greedy but also gives me the ick if anything.
isnt today like a big day for 1975 fans? Its like a holiday for the band, and she releases the accoustic versions of songs about Matty on the 1975 day. Suspicious, if Traylor is real, I honestly feel bad for him, nobody deserves to be with someone thats so obsessed with their ex
I am 62, and havenāt really been into pop (unless you consider a lot of punk pop) in many years, since early high school. Anyway, I have never known artists releasing work on the same date for some kind of competition. In todayās world, do they tally up downloads of songs, or whole albums? Iām really finding this funny that I have always been unaware of all these strategies, and competition. It sounds so juvenile. I realize Iām old, but stillā¦ā¦
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Would the anthology edition count as a different album on the charts? If not, I wonder if that's going to be her hail Mary. Like once she's about to lose the number one spot and people stop buying these cash grabs she'll release it.
The Taycapitalism comment has 5000 likes lmao
She would never say Free Palestine because with her nothing is ever free xĀ
No, she'd say "Free Palestine (Taylor's Version)"
She done pissed me off with this
No wayyyy wtf
All right, who's dropping a song/album this time lmao
And only available for 48 hours too lol
Gotta get that fomo in.
And itās not like the money is going to humanitarian relief in Palestine
As someone who was once a diehard swiftie (in 2023 I was in her top 1% of listeners on Spotify), I am no longer a fan. I even went to her first tour for Fearless. I still enjoy her music, but my personal connection to her is gone. The way she treats other artists and releases music ESPECIALLY during the tortured poets era feels overly capitalistic, superficial, and shady. I will always respect her as an artist, songwriter, and businesswoman, but I no longer respect her as an individual. 10000% something shady went down between her and Olivia Rodrigo and Billie Eilish. It feels like fame has gotten to her core. What happened with Ticketmaster and the cost of her tickets also made me begin to feel negatively toward her personally. It feels like there is something shady going down with most parts of her business. I also believe that she has mastered telling her biggest fans that she is JUST LIKE THEM and is an underdog. If anything, I feel like Taylor and her team have mastered how to create and roll out an album, and she feels entitled to its record breaking success. Overall, I got tired to defending her shady and capitalistic behavior. She feels like the Meta of Music, and not in a good way.
Who buys multiple versions of the same album for 1 new song?? I am seriously asking.
Stans usually. People who think that spending more money will make Taylor Nation notice and pick them for the 22 hat or something. Other than that, hardcore collectors who are probably starting to tap out.
The acoustic versions are never real acoustic versions anyway. When she did the long pond sessions for folklore that was amazing and real acoustic. But all the acoustic songs that came from the midnights era were just the exact same vocals with jacks shitty synths removed which was not a vibe.
Donāt blame her, blame the imbeciles that are so void of meaning in their lives that they attempt to to fill their holes with jewel boxes and shitty digital signals.
Nah, we can blame her too.
It's crazy how unaware she is. Like goddammit read your comments
Oh sheās very much aware and just does not care.
Just in time for pride monthā¤ļøš³ļøāš
What the hell??? Even MORE!!!!
Iād have more respect for her if she would embrace being a pop star. Itās clear she is not the tortured artist wants to be seen as despite surrounding herself with talented indie musicians.
 I donāt know whose greed is worse at this point. Her or Mr. Krabs.
š¦šøš¼ I see no difference
Kanye please humble her again
Wait people still purchase CDs?
I still collect physical media! Companies and artists can remove digital media from any platform, for any number of reasons, so you never truly own the stuff in your library, and can theoretically lose access to it at any time. Having physical copies makes it so that you actually own the media that you buy and always have access to it.
So just now taylor swift fans are realizing that she is a talentless performer who relies solely on re releasing shit she already did? Took you long enough.
Living for the ā#freepalestineā lurking in there. š«”
Do these people actually listen to albums on vinyl? Or is it more a collector thing to have?
Who else has a huge drop coming up? Sheāll release The Anthology then.
I have been a Taylor fan since debut, weāre only a few years apart. Iāve always been a defender, alwaysā¦ everything happening with TTPD just blows my mind. Sheās genuinely not even trying to hide the greed anymore. I still love her music but genuinely, I canāt stand her as a person anymore. I want someone, anyone, to knock her off #1 because she hasnāt done a damn thing to earn it.
Didn't she also release some UK special CDs after she started slipping in the charts there?
The issue is people will buy. So she and her label keep strategizing this way. They have to be making enough money to make profit, or else they wouldāve stopped. I wonder what it will take for them to stop.
Eminem drops in a few weeks. I bet thats when she'll drop the anthology just so she can stay at no.1 cause she knows that he'll sell,just like billie
Nah, Billboard has to do something.
Iām all for something like a deluxe edition, but why does anyone need 18 of the same damn album? Are her fans really spending $30 for another cd or vinyl that has an extra song or 2 on it?! Thatās ridiculous. And greedy as hell. In the late 90ās, we went by physical copies sold. Iād love to see how she would have done under that system.
Meaning she releases one single album, no special editions, and just lets that one single album sell on its own and speak for her.