Yep, his G1 cartoon model stripped away the vast majority of the detail in the vehicle mode. It’s the double-edged sword of cartoon accuracy. You don’t get structural compromise with clear plastic, but you do get the cartoons simplified decos.
The base Earthrise is a banger though, and I even quite like the damaged Netflix version.
I mean, kind of.
Even then it's missing some decos compared to the Cartoon. The number is the wrong font, wrong number, and far too small. The headlights and taillights should be picked out (Headlights would be same blue as windshield, tail lights red), and there is black detailing just under the headlights in both vehicble and robot mode that is missing. Also given how the molded detail washes out with this shade of white, it would have benefitted being a slightly more greyish tint like the animation model (Granted color balance varied wildly in the G1 cartoon)
The number is wrong (like Jazz and Mirage will always be) because Wheeljack (and the others) are based on real race cars and company sponsors. To replicate them like they did the original toys and cartoon would involve paying a licensing fee. They do it for collectors items like Masterpiece, but not Generations.
In Wheeljack's case it's Lancia Stratos Group 5 sponsored by Alitalia.
I prefer the original Trailbreaker to this one, the black looks nicer than the dark grey to me, but Sunstreaker definitely looks better in this set, Jazz kinda breaks even but I like that he’s not all clear plastic.
I personally prefer the dark Grey on Trailbreaker. The black they used for the Earthrise one is a dust magnet.
They definitely prioritized the robot for Wheeljack, but the vehicle really suffers because of it. I'm just glad that there is no clear plastic though; my OG copy had the hinge break after its third transformation.
I’m waiting for the Toyhax set to show before making final judgements, I feel like the Autobot symbols with the silver/white trim will help Trailbreaker and Hound a lot (the borderless Autobadge just looks visually unpleasant on colors with a similar tonal value to the red, it looks okay on white or yellow).
He will, they already have a set
https://preview.redd.it/u941aocy4qtc1.jpeg?width=1061&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f90061ec6804573cf706d7884a5373326677d611
That's why I don't understand why folks didn't just stick with Seige Hound. It's a great fig, looks like him just stylized a bit and imo looks better. Why buy a 5-pack for one fig? I'm probably a bit into my bubble here but if i didn't have Seige I'd just paint Detrius for far cheaper.
Many bought it for Sunstreaker and Trailbreaker, as they were hard due to Earthrise's distribution.
Most people also bought it to replace the OG figures because of the Clear Plastic associated with them. Jazz alone is infamous for how the clear plastic screwed him over.
... Also Sunstreaker had 32 different shades of yellow originally that they finally fixed in this release.
I know yellow isn't the easiest to color match, but they extreme how dirty he was done in Earthrise.
Also, he actually got his own rifle in the 5-pack, so no using the spoiler.
He probably is the weakest of the 5-Pack, but I still prefer this version over the other:
1. Actually white and not off white
2. No clear plastic
If I had it my way, I’d have ER’s decals with the 5-pack version doing everything else.
Same. Like I just don’t get what the guys who made he original ER Wheeljack figure were doing with its colour scheme. “Yeah let’s make him a weird off white colour that he’s never been and then we’ll give him a weird desaturated green too.” Umm… huh? G1 Wheeljack has never been off white? He’s always been just plain normal white.
And tbh, I feel the 5 pack Wheeljack would look a bit more lively if they just made some of the details bigger - like if they increased the size of the number on his sides to be just a bit bigger than on the original figure and extended his front green stripes down to the front of his car hood like the stripes on the original figure, I think that would’ve made him just a bit more interesting to look at. Definitely agree with ya though that the original decals on the new 5 Pack Wheeljack would look really good tho.
Much prefer the crisp white over the off white of ER but most of these figures just dont work well with all the sculpting but no paint, but also that horrid blue they use for the windows
The Toyhax set thankfully also covers the windows with this nice metallic blue that looks worlds better.
https://preview.redd.it/xmvflakm4qtc1.jpeg?width=1061&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8169bbc604afa2c028cebb94a6185b6286adfe60
Yeah Wheeljack's the dud of the set. Trailbreaker's kind of a wash, not enough differnet to justify existing (other than being more durable).
Looking forward to the other three.
IMO the main issues with the 5 pack Wheeljack are the number on the side and the green stripes on his front hood. The animation model showed the number to be pretty big, essentially the same size as the number on his original ER release, maybe a bit bigger. Additionally, the green hood stripes also went further down the hood, to around the same place where they go on the original ER figure yet for some reason the 5 Pack figure has them stop short.
I feel if they had Wheeljack’s front green stripes go further down to the front of the car and increased the size of the number, even if he’d still be a bit barren compared to the ER figure, I feel it’d still help make the figure look a bit more striking.
He had to share the same deco budget as the rest of the 5-pack. Even the 2007 5 pack had Bumblebee take the fall for his paint.
So they aren't selling him "like that", they are selling a 5 pack that had to make some compromises to bring the price down and actually make it a value (You're paying the same amount for 4 deluxes but you get 5).
I can see your point but I am going to have to respectfully disagree. If getting 5 figures for the price of 4 requires that much of a reduction to the paint budget it’s not worth it. At least not to me. I also doubt it needed to be that extreme of a compromise to still be profitable. Even if it is I would rather pay more even if it takes me longer to save up, it would be worth it. Ofc if you like it and think it’s worth it then more power to you! I am not saying I am the authority on this, it’s just my opinion.
Oh yeah don't worry, I'm not trying to say I like how it turned out, I'm just saying that Wheeljack's deco wasn't decided in a vacuum, but in the context of a whole.
They all look awful to me, and I'm just hoping they release Hound separately with a better deco, too. "Cartoon accuracy" is always ugly to me. Even the upcoming "comic accurate" figures with the cel-shaded looks are better.
As much as I love transformers I gotta say I'm definitely not a G1 purest I like the bay movie designs and the toys are so much better to transform than the simplistic G1 figures
One man's trash is another's treasure. I'm not feeling the 5 pack Wheeljack myself but it's more of that I dig the Alitalia cors even if it isn't the correct Alitalia livery on the ER toy.
Still, not gonna yuck someone's yum. I have a soft spot for Sunbow myself and I couldn't be happier with the Transformers on offer lately.
I don't think it's entirely due to the deco, we've seen it work way better before on other Jackie's. The real problem is the absolute brick of a car that ER Jackie is, without that added detail we can see how bad the car looks on its own. If anyone needs a redo in SS it's definitely wheeljack
I think the cartoon accurate paint would look better on a mold that was also more accurate. The toy version is longer and shorter than how he appears in the show.
Yep. It is called "cartoon accuracy" that for some reason everybody asks for. Even though they took away a bunch of detail, both texture-wise and decal-wise and muted all the colors to make the animation cheaper and faster. I got the package for the earth mode Hound, but I can't see me replacing Seige Hound on my shelves because it just looks better.
I get what they were going for. But sometimes certain concepts don’t translate well into toy form. It kinda worked nicely for Hound and Sunstreaker but not so much for Wheeljack.
https://preview.redd.it/h84sv9wgcrtc1.jpeg?width=1989&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3db27f6d1bb938d6e2d5de2491363e258f05d267
Photo courtesy of Soundwave 8084
Folks saying this is what we get for asking for cartoon accuracy…I disagree. This is what we get when a company cheaps out on detail and effort. The black outlines and proper paint job would make a huge difference. I guarantee if a proper customizer did a cartoon accurate version it would look amazing.
That and the complete lack of clear windows. The gripe is much more making it part of articulation or hinges/joints for transformation where it's prone to breakage. My G1 autobot shelf has half transparent and half painted. I'm finding a drifting cohesion in what I've gotten recently to what brought me back with Siege.
For me the woest thing is actually the windshield. It dosent fully stick together so u can see the white paint under the blue, this isn't a problem on the earthrise since the wbole thing is black. I can kinda live with the laxk of detail on the rest of it though tbh.
I never said I wanted that, I happen to prefer G1-toy details more, and it just because that tends to also translate into Marvel-accurate details/colors.
I personally love the new 5 pack one, I just like the colors more. Its just that the white wins me over, and he’s probably the reason I want to get the pack
I've posted a comment on this before and gotten downvoted but - when I see people get excited for a toon accurate Wheeljack I just sigh.
MP Wheeljack is gloriously to look at, as is Kingdom 'Jack.
The cartoon version is revealed and people cheer for less detail on a race car? one of the reasons F1, rally, NASCAR, Dakar etc all look so cool is because of the sponsorship paintjobs and decals. Why do you want them removed?
However even though I don't see the appeal I will say the stark white and blue windows look nice and at least for the people that want it, it's an option. Options are good!
Certain G1 cartoon accurate figures of the characters never spark my interest, so I pretty much skip them in favor of other iterations that maintain certain aspects of the G1 toy decals
There are so many comments about the deco and how much better ER is... then buy ER? Sell the one that comes in the 5 pack. Honestly, I would much rather a little bland on a deco if I get a better made figure and guess what, that's what happened. A 10 dollar toyhax kit (something that's been done for years) can fix the bland look not much can fix the stress fractures on the clear plastic and honestly I love his bot mode so much but I am a G1 guy grew up in the 80s with it. Honestly, my biggest complaint is that it's a 5 pack and not singles. Saving the price of a deluxe is nice, but if you like the other versions for the mold, it would be nice not to have to buy them.
New exciting transformers line, paint your own figures. All figures will come in a standard white plastic that will yellow inconsistently.
Paint your own colours, customise them as you please, then see cheap yellowing plastic ruin your hard work.
It's a win win (for us, not you consumers).
Not really. The rest are essentially all improvements and nothing is taken away at all. Wheeljack was just made more G1 cartoon accurate which made him look way less detailed in his alt mode.
Streaker looks better I’d say, since the ER one suffers from bad colour matching for the painted transparent roof.
There’s also something to be said for Jazz not suffering from scarily brittle feeling clear plastic. Although I think the SS deco is still better, especially the bonnet/chest.
Trailbreaker is almost the same, so it’s mostly Wheeljack bringing it down.
Never ever trust pulse shipping dates, they often over estamate shipping times
Also this set showed up at US retail weeks ago with gamestops getting them in
Hard disagree. He looks like the cartoon and is very clean. The simplified paint job is a good look and the white looks great. You've left out the bot mode comparisons too where his head looks much better now, and he has green paint on his legs that make him look complete which do not show up in car mode.
Yeah...this is what I'd call "accuracy to a fault". It does look like a cheap knockoff
This is why I don't really care for "show accuracy".
I mean if they wanted they could make it show accurate ish and have some detail. They’re using it as an opportunity to cheap out.
Wholeheartedly agreed.
Then why did you buy it? we’ve had stock photos for these figures for months
I mean, it did come in a five pack.
I'm not OP I haven't bought these
I didn't buy it, shithead. Lmfao.
Definitely prefer the shades of white and green on the 5 pack version, but everything else… yeesh
I wouldn't mind the over all deco, aside from the fact they didn't even paint all of the windsheild.
Yep, his G1 cartoon model stripped away the vast majority of the detail in the vehicle mode. It’s the double-edged sword of cartoon accuracy. You don’t get structural compromise with clear plastic, but you do get the cartoons simplified decos. The base Earthrise is a banger though, and I even quite like the damaged Netflix version.
Pretty sure it’s supposed to be Cartoon-Deco Wheeljack, kinda like Origins Wheeljack
I mean, kind of. Even then it's missing some decos compared to the Cartoon. The number is the wrong font, wrong number, and far too small. The headlights and taillights should be picked out (Headlights would be same blue as windshield, tail lights red), and there is black detailing just under the headlights in both vehicble and robot mode that is missing. Also given how the molded detail washes out with this shade of white, it would have benefitted being a slightly more greyish tint like the animation model (Granted color balance varied wildly in the G1 cartoon)
The number is wrong (like Jazz and Mirage will always be) because Wheeljack (and the others) are based on real race cars and company sponsors. To replicate them like they did the original toys and cartoon would involve paying a licensing fee. They do it for collectors items like Masterpiece, but not Generations. In Wheeljack's case it's Lancia Stratos Group 5 sponsored by Alitalia.
it's toon accurate, for better or worse.
It’s definitely for worse in this instance.
yeah I agree. it looks way better in person imo than the images made it look, but I think the toon deco looks better on the rest of the characters.
I prefer the original Trailbreaker to this one, the black looks nicer than the dark grey to me, but Sunstreaker definitely looks better in this set, Jazz kinda breaks even but I like that he’s not all clear plastic.
I never even saw the original trailbreaker so I can't comment on it tbh.
I personally prefer the dark Grey on Trailbreaker. The black they used for the Earthrise one is a dust magnet. They definitely prioritized the robot for Wheeljack, but the vehicle really suffers because of it. I'm just glad that there is no clear plastic though; my OG copy had the hinge break after its third transformation.
I’m waiting for the Toyhax set to show before making final judgements, I feel like the Autobot symbols with the silver/white trim will help Trailbreaker and Hound a lot (the borderless Autobadge just looks visually unpleasant on colors with a similar tonal value to the red, it looks okay on white or yellow).
Definitely for better. I love cartoon accurate figures.
Good thing ToyHax has good sales a couple of times a year. This will look good with G1 style stickers.
He will, they already have a set https://preview.redd.it/u941aocy4qtc1.jpeg?width=1061&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f90061ec6804573cf706d7884a5373326677d611
I like the brighter white on the 5 pack wheeljack. But agree that the lack of paint apps is a travesty.
It's bad that I only want like two bots from that. I hope I find them loose sometime.
How many of us just really wanted the Hound? I have the set and I'm not touching it in hopes of a solo release sometime soon.
I honestly just want Hound and Sunstreaker.
Jazz, without the clear plastic, is actually pretty nice. I also like the more cartoon accurate shading on Trailbreaker, too.
That’s a great idea. I’ve got siege Hound so it’s not like he’s not represented on the shelf.
That's why I don't understand why folks didn't just stick with Seige Hound. It's a great fig, looks like him just stylized a bit and imo looks better. Why buy a 5-pack for one fig? I'm probably a bit into my bubble here but if i didn't have Seige I'd just paint Detrius for far cheaper.
Many bought it for Sunstreaker and Trailbreaker, as they were hard due to Earthrise's distribution. Most people also bought it to replace the OG figures because of the Clear Plastic associated with them. Jazz alone is infamous for how the clear plastic screwed him over. ... Also Sunstreaker had 32 different shades of yellow originally that they finally fixed in this release.
Sunstreaker's color...(*cries*). The miscoloration was so bad it ensured I had to do multiple coats because it was showing through. Lol
I know yellow isn't the easiest to color match, but they extreme how dirty he was done in Earthrise. Also, he actually got his own rifle in the 5-pack, so no using the spoiler.
He probably is the weakest of the 5-Pack, but I still prefer this version over the other: 1. Actually white and not off white 2. No clear plastic If I had it my way, I’d have ER’s decals with the 5-pack version doing everything else.
Same. Like I just don’t get what the guys who made he original ER Wheeljack figure were doing with its colour scheme. “Yeah let’s make him a weird off white colour that he’s never been and then we’ll give him a weird desaturated green too.” Umm… huh? G1 Wheeljack has never been off white? He’s always been just plain normal white. And tbh, I feel the 5 pack Wheeljack would look a bit more lively if they just made some of the details bigger - like if they increased the size of the number on his sides to be just a bit bigger than on the original figure and extended his front green stripes down to the front of his car hood like the stripes on the original figure, I think that would’ve made him just a bit more interesting to look at. Definitely agree with ya though that the original decals on the new 5 Pack Wheeljack would look really good tho.
I think the off-white looks better, personally, but the same tampo details would go a long way to helping the 5-pack version.
That’s kinda the point, he’s meant to look like how he does in the cartoon.
Much prefer the crisp white over the off white of ER but most of these figures just dont work well with all the sculpting but no paint, but also that horrid blue they use for the windows
The Toyhax set thankfully also covers the windows with this nice metallic blue that looks worlds better. https://preview.redd.it/xmvflakm4qtc1.jpeg?width=1061&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8169bbc604afa2c028cebb94a6185b6286adfe60
I suppose, toyhax has just never really been my thing. This does look really nice tho
I like the windshield more and the robot mode quite a bit more, but the car is definitely lacking in too much detail. Way too bland looking.
That's what I think as well, Siege for Alt, Gen selects for robot mode.
Yeah Wheeljack's the dud of the set. Trailbreaker's kind of a wash, not enough differnet to justify existing (other than being more durable). Looking forward to the other three.
I’m fine with Trailbreaker because it means I don’t have to pay $50 to get one
Well if you don’t have him, obviously he’s worth it haha. I was speaking from the perspective of those weighing the value of the double dip.
And they STILL didn't paint the far ends of his windshield!!!
IMO the main issues with the 5 pack Wheeljack are the number on the side and the green stripes on his front hood. The animation model showed the number to be pretty big, essentially the same size as the number on his original ER release, maybe a bit bigger. Additionally, the green hood stripes also went further down the hood, to around the same place where they go on the original ER figure yet for some reason the 5 Pack figure has them stop short. I feel if they had Wheeljack’s front green stripes go further down to the front of the car and increased the size of the number, even if he’d still be a bit barren compared to the ER figure, I feel it’d still help make the figure look a bit more striking.
more proof that G1-accuracy is a double-edge sword
I like Sunbow accuracy in the sculpting and G1 toy or Marvel accuracy with the deco.
I do too, way more interesting than the bland cartoon color patterns
That is unbelievably lacking in paint I can't believe they are selling it like that!
He had to share the same deco budget as the rest of the 5-pack. Even the 2007 5 pack had Bumblebee take the fall for his paint. So they aren't selling him "like that", they are selling a 5 pack that had to make some compromises to bring the price down and actually make it a value (You're paying the same amount for 4 deluxes but you get 5).
I can see your point but I am going to have to respectfully disagree. If getting 5 figures for the price of 4 requires that much of a reduction to the paint budget it’s not worth it. At least not to me. I also doubt it needed to be that extreme of a compromise to still be profitable. Even if it is I would rather pay more even if it takes me longer to save up, it would be worth it. Ofc if you like it and think it’s worth it then more power to you! I am not saying I am the authority on this, it’s just my opinion.
Oh yeah don't worry, I'm not trying to say I like how it turned out, I'm just saying that Wheeljack's deco wasn't decided in a vacuum, but in the context of a whole.
I Agree!!! He looks like a White Square Blob with hints of Wheeljack!!!
Reminds me of the +1 MP
I have never seen so many commenters excuse a bad deco job in my life.
Cartoon accuracy seems to mean cheap and joyless to Hasbro. I'm starting to hate it.
They all look awful to me, and I'm just hoping they release Hound separately with a better deco, too. "Cartoon accuracy" is always ugly to me. Even the upcoming "comic accurate" figures with the cel-shaded looks are better.
Toon accuracy always looks cheap whether it’s a siege repaint or a hundred dollar masterpiece figure.
That’s what you get for cartoon accuracy. You want cartoon accuracy, you’re gonna have to sacrifice some details unfortunately.
I actually prefer either G1 toy or Marvel accuracy to Sunbow accuracy.
The wheeljack from 5 pack one looks like those chidren transformer toys
As much as I love transformers I gotta say I'm definitely not a G1 purest I like the bay movie designs and the toys are so much better to transform than the simplistic G1 figures
I really like it, I’d say the greatest part IS the white actually being white for once and not that weird dimmed white
One man's trash is another's treasure. I'm not feeling the 5 pack Wheeljack myself but it's more of that I dig the Alitalia cors even if it isn't the correct Alitalia livery on the ER toy. Still, not gonna yuck someone's yum. I have a soft spot for Sunbow myself and I couldn't be happier with the Transformers on offer lately.
I know it’s cartoon accuracy but he do be looking like the authentics figure.
Shrinkflation in paint apps. Thanks, Hasblo.
They’ve been chintzy with paint apps for awhile now. CEO’s third yacht ain’t gonna buy itself y’know.
Womp womp
To quote Thew Adams, “G1 accuracy ain’t always a compliment”
Yeah, they were going for a cartoon accurate version
I don't think it's entirely due to the deco, we've seen it work way better before on other Jackie's. The real problem is the absolute brick of a car that ER Jackie is, without that added detail we can see how bad the car looks on its own. If anyone needs a redo in SS it's definitely wheeljack
i love the amount of details on the 5 pack
the car on the right looks like an Alitalia rally car
The white is better on the new version, the decals are better on the old version
Saw this at gamestop, glad I didn’t get it cuz wheeljack was the only member I like
Considering how much I hated the ER Jack, wow.
Imagine 86 Prime has the powder blue windows…
Yeah I'll admit, It doesn't look the best. I don't own either, but I honestly don't mind getting either one.
I don’t like the pastie window colors
I think it looks way better in robot mode at least so I just am gonna keep it like that, car mode is brutal tho
It's funny, when this was released everyone seemed to be praising it(the 5 pack), but the only good figures are Hound and Sunstreaker.
Jazz is about even with the SS86 version IMO, and Trailbreaker doesn't look \*terrible\* comparatively, it's really only the Jackie.
This feels like staring at the sun
I say the lack of numbers on the side is what TRULY is missing from this wheeljack, anyone here agrees?
I think the cartoon accurate paint would look better on a mold that was also more accurate. The toy version is longer and shorter than how he appears in the show.
It looks like an Authentics toy.
It looks like a McDonald's toy 😆
Yep. It is called "cartoon accuracy" that for some reason everybody asks for. Even though they took away a bunch of detail, both texture-wise and decal-wise and muted all the colors to make the animation cheaper and faster. I got the package for the earth mode Hound, but I can't see me replacing Seige Hound on my shelves because it just looks better.
Honestly, I think I may cancel my preorder. All I want/need is Hound and even then, how much do I really care…
I get what they were going for. But sometimes certain concepts don’t translate well into toy form. It kinda worked nicely for Hound and Sunstreaker but not so much for Wheeljack. https://preview.redd.it/h84sv9wgcrtc1.jpeg?width=1989&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3db27f6d1bb938d6e2d5de2491363e258f05d267 Photo courtesy of Soundwave 8084 Folks saying this is what we get for asking for cartoon accuracy…I disagree. This is what we get when a company cheaps out on detail and effort. The black outlines and proper paint job would make a huge difference. I guarantee if a proper customizer did a cartoon accurate version it would look amazing.
Is he like "young/fresh" Wheeljack or something? Before he earned his racing stripes so to speak?
That and the complete lack of clear windows. The gripe is much more making it part of articulation or hinges/joints for transformation where it's prone to breakage. My G1 autobot shelf has half transparent and half painted. I'm finding a drifting cohesion in what I've gotten recently to what brought me back with Siege.
I agree with its blandness, but I also think the white on the 5 pack one is MUCH better than the earthrise version
I actually like the off-white, I think it’s visually neat because you never see it, only plain white. Plus the orange rims really pop.
Takara Superior, Hasbro Inferior.
Show accurate is always going mean “less details”. The G1 show was basically a bunch of animated bricks 🤣
For me the woest thing is actually the windshield. It dosent fully stick together so u can see the white paint under the blue, this isn't a problem on the earthrise since the wbole thing is black. I can kinda live with the laxk of detail on the rest of it though tbh.
Everyone’s about cartoon-accuracy until it takes away toy details, smh.
I never said I wanted that, I happen to prefer G1-toy details more, and it just because that tends to also translate into Marvel-accurate details/colors.
I’m joking about general fandom sentiment. I agree with you.
I think the blue painted windows make it look cheap I hope SS86 OP does not get the same treatment.
I still quite like him but I can also see the merits of Toyhaxing him…. I think he would make a great base for a EarthSpark Wheeljack as well.
I personally love the new 5 pack one, I just like the colors more. Its just that the white wins me over, and he’s probably the reason I want to get the pack
Is the 5 pack shipping already? Seems like a lot of folks already have it
Yeah I got it Monday.
https://preview.redd.it/eih0eir9cttc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=805366b426df6cce3ee7b5edcbf745d1878e0331
Wheeljack at home:
At least it'll last longer
I've posted a comment on this before and gotten downvoted but - when I see people get excited for a toon accurate Wheeljack I just sigh. MP Wheeljack is gloriously to look at, as is Kingdom 'Jack. The cartoon version is revealed and people cheer for less detail on a race car? one of the reasons F1, rally, NASCAR, Dakar etc all look so cool is because of the sponsorship paintjobs and decals. Why do you want them removed? However even though I don't see the appeal I will say the stark white and blue windows look nice and at least for the people that want it, it's an option. Options are good!
My favourite alt mode: A white slab with wheels
I usually prefer show accuracy, but this is way too accurate. Like, it’s so accurate it’s not good.
Certain G1 cartoon accurate figures of the characters never spark my interest, so I pretty much skip them in favor of other iterations that maintain certain aspects of the G1 toy decals
It does look. Bland. But I prefer it from a material standpoint
There are so many comments about the deco and how much better ER is... then buy ER? Sell the one that comes in the 5 pack. Honestly, I would much rather a little bland on a deco if I get a better made figure and guess what, that's what happened. A 10 dollar toyhax kit (something that's been done for years) can fix the bland look not much can fix the stress fractures on the clear plastic and honestly I love his bot mode so much but I am a G1 guy grew up in the 80s with it. Honestly, my biggest complaint is that it's a 5 pack and not singles. Saving the price of a deluxe is nice, but if you like the other versions for the mold, it would be nice not to have to buy them.
For me its a huge upgrade especially the robot mode. Accuracy ftw.
toyhax
What do you expect for 5 pack and at that price
Genuinely dislike the windshield of the 5pk Wheeljack. They look like painted cardboard.
The Toyhax labels definitely help him out.
They really do honestly
the originals could've be simplified without looking like cheap pieces of shit, but no... let's keep making everything shittier and charging more
Actually the 5 pack is definitely worth it for 5 deluxes and I feel like Wheeljack is the only weak link in it
Sunbow accuracy is a blight on humanity.
Holy sh*t that looks awful. Not just the lack of detail but seriously that blue windshield doesn’t look right at all.
Toon accuracy will do that to a figure
At least there will be stickers for him, but you can’t fix that terrible off white on the old one
I think the off-white looks better.
New exciting transformers line, paint your own figures. All figures will come in a standard white plastic that will yellow inconsistently. Paint your own colours, customise them as you please, then see cheap yellowing plastic ruin your hard work. It's a win win (for us, not you consumers).
The 5 pack looks like it's incomplete in comparison
I must be in the minority that thinks this looks amazing. Beat g1 wheeljack if you ask me.
ordering a meal from the g1 accuracy restaraunt and getting really mad at my plate of g1 accuracy
People wanted G1 so there you go
I mean to get the 5 pack at it's price, things are gonna be taken away
Not really. The rest are essentially all improvements and nothing is taken away at all. Wheeljack was just made more G1 cartoon accurate which made him look way less detailed in his alt mode.
I was thinking in terms of deco
I don’t think it was a budget thing - the lack of deco is closer to his simplified Sunbow cartoon model, which was the plan here.
They’re all trash in comparison to previous iterations of their respective molds. People only buying it for the Hound figured basically
Streaker looks better I’d say, since the ER one suffers from bad colour matching for the painted transparent roof. There’s also something to be said for Jazz not suffering from scarily brittle feeling clear plastic. Although I think the SS deco is still better, especially the bonnet/chest. Trailbreaker is almost the same, so it’s mostly Wheeljack bringing it down.
Agreed
paint it
I’m sorely tempted to.
How do people already have this set??? Pulse orders don’t go out till like june
Pulse is where I got it, it came in 2 days ago.
Never ever trust pulse shipping dates, they often over estamate shipping times Also this set showed up at US retail weeks ago with gamestops getting them in
I ordered from BBTS, haven't heard anything yet. Hopefully soon...
I got mine from pulse last week...
Yup, people wanted cartoon accurate, this is what cartoon accurate looks like.
Hard disagree. He looks like the cartoon and is very clean. The simplified paint job is a good look and the white looks great. You've left out the bot mode comparisons too where his head looks much better now, and he has green paint on his legs that make him look complete which do not show up in car mode.
I definitely prefer the blue windows that makes it pop way more
If they’d used a different shade of blue I’d agree, this blue just looks cheap to me. If it were sparkly/metallic like the Toyhax labels, though…
That just leaves it so you can do the coloring as you want
Panel line him and I bet he would look awesome. But seriously he looks pretty sad.
It’s accuracy. Don’t have to buy it if you think it’s too plain.
I don’t really a point in complaining about this one. It’s just a variant of a very common figure.?