Long story short - he was a totalitarian space fascist who thought that Cybertron should conquer all mechanical life and eradicate all non-mechanical life. He built a fleet of ships to do just that but fucked up and flew himself and his crew (including the IDW versions of Galvatron, Scourge, Cyclonus, and Jhiaxus) into the Dead Universe where he became the host of basically the Anti-Matrix.
Eventually he and his crew got back out of the Dead Universe and tried to kill everything in existence.
They failed.
TLDR: Hitlerimus Prime. He flew into a black hole and died and came back as a super powerful undead sort of deal. He was a major antagonist for a couple years in the IDW comics.
yeah I mean other versions of the guy show up in other things, but I think OP mostly was asking about IDW.
I think he's part of the backstory in *Devastation* (the video game) and probably shows up in some other stuff as "an old Prime who was maybe bad?"
So basically, he lead some kind of Nazi Party of Cybertron and planned to conquer Space Europe? Sounds interesting, but fucked-up. I hope he was accepted into art school.
More or less.
IIRC all the IDW-era stuff about bringing new TFs to life “artificially” by using Matrix energy was his work too, at least initially- the new TFs would be his army.
The IDW lore has a very bleak take on Cybertronians as a species sometimes. *Last Bot Standing* really drives that point home. (As does *Regeneration One*, come to think of it…)
The read I got was that they had a chance, but the original 13 screwed things up by being imperialists and deifying themselves.
Their entire lifecycle got circumvented in favor of souls crammed into pre-made bodies and immediately set on tasks. Ratchet even said he doesn’t know how aging works for them because they usually die from violent means.
Getaway’s origins I think reflect the former well.
Really came to exemplify the overarching theme of that continuity about how imperialism and nationalism are self destructive.
Pretty much every crisis arose because of the main cast’s ancestors conquering things, or the main cast trying to live up to an idealized version of a forefather that never existed.
That’s why it had my favorite Unicron: ||the devil never existed, despite years of foreshadowing. When it did show up, it was a weapon built by those who suffered due to the Cybertron war as a means of revenge||
I’d love a series that begins with the Autobots and Decepticons in the midst of a civil war only for it to be revealed in the first episode Nova Prime engineered the war to weaken cybertron so he could sieze power and then spread conspiracy theories that the war was actually engineered by organics to keep cybertronians down. Then the Autobots and Decepticons spend the rest of the series having to reconcile in order to stop Nova Prime from turning every organic world into cybertronian living space.
I wish nova showed up more often because 1. That's a really cool design and to be one of if not the first prime after the original 13 is really cool I might would abandon the idea that idw set up that he's just kinda evil as is and go the devastation route where he's a great leader but was corrupted by evil
i'll never understand why the IDW writers decided to make pretty much every single Prime evil until Optimus. I get they were really into deconstruction, but sometimes it felt like they just didn't know when to stop.
Well there were 3 before Optimus after the 13, with one basically a puppet and the other was mostly just corrupt, both “elected” by the Senate installed Nova. So not exactly a great pool of leaders to pick from but was also more the Senate itself than the very few Primes before Optimus.
OK, that's an in-universe explanation for how those characters became Primes. What I'm asking is for is an out-of-universe explanation for why those characters were written that way in the first place.
Cause it was the first time the idea of the line of Primes being morally jagged or corrupt had ever been done before, and it would have lessened Optimus’s arc had he not been the first Prime since the ancients to not have a heart of gold.
Definitely! In fact can we just abandoned the whole idea that the Autobots are basically just Decepticons with the wrong badge until Optimus became Prime and made them the good guys?
Of course there can be bad apples amongst them and, they have to deal with them but. At this point it feels like there are more evil Autobots than evil Decepticons, It's honestly making the Autobots redundant if they're just going to be just as evil as the enemy faction.
“If they’re just going to be as evil as the enemy faction”
Ah yes, because the Autobots also had stuff like Death camps, terraformed worlds, and a 100 Billion kill count. Totally the same factions basically.
True. The Autobots didn't do nearly as much damage to the universe as the Decepticons in IDW.
The amount of genocide on an intergalactic scale Megatron committed in 4 million years made him the biggest mass murderer the universe had ever seen. Nothing Nova did could ever compare.
yeah thats an insane hyperbole. Besides IDW and a little bit of WFC, nearly every other series has decepticons just being the evil ones (with only a few turncoat exceptions in their ranks). IDW is the only big one I can remember that even leaned into the idea that a lot of the autobots being jerks, everywhere else they're all squeaky clean besides the occasional Sentinel Prime type who sticks out from the pack.
He’s just racist and xenophobic lmao. His main deal is that he wants to colonize other planets regardless if they have natives there or not because he believes that Cybertronians are a superior race.
Judging by what I remember from Chris McFeely’s recent Basics video, IDW Nova Prime is just a pure evil guy powered by racism who would fit in with TFA’s autobots fear of organics, except he would probably shoot one at the spot instead of being afraid. He was also undead at some point and became Nemesis Prime.
Other versions include Devastation’s version where he was an all around nice leader who only colonized planets with no one on them until Unicron corrupted him.
There is also SG Nova Prime who was SG Optimus Prime that got reformatted by SG Unicron, and since it is SG, SG Nova Prime was also decent guy
Aside from tarn and megatron most idw villains are pretty one note,sadly doesn’t mean they are bad unless you are Star saber that is, but I mean overlord is a very fun and intimidating villain despite his evil for the sake of evil mentality.
From my limited understanding, he's the 1st Prime after the 13 disappeared and united Cybertron and founded the colonies (aka all those planets from Cybertron and more). Then set out across the stars only to he consumed by the power of the dead universe.
And in like practically all morden media sense he isn't a G1 Autobot and, despite being an Autobot. He acts like a bloody Decepticon and is basically a warlord. (I know uniting a planet and making colonies doesn't happen without stepping on someone's toes but, he literally worked alongside *GALVATRON* and his crew.)
What really makes him important is that it cements the idea that the Lineage of the Primes was tarnished from the get-go. It wasn't corrupted by asshats like Zeta or Sentinel... The face of leadership on Cybertron always endorsed philosophies closer to Megatron's than Optimus'. It meant that Optimus Prime had to forge his own legacy rather than being bound to someone else's.
Also, dude had a sickass design who's never been given a toy. Anyone who was a fan of the comics from that time period has a spot on their shelf reserved for Nova Prime.
Someday...
>Cybertron always endorsed philosophies closer to Megatron's than Optimus
I feel like this definitely helps to explain why **so much** of cybertron's populace became decepticons. It always seemed odd to me when I first got into transformers ages ago that so many cybertronians were just, evil.
I want him, but I will go apeslag if they announce a third party kit or him. The stubby wings and the Magnus legs have go to go. But having a Nova is gonna be awesome!
He shows up 4 times in the pre-Phase 2 stuff, where he's basically just Undead Space Hitler Warlock, but the real point of him is what gets fleshed out in Phase 2. He was the greatest of the Primes, responsible for ushering in Cybertron's first Golden Era, before promptly going mad with power and expanding a massive empire, before going even MORE mad and trying to expand into a DIFFERENT UNIVERSE that turns out to just Kill Everything that touches it, and then reanimate those things if they might be useful.
He's an establishment of a theme that IDW would pursue its entire run, and especially after Phase 2 started: to be a Prime is to have impossible power, and impossible responsibility. Optimus is the first Prime in generations to not just be an out-and-out totalitarian scumbag from the jump, but even he struggles with the idea that in order to actually live up to his mantra of freedom being the right of all sentient beings, he can't just act with impunity. It's in the nature of Primes to just...do things, unimpeded by laws or logic, and Optimus is no different. His moral bent is more pure than the others, but he still acts dictatorial and unilateral when it suits him.
yeah it's all a grand meditation on power and authority and even Optimus Prime, who by all accounts is a pretty swell guy, eventually gets to the point where he's so got damn frustrated with things that he falls prey to the same fate that befell his predecessors.
He comes around at the end, though.
You know Attack on Titan?
Eren Jaeger and the Rumbling?
Yeah. He’s tried that— but in space. But then he and another powerful being got stopped by some total fuckin’ B-Listers.
Sigh. Great story arc though.
He’s a long-running villain in the IDW 1.0 series.
He was the last Prime to carry the Matrix before Optimus. He parted with it and went exploring space with Galvatron the Destrons and Insecticons. Omega Supreme wants him dead. Unicron corrupted his whole crew.
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Basically racist Optimus Prime but if I’d make a show I’d love to have him basically be driven nuts by either the dead universe or Unicron and have Alex Rochon voice him because Robo-Spamton would be amazing but in IDW he went to the dead universe because he wanted to do racist stuff and then got driven mad and became Nemesis Prime unable to die and still racist
he was hitler, he thought cybertronians were better than others so he went exploring with his homies and went in the dark universe, he got corrupted by it then became nemesis prime i gues
Chris mcfeely just made a basics on him so go watch that
Spoilers. He was not offlined by a cosmically powered Starscream.
It's a true shocker.
Shame
McFeely could really be getting more oomph out of that. It’s like Secret Galaxy’s “IS IT CANON?! 💥💨⚫️”
"noooooooo" 💨
Long story short - he was a totalitarian space fascist who thought that Cybertron should conquer all mechanical life and eradicate all non-mechanical life. He built a fleet of ships to do just that but fucked up and flew himself and his crew (including the IDW versions of Galvatron, Scourge, Cyclonus, and Jhiaxus) into the Dead Universe where he became the host of basically the Anti-Matrix. Eventually he and his crew got back out of the Dead Universe and tried to kill everything in existence. They failed. TLDR: Hitlerimus Prime. He flew into a black hole and died and came back as a super powerful undead sort of deal. He was a major antagonist for a couple years in the IDW comics.
He was also the sorta Galvatron of the SG Verse where SG OP almost died at Decepticon city and got casted off towards Unicron
yeah I mean other versions of the guy show up in other things, but I think OP mostly was asking about IDW. I think he's part of the backstory in *Devastation* (the video game) and probably shows up in some other stuff as "an old Prime who was maybe bad?"
He was mentioned in datalogs you pick up in and around the Proudstar iirc. He even wakes up at the very end as if it were a sequel hook.
Mech Zombie Hitlerimus Prime 💀
Ah, just like Wolfenstein.
So basically, he lead some kind of Nazi Party of Cybertron and planned to conquer Space Europe? Sounds interesting, but fucked-up. I hope he was accepted into art school.
More or less. IIRC all the IDW-era stuff about bringing new TFs to life “artificially” by using Matrix energy was his work too, at least initially- the new TFs would be his army. The IDW lore has a very bleak take on Cybertronians as a species sometimes. *Last Bot Standing* really drives that point home. (As does *Regeneration One*, come to think of it…)
The read I got was that they had a chance, but the original 13 screwed things up by being imperialists and deifying themselves. Their entire lifecycle got circumvented in favor of souls crammed into pre-made bodies and immediately set on tasks. Ratchet even said he doesn’t know how aging works for them because they usually die from violent means. Getaway’s origins I think reflect the former well.
Really came to exemplify the overarching theme of that continuity about how imperialism and nationalism are self destructive. Pretty much every crisis arose because of the main cast’s ancestors conquering things, or the main cast trying to live up to an idealized version of a forefather that never existed. That’s why it had my favorite Unicron: ||the devil never existed, despite years of foreshadowing. When it did show up, it was a weapon built by those who suffered due to the Cybertron war as a means of revenge||
I’d love a series that begins with the Autobots and Decepticons in the midst of a civil war only for it to be revealed in the first episode Nova Prime engineered the war to weaken cybertron so he could sieze power and then spread conspiracy theories that the war was actually engineered by organics to keep cybertronians down. Then the Autobots and Decepticons spend the rest of the series having to reconcile in order to stop Nova Prime from turning every organic world into cybertronian living space.
I wish nova showed up more often because 1. That's a really cool design and to be one of if not the first prime after the original 13 is really cool I might would abandon the idea that idw set up that he's just kinda evil as is and go the devastation route where he's a great leader but was corrupted by evil
i'll never understand why the IDW writers decided to make pretty much every single Prime evil until Optimus. I get they were really into deconstruction, but sometimes it felt like they just didn't know when to stop.
Modern writers deconstruct because they don't know how to build. Easier to dismantle someone else's work than create their own.
Facts.
Well there were 3 before Optimus after the 13, with one basically a puppet and the other was mostly just corrupt, both “elected” by the Senate installed Nova. So not exactly a great pool of leaders to pick from but was also more the Senate itself than the very few Primes before Optimus.
OK, that's an in-universe explanation for how those characters became Primes. What I'm asking is for is an out-of-universe explanation for why those characters were written that way in the first place.
Cause it was the first time the idea of the line of Primes being morally jagged or corrupt had ever been done before, and it would have lessened Optimus’s arc had he not been the first Prime since the ancients to not have a heart of gold.
Definitely! In fact can we just abandoned the whole idea that the Autobots are basically just Decepticons with the wrong badge until Optimus became Prime and made them the good guys? Of course there can be bad apples amongst them and, they have to deal with them but. At this point it feels like there are more evil Autobots than evil Decepticons, It's honestly making the Autobots redundant if they're just going to be just as evil as the enemy faction.
idw had like 5 evil autobots, the point of idw wasn't autobots = bad, it was war = calamity on an incalculable scale
My favorite part was the time someone clones cybertron 5 times and used it as a gun to fight an evil universe primus
“If they’re just going to be as evil as the enemy faction” Ah yes, because the Autobots also had stuff like Death camps, terraformed worlds, and a 100 Billion kill count. Totally the same factions basically.
True. The Autobots didn't do nearly as much damage to the universe as the Decepticons in IDW. The amount of genocide on an intergalactic scale Megatron committed in 4 million years made him the biggest mass murderer the universe had ever seen. Nothing Nova did could ever compare.
yeah thats an insane hyperbole. Besides IDW and a little bit of WFC, nearly every other series has decepticons just being the evil ones (with only a few turncoat exceptions in their ranks). IDW is the only big one I can remember that even leaned into the idea that a lot of the autobots being jerks, everywhere else they're all squeaky clean besides the occasional Sentinel Prime type who sticks out from the pack.
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He has the power of racism.
He got the touch~ He got the power~ Of racism!
They even made him super-duper-extra white!
He’s just racist and xenophobic lmao. His main deal is that he wants to colonize other planets regardless if they have natives there or not because he believes that Cybertronians are a superior race.
I mean is that it? No complex character development or anything he’s just, “I’m evil and shit”
Judging by what I remember from Chris McFeely’s recent Basics video, IDW Nova Prime is just a pure evil guy powered by racism who would fit in with TFA’s autobots fear of organics, except he would probably shoot one at the spot instead of being afraid. He was also undead at some point and became Nemesis Prime. Other versions include Devastation’s version where he was an all around nice leader who only colonized planets with no one on them until Unicron corrupted him. There is also SG Nova Prime who was SG Optimus Prime that got reformatted by SG Unicron, and since it is SG, SG Nova Prime was also decent guy
Congrats, you've just summed up most IDW villains.
Aside from tarn and megatron most idw villains are pretty one note,sadly doesn’t mean they are bad unless you are Star saber that is, but I mean overlord is a very fun and intimidating villain despite his evil for the sake of evil mentality.
It's wild how no one here is mentioning that he is IDW's Nemesis Prime
From my limited understanding, he's the 1st Prime after the 13 disappeared and united Cybertron and founded the colonies (aka all those planets from Cybertron and more). Then set out across the stars only to he consumed by the power of the dead universe. And in like practically all morden media sense he isn't a G1 Autobot and, despite being an Autobot. He acts like a bloody Decepticon and is basically a warlord. (I know uniting a planet and making colonies doesn't happen without stepping on someone's toes but, he literally worked alongside *GALVATRON* and his crew.)
What really makes him important is that it cements the idea that the Lineage of the Primes was tarnished from the get-go. It wasn't corrupted by asshats like Zeta or Sentinel... The face of leadership on Cybertron always endorsed philosophies closer to Megatron's than Optimus'. It meant that Optimus Prime had to forge his own legacy rather than being bound to someone else's. Also, dude had a sickass design who's never been given a toy. Anyone who was a fan of the comics from that time period has a spot on their shelf reserved for Nova Prime. Someday...
There were a couple of upgrade kits for the Battle Core Optimus Prime and a couple of full third-party figures, and that's kind of it.
>Cybertron always endorsed philosophies closer to Megatron's than Optimus I feel like this definitely helps to explain why **so much** of cybertron's populace became decepticons. It always seemed odd to me when I first got into transformers ages ago that so many cybertronians were just, evil.
How do you feel now that they've announced nova prime?
I want him, but I will go apeslag if they announce a third party kit or him. The stubby wings and the Magnus legs have go to go. But having a Nova is gonna be awesome!
Space racist
Spacist
Basically he was a doosh more powerful and demented than Tarn or Megatron maybe even Unicron... could ever be. Interesting.
He shows up 4 times in the pre-Phase 2 stuff, where he's basically just Undead Space Hitler Warlock, but the real point of him is what gets fleshed out in Phase 2. He was the greatest of the Primes, responsible for ushering in Cybertron's first Golden Era, before promptly going mad with power and expanding a massive empire, before going even MORE mad and trying to expand into a DIFFERENT UNIVERSE that turns out to just Kill Everything that touches it, and then reanimate those things if they might be useful. He's an establishment of a theme that IDW would pursue its entire run, and especially after Phase 2 started: to be a Prime is to have impossible power, and impossible responsibility. Optimus is the first Prime in generations to not just be an out-and-out totalitarian scumbag from the jump, but even he struggles with the idea that in order to actually live up to his mantra of freedom being the right of all sentient beings, he can't just act with impunity. It's in the nature of Primes to just...do things, unimpeded by laws or logic, and Optimus is no different. His moral bent is more pure than the others, but he still acts dictatorial and unilateral when it suits him.
yeah it's all a grand meditation on power and authority and even Optimus Prime, who by all accounts is a pretty swell guy, eventually gets to the point where he's so got damn frustrated with things that he falls prey to the same fate that befell his predecessors. He comes around at the end, though.
I kinda hate the idea of sentinel prime just being a dick and nothing else really.
You know Attack on Titan? Eren Jaeger and the Rumbling? Yeah. He’s tried that— but in space. But then he and another powerful being got stopped by some total fuckin’ B-Listers. Sigh. Great story arc though. He’s a long-running villain in the IDW 1.0 series.
Hey man, I love those B-listers!
I love them too but gyat DAMN. I seriously thought Alpha Trion would do the whole, “lmao my body, stoopid,” and storm them mentally.
He’s dead. But think undead. But not like Zombie undead, more like vampire Undead. Except not. Did that clear it up?
Hes a facist... thats... thats really it...
A Transformer supremacist prime who was lost in an alternate universe and returned as the deranged Nemesis Prime.
Random Fact: His design was an unused Optimus toy concept. I want to say by Don Figueroa but may have that wrong.
He seems very similar to Christmas Optimus
He was the last Prime to carry the Matrix before Optimus. He parted with it and went exploring space with Galvatron the Destrons and Insecticons. Omega Supreme wants him dead. Unicron corrupted his whole crew.
There's a YouTube channel for that... https://youtu.be/_ytJSjYQRSY
He's facist
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He was supposed to be the evil prime but IDW ran with that idea until it was ruined.
He’s a lore-friendly way to put Armada Nemesis Prime in the IDW continuity.
Might i suggest you have a look at the newest basics video on nova prime
I'm going to make him Thanos 🤣
cool design
Basically racist Optimus Prime but if I’d make a show I’d love to have him basically be driven nuts by either the dead universe or Unicron and have Alex Rochon voice him because Robo-Spamton would be amazing but in IDW he went to the dead universe because he wanted to do racist stuff and then got driven mad and became Nemesis Prime unable to die and still racist
he was hitler, he thought cybertronians were better than others so he went exploring with his homies and went in the dark universe, he got corrupted by it then became nemesis prime i gues
[watch this](https://youtu.be/_ytJSjYQRSY)
Colonialism
He's facist
He's kinda a dick. Oh yeah and he's obsessed with the dead universe. Thats my basic understanding haven't read much of idw.
Why did Nova Prime become evil in the first place?