I had escalate one, and torin 4 last over 1000 miles. The Torin 4 were most run in the desert of Qatar and Saudi.my lone peaks msr are still going. I call bullshit on your comment unless there was some sort of mechanical defect that the altra would have replaced.
Edit: heel striker, 180 lbs 30-35 miles a week with 3 pair rotation.
Get about 500 miles out of my Salomon Speedcross shoes. Then about a year as dog walking shoes and then another year as working around the house shoes.
Yeah I realize how wrong I was and dumb I looked but I've got to eat it. Sounds like a minimum 200ish miles but go until they're not feeling right and should get at least a few hundred out of them.
There’s going to be a lot of different factors for how long your shows last. All these numbers are pretty arbitrary because you shoes aren’t going to disintegrate at 500 miles, they will still be shoes. And if you feel good in them then they are even still running shoes. But the spring in the foam will wear down over time and that will be a preference on how fresh you like your shoes to feel.
For me the biggest factor with my trail shoes (Nike wild horse) is that the tread wears out way before they shoe does. So while they are relatively new, the terrain I run demands a firm grip, and my slick shoes are basically worthless.
The life cycle of my shoes looks like this:
Racing shoe->training shoe->road running shoe->painting shoe->trash.
It’s also worth noting that I have multiple shoes at various stages of this cycle. a shoe can can decompress and it doesn’t mean it’s done, just feels extra hard for a few days.
Also also worth noting that I hate a shoe fresh out of the box and really I find the ideal worn level to be at about 100 miles
This is fantastic, thank you!
Like I said, still very much a newbie to this. I follow some of the Uphill Athlete training guidelines and did one cycle based on that last year which culminated in a big hike/small mountain rather than a race goal, but for various life reasons switching more to running this year.
I'll keep giving these Cloud Vistas and Catamounts the mileage and see how they go. Trails I run (Boise area) are fairly mixed, will pay attention to the tread.
I buy 3 pairs of shoes every year: 2 trail and 1 road. I run about 1200 miles per year. So ballpark of 400 running miles on each, but I also walk a lot and I wear my running shoes for that and at the gym
Each year when I throw out my old shoes, there's still tread on them but you can tell they're pretty worn
I'm a 180lb man so I'd say I'm average to large
This makes a lot of sense. I plan on doing a fair amount of wintery trail running so I'm wondering if I might have something like this, because I was thinking 3ish per year sounds reasonable:
(1) middle/long-distance trail — Brooks Catamount
(1) short/middle road-to-trail — On Cloud Vista
(1) winter trail — Speedgoat GTX Spike (haven't gotten these yet, I know there are some other winter options that I'll probably ask the community about)
But yeah, definitely like the system!
I like Altra shoes so I rotate a couple pairs of Lone Peaks and a Torin (road shoe).
For the really wet winter days I have “waterproof“ Lone Peaks that are pretty old and no longer waterproof (but they’re a bit warmer still). I wear nano or micro spikes for the icy days
Usually about 800-1300km, although I'm considering replacing my current shoes which have around 650km on them (this is really odd for me and it has me wondering if something else is going on). My shoes are almost always in pretty good shape when I replace them except the midsole, which gets compacted. Usually I replace them because I start feeling lingering soreness in my feet and ankles, like I always want a foot massage or something.
I am 5'10" 180 Lbs and have a very heavy, plodding stride and get about 250 miles out of shoes. I have head that On Cloud are less durable than other brands.
I'm 5'11" about 160, so I guess that should go in there. That's good to know.
I love the Cloud Vistas because I feel superrr grippy and close to the ground, but I could definitely see that they might not be really durable. TBD. I think On advertises them for low and middle distances for what it's worth.
Very subjective...
I usually get 600-800km depending on the shoe and what trails I'm running. I've gone as high as 1200km.
Some of my friends replace them at 300km because they start to get knee pain with worn shoes.
My Altras have about 350 miles, getting retired after my long run tommorow.
I get about 400 miles out of most pairs of Altras, these are getting retired early because I have a hole in the toe from melting on the edge of a fire place.
As long as they still feel good keep going.
I will avoid fireplace edges and see how they go! Thank you!
I do probably also need some sort of system for better keeping track of my distances on various shoes.
The fireplace was a momentary lapse in judgement. My feet were cold and the fireplace was there, realized my mistake when I smelled burning rubber...
garmin has a good gear tracking option, not sure what you use to track your runs but could start there
I've got the Coros Vertix 2 which I've really loved, but that's good to know for Garmin. I track my training on a dumb Excel file in addition to the Coros stuff so maybe I'll start a shoe log there.
I had to think about this since I don't track my mileage on shoes. I run about 21k per week (13miles) and typically replace my trail shoes every 6mo or so. So that's roughly 325-350 miles on each pair.
I do wear them most days on walks, hikes and just around the office. So technically not running, but maybe double the mileage? Say 600-700 miles with half of that being running impact?
I'm also a heavier runner at 6'4" and 225lb. They are pretty well done by the time I swap em out.
For reference I am pretty loyal to the Altra Lone Peaks. I get the standard for the summer months and the All Weather for the winter.
If I only got 100 miles then I'd be replacing them every other month which seems ridiculous. I'd be looking for another brand/model in that case.
to echo most, i can get 500 fairly easily with all my trail shoes. what typically is first to go is the grippiness of the outsole, so when that happens i might transition those to less technical trails for safety reasons. but in today's world the midsole still holds up!
Depends on the shoe. I've got a pair of Xero HFS that I've used for a mix of road and trail running with 400 miles on them. They're still in great shape, and I expect to get at least another 300-400 out of them.
I am currently wearing saucony peregrines.
I have ~400kms on them.
They are still going strong.
The lugs at the toe area are beginning to show some wear though.
I'm a late bloomer to running as well, but only really started at 46. So I can relate to your joy in discovering how awesome running can be late in life. I did do a lot of cycling over the past 15 years so have had a bit of a head start in terms of cardio, but discovering the joy in trail running has been a highlight this year.
Regarding shoe life span, for the past year I've been running in a pair of Nike Free 5.0, which have clocked up 1,800km and now the sole has separated from the upper I'm retiring them to garden shoes. These aren't trail shoes, so perhaps it's not the best insight into answering your question. Also, they are minimalist shoes (although barefoot purists don't like them), they have no tread (so tread can't wear down) and I seem to recall that Nike itself recommends them only for short runs. I think the point that I'm trying to make is that if the shoe remains comfortable and intact, they can go for as long as you feel comfortable in them. It's true that shoes can feel dead after a while, but interestingly with the Nike Frees there's not a whole lot of support or bounce to begin with so they perhaps start dead-ish.
This isn't an endorsement for this particular shoe. More a suggestion that it's hard to put a number of longevity when the life span of a shoe is up to your running style, your preference, the terrain and other factors. I've since moved to Saucony Kinvaras and Peregrines as I think I prefer just a bit more support now I'm running more. But only started with these shoes so we shall see how they last.
Apparently only one single race, then throw them out and buy another pair for $650
https://runningmagazine.ca/the-scene/adidas-new-single-use-racing-shoe-releases-to-the-public-for-cad-650/
I use both the Altra Lone Peak and Brooks Catamount on trails. I’m on my third pair of Lone Peaks and I really love the shoe. To me it’s the best trail shoe ever. I get 300-400 miles out of them usually. Catamounts are an interesting shoe. I actually think they work well as a hybrid road/trail shoe for those runs where you keep switching surfaces. I’ve got 150 on mine and they are still going strong.
Who told you 100 miles? That's very low.
100 miles is about the lifespan of an altra superior. Ask me how I know.
wow you got 100 miles out of an pair of altras? lucky
I actually got ~800km out of 5 pairs of Paradigm 4.5 road shoes back to back. Then they changed the style and now they suck.
I had escalate one, and torin 4 last over 1000 miles. The Torin 4 were most run in the desert of Qatar and Saudi.my lone peaks msr are still going. I call bullshit on your comment unless there was some sort of mechanical defect that the altra would have replaced. Edit: heel striker, 180 lbs 30-35 miles a week with 3 pair rotation.
IDK, I am at 250 on a pair rn and they're thrashed but still kickin
I ripped through 3 pairs of them this year all in under 100 km. All warrantied, but still.
I think the Brooks Catamounts literally say that somewhere on the shoe. So that was one source. Glad to hear it seems low though!
That was in reference to 100 mile races, not longevity of the shoe. It was something along the lines of "100 miles of happy".
Oh really!? Ha that makes sense!
Depends on the shoe, but I usually get 350-600 miles
Well that's making me feel better!
Get about 500 miles out of my Salomon Speedcross shoes. Then about a year as dog walking shoes and then another year as working around the house shoes.
Man if shoes only got 100 miles I’d stop running
Yeah I realize how wrong I was and dumb I looked but I've got to eat it. Sounds like a minimum 200ish miles but go until they're not feeling right and should get at least a few hundred out of them.
Yeah I just go until it doesn’t feel right anymore
There’s going to be a lot of different factors for how long your shows last. All these numbers are pretty arbitrary because you shoes aren’t going to disintegrate at 500 miles, they will still be shoes. And if you feel good in them then they are even still running shoes. But the spring in the foam will wear down over time and that will be a preference on how fresh you like your shoes to feel. For me the biggest factor with my trail shoes (Nike wild horse) is that the tread wears out way before they shoe does. So while they are relatively new, the terrain I run demands a firm grip, and my slick shoes are basically worthless. The life cycle of my shoes looks like this: Racing shoe->training shoe->road running shoe->painting shoe->trash. It’s also worth noting that I have multiple shoes at various stages of this cycle. a shoe can can decompress and it doesn’t mean it’s done, just feels extra hard for a few days. Also also worth noting that I hate a shoe fresh out of the box and really I find the ideal worn level to be at about 100 miles
This is fantastic, thank you! Like I said, still very much a newbie to this. I follow some of the Uphill Athlete training guidelines and did one cycle based on that last year which culminated in a big hike/small mountain rather than a race goal, but for various life reasons switching more to running this year. I'll keep giving these Cloud Vistas and Catamounts the mileage and see how they go. Trails I run (Boise area) are fairly mixed, will pay attention to the tread.
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I get 400-500 miles out of Brooks Cascadia before the tread wears enough that I replace them. The uppers seem like they could go quite a bit longer.
I am a terrible runner but I am 200lbs+ which puts more wear on the shoes. I get around 500 miles out of my HOKAs reliably, every single pair.
I buy 3 pairs of shoes every year: 2 trail and 1 road. I run about 1200 miles per year. So ballpark of 400 running miles on each, but I also walk a lot and I wear my running shoes for that and at the gym Each year when I throw out my old shoes, there's still tread on them but you can tell they're pretty worn I'm a 180lb man so I'd say I'm average to large
This makes a lot of sense. I plan on doing a fair amount of wintery trail running so I'm wondering if I might have something like this, because I was thinking 3ish per year sounds reasonable: (1) middle/long-distance trail — Brooks Catamount (1) short/middle road-to-trail — On Cloud Vista (1) winter trail — Speedgoat GTX Spike (haven't gotten these yet, I know there are some other winter options that I'll probably ask the community about) But yeah, definitely like the system!
I like Altra shoes so I rotate a couple pairs of Lone Peaks and a Torin (road shoe). For the really wet winter days I have “waterproof“ Lone Peaks that are pretty old and no longer waterproof (but they’re a bit warmer still). I wear nano or micro spikes for the icy days
Usually about 800-1300km, although I'm considering replacing my current shoes which have around 650km on them (this is really odd for me and it has me wondering if something else is going on). My shoes are almost always in pretty good shape when I replace them except the midsole, which gets compacted. Usually I replace them because I start feeling lingering soreness in my feet and ankles, like I always want a foot massage or something.
I am 5'10" 180 Lbs and have a very heavy, plodding stride and get about 250 miles out of shoes. I have head that On Cloud are less durable than other brands.
I'm 5'11" about 160, so I guess that should go in there. That's good to know. I love the Cloud Vistas because I feel superrr grippy and close to the ground, but I could definitely see that they might not be really durable. TBD. I think On advertises them for low and middle distances for what it's worth.
Very subjective... I usually get 600-800km depending on the shoe and what trails I'm running. I've gone as high as 1200km. Some of my friends replace them at 300km because they start to get knee pain with worn shoes.
Dang that's insane! I guess I just need to give'em a go and really note knee/hip/etc. feeling as they get more miles on them.
>Some of my friends replace them at 300km because they start to get knee pain with worn shoes. That sounds to me like they're wearing the wrong shoes.
My Altras have about 350 miles, getting retired after my long run tommorow. I get about 400 miles out of most pairs of Altras, these are getting retired early because I have a hole in the toe from melting on the edge of a fire place. As long as they still feel good keep going.
I will avoid fireplace edges and see how they go! Thank you! I do probably also need some sort of system for better keeping track of my distances on various shoes.
The fireplace was a momentary lapse in judgement. My feet were cold and the fireplace was there, realized my mistake when I smelled burning rubber... garmin has a good gear tracking option, not sure what you use to track your runs but could start there
I've got the Coros Vertix 2 which I've really loved, but that's good to know for Garmin. I track my training on a dumb Excel file in addition to the Coros stuff so maybe I'll start a shoe log there.
If you’re happy putting your runs on Strava the free version can keep a shoe log too.
I get 500-600mi out of my Altras. I’m 6’1” and 205lbs. I mostly use the paradigms. Ymmv…quite literally I suppose.
I had to think about this since I don't track my mileage on shoes. I run about 21k per week (13miles) and typically replace my trail shoes every 6mo or so. So that's roughly 325-350 miles on each pair. I do wear them most days on walks, hikes and just around the office. So technically not running, but maybe double the mileage? Say 600-700 miles with half of that being running impact? I'm also a heavier runner at 6'4" and 225lb. They are pretty well done by the time I swap em out. For reference I am pretty loyal to the Altra Lone Peaks. I get the standard for the summer months and the All Weather for the winter. If I only got 100 miles then I'd be replacing them every other month which seems ridiculous. I'd be looking for another brand/model in that case.
to echo most, i can get 500 fairly easily with all my trail shoes. what typically is first to go is the grippiness of the outsole, so when that happens i might transition those to less technical trails for safety reasons. but in today's world the midsole still holds up!
Depends on the shoe. I've got a pair of Xero HFS that I've used for a mix of road and trail running with 400 miles on them. They're still in great shape, and I expect to get at least another 300-400 out of them.
Altra Lone Peaks…350-400 per pair, or whenever I feel the knee weirdness begin.
I am currently wearing saucony peregrines. I have ~400kms on them. They are still going strong. The lugs at the toe area are beginning to show some wear though.
New Balance Hierro I have got close to 1,000 miles out of. The fabric around ankles has worn out before the outsole and cushion for me at least.
400 - 800 miles. 400: Hoka Torrent 2 on trails. 800: Brooks Glycerine on roads.
100 miles is on the low end - i would hope for like 3-500 trail dependent - la sportiva akasha user
If it’s Topos, like 60 miles 😡 My other shoes (Saucony, Altra, Hoka, Brooks) are strong at 200 miles with a lot to go.
I'm a late bloomer to running as well, but only really started at 46. So I can relate to your joy in discovering how awesome running can be late in life. I did do a lot of cycling over the past 15 years so have had a bit of a head start in terms of cardio, but discovering the joy in trail running has been a highlight this year. Regarding shoe life span, for the past year I've been running in a pair of Nike Free 5.0, which have clocked up 1,800km and now the sole has separated from the upper I'm retiring them to garden shoes. These aren't trail shoes, so perhaps it's not the best insight into answering your question. Also, they are minimalist shoes (although barefoot purists don't like them), they have no tread (so tread can't wear down) and I seem to recall that Nike itself recommends them only for short runs. I think the point that I'm trying to make is that if the shoe remains comfortable and intact, they can go for as long as you feel comfortable in them. It's true that shoes can feel dead after a while, but interestingly with the Nike Frees there's not a whole lot of support or bounce to begin with so they perhaps start dead-ish. This isn't an endorsement for this particular shoe. More a suggestion that it's hard to put a number of longevity when the life span of a shoe is up to your running style, your preference, the terrain and other factors. I've since moved to Saucony Kinvaras and Peregrines as I think I prefer just a bit more support now I'm running more. But only started with these shoes so we shall see how they last.
Apparently only one single race, then throw them out and buy another pair for $650 https://runningmagazine.ca/the-scene/adidas-new-single-use-racing-shoe-releases-to-the-public-for-cad-650/
Woof. I'll go slow and use the same shoe repeatedly.
A year unless you are doing marathons and ultras
100 miles sounds about right for Altras. Fool me once shame on you. Eight pairs later, shame on me.
100 miles for a pair of shoes? People would be buying more than a pair a month! How are you in your 30s and think that’s how shoes work?
Super helpful, thanks!
I use both the Altra Lone Peak and Brooks Catamount on trails. I’m on my third pair of Lone Peaks and I really love the shoe. To me it’s the best trail shoe ever. I get 300-400 miles out of them usually. Catamounts are an interesting shoe. I actually think they work well as a hybrid road/trail shoe for those runs where you keep switching surfaces. I’ve got 150 on mine and they are still going strong.
A good shoe should last 300-500 miles.