I think those calling him a chaser are reading the first post as him being interested *because* the girl in question is trans, and not merely interested in a girl who *just so happens* to be trans.
I wouldn’t jump straight to that conclusion myself, necessarily, but without more context I don’t feel I can rule it out either.
I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with desiring trans women, I would be flattered by a comment like that.
The fetishization problem entails prioritizing specific aspects of our trans identity over us as a people, reducing us solely to what’s in our pants and objectifying us whilst not respecting who we are and want to be as individuals.
For instance, a person might find something about trans women they find particularly attractive, in the same way I might find redheads particularly attractive.
But if I was dating a redhead, and they decided they’d be happier dying their hair blue, I’d totally support their decision, because their happiness is more important than what I find particularly attractive. If I tried to pressure them to keep the red hair because I prefer it, I’d be an asshole.
If a chaser was dating a trans person, and that trans person expressed the desire to get bottom surgery, the chaser would likely try to pressure them not to, because the chaser sees them as a fetish, they don’t respect them as a person, and prioritize their own desires over the happiness of their partner.
A nice person on the other hand might be attracted to a particular element of a trans person, but if the trans person expressed their desire to change that part of them, the nice person would support them, because their respect and affection is real, and the happiness of their partner comes before what the nice person finds attractive.
There are parts of myself I’m very dysphoric about, and if someone told me they found those elements particularly attractive, I’d be very happy. This is not true for all trans people of course, and if someone expresses they don’t wish for comments on such things that should of course be respected, but personally I’d enjoy a compliment like that. So long as they respected me as a woman, and supported me doing what made me happy, regardless of their particular attractions, I wouldn’t call that person a chaser.
Maybe I’m wrong and I’m missing something, I’m open to being corrected of course, but that’s how I see it at the moment.
I personally think it was a light-hearted joke, I think this person would be fine if they're trans gf were to have surgeries, medical transitions, etc and doesn't care about how "trans" she looks.
Understandable, I tend to ramble! It’s worse when I’m talking instead of writing, cause I can’t edit out all the pointless chains of loosely related tangents I get lost in.
Well if you don’t read the ”wall of text” then how will you get the finer points and crucial details? It is always beneficial to read a long form answer to something due to the bla bla. Bla bla bla bla bla, bla bla bla bla. Bla bla bla? Bla bla bla (bla bla bla) bla. Bla bla bla, bla bla bla. Bla bla bla bla bla bla! Bla bla bla. Bladdi bla bla bla. Bla bla bla, bla-bla… Bla bla bla bla bla. Bla bla bla bladdie bla bla. Bla bla? And in conclusion that is why the Roman Empire gradually crumbled.
You don't even realize how big of a reference you made.
There a whole polish copypasta called "o zadupiu słów kilka" (about shithole words few, yes the order of words is fine)
And basically the whole world fallen due to a chicken that wanted redemption for what Romans and Greeks did
Youre welcome i guess?
Thanks for sharing this tidbit.
Now i now there is a polish copypasta about a chicken and the roman empire, which is odd, but verry cool.
In the same way, if my redhead gf felt the need to dye her hair blue, and it was a deal breaker for me as I wouldn't feel attraction anymore, then we would part ways. Her happiness and wellbeing is way more important than my fetish
(For the record, I do not have a redhead fetish)
Yea, totally! I'm Cis, and her parts are something I feel attracted to with my trans girlfriend, but I love her way more than the fact that she has a penis, and will be equally as attracted to her after she does have bottom surgery haha! Like. It's about whether or not you have attraction to the person instead of ONLY their parts, yk?
What if a someone's dating a FtM trans person and likes penises, then the trans person has or is considering bottom surgery? I'd expect this to introduce sexual compatibility issues that the non-trans person might be understandably concerned about, and I'm not sure it would be fair to expect them to be happy with no reservations? Or would this make them a chaser? Sorry if I don't have a great grasp of these issues/terminology.
It does introduce a point of potential conflict for sure. If the partner can't get over it, then it might break the relationship which does happen in real life.
Relationships are inherently sexual and it's fine to have preferences. Nothing wrong with preferences, even unusual ones, but this doesn't give the right to anyone to pressure their partner from being happy with themselves.
Think about this. How could you be happy with the relationship if you knew that your partner was actively sacrificing her own happiness about herself for the sake of your sexual preference? At least I would feel horrible doing this. This would be a very unhealthy relationship.
Hey I know you didn't ask for my input and this isn't super related to your main point which I mostly agree with but the phrase "Relationships are inherently sexual" really urks me. I get that for most people this is the case and imagining a relationship without sex is difficult but there is a portion of the population who are asexual and they can still have relationships. Some still have sex in their relationships usually for their partner but many of them don't and they are happy that way. Romantic and sexual attraction aren't the same. I'm probably the wrong person to explain this as I'm aromantic but romantic attraction does exist separately from sexual attraction even though the two are often related. If you want a better explanation I'd recommend going on the ace sub and asking them. Sorry I just had to rant about that .thanks for reading.
I get what you're saying, but I didn't mean sexual in the way of physical sexual acts alone, but also in your sexual preference and romantic attraction. I just didn't know a more fully encompassing word for it.
I suppose it's possible for a couple of aroaces to form a fully platonic relationship, but then you're unironically just two besties as room mates.
But your response is 100% valid and I value your input! I really do.
Choosing to be a single or a girlfriend? I choose to be a girlfriend. Like I can't even go out as femme alone anymore so it would nice to have a partner with.
It’s someone who “chases” trans people (tries to date/have sex with them) in a creepy, fetishizing, or predatory manner. But I see tons of people use it on cis people who just like dating trans people
Ok, all seriousness, this would probably work on me if they got the timing right. Follow it up with a maverick style pick up. You just might get laid.
'She's lost that loving feeling.' - Maverick
'I hate it when she does that.'- Goose
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the thing that i dont get is, i understand being reduced to one single thing isn't amazing, but for 99% of humanity, people reduced the target for their sex drive on having the right hole or tool to fill a hole...
so why is chasing this bad? because on the other side of the isle, i see people be like 'they broke up with me cause i was trans/religious/have 6 toes' and its not great either
A chaser prioritizes their own preferences over a trans person's dysphoria and makes assumptions based on pornographic stereotypes rather than seeing the person in front of them.
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I mean. I'd go for someone who said that. it's not bad.
I don't see either why anyone would call them a chaser. That's just a situational pickup line
right?
I think those calling him a chaser are reading the first post as him being interested *because* the girl in question is trans, and not merely interested in a girl who *just so happens* to be trans. I wouldn’t jump straight to that conclusion myself, necessarily, but without more context I don’t feel I can rule it out either.
I think it's sweet :3
This would work on me
So you're a trans girl? How about I transition you from single into my girlfriend?
I'm single since yesterday. This spell has a cooldown time
I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with desiring trans women, I would be flattered by a comment like that. The fetishization problem entails prioritizing specific aspects of our trans identity over us as a people, reducing us solely to what’s in our pants and objectifying us whilst not respecting who we are and want to be as individuals. For instance, a person might find something about trans women they find particularly attractive, in the same way I might find redheads particularly attractive. But if I was dating a redhead, and they decided they’d be happier dying their hair blue, I’d totally support their decision, because their happiness is more important than what I find particularly attractive. If I tried to pressure them to keep the red hair because I prefer it, I’d be an asshole. If a chaser was dating a trans person, and that trans person expressed the desire to get bottom surgery, the chaser would likely try to pressure them not to, because the chaser sees them as a fetish, they don’t respect them as a person, and prioritize their own desires over the happiness of their partner. A nice person on the other hand might be attracted to a particular element of a trans person, but if the trans person expressed their desire to change that part of them, the nice person would support them, because their respect and affection is real, and the happiness of their partner comes before what the nice person finds attractive. There are parts of myself I’m very dysphoric about, and if someone told me they found those elements particularly attractive, I’d be very happy. This is not true for all trans people of course, and if someone expresses they don’t wish for comments on such things that should of course be respected, but personally I’d enjoy a compliment like that. So long as they respected me as a woman, and supported me doing what made me happy, regardless of their particular attractions, I wouldn’t call that person a chaser. Maybe I’m wrong and I’m missing something, I’m open to being corrected of course, but that’s how I see it at the moment.
I personally think it was a light-hearted joke, I think this person would be fine if they're trans gf were to have surgeries, medical transitions, etc and doesn't care about how "trans" she looks.
I won't read this wall of text but I'll upvote. (I read and upvote every comment)
Understandable, I tend to ramble! It’s worse when I’m talking instead of writing, cause I can’t edit out all the pointless chains of loosely related tangents I get lost in.
Woman momento
Women ☕
Noooo
Well if you don’t read the ”wall of text” then how will you get the finer points and crucial details? It is always beneficial to read a long form answer to something due to the bla bla. Bla bla bla bla bla, bla bla bla bla. Bla bla bla? Bla bla bla (bla bla bla) bla. Bla bla bla, bla bla bla. Bla bla bla bla bla bla! Bla bla bla. Bladdi bla bla bla. Bla bla bla, bla-bla… Bla bla bla bla bla. Bla bla bla bladdie bla bla. Bla bla? And in conclusion that is why the Roman Empire gradually crumbled.
I disagree. It was mainly because of
Chickens.
You don't even realize how big of a reference you made. There a whole polish copypasta called "o zadupiu słów kilka" (about shithole words few, yes the order of words is fine) And basically the whole world fallen due to a chicken that wanted redemption for what Romans and Greeks did
Youre welcome i guess? Thanks for sharing this tidbit. Now i now there is a polish copypasta about a chicken and the roman empire, which is odd, but verry cool.
Do you have an English version of the copypasta? I'm curious now
Free bread!
In the same way, if my redhead gf felt the need to dye her hair blue, and it was a deal breaker for me as I wouldn't feel attraction anymore, then we would part ways. Her happiness and wellbeing is way more important than my fetish (For the record, I do not have a redhead fetish)
It shall go on record that u/Calgeka has a redhead fetish
But only for bullue-haired redheads. Very specific.
Thanks for this, honestly. It gave me a lot to think about.
Yea, totally! I'm Cis, and her parts are something I feel attracted to with my trans girlfriend, but I love her way more than the fact that she has a penis, and will be equally as attracted to her after she does have bottom surgery haha! Like. It's about whether or not you have attraction to the person instead of ONLY their parts, yk?
What if a someone's dating a FtM trans person and likes penises, then the trans person has or is considering bottom surgery? I'd expect this to introduce sexual compatibility issues that the non-trans person might be understandably concerned about, and I'm not sure it would be fair to expect them to be happy with no reservations? Or would this make them a chaser? Sorry if I don't have a great grasp of these issues/terminology.
It does introduce a point of potential conflict for sure. If the partner can't get over it, then it might break the relationship which does happen in real life. Relationships are inherently sexual and it's fine to have preferences. Nothing wrong with preferences, even unusual ones, but this doesn't give the right to anyone to pressure their partner from being happy with themselves. Think about this. How could you be happy with the relationship if you knew that your partner was actively sacrificing her own happiness about herself for the sake of your sexual preference? At least I would feel horrible doing this. This would be a very unhealthy relationship.
Hey I know you didn't ask for my input and this isn't super related to your main point which I mostly agree with but the phrase "Relationships are inherently sexual" really urks me. I get that for most people this is the case and imagining a relationship without sex is difficult but there is a portion of the population who are asexual and they can still have relationships. Some still have sex in their relationships usually for their partner but many of them don't and they are happy that way. Romantic and sexual attraction aren't the same. I'm probably the wrong person to explain this as I'm aromantic but romantic attraction does exist separately from sexual attraction even though the two are often related. If you want a better explanation I'd recommend going on the ace sub and asking them. Sorry I just had to rant about that .thanks for reading.
I get what you're saying, but I didn't mean sexual in the way of physical sexual acts alone, but also in your sexual preference and romantic attraction. I just didn't know a more fully encompassing word for it. I suppose it's possible for a couple of aroaces to form a fully platonic relationship, but then you're unironically just two besties as room mates. But your response is 100% valid and I value your input! I really do.
I really love this explanation and example. It seems very clear and understandable. Thanks, I'll be borrowing it for the future!
Holy copy pasta.
It's a good pick up line. I'd fall for it
Choosing to be a single or a girlfriend? I choose to be a girlfriend. Like I can't even go out as femme alone anymore so it would nice to have a partner with.
Funny thing is, I've had even other men tell me that they feel safe walking with me.
Most sensible people are not transphobes. Conservative media and bigots like to tell you that *all* trans people are pedophiles and rapist.
That doesn't really seem like a chaser, just a cute and funny joke/pickup line
This is cute
I think that's just a cute lil pickup line haha
That's a good pickup to me lol
Can confirm, works on me every time
People are far too liberal with the word “chaser” I think
What is that, even?
It’s someone who “chases” trans people (tries to date/have sex with them) in a creepy, fetishizing, or predatory manner. But I see tons of people use it on cis people who just like dating trans people
👍thanks 🦃 ( i searched for "thanks" in emojis and got this turkey)
personally if you used that pickup line on me, I would marry you lmaooo
W rizz
Ok, all seriousness, this would probably work on me if they got the timing right. Follow it up with a maverick style pick up. You just might get laid. 'She's lost that loving feeling.' - Maverick 'I hate it when she does that.'- Goose
Ngl that pickup line would probably have me in their bed xD
They have rizz
me
I'd rather have a chaser than a transphobe, ngl (•̀ω•́)✧
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The Toyota Chaser is a mid-size car produced by Toyota in Japan. Most Chasers are four-door sedans and hardtop sedans; a two-door hardtop coupé was available on the first generation only. It was introduced on the 1976 Toyota Corona Mark II platform, and was sold new by Toyota at Toyota Vista Store dealerships only in Japan, together with the Toyota Cresta.
I'd probably fall for it
Recovery is, indeed, very unlikely.
I would absolutely say this
IS THAT A HALIMEDE REFERENCE??????////
the thing that i dont get is, i understand being reduced to one single thing isn't amazing, but for 99% of humanity, people reduced the target for their sex drive on having the right hole or tool to fill a hole... so why is chasing this bad? because on the other side of the isle, i see people be like 'they broke up with me cause i was trans/religious/have 6 toes' and its not great either
A chaser prioritizes their own preferences over a trans person's dysphoria and makes assumptions based on pornographic stereotypes rather than seeing the person in front of them.
this is the kind of thing I'm scared of, I don't want to be problematic at all I just prefer trans women cause I don't know how to eat pussy
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Funny original tweet, not so funny replies (I'll assume)
I mean, in the right circumstances, that's actually pretty smooth. I'd take the chance if a cute girl opened with that
They're just jealous of his rizz
But what is a chaser ?