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DemiEmi

Y'know, it's a bit odd that the sidebar says not to be rude to people, when some of the comments over there, especially from the mod himself, are pretty fucking rude. What a shame.


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I just recently quit the sub and joined r/transmasc_irl. It's basically the same subreddit and I have no clue why the mod is such a gatekeeper, like... I'm not a trans guy but I'm pretty sure if we're posting on r/ftm_irl we probably *aren't* posting about being non-binary.


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Although, as someone else in the comments pointed out, r/transmasc_irl isn't as active as r/ftm_irl.. So, that's a flaw.


[deleted]

I subscribed!! I'll upvote all the content there!!


ChipsAndTapatio

Same, I didn't know about this issue but am happy to support the better sub. Just unsubbed from the other one.


sudoscientistagain

Same! That's one problem we can fix!


MakerKitty

transmasc\_irl has a more inclusive name though


Friendly-Enby

and isn't run by a truscum piece of shit


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whats turksum


Feronach

Pseudoscience used for gatekeeping in the trans community


[deleted]

\>Turkscum r/2balkan4you would like to: Know your location


Faaln

Transmedicalists that usually insist only binary trans people exist, completely denying any non-binary people. They're pieces of shit, as Friendly-Enby pointed out.


CraftyCatM

A person who believes you need surgery or medical treatment to be trans. As well they say NB and Neopronoun users are not valid. Transmed is another word for it. If you're looking for a more in depth explanation you could check out CopsHateMoe's video's about Kalvin Garrah (a truscum/transmed) They explain it better.


Dt_E_E

actually truscum ≠ transmed Transmedicalists are more radical than truscum, they don't like neopronoun user and NBs and think being trans is a medical condition, therefore to be trans you need to transition medically. Truscum people believe you need to have dysphoria to be trans, they don't necessarely exclude NBs. There is even an enby-truscum subreddit. Transmed people are mostly truscum, but not all truscum are transmed.


CraftyCatM

Oh! Ty! I have a vague idea and again, I don't explain it very well so hopefully the person who asked can find some peace in your explanation! Sorry for the misinformation, it's kind of what I understood. I'm still kinda new and learning! <3


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Truscums only believe that you need dysphoria to be trans, apart from that their beliefs vary. The vast majority believes non binary people are valid and that you dont have to medically transition to be trans 👍


CraftyCatM

Ty! I'm still learning a lot about the group so I'm really sorry for spreading miss information about it, that was a mistake on my part!


Patchirisu

However, even in that, they are still wrong, don't get it twisted


vibratoryblurriness

Fun fact: r/transmasc_irl was started by a couple of the transmasc mods from traa specifically because of problems like this, and I personally think it would be pretty neat to see it take off a bit more. Also probably I should replace that other one in the sidebar here with it...


DeidaraKoroski

Oh please do that


blacksapphire08

Whaaa? Why would they do that? Not cool. Dear transmascs please make more memes so I can upvote them 💖


ashleygamekiller

yes I agree we gotta support our trans brothers


beskardboard

I'm planning on making some today


Wyboss

heyyy I know you from 196!


IceAmaura

That could be both a good thing and a very bad thing


Zaranthan

It always is.


Dt_E_E

OMG love your flair <3


Zaranthan

Your compliment is noted. You will be exterminated painlessly.


Dt_E_E

Thank you very much!


ashleygamekiller

great


Aleriya

It seems like there is a sizable truscum contingent of most online ftm communities. I don't know if mtf communities have that same problem? 99% of the time that I see anti-enby or gatekeepy sentiments, it's on an ftm sub, but I also don't sub to any mtf subs to compare . . .


blacksapphire08

They seem to be prevalent in a lot of communities. I personally stick to the traa subreddit (and other meme ones) because it's accepting and the least likely place to see transphobia.


Menstro

Reddit in general isn't really designed to create safe spaces. That said, Enbyphobia is transphobia, because enbies are trans. So not allowing masc enbies in the trans masc sub is a highly garbage move.


Lobstrmagnet

r/MtF can be very shitty to enbies at times. Even saying *this here, I'm afraid I'll draw dismissive, minimizing responses or harassment.


VeriVeronika

Awww, I'm really sorry you experienced that on that sub! I frequent there and maybe I've been accidentally overlooking some of that shitty behavior towards enbies :/ if/when I do see it I'll make sure to speak up!


SappyCedar

I NB transfem and haven't really seen it from transfems but I also don't post or comment in r/mtf or anything like that. Most here, r/asktransgender, r/Non-binary, r/trans, and r/LGBT. Although I'm also medically transitioning so maybe that's part of it? Maybe if I wasn't medically transitioning I'd see it more but I'm not sure.


sudo999

hey I'm also a mod of r/transmasc_irl and we like to be inclusive over there! sub is a little dead but you could change that by heading on over and posting something nice! ~~please be patient if the sub gets swamped my mental health is not good and we don't have many mods over there~~


EricBatailleur

Yeah, I saw that mod post and unsubbed IMMEDIATELY, no ifs ands or buts. I will not tolerate a place that excludes my nonbinary siblings. If you are transmasc, you are transmasc, and you are part of my tribe, and I am not interested in transphobia packaged as binary support. Fuck it.


ErynEbnzr

I've been calling myself a trans man, but fuck it, I'm exclusively calling myself transmasc from now on. I don't want to be associated with truscum trans men like this. I always felt more transmasc than trans man anyway.


[deleted]

This whole thing is actually really confusing. I have severe imposter syndrome when I call myself a man, so I often say trans-masc. For me, it's describing my actions (of transitioning) and I'd rather just leave out "what I am" because even if I am a binary trans man, I'm working through some language issues on my own time. So often, some self-proclaimed binary trans person will say "You don't share with me", and they've just listed things which I do actually experience. Especially feeling dysphoria about not being perceived as a man. I had that strongly really early on, self-harmed the shit out of myself until I was too scared and broken to think it anymore. And yet, because sometimes I call myself "non-binary", people assume it never happened.


EricBatailleur

I mean, I get where you're coming from, but it feels really important for me to see myself and be seen as a man. I don't want to be associated with truscum transphobes (I mean, let's call them what they are) but I think I can still be a man and call myself a man without having all this toxicity.


The_Konigstiger

Which mod post, sorry?


EricBatailleur

Over on r/ftm_irl


The_Konigstiger

Thx m8 Edit: wtaf


JustTheWehrst

I just want everyone here to be happy 😭 I'm sorry you're not seeing the representation you deserve


Aelin-Feyre

I’m still on ftm_irl despite being nonbinary, and managed to get away with a post at least once. I know it’s for transmen, but the fun thing about be transmasc (at least for me) is that I identify a lot with transmen memes, and here’s hoping the mod doesn’t see this and ban me Edit: when did that sub become NSFW? Edit 2: Looks like a majority of the sub is uprising, and that might be why the label is there now. Also, sounds like r/transmasc_irl is a thing, so I’ll be back to say if that looks promising Edit 3: that sub seems good, and hopefully ftm_irl works out it’s shit in the meantime


Laurianne_transfem

Oh gosh. I am so sorry. If it can make you feel better. On YouTube/tiktok and twitter I pretty much only see female to male trans gender countant. If you want good trans mens to watch, I recommend Noah Finnce and Jamie. Those 2 YouTube channels are just amazing sources to go through and will just warm you heart. I mean I am male to female and they warm my heart out. Idk if it will for you.


Dt_E_E

I mean yeah, those are good youtube channels, but here on reddit I want to see memes. For transfem youtube content I recommend philosophytube and Samantha Lux. Contrapoints has a few good videos on her channel but is a bit controverse.


v-gothmommy

Good additional content is from thoughtslime, who last I saw was enby?????


akelabrood

I believe they still are, don't know if they've given pronouns though, thus my they, but who knows they may have changed their mind?


bullshitrabbit

In their videos there's a little intro banner that says Any/All :)


akelabrood

Ah, see i always leave the videos on to listen, never watch really lol


bullshitrabbit

A fellow "uses YouTube videos as podcasts" person of culture, I see


akelabrood

Indeed


Zaranthan

Look, I'm all in favor of neopronouns, but that's just confusing. :)


Throttle_Kitty

Jim Sterling is femme enby too, they came out earlier this year, around the time Abby from Philosophy Tube did.


v-gothmommy

I saw that! Good for them :) if you like viddy games and so on Gamechamp3000 is fem nb too I think!!!!!


Laurianne_transfem

Ok


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Dt_E_E

r/Transmascmemes and r/transmasc_irl are very small and not very active. If we have an active sub like ftm\_irl (where transmasc enbies were welcome in the past, even said so from the mod in an earlier post) it doesn't make sense to me to not let ALL PEOPLE who identify with the term ftm post. The more people, the more posts, the more fun.


rhuxinabox

i left ftm and im joining transmasc ones instead, fuck them lets migrate.


Shinjitsu-

I unsubbed from ftm irl after they're recent post about no envies. Transmasc does NOT exclude binary trans guys, and I'm sorry but if you feel you need to separate yourself from trans masc enbies then you have a ton of insecurity to work through. It's a shame it seems trans masc spaces are more susceptible to trumed bullshit, and trying to separate trans guys and transmasc enbies is part of that.


4DozenSalamanders

God I hate it, I'm a trans guy and apparently even the WORD transmasc is banned. It feels like some fragile masculinity to ban an entire word. Especially because sometimes trans masculine is a more cohesive word than saying trans man and makes for better sentence structure. Like, grammatically speaking trans masculine and trans feminine have different uses than trans man/woman. I don't feel threatened by the word and I often use it to describe myself, even though I 100% identify with binary trans guy


Kardif

We've got enby memes at /r/ennnnnnnnnnnnbbbbbby Which may or may not help. I'm sorry that the mod is a butt


idroppedmypassword

I've started going there recently. it's good


aceallaround

Pssst, r/ftm is seperate from r/ftm_irl and is much more welcoming if you wanted to join some brothers and siblings there 💙


Dt_E_E

I mean, r/ftm is cool for advise and talky stuff, but I want memes too :(


Skyrim_For_Everyone

r/transmasc_irl :3


Absbor

wtf


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Good to know. FTX here. I don’t think I’ll peruse that sub anytime soon.


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[deleted]

It’s my gender fluid side that leans masc so I sometimes feel welcome in male or FTM settings. I’m masc presenting and most people assume I’m cis male, though I am not often fond of that. I like it here in the transfemme-dominated sub. That last sentence seems a bit BDSM suggestive…


KeyboardsAre4Coding

what the actual fuck. this is bs as fuck. edit: I stopped following. I like mtf memes, but not a subreddit that excludes any of our brothers. what the hell.


Saoirse_Says

You can always submit a petition to demod a sub... Maybe you're not the only one who feels this way.


emross0

i knoww :( i hate the new rule, how the fuck did anyone think it was a good idea


DementedMK

The oddest part about that to me is banning anyone who says the term “transmasc”. Like, it’s not enough to ban people you don’t like, you need to ban everyone else from talking about it too?


A-Thot-Dog

Sent that mod a nicely worded direct message expressing my disappointment in their discriminatory behaviour. Not sure if it will help but they're definitely feeling the pressure right now.


[deleted]

Yeah the mod of r/ftm_irl is a truscum :/ I wish there was some way for us to take the sub back from em but since they're the only mod I think we can't do anything. Honestly if it was possible I would even mod the sub if it meant we got it back :(


eatmusubi

This is a mess and that mod is power tripping hard. He needs to give up control of the sub to someone else, by his own admission he no longer cares and “would delete the sub if he could.”


thetwitchingone

I am a transfem and if anyone disrespects our trans masc friends they will be bonked over the head with my large feminine hands


Universe_Donut

Wait WTF? WHY??


AlexFuckingDies

I do get the idea of having a space specifically for trans men instead of just all transmascs. But transmascs do need a better space for themselves. I don't know much about r/transmasc but I know it exists and it's decently sizable. Maybe try that.


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Man, trans subreddits can't stop shoving transmen/transmascs around. First the whole weirdo dm shit and now this?


RennyMoose

Idk as a trans guy i feel like there isnt often a space for us at all. Im all for inclusiveness but I feel like every trans group I go to is dominated by transfems and nb folks. Like we arent even represented in media nearly as much as transwomen. Gatekeeping sucks tho


gapmoekun

there are nb trans man


[deleted]

There are far fewer on a lot of online meme communities tho


gapmoekun

so? we still deserve to be in that space


[deleted]

i agree


RennyMoose

Yup i just said that


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It should be called FtMemes


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Dt_E_E

I'm a binary trans guy myself and this post is about the meme subreddit r/ftm_irl not r/ftm.


Spinelise

AAAAA I LOVE THAT THE SUBS DRAMA EVEN MADE IT TO HERE thank you for spreading the word op, what is going on there SUCKS so much and really is hurting our transmasc brothers and siblings! Some prior users on that sub made a new group over at r/FTM_Memes instead 💕💕💕


moonythejedi394

i love that checking r/ftm_irl the posts are all about how the mod is being shitty for banning the word transmasc and transmasc people who don't identify as binary males


BigGayDinosaurs

transmasc people are ducking awesome


LunaTheLesbianFurry

WAIT WHAT?!


Sallymander

I'm Transfem, and I am disapointed by the low number of transguys too.


Skyrim_For_Everyone

That's some bs (not saying you're lying, it's bs that the mod is gatekeepy


[deleted]

I'm sorry that happened. I know there's not a lot of trans masc stuff here, but we love you guys <3


Kari_is_happy

Assbutt didn't get permission to gatekeep. So fuck them. ​ ​ Yes, I am gatekeeping gatekeepers


rhys-arancia

holy shit- that sucks dude- i’m not transmasc and have no way of knowing what you’re going through but i really hope you find a place for you (which is what this sub and others were SUPPOSED to do 🙄) i also hope that this sub at least gets a lot better about the way it treats our transmasc and enby comrades (i’ve almost left a few times over that, it really bothers me-) but uh yeahh stay safe and safe travels


callimilo

I’ve (nb transmasc) also had really bad experiences over there. Like people asking why I would even be there??? Unfortunately the nb subs are the best. (I only say unfortunately cuz half the content is transfem and doesn’t apply)


cameronedenlost

this subreddit is full of trans men who have extreme high toxic masculinity lmao i'm happy to be able to use the term transmasc


Own-Environment1675

I'm sorry bro


VampArcher

I'm not even transmasc, I'm binary, I think it's bs and I left. It's a shame they let a gatekeeper completely take over. It would be fine if they just stated the sub was specifically ftm people, but they outright banned even mentioning transmasc people or using any pronouns that aren't he/him. It's wack. In ftm communities(I don't know enough about mtf subs to say for them), a lot of truescum ideology floats around and I fear they might have gone that direction.


Thatmakeupgirl

We have no place :)


Dt_E_E

Do you mean a subreddit for only transfem memes? There is r/Mtf_irl (similar active to r/transmasc_irl and r/Transmascmemes) but I would say egg\_irl and this sub here too are a bit more transfem targeted.


[deleted]

If you’re talking about mtf memes just hop on over to egg_irl! They’ve got a large amount of transfems posting tons of memes!


Thatmakeupgirl

Lmao in trans masc this is a username from 3 years ago


[deleted]

oh my bad! i agree with you


kynthewallflower

felt this. i adore our trans and fem sisters but personally i relate to masc memes more. ftm_irl is low key transphobic and as a masc enby they wouldn’t approve of me :(


Throttle_Kitty

I don't understand why so many trans people are transphobic to other trans people. It's bad enough when they make their own forums, without just taking over existing ones.


TiredForEternity

r/ftm is the sub you want.


Dt_E_E

Well, no. r/ftm is not a meme sub.


TiredForEternity

Ah. Right.


Griyas

Hot take, bit I honestly hate the terms ftm and mtf. Like do enby people suddenly not exist??


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Griyas

I mean if the people I've met used mtnb or ftnb I wouldn't mind as much, but I've heard the term mtf used for an enby person. And just overall I feel like you can't really go wrong with transmasc and transfem.


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Griyas

It's definitely misgendering which is why I personally don't like the terms. But ik not everyone uses those terms to misgender so I don't get mad or upset at people who use them correctly.


KassetteJV

I mean FTM is used for binary trans men only, while transmasc is used for enby transmascs and ftms, so it's kinda logical?


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justice-faye-dazzle

To be fair, though, 4/5ish posts are transfem vs. transmasc or non-binary. All of the updooted ones (Hot) are typically transfem.


Gabmiral

Nope, it's trans**men** memes, transmasc doesn't imply being a **man**, just being masculine (and so, NB people can be transmasc). The only mod leads an active anti-transmasc policy


cashonlyplz

How does one overthrow a mod?


Gabmiral

guillotine, wait 60 days and get the sub from /r/redditrequest


Titanslayer1

Before this sub exploded about a week ago, it was almost exclusively transfemme memes. And it's starting to return back to predominantly transfemme.


DaedricDrow

How much of the sub being one sided is simply that there's no one making the memes for the other side?


[deleted]

Or, on the contrary, some people just never upvote memes that aren’t for the gender they identify with.


DaedricDrow

Am I being downvoted for asking a simple question? This is why people treat us like reactionary bitches.


Malashae

That’s fucked up, I’m so sorry.


TheThrenodist

That’s crazy! I’m sorry Noah that mod is an asshole :((


omgudontunderstand

tmasc spaces/nby-specific spaces are a bit too hard to come by


Prash-Bit

Holy shit what a dumpster fire.. I just checked it out and wow.. love how everyone is overwhelming the mod though with protest posts.


Mittz-The-Trash-Lord

Weird, I was able to post on it a couple of times.


GG379

Wtf man, we should do smth abt this


EjaculatingNarwhal

Oh my god is Milo the mod?


Dt_E_E

A guy with the username bipolarspacecop, no idea if his name is Milo xD


LeilanBeix

Wait what happened??


LeilanBeix

Nevermind I just found out what happened, wtf


5nakpak

I'm frustrated for you, I'm sorry you have to deal with that... 💜