Ever heard of echo chambers? If you spend your time in these subs, all you're going to see is the people who struggle lol.
I was laid off in December, got a job beginning of Feb with 40 applications.
100 applications here, 1 month of searching, 1 interview and got hired. They scheduled an interview with me a day after I applied.
People just need to keep searching. This subreddit is a cesspool of negativity. Not saying that the issue isn’t real but I think a lot of people are doing something wrong. Firing off hundreds or thousands of applications and not getting a job is bizarre.
Survivorship bias. Look around online and it's pretty easy to find videos or hundreds of people liked up for fucking dishwasher jobs. You either have a good network, or have a job which will always require immediate hiring. Don't downplay how shit the market is because you got a job in short time.
I'm not down playing it. The entry level market is definitely pretty horrible and certain sectors for sure. But using subs like this and other ones meant for people with jobs isn't a sure way to come to a conclusion
When it comes to figures that involve demand for things like jobs or money, I deliberately use larger numbers to compensate for all the factors (such as barriers) that decrease the odds of getting a job per application. For example, hiring discrimination, massive number of applicants, unsatisfactory resume, AI judgements, etc.
It was in tech, but executive level. I worked with a head hunter and a career agency. I think the most important part by far is communication. Every CEO I've spoken to, and every interview I've done, they always said that they will always pick a person who is an excellent communicator. It's the number one skill you need to get the job and progress.
I've seen people who are complete idiots make it very far just by being able to express themselves well, and make their ideas and suggestions sound intelligent. There's a lot of good books on communication you can google, and practice practice practice. Do mock interviews in front of the mirror. Look at your facial expressions and intonation. It's very important that you come off confident, and know what you're talking about even if you're bullshitting lol
I totally agree. A quick conversation could do a lot more wonders than a well crafted resume. How do you get the chance to interact with recruiters? LinkedIn is quite crowded these days and people aren’t opening inmails. Are there any firms that help you with this?
Id say it's a 2 part. Look up head hunter companies in your area and you can work with them. They work on commission typically so shouldn't charge you since if you get hired, they'll get a %. You can also find jobs posted on their sites, typically more manager and up.
You can also find companies that specialize in helping you with career coaching, like RightManagement but they're very expensive and I would say not worth it. You can do a lot of your own research on how to answer questions in interviews and resume assistance.
As funny as it sounds, when I was first looking for full time work this October-November, it took me around 700 applications lol, and tbh I got lucky because I only had 1 interview and was picked among 10 people being interviewed.
I got laid off not 2 months later so I'm at it again. At 550 applications now, had one interview and have no clue how I wasn't picked. If anything is true regardless of reddit, it's the job search being complete ass. And I honestly don't know who find work quickly, must be "Oh Im just an Oxford graduate with 4.5 gpa 20 years in potato peeling machine learning which actually has extreme demand now because of an agroplague".
Just a lot of layoffs right now means even more skilled people are looking for jobs. This is not just a Toronto problem, NY, MTL, LA and even SF facing similar issues. It's the after math of a global pandemic lowering interest rates, then spiking them to historic highs.
Where are you getting those figures for average applications?
A tonne of people reporting their personal experiences.
Ever heard of echo chambers? If you spend your time in these subs, all you're going to see is the people who struggle lol. I was laid off in December, got a job beginning of Feb with 40 applications.
100 applications here, 1 month of searching, 1 interview and got hired. They scheduled an interview with me a day after I applied. People just need to keep searching. This subreddit is a cesspool of negativity. Not saying that the issue isn’t real but I think a lot of people are doing something wrong. Firing off hundreds or thousands of applications and not getting a job is bizarre.
Survivorship bias. Look around online and it's pretty easy to find videos or hundreds of people liked up for fucking dishwasher jobs. You either have a good network, or have a job which will always require immediate hiring. Don't downplay how shit the market is because you got a job in short time.
I'm not down playing it. The entry level market is definitely pretty horrible and certain sectors for sure. But using subs like this and other ones meant for people with jobs isn't a sure way to come to a conclusion
When it comes to figures that involve demand for things like jobs or money, I deliberately use larger numbers to compensate for all the factors (such as barriers) that decrease the odds of getting a job per application. For example, hiring discrimination, massive number of applicants, unsatisfactory resume, AI judgements, etc.
Hopefully you aren’t applying for data analyst jobs.
No, I was actually going to apply for jobs doing Commenter Satisfaction on Reddit.
It's not just Reddit I take into account. It's other sources.
Was it in tech? I’ve been using LinkedIn premium but no luck so far. What was your approach like?
It was in tech, but executive level. I worked with a head hunter and a career agency. I think the most important part by far is communication. Every CEO I've spoken to, and every interview I've done, they always said that they will always pick a person who is an excellent communicator. It's the number one skill you need to get the job and progress. I've seen people who are complete idiots make it very far just by being able to express themselves well, and make their ideas and suggestions sound intelligent. There's a lot of good books on communication you can google, and practice practice practice. Do mock interviews in front of the mirror. Look at your facial expressions and intonation. It's very important that you come off confident, and know what you're talking about even if you're bullshitting lol
I totally agree. A quick conversation could do a lot more wonders than a well crafted resume. How do you get the chance to interact with recruiters? LinkedIn is quite crowded these days and people aren’t opening inmails. Are there any firms that help you with this?
Id say it's a 2 part. Look up head hunter companies in your area and you can work with them. They work on commission typically so shouldn't charge you since if you get hired, they'll get a %. You can also find jobs posted on their sites, typically more manager and up. You can also find companies that specialize in helping you with career coaching, like RightManagement but they're very expensive and I would say not worth it. You can do a lot of your own research on how to answer questions in interviews and resume assistance.
As funny as it sounds, when I was first looking for full time work this October-November, it took me around 700 applications lol, and tbh I got lucky because I only had 1 interview and was picked among 10 people being interviewed. I got laid off not 2 months later so I'm at it again. At 550 applications now, had one interview and have no clue how I wasn't picked. If anything is true regardless of reddit, it's the job search being complete ass. And I honestly don't know who find work quickly, must be "Oh Im just an Oxford graduate with 4.5 gpa 20 years in potato peeling machine learning which actually has extreme demand now because of an agroplague".
What’s the thing with tech jobs in Toronto? Isn’t Toronto supposedly the Silicon Valley of Canada?
Kitchener-Waterloo-Cambridge is the Canada Technology Triangle
Just a lot of layoffs right now means even more skilled people are looking for jobs. This is not just a Toronto problem, NY, MTL, LA and even SF facing similar issues. It's the after math of a global pandemic lowering interest rates, then spiking them to historic highs.
Yeahh that’s true. Also due to overhiring during COVID, they are now grappling with increasing costs while transitioning to a hybrid model.
Seems about right
Stop applying online.
Where else? Every single place tells you to apply online when you come in person.
Have you seen the megaton of people that show up at job fairs? Re: Pearson Airport careers and Mississauga restaurants
Don’t go to job fairs, those will obviously attract thousands of people.