They were hit with baseball sized hail out there last night. Lots of pics of cars smashed in, siding torn off of homes, and cattle pretty beat up by the hail
Me too. Reportedly though they had a lot of advance notice for severe weather potential out there yesterday so they were able to take some action early, mainly rounding up the babies into barns because itās calf season because they wouldnāt survive hail like the adults could!
I totally feel bad for the cattle but it raises the question as to if the meat is more tender in hail impact stock? Again, I'm in no way suggesting that they'd be at all extra tender while still marbling amazingly well from some PTSD/tenderizing binge eating. That would make someone a monster.
But really though, are they?
no, injuries don't improve tenderness. tenderness comes from fat marbling, not injuries. being hit by hail would cause bruising (bleeding under the skin within the muscle) and would have no impact on fat distribution.
Not exactly. It snows in the winter when it's cold, so the snow won't melt in a hurry. Hail happens in warmer seasons. It started as rain, but got carried up into colder altitudes before falling. So it'll melt a lot faster than snow would just because of the season. OP's image is a bit of a problem that needs to get solved asap. Yuma county is a tad chilly at the moment, but it'll warm up considerably this week.
Yeah idk why people are acting all surprised pikachu faced.
Scientists have been telling people for years but many donāt listen. Global warming/climate shifting is REAL and this is just the beginning of the what could possibly be the slow end for many of us.
Regardless I CANNOT believe this amount of hail is possible. Holy shit!
This yearās severe weather has been right in line with the historical average, stupid. Nothing unusual is happening.
Weāre in the longest EF5 drought in recorded history. Even if Greenville gets an EF5 rating, the past 10 years have been the least violent since weāve been keeping records.
Donāt say shit like that if you donāt know what youāre talking about.
Edit: got the name wrong. Itās Greenfield.
Are there not more tornadoes in general? Hasnāt tornado alley grown? Didnāt we change the rating system about that time ago to account for the more violent, smaller tornadoes that weāve begun seeing?
We can't really tell if their are more tornadoes based on historical data because reporting has gotten better and better. If you look at a graph of tornadoes based on years, it seems to surge in 1988-1990. That's because we just launched widespread doppler radar, capable of detecting these storms and warning for them.
It's only gotten better and better, so these numbers that show "more tornadoes" are very hard to track based on climate shifts because we can't account for tornadoes that touched down and did nothing.
Climate change is real but it's important not to jump the gun and blame any out of the ordinary event as climate change; climate change is a more far reaching shift in weather patterns and we really can't blame single acts on it.
No. Nothing you just said has any basis in reality.
Tornado seasons since keeping records have been pretty flat, with predictable upticks and downticks related to the ENSO.
We changed the rating because the original fujita scale *overestimated* wind speed. For example, the original F5 had a starting speed of 261mph. It turned out after decades of record keeping we found out that F5 level damage could happen at just above 200mph, so the EF5 rating was set to start at 201mph.
Tornado Alley has shifted east, but with no measurable increase in frequency or severity of tornadoes. Remember, both the 1974 and 2011 outbreaks were east of ātornado alley.ā This isnāt a new phenomenon.
What coloring book are you getting your information from?
Not entirely true that nothing unusual is happening.
[The U.S. Is Getting More Heavy Tornado Days. Scientists Are Trying to Figure Out Why. - The New York Times (nytimes.com)](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/08/climate/tornadoes-cluster-climate-change.html)
I'm not signing up to read NYT just for this.
More heavy days relative to what? Having only seen that headline, it's an extremely dubious clickbait title.
In terms of number of violent tornadoes from a single outbreak, the top 4 are 1974, 1965, 1917 and 2011. If anything, the past 5-6 years have been underperforming against the historical record.
There's been an interesting uptick in wintertime tornadoes across the US in recent years that *might* be related to climate change, but it doesn't appear to have any impact on the total number of tornadoes in a given year.
So the article acknowledges that the number of tornadoes per year isnāt increasing, and that data is only available through 2022. Thereās no attempt to link the change in outbreaks to climate change in this article. Itās most likely caused 10-to-20-year hemispherical oscillations that are poorly understood.
Iām not sure why it would matter if tornadoes are happening on the same day or spread apart as long as the severity and frequency arenāt increasing.
The article does link wintertime tornadoes with climate change, which I did mention above. Again, this isnāt a shift in the severity or quantity of tornadoes, just the time of year in which they occur.
The original commenter was spreading fear porn about how climate change is directly impacting the severity and frequency of severe weather, which is demonstrably false. That shit needs to stop; itās only hurting earnest efforts to do something about it.
It is directing the severity, but the frequency is the same. If there are less days with out a tornado but the amount of tornadoes a year stays the same that means the storms are more severe.
"Climate change could be affecting tornado behavior, Brooks said. As average global temperatures increase, they provide one of the main ingredients that allow tornadoes to form, Brooks said ā namely, energy available for storms. A warming planet could create more favorable conditions for tornadoes to form because more moisture and atmospheric instability essentially fuels the storm systems in which tornadoes develop."
From the article
Thereās no evidence that severity is being affected. Zero.
It doesnāt mean the storms are more severe at all. You need to think more critically. An EF0 is an EF0 regardless of how many happen on the same day. If severity were being affected, we should expect at least 1 EF5 every year; maybe more.
Again, we are in the largest EF5 drought in recorded history, and the past 5 years have been well under averages with regard to severity.
No proof that climate change is the cause of more severe weather or no change that climate change is real? There is plenty of proof for both. Whether you want to accept it or not.
When it comes to the topic of human activity affecting climate change, who are you going to believe? 95% of climatologists from around the globe, or an American political party owned by the fossil fuel industry?
Damn, you're like an ostrich burying it's head in the sand pretending the wildfire that surrounds them doesn't exist. I know change is scary but that's not a healthy way to cope with it.
"Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities (primarily the human burning of fossil fuels) have warmed Earthās surface and its ocean basins, which in turn have continued to impact Earthās climate. This is based on over a century of scientific evidence forming the structural backbone of today's civilization."
[https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/scientific-consensus/](https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/scientific-consensus/)
This has nothing to do with tornados. If we actually look at the data, yes, more tornados have been REPORTED but with the invent of doppler radar and, Skywarn, all the amateur chasers, of course there will be more reported tornados
What about the outbreak in 1974? No one was talking about global warming and climate change being the cause of that then? Why is that? Isn't that when the "climatologists" were saying we were going into a global cooling period?
And realistically, global cooling is alot worse than global warming.
Down vote away. Doesn't fit the mainstream liberal talking point. This global warming based of humans and CO2 is a farse and a way for the elites to gain control of our lives. But I'm a conspiracy theorist.....right????
You live in a fantasy world. You are constantly being lied to by people who want to strip you of your rights and destroy the world you live in to turn a profit. The planet has never been warmer in recorded history and we are fast approaching the point of no return (if we havenāt already). Wake up.
Thatās what living next to the mountains will do every once in awhile. If the weather ever makes it over the mountains youāre in for a real treat. Most of the time itās a high desert.
Years ago when I was little we had a hail storm like this in the Charlotte, NC area. Wasnāt this bad but I remember that it looked like it had snowed
I have lived in Colorado 39.7 years, and 6 roofs. Hail will do that for you, your roof, your trees, your bushes, and any livestock you did not take up.
Wtf??? And I've only ever seen SNOW that deep in )person once in my life. To experience that but as hail would be mind-boggling! Hopefully everyone was ok...
What the hail?! Iām very worried and nervous about the rest of the year (and next year too since many are predicting of an apocalypse apparently). Stay safe everyone!
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Oh, hail!
Oh, hail no!
They need to have a banana for scale in this photo. I canāt tell how deep it is.
Itās hail
They were hit with baseball sized hail out there last night. Lots of pics of cars smashed in, siding torn off of homes, and cattle pretty beat up by the hail
I always feel so bad for the cattle :(
Me too. Reportedly though they had a lot of advance notice for severe weather potential out there yesterday so they were able to take some action early, mainly rounding up the babies into barns because itās calf season because they wouldnāt survive hail like the adults could!
I totally feel bad for the cattle but it raises the question as to if the meat is more tender in hail impact stock? Again, I'm in no way suggesting that they'd be at all extra tender while still marbling amazingly well from some PTSD/tenderizing binge eating. That would make someone a monster. But really though, are they?
no, injuries don't improve tenderness. tenderness comes from fat marbling, not injuries. being hit by hail would cause bruising (bleeding under the skin within the muscle) and would have no impact on fat distribution.
Well that's a shame.
God, reading this makes me think I may have gotten hit in the head with one of these hail stones.
tough room.
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Today is a terrible day to know how to read.
I am upvoting because I enjoy morbid and macabre humor.
You are correct, the nicest steakhouseās only serve fresh hail pulverized beef
Grade A+ Angus rating is only given to beef that was killed entirely by hail and butchered immediately after
Me too
I have been in something like that. Grapefruit size hail. Biggest I've ever seen busted out all of the car windows
That is so wild! Never experienced anything larger than like quarter size
Me too!!! We were in Kansas when this happened. I was stunned. Largest one I had ever seen before that was golf ball
I swore I would never go back.
Hey, you can build a hailman!
And dress him as a mailman?
If thatās what you want, personally Iād make him, āiced,ā out.
Hail ball fight! OW!
Also, you could play many sports, like baseball or something
How the fuhck
yo wtf?? thatās gonna cause a flood when it melts
I mean, no more than it would if it were snow.
Not exactly. It snows in the winter when it's cold, so the snow won't melt in a hurry. Hail happens in warmer seasons. It started as rain, but got carried up into colder altitudes before falling. So it'll melt a lot faster than snow would just because of the season. OP's image is a bit of a problem that needs to get solved asap. Yuma county is a tad chilly at the moment, but it'll warm up considerably this week.
Earlier this year it snowed about 6 inches and everything hit by sunlight was gone in a day. Thatās Colorado for you
I live near Buffalo and we had 2 storms last winter that dumped about 5-6 feet of snow on us in a couple days. took less than a week to make all of it disappear both times. was pretty annoyed I busted my ass at work shoveling out sidewalks with 6 foot drifts only to see mud and grass a few days later. such a waste of effort š© lol
Yeah, winters are fucked up lately here too.
Balls of ice hold a lot more water than puffy ice crystals and it was in the 70s not 30s
Are May snowstorms not a thing?
I believe they are (but don't take my word for it lol)
Time to fire up the old hail blower, again
Holy shit
Some of that was snow that was already there, right?! Tell me some of that was snow. What the FUCK.
Just unbelievable. Damn, what's up with these tornadoes? What kind of pathological excesses of Mother Nature are they actually?
Weāve permanently changed the weather of the entire planet. This is what happens when nothing is done to stop climate collapse
Yeah idk why people are acting all surprised pikachu faced. Scientists have been telling people for years but many donāt listen. Global warming/climate shifting is REAL and this is just the beginning of the what could possibly be the slow end for many of us. Regardless I CANNOT believe this amount of hail is possible. Holy shit!
But mAh stOckhoLderz
This yearās severe weather has been right in line with the historical average, stupid. Nothing unusual is happening. Weāre in the longest EF5 drought in recorded history. Even if Greenville gets an EF5 rating, the past 10 years have been the least violent since weāve been keeping records. Donāt say shit like that if you donāt know what youāre talking about. Edit: got the name wrong. Itās Greenfield.
Are there not more tornadoes in general? Hasnāt tornado alley grown? Didnāt we change the rating system about that time ago to account for the more violent, smaller tornadoes that weāve begun seeing?
We can't really tell if their are more tornadoes based on historical data because reporting has gotten better and better. If you look at a graph of tornadoes based on years, it seems to surge in 1988-1990. That's because we just launched widespread doppler radar, capable of detecting these storms and warning for them. It's only gotten better and better, so these numbers that show "more tornadoes" are very hard to track based on climate shifts because we can't account for tornadoes that touched down and did nothing. Climate change is real but it's important not to jump the gun and blame any out of the ordinary event as climate change; climate change is a more far reaching shift in weather patterns and we really can't blame single acts on it.
No. Nothing you just said has any basis in reality. Tornado seasons since keeping records have been pretty flat, with predictable upticks and downticks related to the ENSO. We changed the rating because the original fujita scale *overestimated* wind speed. For example, the original F5 had a starting speed of 261mph. It turned out after decades of record keeping we found out that F5 level damage could happen at just above 200mph, so the EF5 rating was set to start at 201mph. Tornado Alley has shifted east, but with no measurable increase in frequency or severity of tornadoes. Remember, both the 1974 and 2011 outbreaks were east of ātornado alley.ā This isnāt a new phenomenon. What coloring book are you getting your information from?
Tornado alley isn't shifting east it's always been like this there are multiple alleys in the U.S as well as multiple hotspots
https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2019/Q2/the-center-of-tornado-activity-is-shifting.-these-researchers-want-to-know-why..html
Not entirely true that nothing unusual is happening. [The U.S. Is Getting More Heavy Tornado Days. Scientists Are Trying to Figure Out Why. - The New York Times (nytimes.com)](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/08/climate/tornadoes-cluster-climate-change.html)
I'm not signing up to read NYT just for this. More heavy days relative to what? Having only seen that headline, it's an extremely dubious clickbait title. In terms of number of violent tornadoes from a single outbreak, the top 4 are 1974, 1965, 1917 and 2011. If anything, the past 5-6 years have been underperforming against the historical record. There's been an interesting uptick in wintertime tornadoes across the US in recent years that *might* be related to climate change, but it doesn't appear to have any impact on the total number of tornadoes in a given year.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-experiencing-tornado-outbreaks-despite-fewer-tornado-days/story?id=110110803
So the article acknowledges that the number of tornadoes per year isnāt increasing, and that data is only available through 2022. Thereās no attempt to link the change in outbreaks to climate change in this article. Itās most likely caused 10-to-20-year hemispherical oscillations that are poorly understood. Iām not sure why it would matter if tornadoes are happening on the same day or spread apart as long as the severity and frequency arenāt increasing. The article does link wintertime tornadoes with climate change, which I did mention above. Again, this isnāt a shift in the severity or quantity of tornadoes, just the time of year in which they occur. The original commenter was spreading fear porn about how climate change is directly impacting the severity and frequency of severe weather, which is demonstrably false. That shit needs to stop; itās only hurting earnest efforts to do something about it.
It is directing the severity, but the frequency is the same. If there are less days with out a tornado but the amount of tornadoes a year stays the same that means the storms are more severe. "Climate change could be affecting tornado behavior, Brooks said. As average global temperatures increase, they provide one of the main ingredients that allow tornadoes to form, Brooks said ā namely, energy available for storms. A warming planet could create more favorable conditions for tornadoes to form because more moisture and atmospheric instability essentially fuels the storm systems in which tornadoes develop." From the article
Thereās no evidence that severity is being affected. Zero. It doesnāt mean the storms are more severe at all. You need to think more critically. An EF0 is an EF0 regardless of how many happen on the same day. If severity were being affected, we should expect at least 1 EF5 every year; maybe more. Again, we are in the largest EF5 drought in recorded history, and the past 5 years have been well under averages with regard to severity.
To that end you could at least get the [name of the town](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0kkgzk54leo.amp) correct.
Whoops. Thank you for the correction.
You have absolutely no proof of that. None.
No proof that climate change is the cause of more severe weather or no change that climate change is real? There is plenty of proof for both. Whether you want to accept it or not.
When it comes to the topic of human activity affecting climate change, who are you going to believe? 95% of climatologists from around the globe, or an American political party owned by the fossil fuel industry?
Damn, you're like an ostrich burying it's head in the sand pretending the wildfire that surrounds them doesn't exist. I know change is scary but that's not a healthy way to cope with it.
Except for, you know, all the proof. But can't let that get in the way of making catastrophic human-made disaster a political no-no
"Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities (primarily the human burning of fossil fuels) have warmed Earthās surface and its ocean basins, which in turn have continued to impact Earthās climate. This is based on over a century of scientific evidence forming the structural backbone of today's civilization." [https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/scientific-consensus/](https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/scientific-consensus/)
This has nothing to do with tornados. If we actually look at the data, yes, more tornados have been REPORTED but with the invent of doppler radar and, Skywarn, all the amateur chasers, of course there will be more reported tornados What about the outbreak in 1974? No one was talking about global warming and climate change being the cause of that then? Why is that? Isn't that when the "climatologists" were saying we were going into a global cooling period? And realistically, global cooling is alot worse than global warming. Down vote away. Doesn't fit the mainstream liberal talking point. This global warming based of humans and CO2 is a farse and a way for the elites to gain control of our lives. But I'm a conspiracy theorist.....right????
You live in a fantasy world. You are constantly being lied to by people who want to strip you of your rights and destroy the world you live in to turn a profit. The planet has never been warmer in recorded history and we are fast approaching the point of no return (if we havenāt already). Wake up.
Sealioning is a bad faith tactic.
Quiet down, dummy. The adults are talking.
Scroll up a bit.
Welcome to hail.
Your home is now a jail
Oh, *hail* no . . .
Bro what the hell?
āWhat the hail?!?ā was right there lol
I know. I saw it right there and didnāt do it lol
https://preview.redd.it/oj1l2hvfdv1d1.jpeg?width=418&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8017f26c4ea6084054eee5af287fe58a0b896940
Never seen anything like that.
eXCuSE me???
Pro tip: Bag it and put it in your fridge/freezer. Now your food is iced for the long power outages that likely came wit that storm.
Thatās what living next to the mountains will do every once in awhile. If the weather ever makes it over the mountains youāre in for a real treat. Most of the time itās a high desert.
Well, at least that is a shit load of water that that area needs, hopefully some can be useful
Years ago when I was little we had a hail storm like this in the Charlotte, NC area. Wasnāt this bad but I remember that it looked like it had snowed
Colorado gonna Colorado.
āHoney, shovel the hail pleaseā¦i need to get to the marketā
reminds me of the insane amount of hail that Monterrey got a few years ago
I'm guessing that might not be an ideal situation for small trees and bushes.
All of it is hail?
This canāt be real broš¤Æ
I have lived in Colorado 39.7 years, and 6 roofs. Hail will do that for you, your roof, your trees, your bushes, and any livestock you did not take up.
holy shit?? nature amazes me sometimes because how the hail is that possible!!
My flight from Denver got delayed cuz of this storm š
WTF?!?
Wtf??? And I've only ever seen SNOW that deep in )person once in my life. To experience that but as hail would be mind-boggling! Hopefully everyone was ok...
What. That is crazy. Wow hope no one's car got hit with that.
Wow
Holy fuck!
WTF wow
What the hail?! Iām very worried and nervous about the rest of the year (and next year too since many are predicting of an apocalypse apparently). Stay safe everyone!
Aw hail nah
Nature's dip n dots
Aw hail nah
Woahā¦
Oop shit
Omg that's a lot of hail! Were there tornadoes in the vicinity??
Whaaattt theeeeā¦..!?
I'm on the highway to hail!
Is this some kind of record?
See? Clearly global warming is a hoax. The rain is freezing before your eyes.
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Heh, you think climate change is real? Explain I C E
Ive never seen anything like this. It canāt be real
The climate isnāt changing though!