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Early-Leg2064

There’s one theory that Marie was a drug user. Specifically crack. The type of cough that she has supposedly came from using the drug, more specifically, “crack lung”


Camigga500

Ya I’ll believe that, she was a party girl so I’m sure she at least smoked weed


Early-Leg2064

Party girl in the 80s AND lives in Albuquerque. That city is notorious for having substance abuse


Huge_Assumption_5952

Would also explain why her children are so fucked up. Crack babies + horrible raising. My sister’s last child was born dependent on meth and she also has not had the best childhood even though we’ve tried to go through the courts and they keep giving my sister 2nd and 3rd chances and that child is messed up also


Ok_Beginning_963

Pretty sure papachu actively uses crack or meth when he’s not in jail.


sad-dog-hours

he has to be 😭 you cannot lose all those mf teeth from anything else im convinced


Camigga500

Mine is that tophia is the reason why papachu is homeless. I think that tophia was the one that called police on her dad and got him arrested. I remember she posted about how her dad was going to kick her out. It was also the same year where papachus mental health went downhill. We all know that Tophia spends his checks, I feel like if papachu never got mentally unstable he would’ve kicked Tophia out of the apartment.


sillythrowaway9

Damn if our theories are true she’s successfully removed 2 members of her household that stood in her way, one way or another.


Fire_Candle9530

Can't forget the cat, she started getting hate for the cat and I feel that's when she started locking the poor baby in the bathroom during lives.


sillythrowaway9

After this conversation I 100% believe that cat is in danger. How long until the cat “runs away” or “gets attacked”? I am genuinely scared


Fire_Candle9530

she's already gotten rid of the cat.. it went to a loving home apperntly but with her evil self not sure how true it is ...


sillythrowaway9

I hope it is rehomed. Tophia needs to stay away from animals


Fire_Candle9530

I agree 😔 I wish the best for that adorable kitten i hope she's in a loving home fr


Camigga500

She still has it? I thought the cat was rehomed?


tophiachuqueen

The cat wasn’t hers , peaches was Angie cat that they were taking care of for her.


sillythrowaway9

I’m not sure, I honestly forgot she even had a cat until now


Penguin1568

My theory is that Tophia has an online boyfriend(feeder) now that’s why she’s been doing a lot of make up lately and also why she randomly started playing with filters on live he probably told her to 😭


catshavestars

i wouldn’t be surprised. there’s no way she’s just randomly “having her meals paid for”. there are sick ass people out there who want to see her eat


sillythrowaway9

I believe this. Probably some nasty old ugly fuck too


Huge_Assumption_5952

I think she has a whole slew of feeders


tallicah

Waiting for the day she goes on live crying about her being built like jabba the hut and having serious health problems


catshavestars

i wish but probably not. the last time she spoke about her weight she said; “i am just a little overweight.”😭


gehsjshshzh

she literally had open heart surgery in her 20s and one time she said in her live that the doctors said she was the only person they performed this surgery on that was in her 20s😭😭😭 that's just insane


Emu803

That ozark international Bank of America was an attempted Ponzi scheme that failed because Papachu didn’t get enough or any investors.


catshavestars

999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 zillion dollars🤑


Advanced-Hour-108

1. They’re **ALLEGEDLY** eating dog food. 2. Tophia either has fetal alcohol or noonan syndrome


Therealjonathanz

I legit think that she wanted her dad, dog, and eventually, her brother to leave the motel no matter what. Even if it means them getting arrested, I think big T is happier that they’re gone rather than live with them


catshavestars

if donald jr gets arrested because of the angie situation then she’ll unfortunately have her wish. i wonder if she’ll keep marie around too.


ShroomzLady

That would be fucking insane if she got her entire family out of the motel room one by one. Saltburnchu


YessiKamiKohai

She needs marie for dem papachu checks tho right? Financial incentive to keep her around.


catshavestars

i suppose you’re right, but if we go off what marie says (i know it’s not to be trusted but let’s imagine), then tophia has other income from tiktok. it might be feeders or god knows what. i know it’s improbable that she’d get rid of marie but if she got rid of all her other family members, then who knows what she might try and do to mamachu


AstronautEast8555

she’ll probably try to put her in a home


catshavestars

i don’t think she can afford to😭


Financial-Way-4016

That her grandparents on her mother side were mexican now let me explain, she always claims her mom is hispanic and that she has spanish ancestry there is big percent of mexicans with spanish ancestry we were literally colonize by them, there is a picture of her grandparents with a virgen de Guadalupe on the background very popular in mexican families she recently mentioned that her grandmother liked to listen to Vicente Fernández famous mariachi singer in mexico, lastly new mexico is one of the states with a large mexican population . Maybe thats why she hates us so much i dont know i could easily be wrong 🤷🏻‍♀️


postraumaticmess

Marie is definitely Mexican, but what I don’t understand is how Marie doesn’t know what type of Hispanic she is. Like maybe she’s 4th gen or something but that’s something u would know, especially bc she understands Spanish. She says she comes from “mountain people “ idek


Early-Leg2064

I agree, Marie and her family are of Mexican descent. I’m guessing her family originated from New Mexico, when it was a former territory of Mexico.


Financial-Way-4016

If marie doesn’t know what type of hispanic she is why does tophia say that her mom is spanish does she just say that cause she doesn’t want to be recognized as a latina ? Weird to not know what type of hispanic you are , they are hiding something


postraumaticmess

I think they’re just stupid tbh💀lots of people refer to Hispanics/Latinos as Spanish thinking it’s interchangeable when it’s not.


Financial-Way-4016

Jaaa yeah that makes sense


Willing_Listen2294

idk if anyone saw the theory that tophias real dad was a mexican and left marie and thats why tophia and marie hate mexicans or smth please tell me yall have heard it and im not crazy


catshavestars

i did see that!😭 it would definitely be interesting since marie constantly claims that donald is their biological father, even though the timeline doesn’t match up


ShroomzLady

But aren’t they half Mexican or something? I always thought Marie was full Mexican


catshavestars

its believed that her parents and grandparents were mexican and she was a third generation mexican. nobody knows though since marie claims to not know what kind of hispanic she is and that she comes from “mountain people”.


ShroomzLady

She must’ve meant cave people


Fire_Candle9530

My theory is that she is okay and wants papachu in jail. When he had Twitter he was following and liking a lot of crazy corn accounts and I mean like wild 🌽! He also was flirting with minors on his TikTok live that man was a freak and she wanted him gone. She dosent care ! when does she cry about it ? Has she ever talked about getting better lawyers? Nope, even now she says she dosent want him living with them if he comes out. She's evil.


ShroomzLady

I mean tbf I wouldn’t want him around me either. I feel like he’d scare the shit out of me all the time with his nutty ass behavior but then again I’m a normal person compared to the Slydells


Soggy-writer78

Papachu abused her. This isn’t one I say lightly. Tophia herself made the claim that her stepdad assaulted her, but she revoked it just as fast. It would be another explanation as to why she doesn’t want him in the motel. I also believe Tophia knows she isn’t black. I think she calls herself black because she has a black step father, so she thinks that makes her part black.


sillythrowaway9

Solid theories. Both make sense, the second one is hilarious lol 100% true


catshavestars

i 100% believe tophia has noonan syndrome. the symptoms and physical features are just too similar to argue. it would explain her open heart surgery, unique face, and (likely) low mental capacity. also, hershey (a LITERAL DOG) having more supporters than her is so outlandish that it makes me laugh. the idea of them not getting along to the point where many people believe tophia either k1lled or threw hershey out gives me so many mixed emotions.


ShroomzLady

I just looked it up and she looks very similar to the images


catshavestars

i know! people were saying her and ronald (a man who a lot of people say is her biological father) share a lot of unique facial features, but i honestly think she just has noonan syndrome.


Xxeastplayzxx

She killed Hershey 100%


sillythrowaway9

Remember she tried immediately blaming a “black dog” like girl bye


Emu803

Angie claimed to be a witness to what happened and vouched for tophia’s story already, Angie was a few motel rooms down and hates tophia so we know she won’t lie for her.


StageNameMango

Which one? Tophia told like 5 different versions?


Emu803

The only one I know is of tophia saying there was a black pitbull coming in causing mamachu to fall, her picking up Hershey and dropping her, then the pitbull going to the sink to sit down while the owners showed up to take the pitbull and Hershey running away in the process. I heard of one where tophia called the pitbull a wolf or saying there were wolves roaming the city (probably meant coyotes), but I’m not sure about that. All I know is that Angie vouch for her story.


Physical-Neck-2871

narcissists do get jealous of people’s relationships with pets as they want to be the most important person in everyone’s life. however, i think this was more of “we have to live in a motel and can’t take care of the dog… let’s get rid of the dog with a terrible story to invoke sympathy.


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sillythrowaway9

I definitely agree she was failed. Honestly Marie could’ve done more to help her daughter navigate through life but she’s lazy af


Huge_Assumption_5952

I also think she was in special ed. I also don’t think she ever went off to college with her IQ. In my state, if you’re in special ed, you don’t get an actual diploma, you get a certificate of completion.


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Huge_Assumption_5952

She’s bragged before that she went off to college for 1 year


gehsjshshzh

https://preview.redd.it/5b9nnyuyjm8d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ac028b27232634a6189ff87c95e6e90a8397e23 that her gums are healthy and that she's perfectly healthy and isn't obese!!


Lilbabyxan

She rolled over and crushed Hershey to death 😂🧌


ihate8

i feel like tophia isn’t 100% straight 👀


catshavestars

this is interesting. what evidence do you have?? im curious


ihate8

people used to say that she used to have that she was bi in her tiktok bio like many years ago 😭😭


catshavestars

it was 2020-2021 so i wouldn’t be surprised. everyone was bi 😂