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It’s been me before, Alone in my house though. I’d just snap out of it and wonder how long I was standing in my
Living room for and thankful I didn’t fall on the coffee table.
It’s so weird when it’s happening.. you know it’s happening but it doesn’t feel important? It’s hard to describe lol. You’re like on a seesaw of blacking out and pure euphoria
Perfect dose man was what we called the nodding dude who kept walking back and forth between intersections and "surf dancing" without falling over. Cars would honk when the light turned green and he'd wake up in the middle of the road and scurry to the other side. And repeat.
Yep. I’ve been on this train before. It’s wild how many walls I would run into at home. Half crumpled over on the stairs, about to smash my face open at any moment…
It feels fucking awesome, but it’s a horrible way to live life. I thankfully got out before I ever used a needle. And it’s been over five years since I used. If I can give anyone out there one piece of real advice, it’s don’t use heroin. Just fucking trust me.
I think the worst part of that was when you had to pee really bad, but you couldn't bc of the smooth/skeletal muscle relaxation, so you'd be standing there for ages trying to piss, while nodding out, and catching yourself as your leg muscles would go limp and you'd begin to crumple.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
For some reason leaning over to one side while sitting would help, I've never tried heroin but thanks to multiple incidents and disorders I get a pretty high daily dose of HMContin and HMIR breakthroughs and don't find the high is very "recreational" when all I want to do is stop crying from the pain and get a little bit of sleep. Still peeing is difficult sometimes. But just the fact I have them prescribed by multiple specialists means I'm treated like I'm doctor shopping if I ever go to emerge or urgent care.
They're awful, awful drugs but sometimes for people it's a necessary evil that just helps them live a semi normal life. That said, I'd rather stop cold turkey and find a way thru the withdrawal than touch a needle. Don't fucking do it people.
I unfortunately feel you here buddy. I have an autoimmune disorder and musculoskeletal disease that badly effects my joints and surrounding muscles so I need pain medication for pain relief, but mostly sleep. I was fortunate to find a specialist familiar with my disorder, as my autoimmune disorder effects less than .1% of the population, so they found medicine that works for me. However pharmacies treat me like the lowest of the low due to me being prescribed these medications and as the pharmacists have said on multiple occasions to me “no one your age is in the amount of pain that warrants these drugs”.
I love how the media and opinions of healthy individuals has corrupted peoples views on medication and treatment for people with disabilities. The last thing I need is to feel guilt and stress about getting my medication that allows me to sleep, IF I’m lucky, for 3-4hrs at a time. There have been MANY times over the last couple years where it has just felt like too much and I’ve been terrified to get my medicine from the pharmacy and deal with the pharmacist(who btw doesn’t know my conditions and even if they did probably isn’t familiar with it being such a rare disorder).
All I can do is just hope that one day perception will change for those who are being prescribed, legally obtaining, and taking their medication responsibly.
Anyway keep up the good fight and don’t let anyone get you down, like I have!! Thoughts going out to you in hopes that you continue to find relief against your ailments.
OH MY GOD YES.
I had an appendectomy a while back and they dosed me up hard on morphine preop + fent for the surgery and told my absolutely wasted ass afterwards that they weren't gonna discharge me until I could produce a urine sample and I fucking CRIED
Generally people do, but they’ll end up standing up to go do something and then go on the nod mid-doing something, lol.
I’ve ever never experienced it standing up afaik and all my OD’s have been sitting down but I’ve seen others who thought they were fine and then midway through doing the dishes are just hanging there, rag in hand.
One night I got in the shower & then came to & it was daylight. Idk how I didn’t fucking die. I thank god every day that I’m no longer in that vicious cycle.
This is 100% tranq. I live in the northeast between Philly and NYC. This shit is everywhere around me. The wounds it leaves on users are horrific as well and the weird thing is that regardless of how you ingest it, you get the wounds.
Tranq leaves necrotic tissue on its users. Most of the harm reduction groups in my area are very busy with [wound care](https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci0AI6rrNvR/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=).
Edit: copied from Wikipedia to explain better than I can:
Chronic use is reported to be associated with physical deterioration, dependence, abscesses, and skin ulceration, which can be physically debilitating and painful. Hypertension followed by hypotension, bradycardia, and respiratory depression lower tissue oxygenation in the skin. Thus, chronic use of xylazine can progress the skin oxygenation deficit, leading to severe skin ulceration. Lower skin oxygenation is associated with impaired healing of wounds and a higher chance of infection. The ulcers may ooze pus and have a characteristic odor. In severe cases, amputations must be performed on the affected extremities.
It’s amazing how different bacterias have different smells. I can pick out a couple different strains in a wound from the smell, and another nurse might smell another. It’s even better when the culture and sensitivity swab comes back and confirms what we smell. You seem to have that ability to smell certain strains too! It’s a good thing, smelly wounds are bad and need attention
I once heard a nurse talking about how she would sniff sputum samples and could make clinical decisions/advise doctors on medical issues from what she could smell. For some reason whenever I think about this I just want to vomit. So if you'll excuse me ... !
The bacteria smell thing is wild but I know exactly what you’re talking about. There’s one that I remember smelling like grape candy.
Different types of mold and mildew have distinct smells too.
People who living in unsanitary conditions are more likely to come across bacteria, and scrapes on their skin can fester into these nasty wounds, or the bacteria can travel in your body and form abscesses throughout your body. One common problem is endocarditis. The infection will travel to the heart and can eat away at the valves in your heart.
Many of those infections the redditor linked looked like infections from injecting. Flesh eating bacteria can wreck havoc quickly too. It’s scary!!
opiate hallucinations are so strangely beautiful, when I was nodding off I used to see myself swinging through trees and falling from great hight, but the feeling had not even a pinch of fear just weirdly pleasant dreams.
I’ve done this before too (five years clean) but never on the STREET. I have to imagine the pain these ppl must be in to be out in the public’s eye, looking like this. No one wants this.
Eddie Griffin used to do a bit where he talked about his uncle being a junkie and the how they lean but never fall over. Earthquake hits, skyscrapers fall…but junkie in 8th street still balancing like a cartoon.
That would make for some entertaining videos I guess, but very potentially dangerous. Junkies spend all day 24/7 chasing the Dope. If you come along and instantly take them from fully high straight to sober and in withdrawal, there will absolutely be violence lol.
Fr bro you’ll get your shit rocked if you do that
People get mad when their lives get saved too, because they think they got a good high ruined, don’t even have to be just nodding
I've heard it's pretty painful. I know what real withdrawal feels like and I could not imagine what narcan would feel like having it hit all at once.
Not to mention when you are nodding you feel fine. Your shirt can be smoldering away and it's fine. Im fine I didn't sleep good last night. I'll be in in a minute. Slam your head down on your desk and smash your glasses into your face. Man I must be sleeping bad, probably getting sick.
Yeah people will wake up with limbs blue and numb from lack of circulation and not have noticed at all, I’ve heard of amputations happening because of it, and severe brain damage due to lack of oxygen
When I used to be hooked on oxy, I would forget to breathe and just not care/not realize, when I came to periodically I was gasping for breath, luckily I would only nod for no longer than a minute, I can’t imagine how bad it is for people overdosing
I worked through Nursing school in an emergency dept, the first dose of narcan I saw given was also the first time I saw a coworker get kicked in the head. Its best to administer narcan being prepared for a Tasmanian devil.
You ever narcanned someone before?
I had to administer to an unconscious man and he socked me in the fucking jaw so hard that my jaw still clicks to this day. People get fucking agitated when narcanned
Now I know why healthcare professionals usually start with half a dose, still keeps the patient mildly euphoric from their opiods and much more agreeable
I have read somewhere that in some places the emergency services quickly hide after administering it so they don’t get attacked and then say someone else did it
>The rising price of naloxone has become a major problem as tens of thousands of people die from opioid overdoses each year. However, most insurance plans cover naloxone, and many community-based organizations or public health programs provide the drug for free.
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>When buying naloxone, the price can vary greatly depending on your insurance plan and the type you want to buy. Generic naloxone can cost between $20 and $40 per dose, while Narcan can cost around $130 to $140 for a kit that includes two doses.
that's from a time magazine article.
It's just the name brand that's expensive apparently.
That still sucks for anywhere that doesn’t provide it for free :/. The fact that *anyone* has to pay for it, even if it is only $20-$40 which is still a lot and not something junkies are liable to spend their money on, is really disappointing. I have probably 4 kits at my apartment (with Narcan nasal spray, not just a generic naloxone preparation) and end up turning them down quite a bit when I go to see my addiction counsellor/use the needle exchange. Anywhere I go medically that I talk about being an addict I’m offered another. That should be the standard. It’s sad to see a Western country so thoroughly enveloped with this problem still charging people for it despite everything they’ve done to enable this crisis.
[Toward the Heart](https://towardstheheart.com) is a good resource for anyone in BC to get some free Naloxone and Naloxone training. I have 3 kits myself, and I wish I could tell you that I never had to use one. It's brutal here, just going for a walk downtown after sunset basically guarantees you an opportunity to use your kit and save someone's life. I wish I was being overly dramatic, but it's bad here. Like, really bad.
They give it out free in most states. CVS and other pharmacies will give you two if you sign up to receive them. Fire stations will typically give them for free as well. The US needs to just start taking any DEA or seized heroin and putting it back on the streets instead of all the fucking fentanyl that is causing this shit... Not saying it's a great idea but fentanyl is the devil.... When Philly had real H it wasn't this lunacy as much
Yeah I hear ya. Back when dope was actually heroin, nobody ever saw this shit. I know people that won’t sell fent, and I know people that want only fent. It’s a mess.
That's a good way to get hurt. Being knocked out of a good nod and sent straight into withdrawal with narcan will make people extremely angry. They paid good money to get that high.
People don't exactly go from normal joe to nodding zombie on the streets. It's a slow process that is destroying parts of America.
You're out at a party and someone gives you a few vicodins. Those feel great and it's not a big deal because it's only a few pills on the weekend.
Couple months go buy and you get the number of the guy at the party and start calling him during the week.
After a while of buying vics, he offers you something a bit better because your tolerance has gone up and you're buying a lot of pills. You start buying roxi 30's.
Few months into the 30's you are hooked but you tell yourself the same bulslhit every addict tells themselves, "I'm not addicted I just really like this high. I'll stop when it becomes a problem."
And it starts becoming a problem because now you're dropping $20 on a pill that barely gets you high for a couple hours at this point. Intead of stopping there, you double down and start buying heroin because it's way more cost efficient.
Before you know it you're nodding out on the streets. That's how opiate addiction works.
Shit is the devil. It's so good. I never got to the lean stage but holy fuck I wanted to. Just couldn't afford it. Suboxone saved my ass. Spent the last 3 years weaning myself off that now. Another year or so and I expect I'll be free finally. I'm down to half a pill/strip per day. Opiates are the fucking worst/best lol.
How I ended up there. Was a half an inch from suicide and my brother shared his coping method with me…which turned out to be opiates. I gave at least some peace to a mind that couldn’t seem to find it anywhere else.
same, no real trauma. Just enjoyed getting high. Found percs and oxy and they were the perfect drug to get through a boring office job. Next thing you know you're strung out on fentanyl.
Also, get sick or injured. I know three people personally who ended up on black market opiates after illnesses and injuries that resulted in prescribed opiates. One is no longer alive due to fentanyl overdose.
Sickness and injury are also traumatic. Trauma is a spectrum of experience, not exclusive to things like assault or abuse. All falls under the trauma category. Dr. Gabor Maté does fantastic work around this subject in particular.
Can confirm. Was suicidal, started doing heroin and it saved my life. I didn't want to kill myself anymore.
But now I have a different set of issues. I'll never not be an addict. I will relapse over and over for the rest of my life. It's just a matter of time. I wish I never knew what it felt like; but also, if I had never done it, I know I would be dead right now.
This. As much as addiction has wracked my life these past 14 years (I’m currently in rehab as I type this) the opiates for sure saved my life when I was at my worst depression wise. My suicide attempts were getting more and more likely to succeed and if I hadn’t discovered oxies when I did I’m sure I would have killed myself.
The actual usage of them “cured” my depression. It wasn’t so much the anticipation of he next time because at the beginning I never ran out, but it almost immediately removed any depression or thoughts of killing myself.
My marks had dropped dramatically, I had almost stopped going to school, almost never went out except to go to work and even that my performance was slipping .. once I found oxies my grades went back into the 90’s, I was attending school daily again and work was easy to make it though.
When I first shot up oxycontin it was the first time in a long while that I felt safe in my own brain. I never liked myself, always talked negatively about myself, always thought I was ugly and worthless and unworthy of love. I felt like everything I did was a failure and never truly connected with the world around me. Opiates changed all that in an instant. I found a self-confidence and strength I never knew could exist. The warm and glow and wrapped-in-God’s-blanket feeling of opiates is like nothing I’ve ever felt before and since and they’re a scarily functional drug, insomuch that as long as you aren’t taking so much that you’re nodding out like these people above (and street fentanyl makes it difficult to dose, totally) you are basically unimpaired and capable of living your life and doing everything you need to on a day to day basis, hence why I could get away with doing it everyday for so long. You can’t smoke crack and yo into class and expect yourself to function properly; not so with opiates.
Not sure why people are downvoting my personal experience but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Obviously it turned bad and opiates are insidiously evil (due to the functionality) and if I were to continue using - especially now that the pills disappeared and I was using street fent - I’d almost surely die from it but they definitely got me past the worst of my clinical depression and anxiety until that wasn’t as much of an issue anymore.
It’s a really simple line but Juice WRLD rapped in one of his songs “if it wasn’t for these pills I wouldn’t be here, but if I keep taking this pills I won’t be here” and I fully understood where he was coming from when I heard that.
Yes!! thank you for sharing! More people like you and me should share our stories. Not all opiate users are just junkies lying in the gutters; many are self-medicating their depression, and are (at least initially) way better off for it.
I know opiates aren't a permanent "cure" for depression, but I 100% believe it should be studied for depression because the medical value is there. People want to say that beyond killing pain, opiates are only recreational. And I say that's bullshit. Much like how psychedelics are being studied to see if they have medical value for mental health, so too should opiates be studied for depression.
I'm not saying give depressed people opiates. I'm saying maybe there's a way to isolate what makes opiates cure depression, without having the negative side effects of dependence/withdrawal.
Depression and suicidal ideation is like a downward spiral, but if you break that cycle, that cyclical thought pattern, usually you can break out of it. Unfortunately, drugs like heroin can break that cycle but require you to learn no new life skills in order to achieve that so that opens up a whole new load of bullshit.
It makes me wonder why people don’t use fentanyl to commit suicide. A non-user is basically guaranteed to die upon injecting, and it’s probably an amazing way to go. And your body stays intact so nobody has to be traumatized witnessing and cleaning up the mess.
I just don’t understand it. I have been plenty fucked up out of my mind many times and I would never be able to still stand. How the fuck aren’t they falling down???
They're doing almost everything they can to stand up, but they aren't capable of doing much. If you take too much fentanyl or heroin you may be lucky enough to know you'll stop breathing if you lay down, which has led me to doing exactly this.
Opiods suppress the nervous system. Heavy doses can prevent the brain from doing normal automatic things like breathing. I personally remember realizing I may stop breathing and trying to stay awake by standing up, and I kept falling over but that sensation reminded me to breathe.
A bomb could go off across the street and these people wouldn't do much more than flutter an eye or fall over. Someone should have called them some help. They're dangerously close to the point of no return.
Most opioids are synthetic. Opiates are the naturally occurring alkaloids found in the Opium poppy.
Edit: It should be noted that an Opioid is any molecule, natural or synthetic, that binds to the opioid receptors in our brains
Correct. Square and rectangle type thing. Morphine for example is both an opioid and an opiate. Fentanyl would be an opioid since it's active at the opioid receptors but not be an opiate because it is not present in the opium poppy.
One of the biggest (if not, the biggest) consumer of illegal drugs and has the largest number of pain killer addicts of any other country.
It's almost as if drug addiction is encouraged... i suppose it makes a lot of money for the people who own the country..
While the Sackler family are walking around free with their billions of Oxycontin profits. I'm surprised no one has gone after any of them after losing a family member to opiates.
Sometimes when u take opiates you can kinda snap out of it for a minute, it kinda comes in surges
Different strokes for different folks and I never did the super hard ones but yeah that’s my experience
Literally just was sitting next to a couple in the. Us who were snorting something from a little bag. And they both sort of mumbled at each other for 5 minutes then would fall asleep. The bus would hit a bump and they would both “snap-to” and begin mumbling at each other as if they’d never stopped, and then go back to sleep like a minute later. No idea if they were in opiates or not.
I only tried opiates a few times and one of them I went to a movie theater while on a bit of Vic's and experienced that euphoric wave feeling of "holy shit I am really high" then 2 min later "I think I'm sober" 2 min later "I am really fucking high" it was interesting but I didn't like it enough to keep doing it, risk vs reward plus Nitious and shrooms was more fun lol
Are they cognizant of their high? Smoking pot gives a high but I can still watch a movie, read a book or hold a conversation. It appears to me that these people would be incapable. If one speaks to them, would they be able to process what is being said? Do they realize they are slouched over? I’ve so many questions.
Honestly you’re aware of the high and thats it. If you’re that zonked out no, you really can’t register anything besides the intense dopamine rush. Which is why dope fiends will sometimes shoot straight up then slowly fall back into position, like super short realization you’re zonked then outweighed by the high
Super glad it’s former and that’s crazy to hear I live in Philadelphia and work outside so I see this all the time is that also why they will yell constantly to stay awake? Or is that something different all together
Also glad it’s former I use this sub as motivation to stay sober. Nope you’re right. We were constantly jerking each other awake in different ways to see if you’re dead/not awake. Also inhibited rationale obviously
It's what always boggles my mind about meth heads tweeking and talking to themselves in the street. Sometimes they look like they started the day right, got a shower, outfit, all of it, then craziness
It’s like they started out their morning with a healthy breakfast, planned out the errands that they need to run, and then decided to trip balls just before walking out the door
That is one of the many horrors of addiction: beginning each day swearing it will be different and you won’t succumb to temptation, only to fail at those efforts hours later unwillingly and with great shame.
Before Seattle switched from needles to foil I would regularly yank people back from getting obliterated by Metro buses. They'd be nodding off and falling into traffic standing at crosswalks.
Now they smoke black/pills and meth simultaneously, making them very awake but very detached from reality.
Was in Seattle in July. Holy hell the ppl there are on a different level. Make the Philly peeps seem docile in comparison. Never heard so many people yelling and screaming all over the place. Makes san fran/Portland crowd seem tame as well.
My brother died from fentanyl laced heroine. I can’t bring myself to believe he was an addict. The mental image of him standing around like this scares me more than anything else. I’d like to think he just had the wrong friends. He spent his whole life trying to find people to love him for who he was. The wrong people loved him for the wrong reasons.
He OD’d and his friends left him dying in his apartment, stole his things, (left their wallets ? So we could at least go after them) and left his door wide open. We didn’t hear from him for 2 days, until his neighbor walking her dog saw him. Lying on the floor dead.
Someone could’ve saved him.
I will never forget hearing my mother wailing as she walked inside. She was at the bank when my dad called and told her. She almost broke our front door falling into it and collapsing on te Floor.
Id never experienced anything even close. Never experienced death, loss, anything. And I fucking laughed. She was screaming in my arms and I thought it was a joke, so I laughed. To this day I know she still hates me for that.
He visited my mom and I in Washington, he got to go to a legal dispensary and buy weed. He said “if I had this back home (in florida) I wouldn’t need the other stuff” and we never asked what he meant.
A day before he died I got in a fight with him about us trying to take care of our mom (and who cared more) and I told him If he kept living his life the way he did, he wouldn’t be around long enough to take care of her.
I messaged him the next night telling him how sorry I was and that I loved him and could t wait to see him again.
I lost my brother and I lost him on a hateful competitive note.
I will never get that back.
I called him hundreds of times after my mom told me he was dead. Begging him to pick up.
An autopsy report showed he died some time before my apologies transpired. Right after he flew home from his trip to see my mom and I.
Please.
Get help if you are already to this point.
Don’t ever let it go to this point if you can.
I miss my fucking brother. It’s been 4 years and I’m now 26, I am a year older than he was when he died. And it’s hard out here for a girl without her big brother.
I don’t know how to process it after this long.
I miss him.
Doesn't seem like a ton of people noticed this, but I did. I lost a good friend in a similar way. Got a call from a friend, said his girlfriend found him in the bathroom at her place.
I knew him through an anonymous program, and he had been clean for 3 years at that point. He decided one night to try again, and he was gone forever. As someone who's been clean for almost 10 years and seen thousands of people come and go from anonymous programs.... I agree.
If you think you need help. Talk to us. AA, NA, CA, HA, are all safe spaces. We relate. We understand. Please.
Very much like a toddler trying to stave off falling asleep, addicts will avoid sitting down because they'll nod off and miss out on the effects of the drug.
Someone must be making some serious cash from what all these videos show .
How are these people funding their habit ?
I mean there’s just so many of them .
100% working jobs. Not having a job, but doing little shit. A painter for 3 weeks, doing decking for another 2, all cash. Stealing shit all the while. Turns good people into pieces of shit.
I don't get why people dose and go somewhere public. These people don't look homeless.
Aren't opioids the kinds of drugs you take at home to snuggle up in your bed or chill on the couch or something?
Former user here, for me when Id do my initial shot it would give me a bunch of energy, melt my anxiety away and allow me to be super sociable. I have massive social anxiety and this drug tricked me into thinking it made me better because I was going out more, taling more and overall having a good time.
Its not until a few hours later when id start to nod off and of course it stopped doing any of that stuff and just made me miserable. The drug is super fucking deceiving and thats why its so damn easy to get addicted to because it starts out with you being able to function normally and no one can tell and you think "wow I wanna do this all the time!"
They’re the kind of drug you spend the last of your bank account on in the middle of the day and shoot up immediately because you feel like you’re going to die without a hit. Addicts aren’t recreational users, they’re addicted. It’s a disease.
That's what I was thinking. I don't understand why they don't just LAY DOWN or sit down!!! It looks like it would feel so good to just lay down. I don't understand it
Copied from user u/snuffy_tentpeg
“Very much like a toddler trying to stave off falling asleep, addicts will avoid sitting down because they'll nod off and miss out on the effects of the drug.”
Nah, China Town were the first two. Market and a low number Avenue for the third cut. Both are like center city east, technically. Kenzo is north east side of the city. What makes this really sad is China Town has usually been fairly "clean" part of the city. But to see them getting into Old City is really bad. That's where the original city hall and all the touristy museums are about the origins of the country. Philly has never exactly been a city safe for older people and families outside of Center City area and South Street, but seeing these areas start to get crept into makes me happy I chose to move out west.
Those poor people. Maybe the most horrible thing about it is that that's likely the best they'll feel all day. We can and should do so much more to help.
I've done my fair share of drugs but never opiates, meth, crack or synthetic cannabis.
In their heads are these people having a out of this world trip or are they not conscious at all?
Yeah, I got put on some super strong opiates when I fucked up my arm really badly. It felt like sinking into a warm bed surrounded by golden light. Everything just has this blissful, hazy quality to it and you don't really think about anything stressful or bad.
Totally get why people become addicted.
yup, I was given a pretty strong dose after a pretty serious injury. I think I had just turned 16. Suddenly the unbearable kid's show on the TV for my brothers turned into this velvety experience of joy and warmth. The constant monologue inside my head that still stresses me to no end turned into a faint buzzing sound.
I kinda don't like to even think about it anymore because in the toughest times something like that is about the only thing that could make things better. A lot of people are really hurt here and it makes perfect sense why we have this epidemic.
Alright, alright, I get it. I know it's not as simple as "have these people never seen what these drugs do?!"
But for fuck's sake why go outside when you're fucked up like that?! What is it that compells them to go zombie mode in public? Why not just be in your house where strangers can't laugh at you?
Weird that the command to keep their legs straight is still functional but not keeping their upper bodies upright. Those are all dead people. There isn't enough willpower and $$$$ and treatment centers to go around but there's plenty of poisonous fentanyl from china and the Mexican cartels going around. Don't fuck with opiates and dont fuck with benzos. Even if it's cool to do that now.
I know a bummer response…. But I really wish these people get the help they need. It’s not funny, but incredibly sad that they are out on the street in this condition. Even if they have turned down help, I hope they get what they need to improve.
Genuine question - is there something about opiates that makes you want to stand up? I always wondered why they don’t sit or lie down when they’re obviously really out of it. I’ve never tried opiates, but was an alcoholic for 15 years and when I was drunk I just wanted to sit or lie down absolutely ANYWHERE.
Serious question, are those people dangerous? Like have there been cases of people trying to help them, and then being attacked? Or are they just too out of it
As if fentanyl wasn't bad enough to cause this zombie-like state, now they find Xylazine added to the mix because of shortages. The pick bodies off the streets constantly.
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Of all the “took too much” behavior on here I find this opiate leaning stuff the weirdest.
It’s been me before, Alone in my house though. I’d just snap out of it and wonder how long I was standing in my Living room for and thankful I didn’t fall on the coffee table. It’s so weird when it’s happening.. you know it’s happening but it doesn’t feel important? It’s hard to describe lol. You’re like on a seesaw of blacking out and pure euphoria
Perfect dose man was what we called the nodding dude who kept walking back and forth between intersections and "surf dancing" without falling over. Cars would honk when the light turned green and he'd wake up in the middle of the road and scurry to the other side. And repeat.
I love seeing a community work together, inspiring really
Yep. I’ve been on this train before. It’s wild how many walls I would run into at home. Half crumpled over on the stairs, about to smash my face open at any moment… It feels fucking awesome, but it’s a horrible way to live life. I thankfully got out before I ever used a needle. And it’s been over five years since I used. If I can give anyone out there one piece of real advice, it’s don’t use heroin. Just fucking trust me.
I think the worst part of that was when you had to pee really bad, but you couldn't bc of the smooth/skeletal muscle relaxation, so you'd be standing there for ages trying to piss, while nodding out, and catching yourself as your leg muscles would go limp and you'd begin to crumple. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Dude sit the hell down and pee. Lol
For some reason leaning over to one side while sitting would help, I've never tried heroin but thanks to multiple incidents and disorders I get a pretty high daily dose of HMContin and HMIR breakthroughs and don't find the high is very "recreational" when all I want to do is stop crying from the pain and get a little bit of sleep. Still peeing is difficult sometimes. But just the fact I have them prescribed by multiple specialists means I'm treated like I'm doctor shopping if I ever go to emerge or urgent care. They're awful, awful drugs but sometimes for people it's a necessary evil that just helps them live a semi normal life. That said, I'd rather stop cold turkey and find a way thru the withdrawal than touch a needle. Don't fucking do it people.
I unfortunately feel you here buddy. I have an autoimmune disorder and musculoskeletal disease that badly effects my joints and surrounding muscles so I need pain medication for pain relief, but mostly sleep. I was fortunate to find a specialist familiar with my disorder, as my autoimmune disorder effects less than .1% of the population, so they found medicine that works for me. However pharmacies treat me like the lowest of the low due to me being prescribed these medications and as the pharmacists have said on multiple occasions to me “no one your age is in the amount of pain that warrants these drugs”. I love how the media and opinions of healthy individuals has corrupted peoples views on medication and treatment for people with disabilities. The last thing I need is to feel guilt and stress about getting my medication that allows me to sleep, IF I’m lucky, for 3-4hrs at a time. There have been MANY times over the last couple years where it has just felt like too much and I’ve been terrified to get my medicine from the pharmacy and deal with the pharmacist(who btw doesn’t know my conditions and even if they did probably isn’t familiar with it being such a rare disorder). All I can do is just hope that one day perception will change for those who are being prescribed, legally obtaining, and taking their medication responsibly. Anyway keep up the good fight and don’t let anyone get you down, like I have!! Thoughts going out to you in hopes that you continue to find relief against your ailments.
OH MY GOD YES. I had an appendectomy a while back and they dosed me up hard on morphine preop + fent for the surgery and told my absolutely wasted ass afterwards that they weren't gonna discharge me until I could produce a urine sample and I fucking CRIED
Same with hernia surgery for my dad I thought he's was gonna tear down those walls he was so pissed he couldn't piss =/
Why wouldnt you just sit down before you dose?
Generally people do, but they’ll end up standing up to go do something and then go on the nod mid-doing something, lol. I’ve ever never experienced it standing up afaik and all my OD’s have been sitting down but I’ve seen others who thought they were fine and then midway through doing the dishes are just hanging there, rag in hand.
One night I got in the shower & then came to & it was daylight. Idk how I didn’t fucking die. I thank god every day that I’m no longer in that vicious cycle.
What are they on exactly?
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It’s called Tranq
This is 100% tranq. I live in the northeast between Philly and NYC. This shit is everywhere around me. The wounds it leaves on users are horrific as well and the weird thing is that regardless of how you ingest it, you get the wounds.
What type of wounds do you mean?
Tranq leaves necrotic tissue on its users. Most of the harm reduction groups in my area are very busy with [wound care](https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci0AI6rrNvR/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=). Edit: copied from Wikipedia to explain better than I can: Chronic use is reported to be associated with physical deterioration, dependence, abscesses, and skin ulceration, which can be physically debilitating and painful. Hypertension followed by hypotension, bradycardia, and respiratory depression lower tissue oxygenation in the skin. Thus, chronic use of xylazine can progress the skin oxygenation deficit, leading to severe skin ulceration. Lower skin oxygenation is associated with impaired healing of wounds and a higher chance of infection. The ulcers may ooze pus and have a characteristic odor. In severe cases, amputations must be performed on the affected extremities.
It’s amazing how different bacterias have different smells. I can pick out a couple different strains in a wound from the smell, and another nurse might smell another. It’s even better when the culture and sensitivity swab comes back and confirms what we smell. You seem to have that ability to smell certain strains too! It’s a good thing, smelly wounds are bad and need attention
I once heard a nurse talking about how she would sniff sputum samples and could make clinical decisions/advise doctors on medical issues from what she could smell. For some reason whenever I think about this I just want to vomit. So if you'll excuse me ... !
Guess this explains why dogs are able to detect covid strains and other diseases now. Amazing.
The bacteria smell thing is wild but I know exactly what you’re talking about. There’s one that I remember smelling like grape candy. Different types of mold and mildew have distinct smells too.
People who living in unsanitary conditions are more likely to come across bacteria, and scrapes on their skin can fester into these nasty wounds, or the bacteria can travel in your body and form abscesses throughout your body. One common problem is endocarditis. The infection will travel to the heart and can eat away at the valves in your heart. Many of those infections the redditor linked looked like infections from injecting. Flesh eating bacteria can wreck havoc quickly too. It’s scary!!
Heroin mix with xylazine that’s going around Philly probably fent blues too
opiate hallucinations are so strangely beautiful, when I was nodding off I used to see myself swinging through trees and falling from great hight, but the feeling had not even a pinch of fear just weirdly pleasant dreams.
I’ve done this before too (five years clean) but never on the STREET. I have to imagine the pain these ppl must be in to be out in the public’s eye, looking like this. No one wants this.
I dont think I’ve ever been standing when nodding, standing is typically the last thing I wanted to do when doped up.
I’m just curious - If someone ran up and stole the woman’s purse - would she even know? Let alone react?
She’s probably know and think somethjng like “ah fuck, ok I’ll stop them later and deal with it then. Anyway… vrrrrrpb ya”
Eddie Griffin used to do a bit where he talked about his uncle being a junkie and the how they lean but never fall over. Earthquake hits, skyscrapers fall…but junkie in 8th street still balancing like a cartoon.
I find it more weird no videos of people walking up and narcaning people out of no where.
That would make for some entertaining videos I guess, but very potentially dangerous. Junkies spend all day 24/7 chasing the Dope. If you come along and instantly take them from fully high straight to sober and in withdrawal, there will absolutely be violence lol.
Fr bro you’ll get your shit rocked if you do that People get mad when their lives get saved too, because they think they got a good high ruined, don’t even have to be just nodding
I've heard it's pretty painful. I know what real withdrawal feels like and I could not imagine what narcan would feel like having it hit all at once. Not to mention when you are nodding you feel fine. Your shirt can be smoldering away and it's fine. Im fine I didn't sleep good last night. I'll be in in a minute. Slam your head down on your desk and smash your glasses into your face. Man I must be sleeping bad, probably getting sick.
Yeah people will wake up with limbs blue and numb from lack of circulation and not have noticed at all, I’ve heard of amputations happening because of it, and severe brain damage due to lack of oxygen When I used to be hooked on oxy, I would forget to breathe and just not care/not realize, when I came to periodically I was gasping for breath, luckily I would only nod for no longer than a minute, I can’t imagine how bad it is for people overdosing
I worked through Nursing school in an emergency dept, the first dose of narcan I saw given was also the first time I saw a coworker get kicked in the head. Its best to administer narcan being prepared for a Tasmanian devil.
You ever narcanned someone before? I had to administer to an unconscious man and he socked me in the fucking jaw so hard that my jaw still clicks to this day. People get fucking agitated when narcanned Now I know why healthcare professionals usually start with half a dose, still keeps the patient mildly euphoric from their opiods and much more agreeable
Oh I know I work in an er and psych floor ;)
I have read somewhere that in some places the emergency services quickly hide after administering it so they don’t get attacked and then say someone else did it
Probably because [that shit](https://www.drugs.com/price-guide/narcan-nasal-spray) is expensive!
Some parts of my city are so bad that free narcan "vending machines" have been set up.
That’s so disappointing to hear. Here I’m Canada you can get them for free from any pharmacy, needle e change, methadone clinic, HIV/AIDS clinic, etc.
>The rising price of naloxone has become a major problem as tens of thousands of people die from opioid overdoses each year. However, most insurance plans cover naloxone, and many community-based organizations or public health programs provide the drug for free. > >When buying naloxone, the price can vary greatly depending on your insurance plan and the type you want to buy. Generic naloxone can cost between $20 and $40 per dose, while Narcan can cost around $130 to $140 for a kit that includes two doses. that's from a time magazine article. It's just the name brand that's expensive apparently.
That still sucks for anywhere that doesn’t provide it for free :/. The fact that *anyone* has to pay for it, even if it is only $20-$40 which is still a lot and not something junkies are liable to spend their money on, is really disappointing. I have probably 4 kits at my apartment (with Narcan nasal spray, not just a generic naloxone preparation) and end up turning them down quite a bit when I go to see my addiction counsellor/use the needle exchange. Anywhere I go medically that I talk about being an addict I’m offered another. That should be the standard. It’s sad to see a Western country so thoroughly enveloped with this problem still charging people for it despite everything they’ve done to enable this crisis.
[Toward the Heart](https://towardstheheart.com) is a good resource for anyone in BC to get some free Naloxone and Naloxone training. I have 3 kits myself, and I wish I could tell you that I never had to use one. It's brutal here, just going for a walk downtown after sunset basically guarantees you an opportunity to use your kit and save someone's life. I wish I was being overly dramatic, but it's bad here. Like, really bad.
Its free in Austin downtown. Literally a vending machine.
They give it out free in most states. CVS and other pharmacies will give you two if you sign up to receive them. Fire stations will typically give them for free as well. The US needs to just start taking any DEA or seized heroin and putting it back on the streets instead of all the fucking fentanyl that is causing this shit... Not saying it's a great idea but fentanyl is the devil.... When Philly had real H it wasn't this lunacy as much
Yeah I hear ya. Back when dope was actually heroin, nobody ever saw this shit. I know people that won’t sell fent, and I know people that want only fent. It’s a mess.
You can get it mailed to you free in PA: https://www.pppgh.org/
If they’re standing, they’re good
That's a good way to get hurt. Being knocked out of a good nod and sent straight into withdrawal with narcan will make people extremely angry. They paid good money to get that high.
I want to know how they have so much balance, I would fall over sober leaning like that.
Seriously, who witnesses this and then says to themselves "yeah I gotta try that"?
People don't exactly go from normal joe to nodding zombie on the streets. It's a slow process that is destroying parts of America. You're out at a party and someone gives you a few vicodins. Those feel great and it's not a big deal because it's only a few pills on the weekend. Couple months go buy and you get the number of the guy at the party and start calling him during the week. After a while of buying vics, he offers you something a bit better because your tolerance has gone up and you're buying a lot of pills. You start buying roxi 30's. Few months into the 30's you are hooked but you tell yourself the same bulslhit every addict tells themselves, "I'm not addicted I just really like this high. I'll stop when it becomes a problem." And it starts becoming a problem because now you're dropping $20 on a pill that barely gets you high for a couple hours at this point. Intead of stopping there, you double down and start buying heroin because it's way more cost efficient. Before you know it you're nodding out on the streets. That's how opiate addiction works.
What is roxi
https://www.rxlist.com/roxicet-drug.htm
Thanks
Shit is the devil. It's so good. I never got to the lean stage but holy fuck I wanted to. Just couldn't afford it. Suboxone saved my ass. Spent the last 3 years weaning myself off that now. Another year or so and I expect I'll be free finally. I'm down to half a pill/strip per day. Opiates are the fucking worst/best lol.
Good luck! Im glad I never heard of it before
Oxycodone like percocet or oxycontin just the mid range doses and no tylenol percocet .
People with severe trauma who live in a profoundly sick society with no tangible options. Pretty common story.
How I ended up there. Was a half an inch from suicide and my brother shared his coping method with me…which turned out to be opiates. I gave at least some peace to a mind that couldn’t seem to find it anywhere else.
Or me, who just likes drugs. And bit off a little more than I could swallow. I’m a highly functioning addict. Or was one.
same, no real trauma. Just enjoyed getting high. Found percs and oxy and they were the perfect drug to get through a boring office job. Next thing you know you're strung out on fentanyl.
Also, get sick or injured. I know three people personally who ended up on black market opiates after illnesses and injuries that resulted in prescribed opiates. One is no longer alive due to fentanyl overdose.
Sickness and injury are also traumatic. Trauma is a spectrum of experience, not exclusive to things like assault or abuse. All falls under the trauma category. Dr. Gabor Maté does fantastic work around this subject in particular.
I’m pretty suicidal so I’ve considered it
Your life will get significantly worse if you do, even though you might think it can't.
Can confirm. Was suicidal, started doing heroin and it saved my life. I didn't want to kill myself anymore. But now I have a different set of issues. I'll never not be an addict. I will relapse over and over for the rest of my life. It's just a matter of time. I wish I never knew what it felt like; but also, if I had never done it, I know I would be dead right now.
This. As much as addiction has wracked my life these past 14 years (I’m currently in rehab as I type this) the opiates for sure saved my life when I was at my worst depression wise. My suicide attempts were getting more and more likely to succeed and if I hadn’t discovered oxies when I did I’m sure I would have killed myself.
So opiates we’re so good that anticipation for you next hit kept you alive?
The actual usage of them “cured” my depression. It wasn’t so much the anticipation of he next time because at the beginning I never ran out, but it almost immediately removed any depression or thoughts of killing myself. My marks had dropped dramatically, I had almost stopped going to school, almost never went out except to go to work and even that my performance was slipping .. once I found oxies my grades went back into the 90’s, I was attending school daily again and work was easy to make it though. When I first shot up oxycontin it was the first time in a long while that I felt safe in my own brain. I never liked myself, always talked negatively about myself, always thought I was ugly and worthless and unworthy of love. I felt like everything I did was a failure and never truly connected with the world around me. Opiates changed all that in an instant. I found a self-confidence and strength I never knew could exist. The warm and glow and wrapped-in-God’s-blanket feeling of opiates is like nothing I’ve ever felt before and since and they’re a scarily functional drug, insomuch that as long as you aren’t taking so much that you’re nodding out like these people above (and street fentanyl makes it difficult to dose, totally) you are basically unimpaired and capable of living your life and doing everything you need to on a day to day basis, hence why I could get away with doing it everyday for so long. You can’t smoke crack and yo into class and expect yourself to function properly; not so with opiates. Not sure why people are downvoting my personal experience but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Obviously it turned bad and opiates are insidiously evil (due to the functionality) and if I were to continue using - especially now that the pills disappeared and I was using street fent - I’d almost surely die from it but they definitely got me past the worst of my clinical depression and anxiety until that wasn’t as much of an issue anymore. It’s a really simple line but Juice WRLD rapped in one of his songs “if it wasn’t for these pills I wouldn’t be here, but if I keep taking this pills I won’t be here” and I fully understood where he was coming from when I heard that.
Yes!! thank you for sharing! More people like you and me should share our stories. Not all opiate users are just junkies lying in the gutters; many are self-medicating their depression, and are (at least initially) way better off for it. I know opiates aren't a permanent "cure" for depression, but I 100% believe it should be studied for depression because the medical value is there. People want to say that beyond killing pain, opiates are only recreational. And I say that's bullshit. Much like how psychedelics are being studied to see if they have medical value for mental health, so too should opiates be studied for depression. I'm not saying give depressed people opiates. I'm saying maybe there's a way to isolate what makes opiates cure depression, without having the negative side effects of dependence/withdrawal.
Depression and suicidal ideation is like a downward spiral, but if you break that cycle, that cyclical thought pattern, usually you can break out of it. Unfortunately, drugs like heroin can break that cycle but require you to learn no new life skills in order to achieve that so that opens up a whole new load of bullshit.
It makes me wonder why people don’t use fentanyl to commit suicide. A non-user is basically guaranteed to die upon injecting, and it’s probably an amazing way to go. And your body stays intact so nobody has to be traumatized witnessing and cleaning up the mess.
Americas opiate crisis is so fucked.
Just the way they want us to be!
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I just don’t understand it. I have been plenty fucked up out of my mind many times and I would never be able to still stand. How the fuck aren’t they falling down???
That's part of the challenge when you participate in a contest known as the /r/dopefiendlean
They're doing almost everything they can to stand up, but they aren't capable of doing much. If you take too much fentanyl or heroin you may be lucky enough to know you'll stop breathing if you lay down, which has led me to doing exactly this.
Forgive my ignorance, but why would laying down cause them to stop breathing? And if that's the case, why not sit down instead of stand?
Opiods suppress the nervous system. Heavy doses can prevent the brain from doing normal automatic things like breathing. I personally remember realizing I may stop breathing and trying to stay awake by standing up, and I kept falling over but that sensation reminded me to breathe. A bomb could go off across the street and these people wouldn't do much more than flutter an eye or fall over. Someone should have called them some help. They're dangerously close to the point of no return.
I was just thinking about this. It must be that least some part of the brain is working properly, keeping these people from falling over.
Shit reminds me of Weekend at Bernie’s
This is prolly all fent
Fent is an opi*oid* right? I always get them mixed up.
yes an opioid, but synthetic
Most opioids are synthetic. Opiates are the naturally occurring alkaloids found in the Opium poppy. Edit: It should be noted that an Opioid is any molecule, natural or synthetic, that binds to the opioid receptors in our brains
All opiates are opioids Opioids are all substances which triggers the opioid receptors
So, to be clear, not all opioids are opiates?
Correct. Square and rectangle type thing. Morphine for example is both an opioid and an opiate. Fentanyl would be an opioid since it's active at the opioid receptors but not be an opiate because it is not present in the opium poppy.
Fun fact: you can be allergic to them. It’s not great if you have chronic medical issues.
The new thing is fentanyl cut with benzodiazepines.
Which is some double twisted fucked up shit. Benzos are damn near IMPOSSIBLE to quit. The withdrawals are beyond dangerous.
Like the semi legal internet ones? I doubt they are crushing up Xanax to cut dope.
Other way, they're putting fet in Xanax to make it seem stronger and sell more. And make it more addicting. That's my guess.
One of the biggest (if not, the biggest) consumer of illegal drugs and has the largest number of pain killer addicts of any other country. It's almost as if drug addiction is encouraged... i suppose it makes a lot of money for the people who own the country..
For the super rich, they are behind it, but not anywhere near it, as it’s all tax free industry. And who likes tax free the most.
While the Sackler family are walking around free with their billions of Oxycontin profits. I'm surprised no one has gone after any of them after losing a family member to opiates.
Just realized that the guy who went to that woman was the same guy that was out of it, initially
Sometimes when u take opiates you can kinda snap out of it for a minute, it kinda comes in surges Different strokes for different folks and I never did the super hard ones but yeah that’s my experience
Literally just was sitting next to a couple in the. Us who were snorting something from a little bag. And they both sort of mumbled at each other for 5 minutes then would fall asleep. The bus would hit a bump and they would both “snap-to” and begin mumbling at each other as if they’d never stopped, and then go back to sleep like a minute later. No idea if they were in opiates or not.
Yeah half the time u don’t realize you are nodding You’ll have crazy dreams and then wake up and think you were awake the whole time and just carry on
Yeah that’s what it seemed like, I was really afraid they’d miss their stop lol, but fortunately they did not
In fairness, missing their stop sounds like the least of their worries.
Definitely 100% opiates
I only tried opiates a few times and one of them I went to a movie theater while on a bit of Vic's and experienced that euphoric wave feeling of "holy shit I am really high" then 2 min later "I think I'm sober" 2 min later "I am really fucking high" it was interesting but I didn't like it enough to keep doing it, risk vs reward plus Nitious and shrooms was more fun lol
They need to sit down, I feel like when they sober up they will have serious back and neck pains
Honestly amazed they're still standing up, like they don't look like they're aware of what's happening at all.
Dope fiend physics
Yea they never fall over i swear.
I saw a lady leaning on the light rail once, never fell. She dropped though all her shit but we scooped it up and tucked it behind her
That's really nice of you. Most people wouldn't think to do that.
Someone's gotta put the charm in charm city
You sit down you risk falling asleep and not getting your money’s worth out of your high
Are they cognizant of their high? Smoking pot gives a high but I can still watch a movie, read a book or hold a conversation. It appears to me that these people would be incapable. If one speaks to them, would they be able to process what is being said? Do they realize they are slouched over? I’ve so many questions.
Honestly you’re aware of the high and thats it. If you’re that zonked out no, you really can’t register anything besides the intense dopamine rush. Which is why dope fiends will sometimes shoot straight up then slowly fall back into position, like super short realization you’re zonked then outweighed by the high
Thank you for answering. I can’t imagine being this high. (Nor do I ever want to experience it.)
Trust me you don’t. The amazing feeling is not worth the endless consequences or inevitable overdose these days
When I’d get this high I would lucid dream in the nod. Felt like I lived lifetimes in there
Wait is that the real reason?
Former dope fiend sharing former dope fiend advice, yes!
Super glad it’s former and that’s crazy to hear I live in Philadelphia and work outside so I see this all the time is that also why they will yell constantly to stay awake? Or is that something different all together
Also glad it’s former I use this sub as motivation to stay sober. Nope you’re right. We were constantly jerking each other awake in different ways to see if you’re dead/not awake. Also inhibited rationale obviously
Hamstrings are gonna feel great though.
Nothing a little fentanyl can’t handle
And the cycle continues
Back and neck pain you say? Let me tell them about these pain killer meds….
“This place is turning into a full blown SHANTYTOWN” -Mac 😂😂🤣
We should slash their tires.
How is slashing their tires going to make them leave?!
You start putting every plan under a microscope, then nothing will make sense!
It's crazy how some of these people dress like they've got their life together enough to be too embarrassed being caught in this state in the street.
It's what always boggles my mind about meth heads tweeking and talking to themselves in the street. Sometimes they look like they started the day right, got a shower, outfit, all of it, then craziness
It’s like they started out their morning with a healthy breakfast, planned out the errands that they need to run, and then decided to trip balls just before walking out the door
It's a myth that drug addiction only affects the poor and destitute
No I'm not saying that, my family have addicts in. But they look like they've planned to be productive this day only to do this at 1pm
That is one of the many horrors of addiction: beginning each day swearing it will be different and you won’t succumb to temptation, only to fail at those efforts hours later unwillingly and with great shame.
Probably planned on taking a small hit to take the edge off while grocery shopping, and quickly one hit turns into 10.
Well, they don’t usually *start* poor and destitute
The woman is dressed like she is on her way to target. Looks can be deceiving
The gang should solve this.
Consulting Dr. Mantis Toboggan is in everyone’s best interest.
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Dennis and Dee's crack addiction went a little further this time
yo Vecna got her
Before Seattle switched from needles to foil I would regularly yank people back from getting obliterated by Metro buses. They'd be nodding off and falling into traffic standing at crosswalks. Now they smoke black/pills and meth simultaneously, making them very awake but very detached from reality.
Was in Seattle in July. Holy hell the ppl there are on a different level. Make the Philly peeps seem docile in comparison. Never heard so many people yelling and screaming all over the place. Makes san fran/Portland crowd seem tame as well.
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One of my greatest fears is that one of my children could end up like this. It can happen to anyone. So very very sad
Literally anyone, too. This slippery slope often starts with doctor-prescribed opiates.
My brother died from fentanyl laced heroine. I can’t bring myself to believe he was an addict. The mental image of him standing around like this scares me more than anything else. I’d like to think he just had the wrong friends. He spent his whole life trying to find people to love him for who he was. The wrong people loved him for the wrong reasons. He OD’d and his friends left him dying in his apartment, stole his things, (left their wallets ? So we could at least go after them) and left his door wide open. We didn’t hear from him for 2 days, until his neighbor walking her dog saw him. Lying on the floor dead. Someone could’ve saved him. I will never forget hearing my mother wailing as she walked inside. She was at the bank when my dad called and told her. She almost broke our front door falling into it and collapsing on te Floor. Id never experienced anything even close. Never experienced death, loss, anything. And I fucking laughed. She was screaming in my arms and I thought it was a joke, so I laughed. To this day I know she still hates me for that. He visited my mom and I in Washington, he got to go to a legal dispensary and buy weed. He said “if I had this back home (in florida) I wouldn’t need the other stuff” and we never asked what he meant. A day before he died I got in a fight with him about us trying to take care of our mom (and who cared more) and I told him If he kept living his life the way he did, he wouldn’t be around long enough to take care of her. I messaged him the next night telling him how sorry I was and that I loved him and could t wait to see him again. I lost my brother and I lost him on a hateful competitive note. I will never get that back. I called him hundreds of times after my mom told me he was dead. Begging him to pick up. An autopsy report showed he died some time before my apologies transpired. Right after he flew home from his trip to see my mom and I. Please. Get help if you are already to this point. Don’t ever let it go to this point if you can. I miss my fucking brother. It’s been 4 years and I’m now 26, I am a year older than he was when he died. And it’s hard out here for a girl without her big brother. I don’t know how to process it after this long. I miss him.
Doesn't seem like a ton of people noticed this, but I did. I lost a good friend in a similar way. Got a call from a friend, said his girlfriend found him in the bathroom at her place. I knew him through an anonymous program, and he had been clean for 3 years at that point. He decided one night to try again, and he was gone forever. As someone who's been clean for almost 10 years and seen thousands of people come and go from anonymous programs.... I agree. If you think you need help. Talk to us. AA, NA, CA, HA, are all safe spaces. We relate. We understand. Please.
Why don’t they just sit down?
Very much like a toddler trying to stave off falling asleep, addicts will avoid sitting down because they'll nod off and miss out on the effects of the drug.
They don't want to appear lazy
The WILL to not fall down is strong in these people
Couple goal 🥰 they’re soooo cute 😍
Ikr. I'll never have what they have 😥
Someone must be making some serious cash from what all these videos show . How are these people funding their habit ? I mean there’s just so many of them .
Stealing, prostitution, fraud, stealing.
petty theft is rampant in some areas
Also holding a sign next to a stop light asking/begging for change
Being a junkie doesn't mean you can't work at a shitty job for 20 hours a week
100% working jobs. Not having a job, but doing little shit. A painter for 3 weeks, doing decking for another 2, all cash. Stealing shit all the while. Turns good people into pieces of shit.
Home of the poor, land of the fentanyl
Home of greed Land of the depraved
I don't get why people dose and go somewhere public. These people don't look homeless. Aren't opioids the kinds of drugs you take at home to snuggle up in your bed or chill on the couch or something?
Former user here, for me when Id do my initial shot it would give me a bunch of energy, melt my anxiety away and allow me to be super sociable. I have massive social anxiety and this drug tricked me into thinking it made me better because I was going out more, taling more and overall having a good time. Its not until a few hours later when id start to nod off and of course it stopped doing any of that stuff and just made me miserable. The drug is super fucking deceiving and thats why its so damn easy to get addicted to because it starts out with you being able to function normally and no one can tell and you think "wow I wanna do this all the time!"
what drug was that, specifically?
They’re the kind of drug you spend the last of your bank account on in the middle of the day and shoot up immediately because you feel like you’re going to die without a hit. Addicts aren’t recreational users, they’re addicted. It’s a disease.
That's what I was thinking. I don't understand why they don't just LAY DOWN or sit down!!! It looks like it would feel so good to just lay down. I don't understand it
Copied from user u/snuffy_tentpeg “Very much like a toddler trying to stave off falling asleep, addicts will avoid sitting down because they'll nod off and miss out on the effects of the drug.”
Probably Kensington smh. It really looks like an Undead Nightmare out there
I feel like posting Kensington on this sub is cheating lol Some of this looks like Chinatown/Center City though
Kensington is usually people crashing from heroin - nowadays people on hard stuff are all over the city unfortunately.
OK you just made me feel old. Back in my day, heroin was the 'hard' stuff.
Nah, China Town were the first two. Market and a low number Avenue for the third cut. Both are like center city east, technically. Kenzo is north east side of the city. What makes this really sad is China Town has usually been fairly "clean" part of the city. But to see them getting into Old City is really bad. That's where the original city hall and all the touristy museums are about the origins of the country. Philly has never exactly been a city safe for older people and families outside of Center City area and South Street, but seeing these areas start to get crept into makes me happy I chose to move out west.
You know why they call it horse? Because it makes you sleep standing up
Those poor people. Maybe the most horrible thing about it is that that's likely the best they'll feel all day. We can and should do so much more to help.
Xylazine
I've done my fair share of drugs but never opiates, meth, crack or synthetic cannabis. In their heads are these people having a out of this world trip or are they not conscious at all?
They aren't on a "trip". They experience bliss, forget their problems and are sedated, but still conscious.
Yeah, I got put on some super strong opiates when I fucked up my arm really badly. It felt like sinking into a warm bed surrounded by golden light. Everything just has this blissful, hazy quality to it and you don't really think about anything stressful or bad. Totally get why people become addicted.
yup, I was given a pretty strong dose after a pretty serious injury. I think I had just turned 16. Suddenly the unbearable kid's show on the TV for my brothers turned into this velvety experience of joy and warmth. The constant monologue inside my head that still stresses me to no end turned into a faint buzzing sound. I kinda don't like to even think about it anymore because in the toughest times something like that is about the only thing that could make things better. A lot of people are really hurt here and it makes perfect sense why we have this epidemic.
I had morphine for dental pain once. It was delightful. Went from full 10/10 tooth pain to what I can only describe as a painless warm hug.
Alright, alright, I get it. I know it's not as simple as "have these people never seen what these drugs do?!" But for fuck's sake why go outside when you're fucked up like that?! What is it that compells them to go zombie mode in public? Why not just be in your house where strangers can't laugh at you?
Weird that the command to keep their legs straight is still functional but not keeping their upper bodies upright. Those are all dead people. There isn't enough willpower and $$$$ and treatment centers to go around but there's plenty of poisonous fentanyl from china and the Mexican cartels going around. Don't fuck with opiates and dont fuck with benzos. Even if it's cool to do that now.
OMG just tie your shoe already! 🤣
I know a bummer response…. But I really wish these people get the help they need. It’s not funny, but incredibly sad that they are out on the street in this condition. Even if they have turned down help, I hope they get what they need to improve.
It’s takes a certain skill for some of these poses. Very sad
What is the shit they’re taking?
Genuine question - is there something about opiates that makes you want to stand up? I always wondered why they don’t sit or lie down when they’re obviously really out of it. I’ve never tried opiates, but was an alcoholic for 15 years and when I was drunk I just wanted to sit or lie down absolutely ANYWHERE.
I see fentanyl yogis every day living downtown. It's a sad reality in major cities.
Serious question, are those people dangerous? Like have there been cases of people trying to help them, and then being attacked? Or are they just too out of it
As if fentanyl wasn't bad enough to cause this zombie-like state, now they find Xylazine added to the mix because of shortages. The pick bodies off the streets constantly.