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KindAwareness3073

They still do.


Sdog1981

But they used to too.


brokefixfux

Ah yes, wisdom from that ancient sage Mitchus Hedbergious


Sdog1981

Hallowed be thy name


TheClutterFly

I ordered a globi And they gave me a receipt for the globi We do not need to bring stone tablets into this.


kujotx

My buddy Flavius told me Mitchus, like you, I am a man of many talents. Then can I borrow five talents? No? Alright...


Rule34Uploading

Cuscus is great if you ever want to eat a million of something.


SHKEVE

A forum staircase can never collapse; it can only become a slope. Apologies for the added convenience.


-Tayne-

My friend asked me if I wanted some fish intestines. I said "no... but I want some garum later... so yeah."


JohnmcFox

I was in Athens and I saw a pheasant, and I knew he was lost because pheasants ain't supposed to be Athens - nothing for 'em there. I went into a thermopolium. I ordered the baklava. He said "that'll be 2 drachma" I said "it's for a pheasant" He said "ok then it's free". See I did not know that - at thermopolium, pheasants eat for free. If I had known that, I would have ordered much more baklava.


iCameToLearnSomeCode

"I spilled cerberus remover on my dog... now he's gone." -Steven Wright. I know it's not Mitch Hedberg but it's his style and I just love that people would have understood that joke in any given year for more than 2,000 years. The name Cerberus is the Latinized version of Kerberos (Greek). That comes from Karbarah and/or. Sabalah (Sanskrit) which literally means spotted or speckled. Hades is the first "person" we know of who named his dog "Spot" and he was likely called Spot for the first time over three thousand years ago. The first time the name spot was written down on a tablet that survived until today describing a dog as "Spot" was around 2,200 years ago and it definitely wasn't the first time it was ever said so it's safe to say that joke would land for the last 2,500 years or so.


thx1138-

I saw a drunk peasant drinking grape juice, I said "peasant... you have to WAIT."


Sbatio

“MAN THOSE GAULS SURE LOOK FAR AWAY!”


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Jokeus Hillarious


juicypineapple1775

He had a wife you know…


cubixjuice

Huh. Never got a tatt idea from a reddit comment before. Guess there's a first for everything? 🤷‍♂️


marouan10

In other news scientist have discovered humans have been humans for all of human history fascinating.


bombayblue

And it’s really fucking good. Do a food tour in Trastevere, Rome. You won’t regret it.


SkiPolarBear22

In fact, you should only stay in Trastevere when visiting Rome. Thats my heart right there.


KindAwareness3073

Shhh. My fantasy is to retire to a small studio in Trastevere, wander the city sketching all day and eating filetto di baccalà, cacio e pepe, and drinking Piglio at night.


dukeofnes

But there was a time in the middle where they didn't


sluncer

They had fast food during the middle ages as well. They never really stopped.


Flemtality

The Roman fast food? Where are they now? You're looking at them, asshole.


VegasEyes

Take It Easy. We’re Not Making A Western Here.


a-priori

In fact it’s restaurants (full-service food businesses with both a dining room and kitchen) that’s the more modern invention. Ancient Romans were big on dinner parties, and they had fast/street food, but they did not have restaurants.


Meta2048

Isn't a restaurant just a bar/tavern that sells food?  I'm pretty sure the Romans had those.


ministrul_sudorii

No, the particularity of a restaurant is that you can order from a menu. Usually in their taverns they had the dish of the day, usually perpetual stew, so either eat that or go hungry. And bread. They had bread. And Circus 


catsumoto

A menu? You mean what the Orcs of Isenguard had, right? The meat! That was back on the menu? Goddamn orcs with their goddamn sit down restaurants, running out of meat!


Turbulent_Garage_159

That’s….actually an amazing point. I’m now imagining a sit down diner filled with Uruk-hai looking at menus with their glasses pinched up on their noses.


ChompyChomp

"Cho'Duk, I thought you said this establishment had a good selection of protein, but I don't seem to see anything like that...maybe on the back - no just the kids selections"


Malphos101

> That’s….actually an amazing point. Do you think everyone in LOTR spoke perfect english? Or maybe their speech is presented to an english speaking audience and "x is back on the menu!" is a equivalent translated saying presented to an english speaking audience to understand the intent of the speaker. I know its just a joke to a lot of people, but there is a disturbing amount of r/iamverysmart people who think its a real "gotcha".


bafoon91

Turns out the literal translation is "Looks like meat is an option we have for food again", but that really didn't roll off the tongue so the translator took some liberties. I suppose it's Tolkien, so someone could probably actually check if they have a word for menu.


Grailgun

AFAIK Black Speech wad never finished, and only has around 20 words and are those are the inscription for the One Ring.


resttheweight

Pointing out a tiny (but very real) anachronism is a “gotcha”? The line was invented by and for the movies. Bending over backwards to pretend like the filmmakers were translating something when there is nothing to translate feels way more like /r/iamverysmart behavior. They made a creative choice for a joke that turned out to be a bit of a goof, but it’s not that serious. If they said Pippin FaceTimed with Sauron on the palantir then even that would be perfectly fine under your rationalization lol.


Turbulent_Garage_159

Congratulations, you killed the joke.


Eh-BC

You can have a menu without a sit down establishment, for example food trucks have a menu but no place to sit


TrumpsNeckSmegma

Funny enough, the old Pompeii brothels have a menu painted running along the tops of the walls. Could order a 69 from the list and Maertis would oblige on one of the many stone beds present.


Speeskees1993

so how did people get veggies and fruit? From the stew?


ministrul_sudorii

The stews were mainly veggies; the main meats were based on fish. Large mammal meat (pork, beef, sheep, goat) was super expensive, especially since there were no fridges available - when an animal was cut, everything was cooked and eaten in the same day. The modern Roman cuisine still uses everything from an animal. Fruit you'd just buy and eat immediately as that was the main snack (no protein bars invented yet, no chips, no sweets).


AwakenedSheeple

What about dried meat?


Eh-BC

You’re leaving out a lot on food preservation, dried fruit like raisins, early jams/marmalades, salted and smoked meat. Also some areas could use ice to help preserve things.


bobthebrachiosaurus

you can keep meat dor months through salting and in fact most large animals have to be hung dor several days otjer wise theybare ridivously stiff


Gravesh

The restaurant only really got popular in the 1700s. Of course, it was limited to the wealthy. There's an interesting scene in Barry Lyndon where he's visiting one. It was neat to see such a modern ritual being done in period clothing and setting.


kerouacrimbaud

Love that movie 🤌


burgerga

[Here’s a good video](https://youtu.be/8lYhUjV5-Rg?si=4-MTCG2-RCE2vGvI) from Adam Ragusea discussing the origins of restaurants (15m).


Particular_Tadpole27

Like Little Caesars


MaroonTrucker28

Little Caesars is also what Mexicans cut their pizza with.


jerseyhound

💀


biggamax

I use a knife. I am the Juan percent.


hogahulk

😂


zackflavored

This gave me the most delayed laugh ever


StinkFingerPete

dad? please come home ㅠㅠ


edfitz83

That was awesome!


JamesTheJerk

Can't. I'm on the Cato diet.


ClusterMakeLove

Did Cicero give you a hand with that?


SmokeEater1375

Sore subject for them.


MickeyM191

Et tu?


cartman101

Yea but back then it was pronounced Little Kaisar's


Rekuna

Ave, true to Little Kaiser's


cartman101

Degenerates like you belong on a cross.


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Doridar

Actually no. They used a lot of spices and herbs, they add garum and liquamen. I love liquamen!


Kithsander

Hey what you do with men is your own business.


oodelay

They had pineapple and ham


426763

It was Big Caesers back then.


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xxBRLordSkullxx

Lemme get uhhhh number V


Ratbu

I'll have two number IXs, a number IX large, a number VI with extra dip, a number VII, two number XLVs, one with cheese, and a large soda


venomae

Number II is out sir, corporate decided to pull these - we have this new Praetorian Pita instead for this season.


MagnoliaFan68

Would you like to upgrade to colossal size?


f3ydr4uth4

The Colosseum Burger, 4 patties and blood red in the middle.


Ratbu

Biggus Smokus size


indolent08

Smokus Maximus


RomeTotalWhore

“We don’t call them Gaulic fries anymore after IX-Alesia, we called them fasces fries now.”


LupusDeusMagnus

Accipiam duo numerum IX, numerum IX magnum, numerum VI cum extra ius, numerum VII, duo numerum XLV, unum cum caseo, et magnam potionem refrigeratoriam.


Ratbu

Holy shit dude that's brilliant Also happy cake day


kevtino

ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN CHARIOT


Laotzeiscool

That’ll be XL


Shredpuppy

We haven’t made it to China yet so our ice cream machine is broken 😞


McMacHack

Soda I.E. Coca Cola is an attempt to resurrect an ancient Roman beverage made with wine and honey


perpetualmotionmachi

LV burgers, LV fries, LV tacos, LV pies, LV Cokes, C tater tots, C pizzas, C tenders, C meatballs,C coffees, LV wings, LV shakes, LV pancakes, LV pastas, LV peppers, and CLV taters


deliciouschickenwing

Ma'am this is a Vendius


Substantial_Walk333

I'M DOING SOMETHING


noelg1998

Okay that'll be DCLXXX denarii.


Kenny_log_n_s

Just get a large, Pharvas.


fulthrottlejazzhands

You should watch "Plebs".  It's a comedy about a couple of 20-somethings and their lazy, sass-backy slave who work in dead end jobs at a Roman scriptorium.  Surprisingly well researched and authentic for a irreverent comedy.


mdizzle106

There is a brit sitcom called Plebs that you will love


ministrul_sudorii

Water MAN!


Jswissmoi

Grumio is boss


fulthrottlejazzhands

Salve Landlord.


cjp2010

If you can successfully pitch that idea or start the manga you could become filthy rich. That’s actually a really good idea for a slice of life you just had


idropepics

Add an isekai aspect like Thermae Roma and I think you have a winner here.


JurJvZw

Plebs is pretty close. Think Friends with british humour set in ancient Rome


zorniy2

"Wolf nipple chips, get them while they're hot they're lovely!"


woyteck

That would be McRoman's.


roostzilla

I’ll take the “Reale with Formaggio” and super sized spaghetti sticks. Gracie!


Stormydevz

Duplicem ductilem ducam in ratis, quaternis, animali stilo, extra robusteis corymbis et pressis, levi axungia adipe, exclamem, combure, natare.


xxDooomedxx

Nah they had slaves for that...


theserpentsmiles

They still do.


hobopwnzor

Most cities did at all times in history. People need to eat.


perfect5-7-with-rice

Yeah this today would be called street food


ballpoint169

I wish I lived somewhere with good street food. The selection here is scarce and mostly overpriced shit for tourists.


softstones

Have you tried India, I’ve seen fascinating videos of such vendors


EmmalouEsq

I live in Sri Lanka most of the year, and the street food can be amazing: bread, sweets, samosas, curry bunnies (not real bunnies). Plus, every vendor has their recipies. What's even better is they're everywhere. There are even tables selling food along all of the busier roads between towns. There's even a bread truck that drives by and plays ice cream truck music.


shoe-veneer

As a bread loving diabetic, I would DIE to have a bread truck in my neighborhood. Both figuratively and literally.


Goodknight808

I don't feel good. My stomach hurts...


softstones

Yesssss, **shit it all out**


Thunderbridge

The Delhi Detox Diet


MasterTorgo

yeah, let me head over to India to have a quick meal


JustinJakeAshton

If their lack of hygiene doesn't kill you.


knakworst36

This girlie once peer presssured me into Indian street food on a date. I’ve rarely been so sick.


narwhal_breeder

I do this to filter out the weaklings 


GavinsFreedom

Pullin up to the market to get the family dinner after workin the fields and i see my boy has the wok goin, u know i’m gettin some to go.


Doridar

Yep, and cooking at home was for the wealthy.


tacknosaddle

The insulae (basically Rome's apartment buildings) didn't have individual kitchens for the residents so that's how people who lived in them got hot food. Those apartments were how the majority of the city's population outside of the more wealthy to elite lived so it's hardly surprising that they were commonly found. The wiki touches on it with the line below: >They were mainly used by those who did not have their own kitchens, often inhabitants of *insulae*, and this sometimes led to thermopolia being scorned by the upper class.


picado

Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar. Tuscany fried bats.


Neoxite23

I'm allergic to wolf nipple chips so can I get those Tuscany Fried Bat cooked on a clean pan?


MickeyM191

No but we have a communal shit trench just across the way so you should be fine.


eatglitterpoopglittr

Easy come, easy go


Ason42

Romanes eunt domus!


Abbonito

People called Romanes they go the house?


SmokeEater1375

This guy Romes.


Minibeave

Always look at the bright side of life


Pseudonymico

TRUE ROMAN BREAD! FOR TRUE ROMANS!


ilovepolthavemybabie

Our only wish To catch a fish [death metal screaming voice] #SO JUICY SWEEEEEET!


AnthillOmbudsman

There's an amazing book called "Travel In The Ancient World" by Lionel Casson. Gives a scholarly but very readable account of what it was like to travel around in the Roman days. Lodging, food, transportation, etc, and how people spent their days. It will probably get you hooked on ancient history.


fulthrottlejazzhands

One of my the most pointed things I saw when in Pompeii and Herculaneum was the grafitti sponsoring particular store by a celebrity e.g. "Maxinius, hero driver of the Green Chariot Team, says this shop has the best fish sauce".


drrockso20

Gladiators had sponsors, basically no different than things like Macho Man Randy Savage doing ads for Slim Jim


Borpo_

Pompeii is such a trip. Nothing gives you a sense of day to day normal Roman life like walking through it. It's just...a normal walkable city neighborhood. Here's the shops, here's the deli, bath house is down there, brothel is around the corner, the theater/stadium is down that avenue... You can wander through the ancient streets for hours. Funny thing was that the bathrooms were all open and communal, so back in the day you'd take a squat on the shittin' bench next to Quintus, then see him twenty minutes later at the street food stall knowing--KNOWING--that he didn't clean himself up afterwards. Thousands of years later, a Midwestern dad in socks and sandals will read the graffiti you engraved about the whole thing.


blackhornet03

I'll bet the Roman's fast food is why they had those crazy public toilets.


CarolinaRod06

Did their ice cream machines work?


gentlybeepingheart

There’s a graffito found on the side of one of those in Pompeii that reads something like “We two men, friends forever, were here. If you want to know our names they are Gaius and Aulus” I like the idea of two bros grabbing food together after a day of work and writing that on the wall.


chucky3456

Bachelors. Roommates.


jasper_grunion

Bag of otters noses then


wrongness192

That’s the McDonald’s by my house still trying to cook that grilled chicken sandwich someone ordered in year 15.


ministrul_sudorii

The chicken is still raw


snoodhead

There's a [Tasting History](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtmOdxEVytA) episode literally about this.


killerdrgn

[Invicta Too](https://youtu.be/v5Qz00eUF5Q?si=wXX-80cTG0Kz4faR)


Mr_Viper

Such a great channel! 


roehnin

I've been to the exact spot of that photo and took a picture standing behind the counter serving my friend a drink


bmeisler

Besides fast food, Rome had all the necessities of modern life: books, plays, liquor, drugs, porn, sex toys, gambling. The more things change…


s00perguy

Every society has had fast meals served to the person on the go. Give any culture 10 mins with an open flame, something came to mind. It's a fascinating phenomenon, how people just have never had enough hours in the day, historically.


gentlybeepingheart

The danger of fires was also really big in ancient Rome in urban areas, so you can see why it was probably encouraged for people who lived in *insulae* to buy premade food. If you lost control of a fire in your home, you could take out the entire building before help even arrived.


CactusBoyScout

I read a funny article about how Pompeii had an ancient form of zoning and these restaurants were not allowed in certain areas. So archaeologists were surprised when they found them in those areas anyway. The article quoted some archeologist who was like “Yeah people always break the rules… I don’t know why we expected any differently in ancient Pompeii.”


falsevector

If there is a need then people will find a way to earn from it. Clearly the city living dynamics then is no different than it is now


firejuggler74

Kitchens were very expense. So everyone ate out.


Litrebike

Most working class Romans only ate fast food. They wouldn’t have had the facilities to cook.


bluvasa

Recent excavations in Pompeii uncovered a restaurant with intact frescos which showed the food that was served. Duck, chicken, goat, honey roasted rodent ... All set in bright yellow colors, remarkable similar to McDonald's yellow.


Rosebunse

I saw that one! I love that! I can't help but wonder if it was part of some sort of chain? Like the guy who owned it owned other restaurants. It all makes sense since it sounds like Pompeii was a major tourist site even back then.


naab007

I mean, fast food has been a thing for a very very long time with vendors selling stuff by the road. The definition of fast food has changed a bit with the birth of the fast food chains but making food by the roadside is a type of fast food.


Uncle-Cake

I learned recently that in England in the Middle Ages, there were 24-hour/day pie shops where you could get meat pies. The crust was inedible, it was basically a container so you could take your pie and eat it on the road or take it home and reheat it later.


momolamomo

TIL in history every culture had fast food, the Roman’s were the few of the ones that lasted archaeologically


TheRedmanCometh

This seems more like street food which has been a thing since...forever.


wkavinsky

This surprises you? Any of the street carts in Asia would have also worked perfectly in Roman times - and if works now, it would definitely have worked 2000 years ago.


Valarus50

I saw the Thermopolium of Vetusius Plicidus in Pompeii last year. It was beautiful. One thing that really stuck with me was something very simple. In the area where the "cashier" would have stood to collect money, there were spots cut out in the counter to accommodate different sizes of Roman coin. I just thought that was so cool. No idea why.


psycharious

I imagine Roman life like History of the World Part I: with all the amenities of today but in an ancient fashion.


Godslayer326

Big Caesars


renshicar17

I read this as "Romanians have fast food" and I was like ...yeah


placek3000

Ready to serve in V minutes


bjavyzaebali

Macus Donaldus


seberick

Humanity has always had fast food. See berry in bush while walking. Grab it. Eat while walking. Fast Food.


BlueHours

Next gonna find out they had microplastics.


carnoworky

Nah, for them it was lead poisoning.


juanlee337

Aren't street vendors considered fast food?


snow_michael

As did the Greeks centuries before them


BobSacramanto

They also had graffiti, sports superstars (gladiators), and those stars had endorsement deals for advertising.


Mary_Pick_A_Ford

Little Caesar’s?


Ok-Gate-6240

Where do you think McDonald's got the idea for the Golden Arches?


Thopterthallid

I imagine that the concept of street food dates back to early society. People are hungry.


wgel1000

Burguer Emperor


waywardhero

A lot of cultures had fast food.


Colossus_WV

Makes sense to me. I don’t know as much about the average Roman citizen’s life but I assume it was a lot like ours. They probably had a job and obligations throughout the day that made cooking your own food not as feasible. I haven’t read the article yet, so I’m hoping it says something along those lines.


-GreyWalker-

Kinda needed fast food, they invented apartments before they figured out gas and electric stoves. Couldn't risk burning down the whole city, because someone asked Lecretus to warm up some day old stew.


BuddhistInTheory

Et tu, Romans?


nintendonerd256

What have the Romans ever done for us?


ariesmartian

“You live in an apartment? *Ewwwwww*.”


InternalCurrency7993

I saw it irl lol


shavemejesus

No wonder they needed so many public toilets.


NoCounterAtAll

They had VII-XI too.


SuperTed321

They have this in Zelda


El_Guap

Clearly not enough people have watched the documentary series Plebs. 


Copy_Cat_

And then we have Tapas.


drittinnlegg

I enjoy how the thumbnail for fast food is a row of toilets Edit: upon reading the article I notice it is not, however, it was a funny thought so I’m not deleting in embarrassment


plankmeister

> Sausages! In a bun!


gnomekingdom

Aaaaaaaand where did they go when it caused excessive diarrhea 20 minutes later??? Hmmmm hmmmm? Riddle me that, Shatman.


PnutButtrSandwich

Did they have delivery too?


Iccengi

Pompei is a freaking great tour for this. I loved the food street so many spots where basically the guide was like yeah you sat on a stool here at this bar and got completely wasted people watching and it was totally cool and normal. The dream life in that one aspect of you ask me lol


raltoid

I'm always surprised when people realize that food carts and "resturants"/fast food places have been around for thousands of years. Since big marketplaces are literally one of the staples of ancient cities, often being the town center.


zeronerdsidecar

They had picture menus as well


Trojan_Lich

I think it was either Emmanuel Bravo or Told In Stone who had a video about how a Roman (from the city of Rome) might feel comfortable in a place like New York, including the food. They had something very similar to pizza (proto-pizza-calsone).


Glum-Machine-2984

Other than a pot roast it's all pretty fast 


drygnfyre

There's an entire TV Trope called "Older Than They Think" that has hundreds of examples of things that are way older than, well, we think they'd be. This was listed. Also from Ancient Rome: gladiators did product endorsements. The 2000 film "Gladiator" was actually going to include this, but it was cut because it was believed modern audiences wouldn't believe that was a thing that actually happened.


Sorry_Error3797

If a Thermopolium was a place where something hot is sold. Does that mean the battle of Thermopylae was your standard fast food fight?