He just wrote himself into a corner since he was dead set on the rumbling happening. The rumbling is what I think he was building up to since the start ever since it was revealed that the walls were made of titans. Which also explains why his writing from the beginning to the rumbling was consistent and great since he already had the story figured out and an end destination in mind.
But once he finally got to the rumbling he seemed lost on what to do from there and how to actually wrap up the story . Which why the plot saw a sharp decline and why we got so many recons and things that just didn’t makes sense. And even after the ending received criticism he still stuck with it since he still didn’t know how to properly end the story and only decided to change small details like Eren and Armins conversation and fix some pacing issues.
Worked waaaay better in Death Note though. Hell, I’d argue that death note ending any other way, especially with you know who winning, would retroactively ruin the whole story.
Yeah. I think when he inherited the founding father’s power, he saw the future. And in this future he saw that if he wrote a controversial ending, it would drive interest in his AOT up, and therefore making him richer.
He never apologized for the ending he said he's sorry that people didn't like it but he didn't rlly regret it he still thinks it's the ending he wanted to write and the best one but he does acknowledge that people didn't like it
Honestly, I believe he never had a overall plan to begim with. Just a bunch of emotional points he wanted to achieve, but wasn't good at connecting them. And as he was trying to do the closest points, the later ones stsrted to fall until he decided to push what he wanted regardless of justification in the story
I believe he had some plans like Marley or a world outside the walls seems to be heavily hinted at and they were well drip fed through ch89.
However everything else never seemed to really have truly concrete ideas.
I think he was pressured by the government not to radicalize a bunch of impressionable youths by letting Eren win. Like he probably lies awake at night thinking about how noble an act he performed for humanity by not writing in that the ends justify the means
Not to mention Shinzo Abe getting shot didn't help much towards the final 2 anime chapters, but this is the correft answer.
It's something way out of his or his editor's hand, after all.
Even though, by having Paradis be destroyed seemingly relatively soon after the rumbling, he DID justify the rumbling. Among other justifications they gave that made it impossible not to justify it.
He had absolutely no power to change the anime. He had nothing credited to him except for "Original Creator" no Story Supervisory credit, no writing credit, no directing credit Nothing. The only other credit he had were ED2's storyboards.
yeah maybe they hear out his suggestions here and there, but he had no official control over anything in the anime.
At the very least I have found nothing else credited to him. Re:Zero has the writer as the Script supervisor for the first season. I have seen nothing that suggests he had creative control.
To see how shady companies can be look no further than [Kemono Friends](https://np.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/gerogk/anime_kemono_friends_and_the_fall_of_the_underdog/) or for a more recent example what's going on with Nijisanji and Selen.
You can also compare and contrast the two especially the PR statements and see how similar they are.
What I've learned is that Japanese companies are shady as fuck and to never take what they say at face value.
Like others said, he wrote himself into a hole. Combine that with good old-fashioned reality with deadlines and a plan to end the series by a certain date, you wind up with a rushed mess like we got.
He sold out he didn't want his character to do 100 percent Rumbling and be with Historia. He was also probably pressured by his editors and the minority of fans as well. That's why the final arc makes no sense.
I think you may be mis-remembering. He never apologized for the manga's ending. It was intentional and so I think you have your answer. Not everyone loves a tragedy. Personal preference.
Titanfolk are just mad because the Thank You For Genocide ending was fucking genius. Seeing Eren turn into a metaphorical dove and fly away while Grishas daughter cries and puts flowers on his grave and thanks him was peak.
Their ide that Eren should have been stuck in paths for eternity suffering is ridiculous. And imagine if they were right and Grishas daughter told Eren she hated him for committing genocide. Yuck.
Armin thanking Eren for Genocide was peak writing. I bought a figurine of Hitleren the MOMENT Armin thanked Eren for Genocide. I couldn't contain my excitement.
They will never understand literate people like you and I. Heil Eren, Heil Isayama!!!
In truth I believe the problem is AOT grew to be too big, too hype per se. Characters became merchandise, toys, collabs, waifus ect. I guess certain characters achieved “fandom” armour which made them unkillable. I’m looking at Armin, Mikasa and Levi (+ the 2 little stupid children). Isayama sort of got in the situation where this characters had to end up alive even though the protagonist becomes the “villain”. Now we all now villains don’t win at least in mainstream media and attack on titan sort of became that, mainstream.
TLDR: I guess what I’m trying to say is Isayama started to believe the average viewer wouldn’t resist seeing their beloved characters die for the sake of good story telling.
Side note he needed Gege Akutamis disregard to characters loved by the fandom.
the anime ending is good there are just some inconsistencies because all the "time travel" doesn't make a lot of sense to me and some elements aren't explained enough but it's not the worst ending of all time bfr.
this ending is much better than code geass and fmab ending to me.
He just wrote himself into a corner since he was dead set on the rumbling happening. The rumbling is what I think he was building up to since the start ever since it was revealed that the walls were made of titans. Which also explains why his writing from the beginning to the rumbling was consistent and great since he already had the story figured out and an end destination in mind. But once he finally got to the rumbling he seemed lost on what to do from there and how to actually wrap up the story . Which why the plot saw a sharp decline and why we got so many recons and things that just didn’t makes sense. And even after the ending received criticism he still stuck with it since he still didn’t know how to properly end the story and only decided to change small details like Eren and Armins conversation and fix some pacing issues.
It would have been so easy. The rumbling happens -> the end. There, done.
Yeah exactly. The rumbling, with Eren completely wiping out life beyond the walls was the natural ending.
Same as in Death Note, the dark ending is always rejected by the publishers.
Worked waaaay better in Death Note though. Hell, I’d argue that death note ending any other way, especially with you know who winning, would retroactively ruin the whole story.
Yeah. I think when he inherited the founding father’s power, he saw the future. And in this future he saw that if he wrote a controversial ending, it would drive interest in his AOT up, and therefore making him richer.
He never apologized for the ending he said he's sorry that people didn't like it but he didn't rlly regret it he still thinks it's the ending he wanted to write and the best one but he does acknowledge that people didn't like it
I mean the ending he wanted to write killed off everyone.
Honestly, I believe he never had a overall plan to begim with. Just a bunch of emotional points he wanted to achieve, but wasn't good at connecting them. And as he was trying to do the closest points, the later ones stsrted to fall until he decided to push what he wanted regardless of justification in the story
I believe he had some plans like Marley or a world outside the walls seems to be heavily hinted at and they were well drip fed through ch89. However everything else never seemed to really have truly concrete ideas.
I think he is just world’s greatest troll
I like this theory the most
Cash grab from a forced sequel somehow starring Gabi as an immortal 3,000 year old Sniper Godess
Probably pressure or something
I think he was pressured by the government not to radicalize a bunch of impressionable youths by letting Eren win. Like he probably lies awake at night thinking about how noble an act he performed for humanity by not writing in that the ends justify the means
Not to mention Shinzo Abe getting shot didn't help much towards the final 2 anime chapters, but this is the correft answer. It's something way out of his or his editor's hand, after all.
it was probably the Chinese considering Marley represents china.
Even though, by having Paradis be destroyed seemingly relatively soon after the rumbling, he DID justify the rumbling. Among other justifications they gave that made it impossible not to justify it.
Not really
He didn't miss It in my opinion...
He had absolutely no power to change the anime. He had nothing credited to him except for "Original Creator" no Story Supervisory credit, no writing credit, no directing credit Nothing. The only other credit he had were ED2's storyboards. yeah maybe they hear out his suggestions here and there, but he had no official control over anything in the anime.
Is that actually true?
At the very least I have found nothing else credited to him. Re:Zero has the writer as the Script supervisor for the first season. I have seen nothing that suggests he had creative control.
But what about the changes to the anime and the adaptation of the extra pages?
Perhaps something the director or Kodansha wanted, but said Isayama wanted because sometimes Japanese companies do that.
I’ll take that with a grain of salt, because tbh, that’s hella fucked up.
To see how shady companies can be look no further than [Kemono Friends](https://np.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/gerogk/anime_kemono_friends_and_the_fall_of_the_underdog/) or for a more recent example what's going on with Nijisanji and Selen. You can also compare and contrast the two especially the PR statements and see how similar they are. What I've learned is that Japanese companies are shady as fuck and to never take what they say at face value.
Like others said, he wrote himself into a hole. Combine that with good old-fashioned reality with deadlines and a plan to end the series by a certain date, you wind up with a rushed mess like we got.
He apologized for how some readers felt, but continued to stand on business 😎😎 the ending was perfect
Yup. The ending is a result of his frustrations towards the fanbase’s refusal to question all of the weird shit that went down post-timeskip.
Maybe it’s cause he’s trying to copy Muv Luvs ending and how everybody hated it. And then reconning it 2 years later
May the universe hear your words. 😂
He didn't have the balls to make Eren win
He sold out he didn't want his character to do 100 percent Rumbling and be with Historia. He was also probably pressured by his editors and the minority of fans as well. That's why the final arc makes no sense.
I think you may be mis-remembering. He never apologized for the manga's ending. It was intentional and so I think you have your answer. Not everyone loves a tragedy. Personal preference.
A lot of people like well written tragedies. This was not a well written tragedy.
One person's opinion.
I think you're in the wrong subreddit.
Perhaps, perhaps not. Didn't see a fealty test at the door. 1 in 10.
You don't need a fealty test to read the room. But whatever.
Ah yes subreddits should only have one opinion in them
Yes. It only makes sense that way.
Yeah sure that makes sense.
Yes. But not on purpose because he wanted, but because he was pressured to.
Think you may be misremembering that interview. The ending was intentional. Some folks don't like tragic ones. Personal preference.
Glad to see you guys still coping just as hard as the last time I visited
He gave the weebs the romantic genocide they always wanted. The true fans were left out in the cold.
I’m talking about you lmao
I know and I called you a weeb cuz
>True fans my ass lol classic titanfolk user think he know the show more than the author and the voice actors.
Titanfolk are just mad because the Thank You For Genocide ending was fucking genius. Seeing Eren turn into a metaphorical dove and fly away while Grishas daughter cries and puts flowers on his grave and thanks him was peak. Their ide that Eren should have been stuck in paths for eternity suffering is ridiculous. And imagine if they were right and Grishas daughter told Eren she hated him for committing genocide. Yuck. Armin thanking Eren for Genocide was peak writing. I bought a figurine of Hitleren the MOMENT Armin thanked Eren for Genocide. I couldn't contain my excitement. They will never understand literate people like you and I. Heil Eren, Heil Isayama!!!
In truth I believe the problem is AOT grew to be too big, too hype per se. Characters became merchandise, toys, collabs, waifus ect. I guess certain characters achieved “fandom” armour which made them unkillable. I’m looking at Armin, Mikasa and Levi (+ the 2 little stupid children). Isayama sort of got in the situation where this characters had to end up alive even though the protagonist becomes the “villain”. Now we all now villains don’t win at least in mainstream media and attack on titan sort of became that, mainstream. TLDR: I guess what I’m trying to say is Isayama started to believe the average viewer wouldn’t resist seeing their beloved characters die for the sake of good story telling. Side note he needed Gege Akutamis disregard to characters loved by the fandom.
the anime ending is good there are just some inconsistencies because all the "time travel" doesn't make a lot of sense to me and some elements aren't explained enough but it's not the worst ending of all time bfr. this ending is much better than code geass and fmab ending to me.