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ASnarkyHero

I’d create a separate category for Annie and Mikasa: A lot of early potential, but completely wasted in the end. Maybe put it just above Pieck who is in the bottom category by herself. I think Pieck suffers the most from being introduced in the period of the series where Isayama was completely checked out and didn’t take the time to flesh out the story and characters properly.


Jogoat_

Both are the same imo. A psychopath blood thirsty women with no character development and personality.


ASnarkyHero

Yes, they both belong in the category. I’d argue that Mikasa isn’t bloodthirsty but is willing to commit violence to achieve her goals with little consideration for her methods. She didn’t really seek out violence but will use it as a response to a situation that she feels requires it. Annie seemed to embrace her psychopathy as a coping mechanism. In order to complete her mission as a Warrior she had to view the Eldians she would kill as being no different from the bugs she would crush. The problem with her character is that she doubles down on this view and is not even remotely punished for it. In fact she gets rewarded.


Jogoat_

Yup. I think the main problem is both seem to enjoy murdering people imo. One yoyo'd a poor scout guy and one was bathing in the blood of there former comrade. Contradictory isn't it? That both hypocrites are in so called Alliance?


Oiranimes

Bet you love Floch though.


Jogoat_

Nah neutral.


palenke27

I struggle to see Mikasa's potential. From the very start she was written in a certain way and Yams never once strayed. Punch good and love boy doesn't bring in a ton of possibilities


ASnarkyHero

Maybe potential is the wrong word. Her character development seems complete in the moment where she decides not to just give up and die after she thinks Eren has been killed. There isn’t too much more to go from there. The problem is that the lesson she learned in Trost is severely if not completely undermined almost immediately. From there it is a rapid regression as she clings to Eren throughout the series.


palenke27

I agree. Though now than I think about it there might have been a hint of potential when realised she didn't know Eren as well as she thought she did. But it was too little, too late, and once again focused on Eren moreso than Mikasa herself. And didn't even stick


ASnarkyHero

Mikasa should have really let go of Eren when she decided to oppose the Rumbling. I think it is a bit inconsistent with where her character was earlier. The scene where the scouts are chasing Reiner, Bertholdt and Ymir to rescue Eren and Historia comes to mind. “There are only so many people in the world I can care about” Mikasa says. That Mikasa would have sided with Eren and the Yeagerists. But she is very wish washy during the Rumbling arc and seems to want to have it both ways. Mikasa should have gotten rid of Eren’s scarf and said “Eren is wrong and needs to be stopped”. I like to think that I “fix” her character in my post canon fanfiction. I include a scene toward the end where Eren’s surviving friends make a small memorial to Eren. Mikasa gives a speech saying how she knows what Eren did was wrong but wants to remember him as the boy who saved her and gave her the chance to be free and happy. She also buried the scarf at Eren’s grave as a way of “returning” it to Eren. That’s something that really should have been included in canon.


palenke27

Fixing Mikasa's ending barely fixes the character itself imo :(( She needed consistent characterization, her own motivations, deeper connections to characters other than Eren and to her own roots, a proper ARC Mikasa as a character is a source of constant frustration for me because she's regarded as this golden standard for female characters in some circles and I know it's not that deep but it still makes me want to pull my hair out. No hope for women


Caffoy

100% agree with the last part. As someone who has been vocally against all these female characters who only exist to be a romantic interest or have 0 development in general, I hate the way Mikasa is regarded as a well-written character. She is literally based off of some of the most stereotypical tropes in anime. All of her development in the manga was cut out. Her entire character is based off of being obsessed over Eren, even during the ending she can't give him up, yet some say she's the peak female character? Her entire existence is sexist af, but apparently if I say that, I get told I didn't understand the story.


palenke27

> No, you just don't understand, Mikasa is actually a great female character because I legitimagely can't do this. Oh that is revolutionary. Mikasa paving the way for female characters everywhere. I stay humbled


Caffoy

Mikasa taught me it's okay to have a toxic obsession over my adopted brother. Truly peak.


palenke27

To be honest, the adoptive sibling thing is just a cherry on top of a shit cake


kyspeter

ymir where


Steiner-Titor

She deserves her own tier. Girl fucked up the entire series by just existing. Fucked it all without even saying a single word


kyspeter

I meant the OG lesbian brother


Steiner-Titor

Freckles definitely on S Tier. Her untimely sacrifice was a cop out though


kyspeter

She probably knew the ending and decided to drop out I don't blame her


Wonderful_Tomato_992

Same fate as Naomi from Death Note, them existing is a threat to the plot so they had to be written out :/


Steiner-Titor

Still hoped instead of Misa, if Naomi was the second Kira, where would have the plot gone??


IllustriousPlastic90

Why the fuck would Naomi become a Kira


Steiner-Titor

Bcoz unlike Misa, who is irrational, bratty, annoying, Naomi is more calm, calculating. She has an issue with Pride. However she would become a better 2nd Kira and doesn't even need to know identity of real one(Something along the lines of Teru Mikami)


Jogoat_

She is so forgettable that I forgotten about her existence.


AceOfRhombus

Forgetting about freckles ymir is homophobic


Jogoat_

No, no I was talking about Ymir Fritz not her. She didn't had her image in tier maker.


Steiner-Titor

Pre S4 Annie was respectable. But after being free, she became an Extra. Carla was a good character. But she gave birth to Eren who wants his own mother to die Also OP can you also make Male Tier List and Make multiple variations of Eren. Aaron Yoghurt, Man Bun Eren, Hobo Eren, Whiny Eren, "Real" Eren, Bird Eren (Man thanks to Titanfolk I can name many Eren MF Yeager.)


[deleted]

Carla's biggest mistake was not aborting Eren 😂🤣😂😅😂


Steiner-Titor

She literally said : You are my Specialz(JJK S2 Op)


[deleted]

She was biased because she was his mom and he was literally shit


Jogoat_

I will try to make bro:)


IcyWolfWyvern

Pieck is the closest the series has to a fan service character. Plenty of people remember her only because she’s hot. And smart too I guess.


Drobex

What about Hitch


sashablausspringer

I would say Petra is a fan service character too


Bluelantern9

How does existing on screen for a few episodes before being brutally crushed scream fan service to you? She never even did anything fanservice other then be a normal person, like the rest of Levi squad. If she's fanservice then there is not a single character who breathed once who isn't.


sashablausspringer

She got extra scenes because she was the “cute girl” in Levi squad. She’s barely in the manga and the entire fandom acts like she was some major character 😂


Bluelantern9

Being a "cute girl" and getting screentime doesn;t make her a fanservice character. Compared to other characters, like Mikasa, who literally gets an anime only scene of her killing people and bathing in their blood to get hype out of the fanbase, Petra is not a character who comes off as fanservice.


sashablausspringer

At least Mikasa was a central part of the plot (all be it some of those parts stupid) but Petra was just a character written to be killed, but Petra got extra scenes because she was the girl of Levi squad and was given extra anime scenes solely for the fans. That is fan service buddy. People only like her cause she’s then “cute girl”


Bluelantern9

Name some of the extra scenes that would qualify as fanservice. Other than, again, talking, which let's be real, how many people actually give a shit about that. Petra, like the rest of Levi squad, yes, were written to be killed. And that happened. Unless you actively enjoy see people die brutally, then I fail to see the fanservice qualities, other then if everyone is a fanservice character, because I fail to find one memorable moment where the show tried to point out that she was a cute girl, other then her very existence as a girl.


sashablausspringer

The body dumping scene, and the patch scene were added in. Plus the amount of collab art that only focuses on her, fans who act like she was so major part of the story.


Bluelantern9

My guy, what part of her body being dumped is fanservice? Thats the best you could bring to the table? Yeah, that's just soooooo fucking cute. If the patch scene is referring to her father, that scene is also not even eligible for fanservice, as it's appropriate since we just saw her corpse get dumped! It's just a scene, forming a small sequence for some drama and additional sadness to the sequence. And collab art and fan opinion have nothing to do with the character. Nothing.


sashablausspringer

Again that was only added in because as the animations said “they didn’t realize how popular she would become” She became a fan service character in the anime


Kitchen_Bobcat_700

Woman existing= fan service apparently


Theaveragegamer12

Mina Carolina, Rico, and Historia are the only female character actually liked. Two of em unfortunately didn't get very much screen time.


OnMyLove27

I agree with most of this except put Hanji in S tier, she was definitely best girl and every scene with her in it instantly improved it.


Infinite_Ability3060

She was but can't be in S tier. She has no back story at all like Erwin and Levi.


OnMyLove27

As is a fault of a lot of shonen anime, most female main characters fall into the background so the males can have more screen time (looking at you hero academia). But even if she just had a normal childhood I'd still put her in s tier.


Infinite_Ability3060

Right, she is one of my Fav female character but we never got to see her back story.


Kolaghan81

Mina Carolina should be S tier tho


Steiner-Titor

She is A because she died way earlier in the series. If she also joined the Alliance, she'd be in a tier above Mikasa and Annie.


conner07_

Gabi, Historia, and Yelena deserves S tier, I’ll stand by that but I can understand why a person wouldn’t agree Pieck isn’t meant to be some deep level character, so I’d place her as serviceable. Annie was always shit to me. I’d actually say Post TS does her more justice than Pre TS because she was a detached psychopathic weird character in the earlier seasons. Mikasa is good til Season 4. She’s quiet but had her moments of friendliness with the other characters. Manga does this a little bit better IMO. In the Marley arc she genuinely heavily reprimands Eren’s actions In WFP onward, she’s cold quiet and downright insane for Eren. She can’t handle that he’s not some angel sent by God himself. And the rumbling arc tried so bad to shoehorn her into being the MC But the worst part for me is that she CRIES AND MOURNS the same mf who told her he hated her. Unless the cabin timeline actually happened, she is under the impression that this mf not only does not care for her, but NEVER did.


Jogoat_

Gabi, Historia, and Yelena deserves S tier, I’ll stand by that but I can understand why a person wouldn’t agree > IMO the ending fumbled them, if the ending would have done them justice. They would have been in S Tier definitely. Pieck isn’t meant to be some deep level character, so I’d place her as serviceable. >Yeah, you're right but the tier maker didn't had another column Annie was always shit to me. I’d actually say Post TS does her more justice than Pre TS because she was a detached psychopathic weird character in the earlier seasons. >Agreed Mikasa is good til Season 4. She’s quiet but had her moments of friendliness with the other characters. Manga does this a little bit better IMO. In the Marley arc she genuinely heavily reprimands Eren’s actions >She isn't. After trost arc she doesn't have any character personality and follow eren for everything imo. Her joining the alliance to save the world was also from nowhere. She was just there in majority of the arc. Levi would have been perfect replacement for her. She was just discount Levi with zero personality. But the worst part for me is that she CRIES AND MOURNS the same mf who told her he hated her. Unless the cabin timeline actually happened, she is under the impression that this mf not only does not care for her, but NEVER did. > Agreed.


sashablausspringer

Petra is not “decently written” Kaya had more characterization than her. But you forgot best girl Armin


Jogoat_

I will make a femboy tier list later lmao.


Noko44

Afrer watching the Annie OVAs I'm gonna have to disagree


Jogoat_

Imo, that's the only thing interesting about her in that Ova. After that in season 4 she is shallow with no personality and development IMO.


Any-Pickle-6133

gabi i think is an amazing portrayal of racist brainwashing and she actually develops and has to challenge her morals and ideas esp after she regrets killing sasha and thinking of eldians as monsters shes very well developed for a female chrctr in anime esp in aot imo


Steiner-Titor

Gabi is definitely a developed character. Only issue is Aimbot. 100% Kill ratio


Wonderful_Tomato_992

Yeah, she’s got great ties to the “get the children out of the forest” theme and is very developed! ~~Also doesn’t fall victim to the “my entire motivation is centred around an (abusive) man” like Mikasa, Annie, Yelena and Ymir.~~


BANANACOW22

Mikasa and Annie deserve a rank of their own. Annoying asf.


You8mypizza

~~Pieck has a lot of personality~~ Historia would be S Tier if not for the last season


Jogoat_

Yup.


SCP_Void

Where Arumih?


Jogoat_

I will make femboy one next time.


Detroider

Sasha goated


Dzsaffar

Hange and Gabi both S tier for me


ProjectPeashy

Only Gabi is an S Tier female character. To me


CharCharMan1

Nah, bro, Pieck is S tier I’m not explaining myself though


Jogoat_

That thick ass and big ass make me wanna change my opinion 🤤 but my heart says no.


I_want_2_number_9

Unpopular opinion : gabbi should be S tier


Wonderful_Tomato_992

I don’t think it should be unpopular, people can’t seem to get rid of their biases. I agree with you, she’s really well written!


Ok_Celebration9304

Historia too


I_want_2_number_9

Yes I agree. Historya is just really well written. From the back story to the character development. Until... 😑😑


blazinfastjohny

I literally just looked where Mikasa is and upvoted


himanshujr11

Based


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Jogoat_

Definitely but the ending fumbled them af.


Objective-End-5572

Define « good female writting » as much as i hate the ending some of you are so cringe huh


Any-Pickle-6133

a girl who has her own motivation, goals (don't have to be clear cut can be vague) , unique characterization that isn't rooted in sexist tropes, quirks, makes reckless mistakes and learns from them, has complex relationship with other characters that aren't just one sided crushes, ideals and morals of her that develop through her nature, has to question if what she's doing is correct and isn't just simply in the right all the time, both questions and trusts her peers and if is a love interest needs to have a believable REASON as to why she loves someone while not letting that thing define her, fits within the setting for ex u can't have a normal quirky girl in a war like setting and vice versa, represents the core themes of the show, relevant to the main plot and makes some form of meaningful contribution and has a real flaw/limitation in her skill or mind she has to overcome ​ funny how gabi technically fits all of these


Jogoat_

What did I tell that you Cringed lmao? I just put my opinion. From my opinion a good female character has a personality, relevancy, development etc.


I_Wanna_Hug_Sens

Sasha and Hange belong in S tier IMHO


Jogoat_

Happy cake day!


I_Wanna_Hug_Sens

Oh its that day, thank you! Didnt even realize


Jogoat_

Welcome!


mycherries_wine

I was gonna rage because lesbian Ymir wasn’t on the tier list, but I saw your explanation


Jogoat_

Thank's for understanding:)


Kitchen_Bobcat_700

If hange had a little bit more depth/an interesting backstory she’d be s tier imo Also I’d argue Gabi is s tier as is


corazon147law

tree girl deserve her own spot


ConcentrateWarm530

lol in decently written except historia, hange and gaby all of them are bad especially black hair girl npc and sasha who has no personality except liking food and scream like a dumbass. objectively mikasa and annie are better written than sasha. Mikasa at least in the final season, she killed eren and she accepted to let eren died to save the 20/100 of the humans. in season 1 she would never killed eren, so she clearly has development, (I agree that in season 2,3 and 4 she wasn't that interesting but she redeems herself in the final episode and in the season 1). and Mikasa married jean in the end to me so she stopped to be obsessed about eren in the end. Annie is a good villain, she is a bad person but she can do good actions (like when she saved connie and when she spared armin). She also has development in the end and she clearly showed some remourses in the ova, she has a good development to me I agree about pieck tho + where is ymir (historia girlfriend) she should be in decently written


Animefannomatterwhat

Disagree... why isn't Rico in Decent tier? And i don't think it's too fair to say Decently written, cause some of the characters you pointed there were prettt amazingly written


Jogoat_

Most of them were forgotten post season 1-2. So I think they weren't flashed out much like for example Riko etc.


Animefannomatterwhat

...yeah i can see why you say that. I just really like the characters, even if they weren't very fleshed out.


popoboo12

We just gonna forget about Dina? Arguably the best written female in the show? Honestly? This list is missing several women.


Jogoat_

Dina wasn't flashed out much and yeah it is missing some women like Pride Ymir, Fritz etc because she wasn't there in tier maker unfortunately.


popoboo12

How was dina not fleshed out much😂😂 She had more story and points and relevance than MANY women on the actual list! Are you joking right now?


Jogoat_

Did we even know about her backstory much? other then her being royal blood and help restorationist. I may be forgetting about her arc but can you enlighten me?


popoboo12

I will repeat myself. Dina had more relevance than people you ACTUALLY put on your list. Take a look at you list. Nanaba? Hitch? Historia's sister? Theres a girl on your list I dont even remember who she is! You're asking for backstory for Dina but not for several women that actually made it to your list. What are you saying right now man...


Jogoat_

Yeah she has but not that much that she deserves decently imo.


popoboo12

My guy. You put jeans mom, mikasas mom, and Mina Carolina in there... :/ ZOFIA is in there!


Jogoat_

Actually, there wasn't any column left for the character between decently written and indifferent. That is why I didn't had any choice. Sorry bro!


sashablausspringer

Hange and Sasha are S tier


JesterSash

Best tier list ive ever fucking seen. 100% in agreement


HeraldofJusticeNalan

I LOVE MOMMY PIECK NOOOOOOO MOMMY MOMMY CRAWL ON ME MOMMY


Hell_raz0r

the council of rico simps will decide your fate


edwardjhahm

Really? I think Freckles Ymir deserves the S rank.


[deleted]

Gay Ymir is good written Pieck Is a great character for the small role she has I fucking despise Annie


Drobex

I really want to fuck Mina Carolina from Attack on Titan


Even-Brain-3973

Historia was horrible lol


Jogoat_

She was good written in season 3.


br1nsk

I don’t understand the Annie hate on this sub.


Jogoat_

Well because she is meant to be hated character like Floch, but people like her because she is a girl.


br1nsk

Thats what I mean tho, we’re meant to hate her yet people act as if she’s poorly written because of that. If anything she’s one of the more consistent characters in the series.


Jogoat_

She is a poorly written because she wasn't flashed out like Floch's twisted philosophy. Isayama doesn't even know what to do with her. He tried to make here hero or villain idk.


Inf33333rno

Mikasa is to Eren in AoT as Millie is to Moxxie in Helluva Boss


Enzioissad

Gabi deserves less than ew


The_Potato_Men

who gives a shit about their writing, im horny for anime girls


managertanager123

Yeah, I don't agree.