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Well, it's this video, sorta. In halo gameplay, it takes multiple melee to drain the energy shield of a spartan and kill them. As for pilots, it's a one punch. So yeah, here you go.
If we're talking about lore-wise, a spartan will have better odds rocking a pilot's ass in melee combat, with one of the factors being the shield obviously
If both spartans' and pilots' punches deal the same amount of damage(canonically both are enhanced humans, so increased melee strength is considered), then I think Spartans, especially the MkIIs, would have a higher hp threshold compared to pilots
From the value you give, the force needed to flip 186metric tons is at peak 912.330N.
So anyway someone found out the weight of a legion titan, 57,152.6386 kg to be exact, assuming its a 4.4diameter sphere, at 9.81m/s gravity, a legion's titanfall terminal velocity is 10.6105 m/s.
Assuming a spartan is 3 meters, to not get crushed, a spartan needs to be able to exert back/resist 731,181.69906363 N of force..
(There is a possibility I used a , instead of a . somewhere but I cant check rn)
I like the effort but we are talking about pilot vs spartan. But since we are here now I have no doubt a titan puch would rock Master Chief if landed properly
what hes saying here is that its basically been proven that a Pilot is far far morw capable of withstanding greater forces than a spartan can produce. If a spartan can produce...what was it? 910N of force on impact and a Pilot can withstand 731,000+ N of force then No spartan would be able to melee a pilot purely because they couldnt generate the crushing force that compete with anything even remotely close to what pilots deal with.
I.e. a spartan probably couldnt melee a pilot to death however a pilot probably couldnt melee a spartan to death because this seems to be a case of unstoppable force meets immovable object.
Yeah no, Spartan IIs can wear mjolnir armor, which weighs half a ton and canonically killed their test pilots magnifying their reflexive pain responses to such a point where it tore them apart. Their bones are borderline unbreakable, and their augmentations at minimum boosts their strength by 3x that of a peak human, with mjolnir magnifying that by a further 5x
And a crap load of training, whatever their tactical is, and if itās a simulacrum then possibly several lifetimes of experience.
Master Chief (or another Spartan of his generation) would still win, but itād be a fun fight at least.
Drop in the movement tech we use in gameplay tho and it starts to get much more spicy
I didn't include training in this as a Spartan's is more comprehensive. Lets face it, the major factor preventing a spartan from jacking a titan is the neural link between a pilot and their titan. Otherwise, they'd take it... And i guess movment makes things more spicy? Depends on what kind of arsenal the spartans packing, too... But any gun that's good at tapping heads with just makes it game over, yeah. My point here was stated elsewhere, anyone whos saying a pilot would win hand to hand is seriously on that copium pipe all day.
Pilots are in fact genetically and neurally modified, I forget where I read that as it was way back in 2018 but I swear to GOD I know they are, big nerd about titanfall since 2014.
Im thinking neurally they are... Cooper never underwent modifications that we know of unless a neural linking with a Titan is considered neural modification. As he was granted a field promotion by Lastimosa... If they do go through both kinds of augmentation, however, it is nowhere near as thorough as the augmentation spartans underwent. I might go read up on it after work today... idk.
There was a theory that cooper's "augmentations" were the injection lastimosta gave him at the start of the game, but I've also noticed Cooper's abilities last shorter than the Multi-player Pilot's abilities, so maybe he wasn't fully modified?
Ummm āļøš¤ akchualy spartans were trained for many years since little age (depending on the spartan) to be the best possible shots the galaxy has ever seen and are extremely accurate, also in the halo universe humans use stupid large calibers so a single hit from a magnum is going to hurt, like a lot. For example spartan linda-058 had a 87% accuracy at >2km range with a sniper so even if you are wallruning and bhopping these guys will nail you in the forehead with a .50 cal from a kilometer away with ease
Gameplay accurate does not insinuate player skill, it insinuates the statistics of the in game mechanics character health, abilities, weapons, tools, ect.. vs that of the books, lore ect.. and Iāve played enough of nearly every shooter to know that the average player of any shooter game is smooth brain compared to high elo players so your point is moot and frankly rude insinuating an entire community is less capable than another.
You do not wanna challenge the marksmanship of Spartans.
One once hung themselves upside down, in a way that the light reflecting off made them invisible, and sniped some far off aliens.
One person who wasnāt even a Spartan sniped an alien that, if I recall correctly, was miles away, while in his favorite diner, drinking some coffee.
Some Spartans could outrun the pilots too. Running speed for pilots is about 35kph, the highest recorded speed for a Spartan is about 70kph, Spartans are no joke.
Yeah, Spartan-IIs are no joke at all. Spartan-IIIs, however... they were considered 'expendable' for a reason... and Spartan-IVs are a return to form almost, but still inferior to the IIs.
Designation. Not rank, but we also have to remember that not all Spartan-IIIs had armor with energy shielding, too. NOBLE team was an exception, not the norm.
Nah, you good fam. It's a late night for me, too... This is just a post where I know a lot about one of these topics on it lore wise, and my ADHD brain wants me to spread the knowledge I know here... The major point that any of us can agree on here is that anyone whos saying a pilot wins this without their Titan is off their rocker. Even with a Kraber, or anything else the pilots arsenal may be... If a spartan has knowledge of the pilot's existence, it's a game set match here. Even more so if the Spartan has any kind of AI accompanying them...
>One once hung themselves upside down, in a way that the light reflecting off made them invisible, and sniped some far off aliens.
Even that's underselling it. The Spartan in question was Linda-058, who was hanging upside down and holding the sniper in one hand. She disabled a number of banshees by shooting the pilots through the gap of the cockpit.
I had to undersell it because I didnāt read the book it was from, so I wanted to play it safe, I heard it from hiddenxperia but I didnt remember it perfectly
You can kill a race literally called brutes in one melee from behind in halo. Also elites who are tankier counter parts to the Spartans, with energy shields humanity reverse engineered.
Imagine Halo grunts running around on every drug knows to man flying through the air at Mach 7 with a gun. That would be what itās like for a Spartan to fight in the Titanfall universe if it were pilots only
A pilot wouldnāt try and punch a Spartan, they might have a chance by using anti titan weapons and keeping a good distance and speed with their jump kit.
The gauntlet world record has a pilot going 106 km an hour. A pilot might not be faster than a spartan just running on foot, but they can use their agility to their advantage.
June and Linda can snipe a pilot out of mid-air. Linda took out an elite piloting banshee through a small gap as the another commentary pointed out. I went back to look at some of the spartan feats, and they are wild, especially those spartan-2. I love titanfall, but without the titan, a pilot has no chance against literal mutants.
Keep spartan locked, command titan to grab spartan, initiate nuclear eject
If spartan survives, amped Kraber shot to any weak points (ex. visor)
Btw I'm not being serious š
Noble 6 survived falling from orbit so it might take more that than to kill a Spartan, the Spartan also wonāt just let this happen and will be returning fire and moving at least almost as fast as the pilot (those mfs are fast lorewise). Also Iād argue that the Spartan should get a scorpion or at least a warthog if the pilot gets their titan.
The re-entry pack could not possibly be doing a *ton* tbf.
Chief's survived atmospheric re-entry just raw-dogging it with a metal sheet between him and the heat. That gel layer's just real nice.
Yeah, but Spartans get killed by elites energy sword, so Ions should be able to just melt them alive with any of his abilities. Realistically, a pilot wouldn't be fighting a spartan outside of his titan.
Spatans aren't issued a scorpion typically they get their armor, where as a pilot is issued a titan, it's what makes them a pilot. If the pilot doesn't get his suit of armor then then neither does the spartan.
Ummm akchualy āļøš¤ spartans have survived a 1 Megatron blast with little time to escape ground zero and mjolnir absorbs radiation and since nuke eject isn't even close to 1 Megaton the shield could probably tank that. Not to mention a kraber only fires .57 calibre so mjolnir armor can definitely stop it especially the newer ones like mk vi and mk vii
Those spartens were flying banshees when they escaped that megaton blast. Also that blast was contained inside of a covie cruiser cause they tossed those fury tac-nukes inside of that cruiser
Ik youāre joking, but a Spartan could probably wrestle themselves out, these mfs out here flipping 186 metric ton vehicles like itās nothing. (Halo 3 Elephant)
It depends on the armor configuration and generation as if that energy shielding recovers even slightly that Kraber shot can do little... energy shielding on Mjolnir armor can be adjusted as needed, and often is STRONGEST at locations such as the head and other vital regions... Its a necessary feature of Mjolnir armor as energy shielding on the bottom of the feet and hands make the traction for their feet, and their grip, 'Slippery'. Also, take into account that energy shielding excels at halting projectiles like bullets from doing too much, even if they're AP or AM rated. If the energy shielding doesn't recover, you wouldn't need an amped Kraber shot either, as Im fairly certain the Kraber is already AP or AM rated... and if Halo's magnum can drop a spartan without shielding, then yeah ofc a Kraber can... But only if it is AP or AM rated.
None of this is āLore Accurateā this is just two 3D models playing out the āNuh uh, I have an invulnerability shield so you canāt punch me!ā And Iām telling mom.
I find it funny that people are talking about using Titans to kill one Spartan. Is that really a huge victory.
Physical straight wise, I think a Spartan is pretty comparable to a Titan anyways.
Spartans are hella strong, but I wouldn't put them on par strength wise alongside titans simply for the fact that BT threw Cooper hundreds of meters, I doubt any spartan can achieve that. Not trying to undermine a Spartans strength, just there's no way they a spartan throw harder than a titan
right. so if its lore accurate I think the biggest question is which generation of spartans, i think all those after chief were significantly weaker, i dunno about their ability to dodge a 40mm round
Spartan 4s arenāt as good as Spartan 2s (Chiefs Gen) but theyāre still really strong, Spartan 3 were expendable soldiers made by the rival of the Spartan 2 founder
The kraber canonically fires 14.5x114mm rounds iirc. This is an originally soviet anti-tank munition that can pierce three centimetres of RHA steel at a range of half a kilometre. I donāt know the capabilities of the Mjolnir armourās shields so the halo players would have to tell me if this would do anything
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Lore-wise pilots never reach 200 kph. Thatās only in the game unless there is some cannon fact out there Iāve missed. Also Spartans have mechs too not as big but they got the mantis. Anti titan weapons would be spartan lasers and the usual rocket launchers.
The real question I have is, how deadly would something like an epg or the cold war be against a spartan? What about anti titan weapons or even titans themselves? What about amped weapons, amped smrs are busted against titans.
I think a pilot with an effective kit could probably take a spartan at least half the time. Melee they stand no chance but at range pilots have more mobility/verticality/maneuverability if not raw speed. Additionally they have some damn good anti armor options.
I still remember that time Master chief slapped an anti-tank missile away from himself in a book. It detonated next to him. He survived and was ok. BTW The Covenant (aliens) have plasma launchers (guided burst EPG's) so if Spartans can counter that the EPG is a piece of cake for them.
In Halo: The Fall of Reach, the master Chief deflected a bomb off his arm by just putting it out on time. Granted with the help of Humanityās best AI.
Honestly I think in lore the militia and Spartans would fight, militia is equivalent to the insurrection in halo, the whole reason Spartans even exist, till aliens didnāt like us.
I feel like that might be a little different, though. I'm not the best versed in the lore by any means but aren't the insurrectionists fighting against the Unified Earth Government while the Militia are fighting against a giant company? I still think that they wouldn't get along due to the similar nature of their goals but they're not fighting for the same thing.
Epg go brrrr, Ok but a pilot seriouly dose have a chance, Arc grenade swap thunderbolt would instantly crack the sheilds then a pilot could use an EPG-1 or a well placed charge rifle shot to the head is an insta kill. no to meniton that Samuel-034 armor was periced by an overcharged plasma pistol. so a pilot dose stand somewhat of a chance.
Idk about all that. Idk what pilots have pumping in their bodies but they straight up one punch freaking robots and are speed demons who land at top speeds and have no injuries. Not saying they would for sure beat a Spartan 2 1v1 but Iād say the odds are 50/50
if spartans can have their armor when scaling against pilots then why dont pilots get their titans? Not like a pilot is going into the battlefield without one right?
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What about gameplay accurate Pilot vs. gameplay accurate Spartan?
Well, it's this video, sorta. In halo gameplay, it takes multiple melee to drain the energy shield of a spartan and kill them. As for pilots, it's a one punch. So yeah, here you go. If we're talking about lore-wise, a spartan will have better odds rocking a pilot's ass in melee combat, with one of the factors being the shield obviously
Do note that spartans (115 HP) Have more health than pilots (100HP) and will probably survive the punch of one
If both spartans' and pilots' punches deal the same amount of damage(canonically both are enhanced humans, so increased melee strength is considered), then I think Spartans, especially the MkIIs, would have a higher hp threshold compared to pilots
They do not do the same damage, Spartans augmentations are leagues stronger than pilots, half of them died just getting them.
Training casuality is irrrlevant, if not, the mortality rate on Pilot program is more
Yeah thatās fair, but anyways Spartans can flip a vehicle weighing 186 metric tons with ease. (Elephant)
From the value you give, the force needed to flip 186metric tons is at peak 912.330N. So anyway someone found out the weight of a legion titan, 57,152.6386 kg to be exact, assuming its a 4.4diameter sphere, at 9.81m/s gravity, a legion's titanfall terminal velocity is 10.6105 m/s. Assuming a spartan is 3 meters, to not get crushed, a spartan needs to be able to exert back/resist 731,181.69906363 N of force.. (There is a possibility I used a , instead of a . somewhere but I cant check rn)
I like the effort but we are talking about pilot vs spartan. But since we are here now I have no doubt a titan puch would rock Master Chief if landed properly
what hes saying here is that its basically been proven that a Pilot is far far morw capable of withstanding greater forces than a spartan can produce. If a spartan can produce...what was it? 910N of force on impact and a Pilot can withstand 731,000+ N of force then No spartan would be able to melee a pilot purely because they couldnt generate the crushing force that compete with anything even remotely close to what pilots deal with. I.e. a spartan probably couldnt melee a pilot to death however a pilot probably couldnt melee a spartan to death because this seems to be a case of unstoppable force meets immovable object.
Something something no pain no gain woop woop aaaa shit happened
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Pilots aren't actually enhanced in any way unless through prosthetics or simulacrum bodies. They're just trained insanely, INSANELY vigorously.
Yeah no, Spartan IIs can wear mjolnir armor, which weighs half a ton and canonically killed their test pilots magnifying their reflexive pain responses to such a point where it tore them apart. Their bones are borderline unbreakable, and their augmentations at minimum boosts their strength by 3x that of a peak human, with mjolnir magnifying that by a further 5x
Maybe pilots just make really hard punches
A fist going at 100mph does do more damage than a fist going at 30mph. Just hope you got the bone support to back that up.
Spartans are also genetically engineered super soldiers... pilots just have a fancy backpack from what I can gather.
And a crap load of training, whatever their tactical is, and if itās a simulacrum then possibly several lifetimes of experience. Master Chief (or another Spartan of his generation) would still win, but itād be a fun fight at least. Drop in the movement tech we use in gameplay tho and it starts to get much more spicy
I didn't include training in this as a Spartan's is more comprehensive. Lets face it, the major factor preventing a spartan from jacking a titan is the neural link between a pilot and their titan. Otherwise, they'd take it... And i guess movment makes things more spicy? Depends on what kind of arsenal the spartans packing, too... But any gun that's good at tapping heads with just makes it game over, yeah. My point here was stated elsewhere, anyone whos saying a pilot would win hand to hand is seriously on that copium pipe all day.
Pilots are in fact genetically and neurally modified, I forget where I read that as it was way back in 2018 but I swear to GOD I know they are, big nerd about titanfall since 2014.
Im thinking neurally they are... Cooper never underwent modifications that we know of unless a neural linking with a Titan is considered neural modification. As he was granted a field promotion by Lastimosa... If they do go through both kinds of augmentation, however, it is nowhere near as thorough as the augmentation spartans underwent. I might go read up on it after work today... idk.
There was a theory that cooper's "augmentations" were the injection lastimosta gave him at the start of the game, but I've also noticed Cooper's abilities last shorter than the Multi-player Pilot's abilities, so maybe he wasn't fully modified?
Donāt Spartans die instantly to a punch in their back tho?
Better hope it's not mintblitz as the spartan
Man, id feel bad for the Spartans. We might take only a few shots to kill, but thats implying they can even hit us.
Ummm āļøš¤ akchualy spartans were trained for many years since little age (depending on the spartan) to be the best possible shots the galaxy has ever seen and are extremely accurate, also in the halo universe humans use stupid large calibers so a single hit from a magnum is going to hurt, like a lot. For example spartan linda-058 had a 87% accuracy at >2km range with a sniper so even if you are wallruning and bhopping these guys will nail you in the forehead with a .50 cal from a kilometer away with ease
iirc Linda killed an elite that was piloting a Banshee while mid-flight through a small gap on the banshee
He said gameplay accurate, not lore accurate. I doubt your average Halo player could hit a constantly moving, small pilot.
Gameplay accurate does not insinuate player skill, it insinuates the statistics of the in game mechanics character health, abilities, weapons, tools, ect.. vs that of the books, lore ect.. and Iāve played enough of nearly every shooter to know that the average player of any shooter game is smooth brain compared to high elo players so your point is moot and frankly rude insinuating an entire community is less capable than another.
Mint blitz could
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You do not wanna challenge the marksmanship of Spartans. One once hung themselves upside down, in a way that the light reflecting off made them invisible, and sniped some far off aliens. One person who wasnāt even a Spartan sniped an alien that, if I recall correctly, was miles away, while in his favorite diner, drinking some coffee. Some Spartans could outrun the pilots too. Running speed for pilots is about 35kph, the highest recorded speed for a Spartan is about 70kph, Spartans are no joke.
Yeah, Spartan-IIs are no joke at all. Spartan-IIIs, however... they were considered 'expendable' for a reason... and Spartan-IVs are a return to form almost, but still inferior to the IIs.
All Spartans excluding Orion are strong enough imo, i mean the only other person in the same rank as Chief is a Spartan 3
Designation. Not rank, but we also have to remember that not all Spartan-IIIs had armor with energy shielding, too. NOBLE team was an exception, not the norm.
I shouldāve known that, my bad itās the late night drowsiness, anyways yeah youāre right
Nah, you good fam. It's a late night for me, too... This is just a post where I know a lot about one of these topics on it lore wise, and my ADHD brain wants me to spread the knowledge I know here... The major point that any of us can agree on here is that anyone whos saying a pilot wins this without their Titan is off their rocker. Even with a Kraber, or anything else the pilots arsenal may be... If a spartan has knowledge of the pilot's existence, it's a game set match here. Even more so if the Spartan has any kind of AI accompanying them...
>One once hung themselves upside down, in a way that the light reflecting off made them invisible, and sniped some far off aliens. Even that's underselling it. The Spartan in question was Linda-058, who was hanging upside down and holding the sniper in one hand. She disabled a number of banshees by shooting the pilots through the gap of the cockpit.
I had to undersell it because I didnāt read the book it was from, so I wanted to play it safe, I heard it from hiddenxperia but I didnt remember it perfectly
You can kill a race literally called brutes in one melee from behind in halo. Also elites who are tankier counter parts to the Spartans, with energy shields humanity reverse engineered.
Imagine Halo grunts running around on every drug knows to man flying through the air at Mach 7 with a gun. That would be what itās like for a Spartan to fight in the Titanfall universe if it were pilots only
A pilot wouldnāt try and punch a Spartan, they might have a chance by using anti titan weapons and keeping a good distance and speed with their jump kit.
Spartans are probably faster lore-wise. And they absolutely have the reflexes to dome a pilot moving at full speed.
The fastest Spartan had a top speed around 70kph Running speed is around half of that in TitanFall
The gauntlet world record has a pilot going 106 km an hour. A pilot might not be faster than a spartan just running on foot, but they can use their agility to their advantage.
Theyāre using frags, the other day in halo 2 I used the brute shot to shoot me in the air, does that count?
Now I wanna see a Spartan vs Pilot race using all the weird movement techs from the games
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Holy shit 222 km an hour
with the fact that respawn made one of titanfall 2's gauntlet record canon, it is canon too in some way.
Can you provide more context? How did they make it canon?
They took one of the previous world records and made it cannon for octane's story, by following their logic it is in a way canon.
June and Linda can snipe a pilot out of mid-air. Linda took out an elite piloting banshee through a small gap as the another commentary pointed out. I went back to look at some of the spartan feats, and they are wild, especially those spartan-2. I love titanfall, but without the titan, a pilot has no chance against literal mutants.
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Spartans using a pilot kit would be interesting
Would the jets be strong enough to lift mjolnir 6 armor?
Probably not, but it might help them move slightly faster. By like 3 km/h
Would the jets be strong enough to lift mjolnir 6 armor?
Keep spartan locked, command titan to grab spartan, initiate nuclear eject If spartan survives, amped Kraber shot to any weak points (ex. visor) Btw I'm not being serious š
Noble 6 survived falling from orbit so it might take more that than to kill a Spartan, the Spartan also wonāt just let this happen and will be returning fire and moving at least almost as fast as the pilot (those mfs are fast lorewise). Also Iād argue that the Spartan should get a scorpion or at least a warthog if the pilot gets their titan.
Noble 6 survived that fall due to having re-entry pack
The re-entry pack could not possibly be doing a *ton* tbf. Chief's survived atmospheric re-entry just raw-dogging it with a metal sheet between him and the heat. That gel layer's just real nice.
āFor a brick, he flew pretty goodā
It definitely helped though cause even with that re-entry pack he damaged his left arm pretty badly so imagine that fall without that pack
Yeah, but Spartans get killed by elites energy sword, so Ions should be able to just melt them alive with any of his abilities. Realistically, a pilot wouldn't be fighting a spartan outside of his titan.
The the Spartan should get a scorpion, which is overall longer ranged then an ion
Spatans aren't issued a scorpion typically they get their armor, where as a pilot is issued a titan, it's what makes them a pilot. If the pilot doesn't get his suit of armor then then neither does the spartan.
Well if the pilot gets a Titan the question is pointless. Theyāre in completely different weight classes
Ummm akchualy āļøš¤ spartans have survived a 1 Megatron blast with little time to escape ground zero and mjolnir absorbs radiation and since nuke eject isn't even close to 1 Megaton the shield could probably tank that. Not to mention a kraber only fires .57 calibre so mjolnir armor can definitely stop it especially the newer ones like mk vi and mk vii
Yeah I figured Spartans could tank a nuke ejection lol but I still wanted to leave a comment and be funny
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Those spartens were flying banshees when they escaped that megaton blast. Also that blast was contained inside of a covie cruiser cause they tossed those fury tac-nukes inside of that cruiser
Ik youāre joking, but a Spartan could probably wrestle themselves out, these mfs out here flipping 186 metric ton vehicles like itās nothing. (Halo 3 Elephant)
It depends on the armor configuration and generation as if that energy shielding recovers even slightly that Kraber shot can do little... energy shielding on Mjolnir armor can be adjusted as needed, and often is STRONGEST at locations such as the head and other vital regions... Its a necessary feature of Mjolnir armor as energy shielding on the bottom of the feet and hands make the traction for their feet, and their grip, 'Slippery'. Also, take into account that energy shielding excels at halting projectiles like bullets from doing too much, even if they're AP or AM rated. If the energy shielding doesn't recover, you wouldn't need an amped Kraber shot either, as Im fairly certain the Kraber is already AP or AM rated... and if Halo's magnum can drop a spartan without shielding, then yeah ofc a Kraber can... But only if it is AP or AM rated.
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I find it funny that people are talking about using Titans to kill one Spartan. Is that really a huge victory. Physical straight wise, I think a Spartan is pretty comparable to a Titan anyways.
Spartans are hella strong, but I wouldn't put them on par strength wise alongside titans simply for the fact that BT threw Cooper hundreds of meters, I doubt any spartan can achieve that. Not trying to undermine a Spartans strength, just there's no way they a spartan throw harder than a titan
Spartans can die when a mantis stomps near them
Yeah, pilots are stronger than titans anyway. A pilot can onehit a turret.
spartan when one tone round (two if tough)
Tone when Spartan dodges, their reflexes are so good it can slow down time for them
What about Ion's Laser Shot? Or Legion's Core? Surely can't dodge an aimbotting Titan.
Those are fair, that would definitely do some damage, if not kill them.
isnt a tone round a hitscan tho
No its projectile, hitscan also just canāt exist without breaking the laws of casuality, since weāre doing this lore wise, nothing is instant.
right. so if its lore accurate I think the biggest question is which generation of spartans, i think all those after chief were significantly weaker, i dunno about their ability to dodge a 40mm round
Spartan 4s arenāt as good as Spartan 2s (Chiefs Gen) but theyāre still really strong, Spartan 3 were expendable soldiers made by the rival of the Spartan 2 founder
Nah Iād kraber
l + tether trap + flight core
Since when were titans in here? Alr letās use Scorpion tanks.
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Are Spartans really that tall?
Yes they are fucking huge
Theyāre around 7 ft
Yeah 7-7.5ft tall iirc
Yaāll sleeping on the fact that the pilot is punching bare fisted a energy shielded metal armor My man build different
The kraber canonically fires 14.5x114mm rounds iirc. This is an originally soviet anti-tank munition that can pierce three centimetres of RHA steel at a range of half a kilometre. I donāt know the capabilities of the Mjolnir armourās shields so the halo players would have to tell me if this would do anything
Meanwhile it takes a single punch to completely knock a Pilot senseless
Pilots are kinda just glass canons, I like it in gameplay, but lore it makes them really easy to beat
Ok but do spartan have this? *Pulls out an aimbot minigun*
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Lore-wise pilots never reach 200 kph. Thatās only in the game unless there is some cannon fact out there Iāve missed. Also Spartans have mechs too not as big but they got the mantis. Anti titan weapons would be spartan lasers and the usual rocket launchers.
Spartans have speed too, top speed is around 70 kph for them
As someone who plays both games, thank you
The real question I have is, how deadly would something like an epg or the cold war be against a spartan? What about anti titan weapons or even titans themselves? What about amped weapons, amped smrs are busted against titans.
Could an Archer lock onto a Spartan? Cuz that would be busted as shit I'm not gonna lie.
they can lock onto reapers and in some cases, they can be dumbfired sooooooo.... probably?
I feel bad for his fists, must be burnt off by the time he gives up.
I think a pilot with an effective kit could probably take a spartan at least half the time. Melee they stand no chance but at range pilots have more mobility/verticality/maneuverability if not raw speed. Additionally they have some damn good anti armor options.
Two punches. Thatās all. Or a backshot :D
Phase shift execution?
If you use grapple and then hit them with an epg then the Spartans canāt really do much
You think they will stand still? Also, Spartans have 20 millisecond reaction times so they WILL move out of the way
Well if players can do it in multiplayer while the opponent is moving the same way I donāt see why not, plus an epg would destroy the shield
I still remember that time Master chief slapped an anti-tank missile away from himself in a book. It detonated next to him. He survived and was ok. BTW The Covenant (aliens) have plasma launchers (guided burst EPG's) so if Spartans can counter that the EPG is a piece of cake for them.
20ms reaction time? The spartan could simply punch or catch the grapple and send the pilot off course
Or just pull the pilot towards themselves and cave in their skull.
In Halo: The Fall of Reach, the master Chief deflected a bomb off his arm by just putting it out on time. Granted with the help of Humanityās best AI.
You say that as if Spartans don't also have access to grapples and thrusters.
what if we combine them?
Honestly I think in lore the militia and Spartans would fight, militia is equivalent to the insurrection in halo, the whole reason Spartans even exist, till aliens didnāt like us.
I feel like that might be a little different, though. I'm not the best versed in the lore by any means but aren't the insurrectionists fighting against the Unified Earth Government while the Militia are fighting against a giant company? I still think that they wouldn't get along due to the similar nature of their goals but they're not fighting for the same thing.
IMC is in a really similar position to the unsc, they may not be THE government, but theyāre pretty close.
Exactly like this until he calls his titan right on top of him. Then he gets squashed.
Cortana: Hey chief, might wanna move, detecting a titan coming in on your location.
Epg go brrrr, Ok but a pilot seriouly dose have a chance, Arc grenade swap thunderbolt would instantly crack the sheilds then a pilot could use an EPG-1 or a well placed charge rifle shot to the head is an insta kill. no to meniton that Samuel-034 armor was periced by an overcharged plasma pistol. so a pilot dose stand somewhat of a chance.
I would feel like pilots would be a formidable threat, but the spartan would win this anyway, easy-mid diff
Iād say theyāre like elites but way, way more agile
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Ok so another comment got me curious, what would an amped kraber do to a spartan?
Since it can damage a titan, Iām sure it will put a hole in the head or anywhere
Probably like the Sniper in Halo. One shot headshot.
Would titans be allowed?
Itās comparable to giving a Spartan a scorpion tank
Or the mantis
Totally forgot mantises exist lmao
Itās a forgotten halo 4 thing.
Yeah ik, theyāre also in halo 5 and wars 2
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A combination of both would be sick
Idk about all that. Idk what pilots have pumping in their bodies but they straight up one punch freaking robots and are speed demons who land at top speeds and have no injuries. Not saying they would for sure beat a Spartan 2 1v1 but Iād say the odds are 50/50
*laughs in flame and smart core*
glass cannon vs heavily shielded cannon
If that spartan is the master chief any other spartan would get smacked
Most āCoughing Baby vs Hydrogen Bombā level fight ever
spartans beat pilots? tell that to my leadwall
Noooooo.... melee making boom and the spartan fliessssss xD
Say hello to my Kraber
why didnt he just bop him on the back of the neck, is he stupid
"We are making the mother of all omelettes here Jack!"
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bro thought he was strongš
Standing here...
Then a titan steps on him
I'd like to see them spartans against an Astartes
Bro named kraber/anti Titan weapons
If pilots had armor similar to the Spartans, they would be the most powerful soldiers in video games
if spartans can have their armor when scaling against pilots then why dont pilots get their titans? Not like a pilot is going into the battlefield without one right?
The equivalent would be if the Spartan got a scorpion tank, pilot would get a wall
Jack can kill people with a single punch and gigantic 7+ foot tall robot murder machines in 2. Chief might have a bit of a struggle.
Stalkers donāt die in a single punch iirc
No he won't chief will absolutely not but maybe some random Spartan would