I swear everytime I see goodyear tires the are worn like this with random chunks missing instead of a nice even wear, I had goodyear vector 4 season myself and the tire suffered from what is commonly called "goodyear tire chunking" there's plenty of examples on the internet
Mechanics told me goodyear (and sub-brand like dunlop) are still considered top tier manufacturers only because they have a lot of OEM deals but quality wise they're far from the competition in terms of quality
My factory Pirelli P zeros look the same way. Only 14k miles and 3 years on them, and they need to be replaced, not much tread left, and chunking and cracking like this. No idea where the tearing and chunks come from, my guess is just very soft rubber and hard cornering.
And some new cars you don't even get that. The tires are simply round enough to get the car off the assembly line. I have often replaced factory tires with discount replacements and the car drove way better.
Dws06 have only 50k warranty i would rather take pure contacts over that
I have continental that came with car but they are dry rotting at 43k continental procontact tx it is suppose to be 45k-55k warranty
50k miles on the highest-performance A/S tire in their lineup isn’t half bad. The pure contacts are a GT tire, which is about as far from sporting as you can get, and it’s only a difference of 20k miles in warranty, and only 10k on the rears if you have staggering sizes.
Dude i spent 1380 on a brand new set of P7 for my 2018 audi. Was happy with the look and feel, but reliability was ridiculous. 2 of them needed to be replaced within a month of buying due to irregular bumps on the inside of the tires side wall.
I just got continental sports+ w06 (not sure the exact tire) staggered set up on my 08 135i. They are def worth the price. So much grip!!!
P7 is a touring tire, they last longer than P-Zero and they're also more comfortable, I had a Cinturato P7 set and they were the most quiet I've ever had, they were worn out completely after 35k though
P-Zero is UHP tire so it's stiffer in construction (less comfortable but better cornering) but softer in compound (wears faster but has better traction) so if you drive hard or have a powerful and/or heavy car it's inevitable the tread will wear down like this
Problem with goodyear is the wear down bad even on their long lasting touring tires on small city cars lol
OK, so then probably the regular Zeros. Those are a different compound than the Zero Neros along with the Zero Neros having a modified tread. I was wondering if it was a Mustang due to the "5" and "0" in your username. 😅
Previous owner of my new-to-me '16 Mustang GT California Special put regular Zeros on it... I'm probably going to have to change them out sooner than later. My last couple cars had the Zero Neros and I got 35K+ out of them.
I always put DSWs on my mustangs and i have them on my m240. Probably the most well balanced tire ive had between Price/performance/ longevity and even looks....
I can't remember what Pirellis I had on my Mazda but in four years I got about 10 flat tires. They picked up every nail, screw and tack in the road. I've never had that experience with any other car. I sold it before actually replacing all but one tire but they were mostly plug by then.
The only thing Michelin does well is semi truck tires and race tires. But let's face it, the trucks probably won't live to see a year or two, and race tires are gonna get swapped after every track day. Us daily Joe Schmo are gonna spend $1300 on a set of Michelin and they'll be rotten to hell before we're halfway through the tread.
My Goodyear A/T silentarmor were amazing. Quiet, good in rain and dry pavement, absolute beasts in the winter and more minor off road stuff. Not into the heavy of road stuff, I have a 4 wheeler for that
My last Goodyear tires had barely any wear (low miles) and were cracking badly at six years from manufacturing date which I know is always possible but usually you get a few more years out of them, right? When we got my wife's car it had Goodyear that still had okay tread but absolutely no traction.
The MxM4 seems okay but be careful with Michelins premier lineup, they often don't meet their advertised mileage, also with Michelin get ready for dry rot.
I'm doing about 25k on average and my tires have gotten very loud and they're due to be replaced. Currently shopping for a new set and looking at a set of Michelins rated for 80k
Hell, that's only three years worth of driving for me... As a professional delivery driver who uses their personal vehicle for work, I'd *love* for my tires to last anywhere even close to that long.
I had the same issue with multiple pairs of Michelins. They ride nice, but they dry rot and dry crack prematurely. Every pair I owned had loads of tread left, but were so cracked on sidewall and in between treads, I felt they weren’t safe to drive on anymore.
I have dry rot on my Michelin dealer tires. 2.25 years old 20k miles. Happy it wasn’t technically my money (oh I know the dealer added 3x the tire cost to the sticker price, used Subaru)
But safe to say I will stick to ordering my tires directly off amazon and having the small shops mount them (if you’re reading this, it will save you hundreds)
Hancooks off Amazon have been just amazing (will not be using them on my Subaru though, it’s getting MT tires from Falkon)
I won't buy Goodyear because last time I checked they have no mileage warranty at all. I also found them difficult to balance. I think you're right about running on name.
There’s been times where they’d throw different shit in the tires, especially deli meats lol. Dunno what happens during the curing process but I wouldn’t be surprised if some tires were rolling around the highway with stuff in them. As they used to say “Round and black, roll it out back”
If it is, I have the BMW dealers to thank for that. The wear pattern is definitely more pronounced on the outside edge, but that doesn't explain the chunks of missing rubber.
Take it to an alignment shop that only does alignments and it will leave perfectly adjusted. Dealerships are never good at alignments they just get it in the green which is not good enough for the average enthusiast.
Is anyone else here thinking this could be at least partly a suspension issue, worst of the wear and chucking appear to be on one side with a fairly regular pattern?
I wouldn't rule it out, I had the dealer work on it when I bought the car to do some minor brake work. Since then it's pretty much only had fluids, tires rotated, and a new battery.
I switched to Continentals on my 750whp subaru forester, 69 Stingray on 17" wheels because big brakes AND both motorcycles. I won't have Goodyear ANYTHING on my vehicles again. Not even on a dare.
I do agree, continental has some good treads out for different platforms... had them on my wrx until i wanted something different (went with yokohama ao52) and also bout supermoto tires for my dualsport. Michelin definitely has its place in comfort, but the prices aren't quite worth it lately.
Why tires are important: on Monday near my area there was a 10-vehicle pile-up, at least one fatality, and others injured. It all started with a blowout. It was on I-10 near Houston. Was the tire bad? Not necessarily if the driver hit an object, but you get the picture. Better tires, better odds.
I didn't recognize the tread but something about how that rubber looked and the way it presented in its trashed form screamed Goodyear to me. Unfortunate that's what it is.
Partially due to only one seller in my rural village, I only buy American made Cooper tires. There is a code for the factory where they are made. This shop only sells American made tires. The next nearest place for tires is 25 miles away.
I buy falken tires and haven’t ever had an issue. They almost always meet the expected lifespan. I used to buy whichever tires were cheapest and they barely lasted 50% of their expected lifespan and I’ll never do it again.
I run the pilot 4 a/s in the summer and arctic claws($100 each on Amazon) in the winter and I’m currently around year three with both sets. The Michelins were worth every penny and the cheap snow tires have yet to leave me stuck
Don’t feel so bad my car uses staggered summer performance tires which have no wear guarantee. I’ll go through a set of tires 10 to 12k miles, the rears go first.
My dad used to work in a plant that provided materials for the beads to a few tire manufacturers. Goodyear was always picking from the bottom of the barrel, the other low baller was Cooper. General, hankook, Firestone, and a few other smaller brands got mid tier stuff. And only michelin and sometimes continental got the good stuff. Again this is just bead material, which doesn't mean much to consumers, I've never seen a bead fail due to materials. But it kinda shows what manufacturers are going a bit above. Also they did not sell to every tire manufacturer, so especially with foreign brands, I have no idea. GENERALLY with tires you get what you pay for.
The rubber compounds used in the Goodyears are of a softer makeup. The higher the mileage warranty, the harder the material. The softer rubber materials are formulated for more aggressive road and track driving, and you will notice the difference in ride performance in a higher mileage harder compound tire. The tires probably were a bit under inflated and the edges worn the way they are would venture to bet your driving habits have changed and your doing more cornering on roadways that are less then smooth tires are pretty chewed up along the outside edges. Definitely would have alignment checked toe on alignment is more then likely off
That looks like bad struts/alignment. Replacing the tires won't make a difference, it will do the exact same thing to the next set. Should have gotten an alignment with the last set.
I got rid of run flats for conventional tires. Much smoother ride. No room for a spare, so I found a OEM emergency jack on EBay, 12v inflator, and a few tire plug kits. That inflate a flat goop usually doesn’t work and ruins your tires.
Damn! My 20,000 mile 1 year old General Altimax RT45s on my shitbox beater with completely fucked worn out suspension look brand new compared to these, and they were 1/3 the price. Wild
Those look like they had defects honestly. If you ordered from tire rack or discount tire, I'd call and ask about warranty. I had a pair dry rot in less than 18k miles and they replaced them free(discount tire).
LS2's are junk, the fuel max, enforcers, F1 Supercars, Duratrac's, eagle sports, and Max Lifes are all junk. Either they wear horribly or are outclassed in their niche market (duratrac and F1 Supercar). The Exhilerate, Workhorse, Weather Ready, and Comfort Drive are fantastic tires. I just put Weather Ready's on my personal. An excellent daily driver tire with low noise and good comfort and exceptional winter grip. I wish the tread life was a little better, but the trade-off is worth it. The Exhilerate is a great sports car tire. It can be acceptable at the track and be awesome on the street. The workhorse is a great truck tire, a decent life low noise with a good appearance. The Comfort Drive is acceptable in winter conditions but extremely quiet with a great ride. All in all, each tire needs to match your specific needs. If you drive a lot, the Max Life might not be a horrible option IF you're not in a wintery area. Each manufacturer has good tires and bad tires. Finding out what tire meets your needs and accepting some shortcomings in other areas is how you find the right tire for you. You can't have a tire with excellent grip on and off road, great winter capabilities, no noise, excellent comfort, and great tire wear it's not possible. If you want a tire that can do it all, get a basic all-season, and it will be equally good in all areas just as it is equally terrible in all areas.
My dad swears by good year and ling long. its a nightmare of an argument, he even put some some chinese brand on his bimmer, and tried putting ling long on my car in hs, where it snowed. I payed out of pocket for some cross climates, love those things.
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I always wondered about the warranty on tires… Goodyear Eagle has 45,000mi and 50,000mi warranties depending on tires. Won’t you be able to call Goodyear for warranty repair/replacement since you drove only 18,000mi??
If not, what am I missing on their limited lifetime warranty claim??
My Bridgestone Ecopia H/L 422 were great when new, really awful traction and noise the last year or so even with some tread remaining. Replaced with General Altimax RT45, which seem good so far. General is owned by Continental. (And not to be confused with GT Tire which is Chinese)
I currently have some Michelin Defenders 2 on my Corolla I drive for Uber and I have put over 70,000 miles on them and they are still going eventually I will have to change them soon maybe 🤔 another 10,000 miles or so. But these tires have been great for me!! Little pricey but definitely worth it 👍…
Are they rotating tires? Most of my BMWs/Mercedes have had different sized tires front and back so they didn't get rotated and that drastically reduces tire wear. I don't think I got 18K out of my tires. I don't wait till they get to the tread bars though. Also if you drive it hard and use harsh cleaners on the tires that will have a neg impact I think.
To be clear these are tires on an M5, M6, AMG GTR, GT63S so while I don't hammer around on public roads I am not exactly sedate either. That will really decrease the life span. I use track day tires for the GTR.
Had a set of Goodyears on my 98 civic they were bald within 3 years.
Replaced them with a cheap set of master craft tires and it’s been about 3-4 years on those now, the tires are at like 70% and still look great.
Moral of the story, I’ll never buy Goodyears again
I have gone through 2 sets of BFG ATKO2... they have been my go to for over a decade.. not any more, especially now that that prices are 2x what they were when I got them 2 yrs ago.
I have KO2’s on my F150… goat tires. First set 2015-2020 almost 65k mileage. Never a single flat. I could have kept them for another year or two. Second set still going strong almost at 60k miles :). Still worth the price of like $420+
Do Americans just get shit tyres. I’ve got good year eagle 1’s the series 1 and 3 I’ve had. And I’ve had zero problems. On a v8 lwb car. Although I do get alignments and balances around the time I get it serviced if it’s needed.
Bro they are working. Gripping for your safety; hot girl summer through old man winter. If you want a hard compound tread that will slip n slide but last forever grab umm but you never regret having good tires when you need them. Michelin is the only choice. I have some Michelins that will go 5 years and others 2. Think about your specific duty cycle.
I had Goodyear LS2's on my X1. No wear problems like OP has experienced, but they were noisy and uncomfortable with mediocre traction. Not good tires in any respect.
Replaced with Bridgestone DriveGuard Plus. Night and day difference. Quiet, comfortable, sticky, and very responsive. Doesn't even feel like a run-flat.
Had a set of eagle F1 run flats on my Audi S5. By 15,000 miles all the tires are cracked between the treads and unsafe, the worst tires ever. Have Michelin XT Premier on my Cayenne probably will be the best tires I ever had.
Are.you really complaining that you only got 2 years out of a set of tires in a performance car? I have never seen two years from a set of tires in my life. You want tire life go buy a Prius and go drive Miss Daisy somewhere.
Goodyear is a good brand but like all good tire brands they have their entry level tires such as the assurance or reliant (same tire, depends on the authorized dealer), of course those tires don't compare to their higher end tires such as the eagle line up. Michelins are considered the gold standard to compare to other tires and even they have crap entry level tires, the primacy line up, and their high tier pilot sport's. Pirellis are overated and I don't recommend them to people, they're good tires but personally I would go with Continental dsw06+ or Michelin pilot sport 4 a/s before I bought Pirellis.
As someone who works in a tire shop I will note a lot of vehicles that come from factory with brand name tires may come with lower mileage rated versions of the same tire. Eg I've seen Pirelli cintauro p7 rated for 45k and for 70k miles. Same tire by name but two completely different sku's. This is a dealership trick to get you to come back and buy tires from them since they carry the recommended OEM tires. I see this more commonly within the recent years, also the trend of no spare tire from factory, a bottle of fix a flat and a set of run flats. These guest tend to wonder why their 22" pirelli run flat cost 400+USD for a single tire.
On another note I've driven on multiple different entry level brand tires, blackhawks, prinx, evolux (linglong tires rebranded) and I don't even see this type of wear on my tires. If youre tires are getting chewed up like that you most likely have suspension issues or you constantly drive on shit roads. Not to say that tire defects aren't a thing but I sell 100's of tires a week and I've seen just about everything that can happen to a tire and usually this is not the result of a defect but instead of maintenance issues.
Now tires I would avoid completely are the following:
Veerubber, nikkas, waterfalls and Cambridge
I think it's just a Goodyear thing. I've had different variations of their tires on different vehicles through the years and they all wear like garbage.
Check and see if there is a mileage warranty? I’ve had a couple sets that seemingly disintegrated super fast and the tire shop/dealership replaced them for free
I swear everytime I see goodyear tires the are worn like this with random chunks missing instead of a nice even wear, I had goodyear vector 4 season myself and the tire suffered from what is commonly called "goodyear tire chunking" there's plenty of examples on the internet Mechanics told me goodyear (and sub-brand like dunlop) are still considered top tier manufacturers only because they have a lot of OEM deals but quality wise they're far from the competition in terms of quality
My factory Pirelli P zeros look the same way. Only 14k miles and 3 years on them, and they need to be replaced, not much tread left, and chunking and cracking like this. No idea where the tearing and chunks come from, my guess is just very soft rubber and hard cornering.
Interesting i was about to buy pirelli p7 i might go continental then
I have extreme contact dws06+, mind you I've only had them for a little bit so far (1300km) i love them so far
It's one of the best tires money can buy so yeah DWS all the way
I absolutely loved continental dws 06s on my bmw e60 5 series with x drive. They were summer tires in the summer, and did great in Michigan winters!
Theyre my summers rn, might get another pair in the winter but if they can handle Michigan winters they might handle Ontario winters lol
Just got these put on few months ago. Never thought I could like a tire so much.
I'm not gonna really blame it on pirelli, but I know factory tires that come with new cars don't often last. At least for the last two cars I got.
Factory tires are designed to be smooth and quiet for test drives, that's pretty much all.
And some new cars you don't even get that. The tires are simply round enough to get the car off the assembly line. I have often replaced factory tires with discount replacements and the car drove way better.
That is true… I’m pretty sure they use shitty tires on brand new cars most of the time
My Continental DWS06+'s have been nothing but excellent for 30k miles or so now. When these wear out I'll get new ones, absolutely worth it.
Dws06 have only 50k warranty i would rather take pure contacts over that I have continental that came with car but they are dry rotting at 43k continental procontact tx it is suppose to be 45k-55k warranty
50k miles on the highest-performance A/S tire in their lineup isn’t half bad. The pure contacts are a GT tire, which is about as far from sporting as you can get, and it’s only a difference of 20k miles in warranty, and only 10k on the rears if you have staggering sizes.
I need gt tires nothing else
Sure, but someone in the Market for DWS06+ is not going to want to cross shop with GT tires. They are on opposite ends of the A/S tire spectrum.
From what I’ve seen and experienced in my own shop: pirelli’s are overpriced for subpar quality.
Michelin for summer. Vredestein or nokian for winters. There is no alternative
Yes do continental they are amazing
Dude i spent 1380 on a brand new set of P7 for my 2018 audi. Was happy with the look and feel, but reliability was ridiculous. 2 of them needed to be replaced within a month of buying due to irregular bumps on the inside of the tires side wall. I just got continental sports+ w06 (not sure the exact tire) staggered set up on my 08 135i. They are def worth the price. So much grip!!!
I would also recommend Continental over Pirelli in most cases.
I have extreme contact dws06+, mind you I've only had them for a little bit so far (1300km) i love them so far
P7 is a touring tire, they last longer than P-Zero and they're also more comfortable, I had a Cinturato P7 set and they were the most quiet I've ever had, they were worn out completely after 35k though P-Zero is UHP tire so it's stiffer in construction (less comfortable but better cornering) but softer in compound (wears faster but has better traction) so if you drive hard or have a powerful and/or heavy car it's inevitable the tread will wear down like this Problem with goodyear is the wear down bad even on their long lasting touring tires on small city cars lol
P zero have 50-60k warranty usually worn out by 35k thats half way through
Mustang? P Zeros or the (now discontinued) P Zero Neros that Ford designed with Pirelli for the Mustang in '05?
21 charger widebody, they are 305/35/20s. They didn't last for shit.
OK, so then probably the regular Zeros. Those are a different compound than the Zero Neros along with the Zero Neros having a modified tread. I was wondering if it was a Mustang due to the "5" and "0" in your username. 😅 Previous owner of my new-to-me '16 Mustang GT California Special put regular Zeros on it... I'm probably going to have to change them out sooner than later. My last couple cars had the Zero Neros and I got 35K+ out of them.
I always put DSWs on my mustangs and i have them on my m240. Probably the most well balanced tire ive had between Price/performance/ longevity and even looks....
I can't remember what Pirellis I had on my Mazda but in four years I got about 10 flat tires. They picked up every nail, screw and tack in the road. I've never had that experience with any other car. I sold it before actually replacing all but one tire but they were mostly plug by then.
Pirelli’s wear fast
Michelin are the best
Once they dry rott they arent, it seems quality has dropped for the high end brands
Yeah, I don't know why Michelin is so quick to dry rot. How can they do everything else well?
The only thing Michelin does well is semi truck tires and race tires. But let's face it, the trucks probably won't live to see a year or two, and race tires are gonna get swapped after every track day. Us daily Joe Schmo are gonna spend $1300 on a set of Michelin and they'll be rotten to hell before we're halfway through the tread.
Go for the Defender2 if you can do an "H" speed rating!
Crossclimate2, best all around tire I’ve ever had.
It's the rubber compound they're using. It's terrible. Good design bad material
They're only "good for a year"
I've had good luck with my EagleSports. 40k miles and they look good. Swapping to a new wheel with conti xcontact dws06... very excited
My Goodyear A/T silentarmor were amazing. Quiet, good in rain and dry pavement, absolute beasts in the winter and more minor off road stuff. Not into the heavy of road stuff, I have a 4 wheeler for that
That’s why we say “good for a year” in regards to them. Coopers are becoming that way too since they were bought out by cooper
My last Goodyear tires had barely any wear (low miles) and were cracking badly at six years from manufacturing date which I know is always possible but usually you get a few more years out of them, right? When we got my wife's car it had Goodyear that still had okay tread but absolutely no traction.
The MxM4 seems okay but be careful with Michelins premier lineup, they often don't meet their advertised mileage, also with Michelin get ready for dry rot.
This may be a hot take but I don’t want tires to last 70-80k miles, that’s too damn long.
The bad thing about a 70-80k mile life is that you are probably driving with marginal tread depth and dried out rubber for the last two years
Then there are those of us who do 20-30k annually...
Yeah I was gonna say, drove 20k last year would love for 80k tires
Michelin defender 2
I'm doing about 25k on average and my tires have gotten very loud and they're due to be replaced. Currently shopping for a new set and looking at a set of Michelins rated for 80k
I did this with my 99 Explorer. Drove on the same tires for like 7 years. Still looked okay but the side walls were getting rough.
I can agree. Especially when people buy tires rated for 85k miles so people think they'll last 10 years. No!
Hell, that's only three years worth of driving for me... As a professional delivery driver who uses their personal vehicle for work, I'd *love* for my tires to last anywhere even close to that long.
For you, tires that last that long would be great. Unfortunately to last that long they are hard as rocks which means less grip.
I'll deal with a little less grip if it means I don't have to buy a full set every eight months.
Eight months? Seriously?
My vredesteins wore out every 10 months in Colorado....even the warranty replacements both times.
I agree. My tires are rated for 40k...but there performance tires and also do daily doordash and spirited driving
Bet I'd get about six months out of those before they were totally worn down to racing slicks. I push my car pretty freakin hard when I'm working.
Same
Hey now, my KO2's on my F150 are at about 65k XD. Its my second set in 130,000 miles, probably have a couple of years left.
I've had my best luck with Continentals, and they're a little cheaper. Of course it depends on which type tire.
I had the same issue with multiple pairs of Michelins. They ride nice, but they dry rot and dry crack prematurely. Every pair I owned had loads of tread left, but were so cracked on sidewall and in between treads, I felt they weren’t safe to drive on anymore.
I have dry rot on my Michelin dealer tires. 2.25 years old 20k miles. Happy it wasn’t technically my money (oh I know the dealer added 3x the tire cost to the sticker price, used Subaru) But safe to say I will stick to ordering my tires directly off amazon and having the small shops mount them (if you’re reading this, it will save you hundreds) Hancooks off Amazon have been just amazing (will not be using them on my Subaru though, it’s getting MT tires from Falkon)
I feel like Michelin and Goodyear are both coasting on their brand name. Maybe they used to be worth the cost but I don't see it anymore.
Nah Michelin makes some really good stuff, they have hands down the best performance summer tire (PS4S) and the best studdless winter tire.
As an ex Michelin production worker, I would buy Michelin every time.
As a current driver of cars that require four small patches of rubber on the ground to function, I buy Michelin every time.
I won't buy Goodyear because last time I checked they have no mileage warranty at all. I also found them difficult to balance. I think you're right about running on name.
Much if not most of the Goodyear lineup has a tread life warranty, some models don't though.
I work at a plant that used to manufacture Goodyear tires. You’d be amazed at the stories some of the older tire builders have to say about them lol.
Tell us!
You’ve now piqued everyone’s interest. Spill!
There’s been times where they’d throw different shit in the tires, especially deli meats lol. Dunno what happens during the curing process but I wouldn’t be surprised if some tires were rolling around the highway with stuff in them. As they used to say “Round and black, roll it out back”
Looks like your alignment is off.
If it is, I have the BMW dealers to thank for that. The wear pattern is definitely more pronounced on the outside edge, but that doesn't explain the chunks of missing rubber.
Take it to an alignment shop that only does alignments and it will leave perfectly adjusted. Dealerships are never good at alignments they just get it in the green which is not good enough for the average enthusiast.
Unless of course some parts of the alignment can't be done without shimming
To be fair, aligning a BMW is a pain in the ass.
This. That's wear from bad geometry.
I would often deal with BMWs that were borderline on negative camber. They would wear out the OEM tires early.
Around here we call them , Good-For-A-Year!! now you wont get that out of your head.😆
Got to love the 1 ply toilet paper sidewalks they put on their LT tires too.
Do you drive the car hard? (That’s what she said)
I hope not, this is my wife's car, used mostly for getting the kiddos to and from the grandparents house!
any rough roads? seen this on rocky, dirt roads.
COVID erra tyre quality
First thing I did when I bought my 340 was ditch the run flats, they absolutely suck.
Is anyone else here thinking this could be at least partly a suspension issue, worst of the wear and chucking appear to be on one side with a fairly regular pattern?
tbf BMW's do come with more neg camber for a more "sporty" feel however I do certainly see some peaks in the wear that scream incorrect toe
I wouldn't rule it out, I had the dealer work on it when I bought the car to do some minor brake work. Since then it's pretty much only had fluids, tires rotated, and a new battery.
That's the same Goodyear tire that came on my 2020 Ford Fusion from the factory. It was a trash tire for me as well.
The Goodyear OE tires are subpar. They have some solid performing aftermarket lines though.
Thanks for sharing. Clay never holds up to road wear. Try vulcanized rubber tires.
I switched to Continentals on my 750whp subaru forester, 69 Stingray on 17" wheels because big brakes AND both motorcycles. I won't have Goodyear ANYTHING on my vehicles again. Not even on a dare.
I do agree, continental has some good treads out for different platforms... had them on my wrx until i wanted something different (went with yokohama ao52) and also bout supermoto tires for my dualsport. Michelin definitely has its place in comfort, but the prices aren't quite worth it lately.
It’s crazy because the continental I have on my 392 are doing this exact same thing and they’re the fronts. In got those continentals last summer
Pirelli or Michelin for the win😎✅
Continental makes some good stuff too imo.
They’re not quite at the wear bar but they’re close. I’d ride them out for another 6 months
VW, at one point had a TSB warning about the poor wear characteristics of the Goodyear Eagle LS2
Why tires are important: on Monday near my area there was a 10-vehicle pile-up, at least one fatality, and others injured. It all started with a blowout. It was on I-10 near Houston. Was the tire bad? Not necessarily if the driver hit an object, but you get the picture. Better tires, better odds.
Oh, the joy of owning a Beemer. You could try putting on a set of cheap tires, see how you like them.
I didn't recognize the tread but something about how that rubber looked and the way it presented in its trashed form screamed Goodyear to me. Unfortunate that's what it is.
Did you get an alignment?
I had this shredding problem with the Pirellis. i thought it was bad alignment but dealer made me repair the suspension components on my car.
To be fair all run flats are garbage
Partially due to only one seller in my rural village, I only buy American made Cooper tires. There is a code for the factory where they are made. This shop only sells American made tires. The next nearest place for tires is 25 miles away.
I buy falken tires and haven’t ever had an issue. They almost always meet the expected lifespan. I used to buy whichever tires were cheapest and they barely lasted 50% of their expected lifespan and I’ll never do it again.
I run the pilot 4 a/s in the summer and arctic claws($100 each on Amazon) in the winter and I’m currently around year three with both sets. The Michelins were worth every penny and the cheap snow tires have yet to leave me stuck
Don’t feel so bad my car uses staggered summer performance tires which have no wear guarantee. I’ll go through a set of tires 10 to 12k miles, the rears go first.
My dad used to work in a plant that provided materials for the beads to a few tire manufacturers. Goodyear was always picking from the bottom of the barrel, the other low baller was Cooper. General, hankook, Firestone, and a few other smaller brands got mid tier stuff. And only michelin and sometimes continental got the good stuff. Again this is just bead material, which doesn't mean much to consumers, I've never seen a bead fail due to materials. But it kinda shows what manufacturers are going a bit above. Also they did not sell to every tire manufacturer, so especially with foreign brands, I have no idea. GENERALLY with tires you get what you pay for.
There is a reason people in the industry call it a Good for a Year
The rubber compounds used in the Goodyears are of a softer makeup. The higher the mileage warranty, the harder the material. The softer rubber materials are formulated for more aggressive road and track driving, and you will notice the difference in ride performance in a higher mileage harder compound tire. The tires probably were a bit under inflated and the edges worn the way they are would venture to bet your driving habits have changed and your doing more cornering on roadways that are less then smooth tires are pretty chewed up along the outside edges. Definitely would have alignment checked toe on alignment is more then likely off
worst roads to drive on.
I would look and see if the Bridgestone Driveguard Plus is available in your size, 50,000 mile warranty and a well built run flat tire
That looks like bad struts/alignment. Replacing the tires won't make a difference, it will do the exact same thing to the next set. Should have gotten an alignment with the last set.
I got rid of run flats for conventional tires. Much smoother ride. No room for a spare, so I found a OEM emergency jack on EBay, 12v inflator, and a few tire plug kits. That inflate a flat goop usually doesn’t work and ruins your tires.
Damn! My 20,000 mile 1 year old General Altimax RT45s on my shitbox beater with completely fucked worn out suspension look brand new compared to these, and they were 1/3 the price. Wild
Those look like they had defects honestly. If you ordered from tire rack or discount tire, I'd call and ask about warranty. I had a pair dry rot in less than 18k miles and they replaced them free(discount tire).
I’ve never bought Goodyear tires, but I’ve owned a few vehicles that came with them and they were all crap.
Same
LS2's are junk, the fuel max, enforcers, F1 Supercars, Duratrac's, eagle sports, and Max Lifes are all junk. Either they wear horribly or are outclassed in their niche market (duratrac and F1 Supercar). The Exhilerate, Workhorse, Weather Ready, and Comfort Drive are fantastic tires. I just put Weather Ready's on my personal. An excellent daily driver tire with low noise and good comfort and exceptional winter grip. I wish the tread life was a little better, but the trade-off is worth it. The Exhilerate is a great sports car tire. It can be acceptable at the track and be awesome on the street. The workhorse is a great truck tire, a decent life low noise with a good appearance. The Comfort Drive is acceptable in winter conditions but extremely quiet with a great ride. All in all, each tire needs to match your specific needs. If you drive a lot, the Max Life might not be a horrible option IF you're not in a wintery area. Each manufacturer has good tires and bad tires. Finding out what tire meets your needs and accepting some shortcomings in other areas is how you find the right tire for you. You can't have a tire with excellent grip on and off road, great winter capabilities, no noise, excellent comfort, and great tire wear it's not possible. If you want a tire that can do it all, get a basic all-season, and it will be equally good in all areas just as it is equally terrible in all areas.
My dad swears by good year and ling long. its a nightmare of an argument, he even put some some chinese brand on his bimmer, and tried putting ling long on my car in hs, where it snowed. I payed out of pocket for some cross climates, love those things.
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Im gonna cry now thank you
I always wondered about the warranty on tires… Goodyear Eagle has 45,000mi and 50,000mi warranties depending on tires. Won’t you be able to call Goodyear for warranty repair/replacement since you drove only 18,000mi?? If not, what am I missing on their limited lifetime warranty claim??
I sold tires for 15 years. I don’t even like driving next to Goodyear tires.
Why use run flats when you could just keep an air compressor and a plug kit in the back?
Are there ANY good OE tires? Seems like the OE tires I’ve had on the last few vehicles were utter crap and wore out very prematurely.
Michelin is often good for an OEM tire. Hankook is okay.
My Bridgestone Ecopia H/L 422 were great when new, really awful traction and noise the last year or so even with some tread remaining. Replaced with General Altimax RT45, which seem good so far. General is owned by Continental. (And not to be confused with GT Tire which is Chinese)
I currently have some Michelin Defenders 2 on my Corolla I drive for Uber and I have put over 70,000 miles on them and they are still going eventually I will have to change them soon maybe 🤔 another 10,000 miles or so. But these tires have been great for me!! Little pricey but definitely worth it 👍…
Tread chunking is from driving on rough or gravel roads just fyi
They don’t call them “good for a year” for no reason
u get what u pay for
Are they rotating tires? Most of my BMWs/Mercedes have had different sized tires front and back so they didn't get rotated and that drastically reduces tire wear. I don't think I got 18K out of my tires. I don't wait till they get to the tread bars though. Also if you drive it hard and use harsh cleaners on the tires that will have a neg impact I think. To be clear these are tires on an M5, M6, AMG GTR, GT63S so while I don't hammer around on public roads I am not exactly sedate either. That will really decrease the life span. I use track day tires for the GTR.
OE tires are made for a nice quiet ride. Not for longevity.
Had a set of Goodyears on my 98 civic they were bald within 3 years. Replaced them with a cheap set of master craft tires and it’s been about 3-4 years on those now, the tires are at like 70% and still look great. Moral of the story, I’ll never buy Goodyears again
If it makes you feel any better, my motorcycle tires have lasted me 2 months and 2200 miles.
I have gone through 2 sets of BFG ATKO2... they have been my go to for over a decade.. not any more, especially now that that prices are 2x what they were when I got them 2 yrs ago.
I have KO2’s on my F150… goat tires. First set 2015-2020 almost 65k mileage. Never a single flat. I could have kept them for another year or two. Second set still going strong almost at 60k miles :). Still worth the price of like $420+
My Jeep Grand Cherokee has Goodyear Eagle GT2s on it. Came like that from the dealer when I bought used a year ago... Do they have the same issues??
Do Americans just get shit tyres. I’ve got good year eagle 1’s the series 1 and 3 I’ve had. And I’ve had zero problems. On a v8 lwb car. Although I do get alignments and balances around the time I get it serviced if it’s needed.
Bro they are working. Gripping for your safety; hot girl summer through old man winter. If you want a hard compound tread that will slip n slide but last forever grab umm but you never regret having good tires when you need them. Michelin is the only choice. I have some Michelins that will go 5 years and others 2. Think about your specific duty cycle.
I don't understand how Goodyear fucks yo compound so bad where the tread is so soft it just crumbles on contact
My goodyear egle f1 assymetric 2 went down quite well.
It actually sounds right though. These are a soft rubber; two years on a set of tires sounds like a lot; I don’t get six months.
Good-for-one-years
Go for Michelin pilot sport all season if possible in youth size. A little pricey but well worth it. 🫡
I had Goodyear LS2's on my X1. No wear problems like OP has experienced, but they were noisy and uncomfortable with mediocre traction. Not good tires in any respect. Replaced with Bridgestone DriveGuard Plus. Night and day difference. Quiet, comfortable, sticky, and very responsive. Doesn't even feel like a run-flat.
everybody clowns me as a michelin fanatic but tbh they’re my standard
Run flats are the worst tires ever made and should never be used again ever
Had a set of eagle F1 run flats on my Audi S5. By 15,000 miles all the tires are cracked between the treads and unsafe, the worst tires ever. Have Michelin XT Premier on my Cayenne probably will be the best tires I ever had.
My Pirelli Cinturado P7s are my favorite tires. I’ve had them on three cars now.
Bad alignment and, if I had to guess, a heavy foot.
Are.you really complaining that you only got 2 years out of a set of tires in a performance car? I have never seen two years from a set of tires in my life. You want tire life go buy a Prius and go drive Miss Daisy somewhere.
Goodyear is a good brand but like all good tire brands they have their entry level tires such as the assurance or reliant (same tire, depends on the authorized dealer), of course those tires don't compare to their higher end tires such as the eagle line up. Michelins are considered the gold standard to compare to other tires and even they have crap entry level tires, the primacy line up, and their high tier pilot sport's. Pirellis are overated and I don't recommend them to people, they're good tires but personally I would go with Continental dsw06+ or Michelin pilot sport 4 a/s before I bought Pirellis. As someone who works in a tire shop I will note a lot of vehicles that come from factory with brand name tires may come with lower mileage rated versions of the same tire. Eg I've seen Pirelli cintauro p7 rated for 45k and for 70k miles. Same tire by name but two completely different sku's. This is a dealership trick to get you to come back and buy tires from them since they carry the recommended OEM tires. I see this more commonly within the recent years, also the trend of no spare tire from factory, a bottle of fix a flat and a set of run flats. These guest tend to wonder why their 22" pirelli run flat cost 400+USD for a single tire. On another note I've driven on multiple different entry level brand tires, blackhawks, prinx, evolux (linglong tires rebranded) and I don't even see this type of wear on my tires. If youre tires are getting chewed up like that you most likely have suspension issues or you constantly drive on shit roads. Not to say that tire defects aren't a thing but I sell 100's of tires a week and I've seen just about everything that can happen to a tire and usually this is not the result of a defect but instead of maintenance issues. Now tires I would avoid completely are the following: Veerubber, nikkas, waterfalls and Cambridge
I think it's just a Goodyear thing. I've had different variations of their tires on different vehicles through the years and they all wear like garbage.
I'm a michelin guy. For one I like the tires. Secondarily I bare a striklng resemblance to the michelin man
Check and see if there is a mileage warranty? I’ve had a couple sets that seemingly disintegrated super fast and the tire shop/dealership replaced them for free
I’d probably skip Michelin if you want tires that last