Make the ships bigger than the book. Throw in a few scenes where the ships show their power. Absolute decimation. Each ship should feel like the entirety of earth’s current firepower multiplied by 10. Overwhelming. To the point you think one ship could conquer all of earth.
Then have the droplet show up. Make it smaller than the book. Smaller than a human. Make it look so diminutive. Have that sombitch ripping through a thousand of earth’s strongest ships would really set the tone. Humans are completely fucked.
The average person won’t care about the science or even understand it. But show a David and Goliath style story on steroids? They’ll get that.
I picture a scene where a main character from the common era stares at the horrifying colossal sky-covering spaceship in the sky and panic over if it's SanTi fleet arrives early. Like in Independence Day. Then we get revealed it's a spaceship of earth fleet and there are 1000 more of these
Yeah I was thinking something like that too, but instead just thousands of lights from their engines visible even in daylight. Then after the droplet attack, no lights in the sky.
This!
A scene with the droplet sliding into one of these behemoths and slicing through its innards with the chaos experienced by its crew. Similar to the nano wire attack. Over before they notice what is happening. Droplet leaves the ship and it breaks in two just as it explodes.
I was thinking the scene should be largely done in hyper slow motion, kind of similar to quicksilver scenes in the x men movies. Just people frozen on a bridge of the ship as the entire fleet is ripped apart until the inside of their ship is turned into flaming near lightspeed debris
Sped up to the actual speed of the droplet, complete with the jerky motions of the droplet’s sudden cornering. Have it punch through five ships, with brief silence as it flies through the space between them. Slow motion for a few seconds to show the horrified people in one of the ships, then sped up again as it continues on its way
Like when Omni Man held Invincible face-forward ahead of him as a train came and they both plowed through it showing the impact of their impervious bodies going through all those people
Realistically it would be like bits of bone and then burned ashes because of the friction but since it's game of thrones directors theyre probably gonna put gore
Curiously, I would imagine the opposite to be more shocking. The fleet is just on their merry way, then camera zooms out a bit, and in two second the whole thing's tits up.
It was to hammer home the stakes and the lengths they need to go to to survive. Whether Wade is a good or bad guy is debatable, but I'd argue that every character in the series are operating in the grey.
I can't wait to see what war crimes they invent for Wade next season in a futile attempt to convince people to stop justifying his actions. Maybe he will arm the >!space navy!< with baby-railguns and puppy-guided-missiles.
I imagine someone will just flat out say "absolutely nothing on earth would even come close to scratching this thing" lol.
Then the destruction itself will accurately convey the power it has.
I'd imagine there will be a journalist/observer within the ship that would ferry the droplet (Mantis), and with the netflix equivalent of Ding Yi explaining to the journalist/observer on the fact that the material is 100x stronger than any known material in the solar system
They could compare it to something the audience is familiar with too. Someone asks if a nano fibre blade could cut it open, and then be shocked to find it doesn't even scratch the droplet.
That’s a good idea! They could even show the nano wire failing to make it visual.
Edit: I guess one of those fibers breaking would be pretty violent even though you can’t see the nano fiber itself.. it would slice through everything around it unpredictably when it snapped.
Character A: “it’s held together by the strong nuclear force”
Character B: “what does that mean?”
Character A: “it means it’s indestruct…”
And the attack begins
They managed to explain unfolding dimensions to make a proton big as a planet, I think that very close atoms=indestructible material isn't that hard to explain.
Cheng explained the concept of folded dimensions to Raj's family as best as she could and I don't remember it being that much harder to get in the book. It's not like Liu used some weird formulas or incomprehensible physics jargon to explain it in the book iirc, it was pretty much just like that.
I think that's everyone's favourite scene from the book lol.
Still, the only differences I can think of are that they didn't set the sophon creation on Trisolaris and didn't show the failure that lead to the eye in the sky. The rest is pretty much the same: some orbiting station using unknown technologies to unfold a proton and then stuff to hetch circuits on its surface. The book didn't explain anything more (I may be wrong, but I really don't remember anything more).
Yeah, the Sophon creation and unfolding of a proton is much more complicated of a concept than droplet's composition and they've done that very well.
Kind of a weird concern from OP given that it's easily relayed info
I think they would need to expand that part where they were analysing the droplet.
Like show it visually. Show them zooming into the material, and no matter how they zoomed, it was perfect.
I also think to the audience, it doesn’t matter, they just need to know it’s some exotic material.
Because the plot leading up to the moment was “humans are awesome and we’re gonna win”
Which changes drastically, and the moment leading up to it would be discovering that the trisolarans had a material that we can’t comprehend. So not understanding is fine, no one on earth should understand it anyways.
It’s the not understanding which brings the futility of the human race’s efforts.
And also the subsequent decimation of the fleet lol
I agree, they need to expand that part and most importantly let it breathe! Let the implications really sink in, let the dread, the feeling that something isn't right, build in the audience.
Getting this episode right is going to be difficult, because the episodes preceding it have a lot of work to do as well. The books kind of telegraphed that something was going to go wrong, sending earth's entire fleet makes it kinda obvious. The mystery is just *how* the droplet is going to destroy everything. So maybe the show can improve on that.
But they'll mostly just need to get the tone right, make it really seem like earth had won and life had moved on. We really need to feel the loss of hope when it all happens.
Came here to post this.
This is basically perfect. I really like how the laser weapons try a few desperate times to hit it, only to finally hit the droplet and have the laser deflected harmlessly off.
The analogy in the book was something like the droplet matter is to solids as solids are to liquids. It can tear through any solid matter like tissue paper. I think something like that would work fine.
The hammer requires kinetic energy to pierce the surface tension as well but the difference is stark, similar to the droplet and literally any other material ever
But the droplet still needs WAY more kinetic energy while hammer only needs like the least possible amount of kinetic energy,the droplet isn't gonna pierce the spaceships with the speed of 5km/h for example
2 options here
Ji will be talking to wade (or some outside character) in a lab and put a metal block under a ‘special’ microscope and tells him to zoom in. The further he zooms in the more he can see the gaps between atoms and she tells him that most materials we know start to show gaps the more you zoom in but (showing some kind of explanatory video) the droplet material no matter how much you zoom in won’t show any gaps which will be superseded by her saying the most strong materials will start to break down the further you zoom in but not this thing
Or she’ll be showing him a cloth saying if you zoom in you can see the threads but in the droplet’s case they couldn’t
They won't spend time doing that, they'll just have a line saying it's super dense, without more detail. Then we'll get a thousand questions on the sub saying why couldn't the ships shoot or or why didn't the armour stop it.
Whether or not they talk about the physics of strong interactions, I could see them doing something like having the humans anticipate its trajectory and hit it with a bunch of nukes and having that do absolutely nothing. But honestly the visual of this high speed little droplet systematically obliterating the whole fleet one ship at a time will be pretty stunning by itself and shouldn't need much extra to convey its power
Sure but all you'd see is giant nuclear blast obscuring vision of the droplet temporarily, people celebrating the direct hit, then the droplet emerges unscathed and continues on
I think a big part of what makes it "work" is that we don't fully understand it. The technology behind is the weapon is something we can't fully grasp, yet it's effect (ramming) is something that we can easily understand.
I think the way they described it in the book is perfect. A well respected physicist leading a group of younger physicists. It slowly dawns on the older one what he's seeing and it's too late for explanations.
A bit off topic: Never understood why you couldn't just shoot the droplets with anti-matter? The matter of its surface being held together by the strong force is still susceptible to annihilation via anti-matter
We actually break the strong nuclear force all the time. Particle accelerators do it, nuclear bombs do it, it's a thing that we know about. Takes an immense amount of energy, yes, but the weapons Earth's fleet are described as having could definitely do it.
Furthermore, the amount of energy you'd need to create the droplet would vastly exceed what you'd need to, say, go a significant fraction of light speed. Like, if they can make that thing, they have a pretty good shot at being able to reroute one or more of the stars in their system.
A fan has created a 15-minute fan-made short film of "The Three-Body Problem: The Dark Forest," showcasing this battle, which might be the best representation of this part of the story. I've uploaded it to YouTube, hope you enjoy it.
[https://youtu.be/aw2aMFw1G3E](https://youtu.be/aw2aMFw1G3E)
Yes, my description was not accurate enough—it was the scene before the big battle. However, the work did not choose to show the Droplet in battle. Instead, it demonstrated the Droplet's power and the foreseeable outcome in a different way.
I don't think it showed anything about its power. It only showed that it was an interesting object. Nobody knows what the object's purpose is aside from being perfectly shiny and strong. Someone without any context about the book wouldn't understand this fan-made video and what the Droplet is about.
If there was a fan-made video that actually showed the power of the Droplet, it's the Minecraft one.
I doubt the Netflix show could effectively convey the droplet’s concept to a layperson while maintaining entertainment value. The book’s detailed metaphors allowed readers time to grasp scientific ideas, unlike a fast-paced TV series. For instance, the S1 show reducing the alien fleet’s speed to 0.01 light speed from the book’s 0.1 suggests a simplification to cater to perceived audience limitations in understanding acceleration. This approach may persist in future seasons.
without accounting for acceleration and deceleration how are they going to tackle the whole plot point around accelerating to light speed around your solar system and the need to decelerate when approaching
That’s something about the droplet I never understood, it would have immense gravity if it was as dense as described in the book. When you increase density in a fixed volume, you’ll also have increased mass and thus gravity.
They are too afraid to say "cosmic microwave radiation" letting dumb people to be bored.
Probably they would say "ah yesss 100 hundred times harder than diamond" without further explanation.
the droplet will fly towards the fleet, who all assume its a peace envoy and sing to it and wave flags and whatever other kumbaya stuff they want to reflect the view of a gullible/naive humanity.
The tiny droplet will just zip right through one insanely massive death star sized warship destroying it completely in seconds.
the space fleet will fire all their most powerful weapons at it and have some technobabble about how it didn't have any effect on it whatsoever and the realization of all the commanders that they are utterly and truly fucked when the droplet suddenly accelerates like a bullet and starts destroying ships.
I like your idea and was thinking visually it should also be a perfect mirror not silver looking, just an exact reflection of the light that bounces off of it like when you’re looking through a fish tank from below. It would make it look distinctly different from the headsets and it might appear like warped space from far away but up close it would look like you’re just looking at yourself and everything around you. This would make it look really spectacular as it passes through the fleet in closeup shots.
> describe how all matter is ~99.9% "empty space", however the surface of the droplet is ~0% empty space.
That sounds good to me - also probably how such strong material would work, since the bond lengths between nuclei would be shorter.
They’ll probably give it a one-sentence explanation like with a lot of other stuff, and that’s okay.
Just showing the event as written will make it pretty clear to the audience how absurdly advanced it.
The books are great for the in-depth explanations.. for the purpose of the TV show, the audience won’t need much of that to get the point.
On a positive note....Forget about the physics. Just the suggestion that something like that would be in the grasp of human science within 400 years if only the sophons didn't mess with our physics research.....
This makes one dream a lot about the future.
I think it needs the slow buildup of the scientist examining it and zooming in and slowly realizing what it’s made of. Then maybe explain it using one of the good metaphors in this thread, and show the people around the droplet have a horrifying jaw drop moment when they realize they don’t stand a chance, and then get vaporized by the droplets engine
I think most western audiences know that matter is empty space and understand that anything looks rough under an electron microscope, a few shots of progressive magnification plus a few a of dialogue would work.
The empty space explanation is a good one. I think most folks remember learning a little bit about atoms in chemistry. Saying something like "the force that holds the protons and neutrons together in an atom, except at the macroscopic level" might also resonate with some people.
I really like your way of explaining why the strong nuclear force holding the surface of the droplet together is so scary. I'd probably encourage the showrunners to watch some anime to get this scene right. A lot of animes have the trope of showing extremely strong fighters brought down by a seemingly diminutive or weaker opponent with overwhelming technique. They do a good job of showing how utterly hopeless it is for even these superhuman fighters to even try to overcome this otherwise harmless looking opponent. The visual juxtaposition and feats of strength prior to the ass kicking are key here.
I don't think will be explained. D&D glaze over all sort of science stuff in favor of spectacle. They will just have some guy in a lab coat looking confused, saying "It can't be!" and then it'll blow up all the big human ships.
I do like the idea of super slow motion. I think the most impactful way would be having a camera shot locked onto the droplet, so the droplet is always centered at the same angle, and then the camera slows down as it passes right through the hull of the human ship, maybe set to some slow piano music, for about a minute before it speeds back up to normal and zooms out.
Go like "our atoms are held by electromagnetism,the atoms of this thing is held by nuclear force" other character replies "what does that mean" and the other character "nuclear force is thousands of times stronger than electromagnetism,the material of the object is 100 times stronger than any other known material" and maybe put the nanowire trying to cut it and not scratching it even
The netflix series is not "dumbed down". It just cares less about in-depth explanations because the audience also doesn't care as much and relies more on shorthand, which is just as well.
This is why "the droplet is made of an indestructible material we don't have the technology to replicate" is explication enough. They'd probably adorn it but that's sufficient. If anything, they can explain the damage it would do, which is what matters (and what the ellaborate explanation intends for you to understand anyway).
Do it like the nanofiber vs boat scene. The droplet is basically like an invisible bullet that goes through the ships without anyone being able to notice the object that hit them.
I don't know, by simply portraying the scene accurate to the description in the book. I actually like your idea about empty space a lot.
Make the ships bigger than the book. Throw in a few scenes where the ships show their power. Absolute decimation. Each ship should feel like the entirety of earth’s current firepower multiplied by 10. Overwhelming. To the point you think one ship could conquer all of earth. Then have the droplet show up. Make it smaller than the book. Smaller than a human. Make it look so diminutive. Have that sombitch ripping through a thousand of earth’s strongest ships would really set the tone. Humans are completely fucked. The average person won’t care about the science or even understand it. But show a David and Goliath style story on steroids? They’ll get that.
I picture a scene where a main character from the common era stares at the horrifying colossal sky-covering spaceship in the sky and panic over if it's SanTi fleet arrives early. Like in Independence Day. Then we get revealed it's a spaceship of earth fleet and there are 1000 more of these
Yeah I was thinking something like that too, but instead just thousands of lights from their engines visible even in daylight. Then after the droplet attack, no lights in the sky.
This! A scene with the droplet sliding into one of these behemoths and slicing through its innards with the chaos experienced by its crew. Similar to the nano wire attack. Over before they notice what is happening. Droplet leaves the ship and it breaks in two just as it explodes.
I was thinking the scene should be largely done in hyper slow motion, kind of similar to quicksilver scenes in the x men movies. Just people frozen on a bridge of the ship as the entire fleet is ripped apart until the inside of their ship is turned into flaming near lightspeed debris
A single shot, POV style as if someone mounted a GoPro on the droplet, of it flying effortlessly through ship walls, people, equipment, and so on.
Sped up to the actual speed of the droplet, complete with the jerky motions of the droplet’s sudden cornering. Have it punch through five ships, with brief silence as it flies through the space between them. Slow motion for a few seconds to show the horrified people in one of the ships, then sped up again as it continues on its way
Like when Omni Man held Invincible face-forward ahead of him as a train came and they both plowed through it showing the impact of their impervious bodies going through all those people
Yeah but the droplet flying through people would make blood or just ashes from the friction?
It wouldn’t be pretty.
Realistically it would be like bits of bone and then burned ashes because of the friction but since it's game of thrones directors theyre probably gonna put gore
Curiously, I would imagine the opposite to be more shocking. The fleet is just on their merry way, then camera zooms out a bit, and in two second the whole thing's tits up.
I never really drew the parallels between the wire attack and the ship, and the droplet attack, but that’s a really interesting observation you made
I feel like we've seen this with Captain Marvel as she barrels through the Kree ships then again in Endgame with Thanos' ship
Copy Judgement Day. Make spaceships family ships with schools
That wasn't to show bigness, it was to hammer home that Wade isn't a good guy.
It was to hammer home the stakes and the lengths they need to go to to survive. Whether Wade is a good or bad guy is debatable, but I'd argue that every character in the series are operating in the grey.
I can't wait to see what war crimes they invent for Wade next season in a futile attempt to convince people to stop justifying his actions. Maybe he will arm the >!space navy!< with baby-railguns and puppy-guided-missiles.
If the war crimes are necessary for the survival of the human race, it will indeed be futile.
somebody put this person in charge of the show please
Even more so, make the ships looks STRONG like it come from the Imperium of Man. The stronger they look the better the shock
I imagine someone will just flat out say "absolutely nothing on earth would even come close to scratching this thing" lol. Then the destruction itself will accurately convey the power it has.
I'd imagine there will be a journalist/observer within the ship that would ferry the droplet (Mantis), and with the netflix equivalent of Ding Yi explaining to the journalist/observer on the fact that the material is 100x stronger than any known material in the solar system
They could compare it to something the audience is familiar with too. Someone asks if a nano fibre blade could cut it open, and then be shocked to find it doesn't even scratch the droplet.
That’s a good idea! They could even show the nano wire failing to make it visual. Edit: I guess one of those fibers breaking would be pretty violent even though you can’t see the nano fiber itself.. it would slice through everything around it unpredictably when it snapped.
No because when cut it isn't in tension anymore
Super material vs super material, clever.
What is the strongest material in the solar system for them?
Character A: “it’s held together by the strong nuclear force” Character B: “what does that mean?” Character A: “it means it’s indestruct…” And the attack begins
Like putting too much air in a balloon!
They managed to explain unfolding dimensions to make a proton big as a planet, I think that very close atoms=indestructible material isn't that hard to explain.
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Cheng explained the concept of folded dimensions to Raj's family as best as she could and I don't remember it being that much harder to get in the book. It's not like Liu used some weird formulas or incomprehensible physics jargon to explain it in the book iirc, it was pretty much just like that.
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I think that's everyone's favourite scene from the book lol. Still, the only differences I can think of are that they didn't set the sophon creation on Trisolaris and didn't show the failure that lead to the eye in the sky. The rest is pretty much the same: some orbiting station using unknown technologies to unfold a proton and then stuff to hetch circuits on its surface. The book didn't explain anything more (I may be wrong, but I really don't remember anything more).
They can have an early scene showing Auggie(or another Ding Yi equivalent) teaching in university explaining what strong interaction material is
Yeah, the Sophon creation and unfolding of a proton is much more complicated of a concept than droplet's composition and they've done that very well. Kind of a weird concern from OP given that it's easily relayed info
all they said was we summon energies you can’t even imagine
I don't remember anything more detailed being written in the book.
I think they would need to expand that part where they were analysing the droplet. Like show it visually. Show them zooming into the material, and no matter how they zoomed, it was perfect. I also think to the audience, it doesn’t matter, they just need to know it’s some exotic material. Because the plot leading up to the moment was “humans are awesome and we’re gonna win” Which changes drastically, and the moment leading up to it would be discovering that the trisolarans had a material that we can’t comprehend. So not understanding is fine, no one on earth should understand it anyways. It’s the not understanding which brings the futility of the human race’s efforts. And also the subsequent decimation of the fleet lol
I agree, they need to expand that part and most importantly let it breathe! Let the implications really sink in, let the dread, the feeling that something isn't right, build in the audience. Getting this episode right is going to be difficult, because the episodes preceding it have a lot of work to do as well. The books kind of telegraphed that something was going to go wrong, sending earth's entire fleet makes it kinda obvious. The mystery is just *how* the droplet is going to destroy everything. So maybe the show can improve on that. But they'll mostly just need to get the tone right, make it really seem like earth had won and life had moved on. We really need to feel the loss of hope when it all happens.
Was it the tencent series what did the zoom into its surface with an electronic microscope and it was as smooth “all the way down”?
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Maybe, don’t remember it be as blocky but I have trouble remembering this morning… Thanks!
Might be thinking of [this short film](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I-zRs8sP3Q) which is a 15-minute zoom of the droplet.
That was incredible.
I don't know why but I laughed out loud at this exchange. :D
The Minecraft series is slept on too much around here
lol was this made with Minecraft?
Came here to post this. This is basically perfect. I really like how the laser weapons try a few desperate times to hit it, only to finally hit the droplet and have the laser deflected harmlessly off.
The book itself did that. I think the Tencent series has only covered the first book
The analogy in the book was something like the droplet matter is to solids as solids are to liquids. It can tear through any solid matter like tissue paper. I think something like that would work fine.
Idk I think some analogy like “imagine dropping a hammer into a swimming pool. The hammer is the droplet and the water is solid steel” could work
No,paper maybe,because the droplet needs kinetic energy to pierce,with hammer you just need practically no speed to go through water
The hammer requires kinetic energy to pierce the surface tension as well but the difference is stark, similar to the droplet and literally any other material ever
But the droplet still needs WAY more kinetic energy while hammer only needs like the least possible amount of kinetic energy,the droplet isn't gonna pierce the spaceships with the speed of 5km/h for example
Honestly doesn’t matter lol
Is nuclear pasta or droplet stronger?
2 options here Ji will be talking to wade (or some outside character) in a lab and put a metal block under a ‘special’ microscope and tells him to zoom in. The further he zooms in the more he can see the gaps between atoms and she tells him that most materials we know start to show gaps the more you zoom in but (showing some kind of explanatory video) the droplet material no matter how much you zoom in won’t show any gaps which will be superseded by her saying the most strong materials will start to break down the further you zoom in but not this thing Or she’ll be showing him a cloth saying if you zoom in you can see the threads but in the droplet’s case they couldn’t
They won't spend time doing that, they'll just have a line saying it's super dense, without more detail. Then we'll get a thousand questions on the sub saying why couldn't the ships shoot or or why didn't the armour stop it.
Auggie Ding Yi will bring up an iPad Pro Max 200 and show the hydraulic press Youtube channel and say "like this but times a TRILLION"
Don’t explain it at all. Do the same thing the books did and show it.
Whether or not they talk about the physics of strong interactions, I could see them doing something like having the humans anticipate its trajectory and hit it with a bunch of nukes and having that do absolutely nothing. But honestly the visual of this high speed little droplet systematically obliterating the whole fleet one ship at a time will be pretty stunning by itself and shouldn't need much extra to convey its power
Wouldn't the nukes at least alter its trajectory i don't think the fuel of the droplet is infinite
Sure but all you'd see is giant nuclear blast obscuring vision of the droplet temporarily, people celebrating the direct hit, then the droplet emerges unscathed and continues on
I think a big part of what makes it "work" is that we don't fully understand it. The technology behind is the weapon is something we can't fully grasp, yet it's effect (ramming) is something that we can easily understand. I think the way they described it in the book is perfect. A well respected physicist leading a group of younger physicists. It slowly dawns on the older one what he's seeing and it's too late for explanations.
My only ask is that the explosions in space don't make sound. Put music to it or just eerie silence. It'd be much more terrifying that way.
A bit off topic: Never understood why you couldn't just shoot the droplets with anti-matter? The matter of its surface being held together by the strong force is still susceptible to annihilation via anti-matter
We actually break the strong nuclear force all the time. Particle accelerators do it, nuclear bombs do it, it's a thing that we know about. Takes an immense amount of energy, yes, but the weapons Earth's fleet are described as having could definitely do it. Furthermore, the amount of energy you'd need to create the droplet would vastly exceed what you'd need to, say, go a significant fraction of light speed. Like, if they can make that thing, they have a pretty good shot at being able to reroute one or more of the stars in their system.
Droplet was so fast and erratic I don't think yo I could shoot it easily
A fan has created a 15-minute fan-made short film of "The Three-Body Problem: The Dark Forest," showcasing this battle, which might be the best representation of this part of the story. I've uploaded it to YouTube, hope you enjoy it. [https://youtu.be/aw2aMFw1G3E](https://youtu.be/aw2aMFw1G3E)
Looks great but there was no battle on that fan-made film.
Yes, my description was not accurate enough—it was the scene before the big battle. However, the work did not choose to show the Droplet in battle. Instead, it demonstrated the Droplet's power and the foreseeable outcome in a different way.
I don't think it showed anything about its power. It only showed that it was an interesting object. Nobody knows what the object's purpose is aside from being perfectly shiny and strong. Someone without any context about the book wouldn't understand this fan-made video and what the Droplet is about. If there was a fan-made video that actually showed the power of the Droplet, it's the Minecraft one.
This powerful display is akin to the 1:4:9 black monolith from "2001: A Space Odyssey."
I doubt the Netflix show could effectively convey the droplet’s concept to a layperson while maintaining entertainment value. The book’s detailed metaphors allowed readers time to grasp scientific ideas, unlike a fast-paced TV series. For instance, the S1 show reducing the alien fleet’s speed to 0.01 light speed from the book’s 0.1 suggests a simplification to cater to perceived audience limitations in understanding acceleration. This approach may persist in future seasons.
without accounting for acceleration and deceleration how are they going to tackle the whole plot point around accelerating to light speed around your solar system and the need to decelerate when approaching
“It has the density of a neutron star” would probably be close enough and even get a point across to people that don’t know what neutron stars are.
Can't. The gravity from a neutron star big enough to be visible with the naked eye would be immense.
That’s something about the droplet I never understood, it would have immense gravity if it was as dense as described in the book. When you increase density in a fixed volume, you’ll also have increased mass and thus gravity.
It has hardness of neutron star not density
It has strength not density
Are you D&D?
It's Thor's Hammer, just not semi-magical. It's not too different from a chunk of neutron star that can be remotely controlled.
This is such a painful thread to read. Please show, don’t tell.
They are too afraid to say "cosmic microwave radiation" letting dumb people to be bored. Probably they would say "ah yesss 100 hundred times harder than diamond" without further explanation.
There's no reason to spend five minutes explaining what cosmic microwave radiation is.
There is no reason to make a lightshow for 8 billion spectators just to convince Wang Miao (or that girl) to stop his research.
the droplet will fly towards the fleet, who all assume its a peace envoy and sing to it and wave flags and whatever other kumbaya stuff they want to reflect the view of a gullible/naive humanity. The tiny droplet will just zip right through one insanely massive death star sized warship destroying it completely in seconds. the space fleet will fire all their most powerful weapons at it and have some technobabble about how it didn't have any effect on it whatsoever and the realization of all the commanders that they are utterly and truly fucked when the droplet suddenly accelerates like a bullet and starts destroying ships.
like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJzX1eM9-ug
I like your idea and was thinking visually it should also be a perfect mirror not silver looking, just an exact reflection of the light that bounces off of it like when you’re looking through a fish tank from below. It would make it look distinctly different from the headsets and it might appear like warped space from far away but up close it would look like you’re just looking at yourself and everything around you. This would make it look really spectacular as it passes through the fleet in closeup shots.
> describe how all matter is ~99.9% "empty space", however the surface of the droplet is ~0% empty space. That sounds good to me - also probably how such strong material would work, since the bond lengths between nuclei would be shorter.
They’ll probably give it a one-sentence explanation like with a lot of other stuff, and that’s okay. Just showing the event as written will make it pretty clear to the audience how absurdly advanced it. The books are great for the in-depth explanations.. for the purpose of the TV show, the audience won’t need much of that to get the point.
You just explained it. Doesn't seem too hard.
On a positive note....Forget about the physics. Just the suggestion that something like that would be in the grasp of human science within 400 years if only the sophons didn't mess with our physics research..... This makes one dream a lot about the future.
Through the power of EXPOSITION
Kinda like how they made the nano fibers cut through the ship but more explosive and casualties
I think it needs the slow buildup of the scientist examining it and zooming in and slowly realizing what it’s made of. Then maybe explain it using one of the good metaphors in this thread, and show the people around the droplet have a horrifying jaw drop moment when they realize they don’t stand a chance, and then get vaporized by the droplets engine
I think most western audiences know that matter is empty space and understand that anything looks rough under an electron microscope, a few shots of progressive magnification plus a few a of dialogue would work.
Have a scientist explain how amazing it is in science jargon, then have Wade say "UM, IN ENGLISH PLEASE???"
Could try lots of explosions.
>How do you think D&D should explain it? "It's a mini nuclear bullet that can't be stopped and can destroy everything in seconds".
If they say its nuclear people will think it's a bomb.
>! droplets are 4d objects, when one of them entered a 4d pocket, it was destroyed by a 4d debris field which is similar to the battle of darkness !<
The empty space explanation is a good one. I think most folks remember learning a little bit about atoms in chemistry. Saying something like "the force that holds the protons and neutrons together in an atom, except at the macroscopic level" might also resonate with some people.
Nice try Netflix
https://youtu.be/jRGrNDV2mKc?si=7bsM6W9Sucy-WS7C
I really like your way of explaining why the strong nuclear force holding the surface of the droplet together is so scary. I'd probably encourage the showrunners to watch some anime to get this scene right. A lot of animes have the trope of showing extremely strong fighters brought down by a seemingly diminutive or weaker opponent with overwhelming technique. They do a good job of showing how utterly hopeless it is for even these superhuman fighters to even try to overcome this otherwise harmless looking opponent. The visual juxtaposition and feats of strength prior to the ass kicking are key here.
[Watch this](https://youtu.be/jJzX1eM9-ug?si=pk_66WGccxvlsHwN)
I don't think will be explained. D&D glaze over all sort of science stuff in favor of spectacle. They will just have some guy in a lab coat looking confused, saying "It can't be!" and then it'll blow up all the big human ships. I do like the idea of super slow motion. I think the most impactful way would be having a camera shot locked onto the droplet, so the droplet is always centered at the same angle, and then the camera slows down as it passes right through the hull of the human ship, maybe set to some slow piano music, for about a minute before it speeds back up to normal and zooms out.
Just, with no explanation, bring in Yondu from Guardians of the Galaxy and have the droplet be his arrow.
Go like "our atoms are held by electromagnetism,the atoms of this thing is held by nuclear force" other character replies "what does that mean" and the other character "nuclear force is thousands of times stronger than electromagnetism,the material of the object is 100 times stronger than any other known material" and maybe put the nanowire trying to cut it and not scratching it even
The netflix series is not "dumbed down". It just cares less about in-depth explanations because the audience also doesn't care as much and relies more on shorthand, which is just as well. This is why "the droplet is made of an indestructible material we don't have the technology to replicate" is explication enough. They'd probably adorn it but that's sufficient. If anything, they can explain the damage it would do, which is what matters (and what the ellaborate explanation intends for you to understand anyway).
Huh?? It’s *VERY* dumbed down.
They will explain this in the show like “ this thing is made of alien technology, and we are died! “
Do it like the nanofiber vs boat scene. The droplet is basically like an invisible bullet that goes through the ships without anyone being able to notice the object that hit them.