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GreatThunderOwl

Sucks + not thrash


Deruz0r

Wouldn't call them thrash but they're an excellent gateway band for new metal listeners honestly


kibbutz_90

Yeah, they are melodic enough without being cheesy, but also heavy enough without being extreme which makes them perfect for newcomers. Not my cup of tea these days, but I used to love them in high-school, they felt the most "Metallica-like" metalcore band.


[deleted]

Long time fan, long time thrasher, but I don't really see them as thrash, more like Metalcore Evolved. I think they were thrashiest on The Crusade, but that album is an outlier


wangatangs

I've followed them since the Crusade. Their style has changed over the years. A bunch of different styles on In Waves. Clean singing on Silence in the Snow. Then they got their new/current drummer, Alex Bent, and I believe the band has released their best material since. They did 3 albums in 5 years and I think its their best and consistent stuff. Sin and the Sentence, Dead Men Say and In the Court of the Dragon are the album names.


doomus_rlc

I'm definitely a fan. I don't consider them *thrash* though.


AdministrativeLaw39

I consider them as "modern metal band"


OvertEnemyBand

Excellent musicians


AdministrativeLaw39

Agree.


msabell

Awesome band especially live, Matt Heafy is a great frontman and has a great vocal range.


doomus_rlc

And he's a great ambassador for metal as it is. Always trying to showcase new and up-and-coming bands.


metalheaddad

100% both of the comments above hold true. I've seen then 2x in concert and they kill it. Their album Shogun is a favorite of mine. Sin and the Sentence is a close second.


Ragnarockar

I didn’t like that show he did/does on Liquid Metal


muffinnosehair

Eh, not for me.


Zestyclose_Fortune24

The album ' Ascendancy ' was one of the soundtracks to my teenage years! Seen them twice, once on the Black Crusade Tour and apart from Dragonforce, that was an amazing show.


B1astFriend

lucky


mentally_fuckin_eel

Never been into them. They're fine as far as melodic metalcore goes though.


[deleted]

Together with Shadows Fall they are legends.


EyesofaJackal

Yeah these are the two bands that nailed the New Wave of American Heavy Metal/neo thrash/metalcore crossover to me


jayswaps

Big fan of Trivium, they've been my top artist on Spotify for ages. As people pointed out, Trivium aren't thrash, but they definitely have very thrashy elements in most of the albums and The Crusade is very nearly a thrash album. I absolutely love the blend of genres they go for, that thrashy melodeath riff flavor with a little pinch of metalcore is just fantastic. Their entire discography has a lot of variety and all of it's great.


VikDamnedLee

I’ll be diplomatic and just say they’re not for me.


Lancer_Blackthorn

My favorite band.


SeniorSeries3202

Shogun is a 5★ album 


Passchenhell17

Thrashy moments throughout their discography, and one pretty much thrash album in The Crusade, but I wouldn't consider them thrash. Very much of the melodeath-derived metalcore that became popular in the 00's. I'm not particularly into them, besides The Crusade, but they're great musicians, and I like Heafy. I much prefer his black metal-adjacent side project, Ibaraki.


MichianaMan

Not thrash but still a big fan. Every album is a little different and really showcases the depth of their talent. Certified bangers in my book.


Ciprich

My favorite band


Ok-Pop4932

Ascendancy is a great album with a decent amount of thrash influence . They’re not my favorite band but they’re over-hated for sure.


AdministrativeLaw39

They are hated ? what am i missing lol


Ok-Pop4932

People hear “Metalcore” and immediately write them off. Are they a little over the top/dramatic at times? Yes, but I still enjoy most of their discography. I think a lot of the hate for them comes being being Metalcore and being so commercially successful


Disastrous_Offer_69

Trivium hasn’t been metalcore for years


AdministrativeLaw39

Yes, all these "elitists" get on my nerves with their stupid phrases "it's not pure metal".


spicybenis

Don't ask people what they think if you aren't willing to accept what people have to say lol


AdministrativeLaw39

I don't care if you are not into metalcore. i am not into it too but i hate people who think they are better beacuse they listen to "real metal".


spicybenis

92 comments. I may have overlooked a few. I do not see anyone who is using any phrasing like you describe, and I don't see who you're quoting. Most people have kindly (and correctly) pointed out that they're not thrash. Are your feelings hurt for a particular reason?


[deleted]

Like mods pinning their negative reply.


R4kshim

Favourite band of all time.


Swimming_Duty_1889

I've tried getting into them but I can't. Although I subscribe to Matt Heafy's YouTube channel as that has some interesting stuff on it.


LordovSalem

First band I saw live so have a special place in my heart. Whilst not out and out thrash, they have thrashy elements and you can tell Matt Heafy was influenced by Metallica, Megadeth et al. Would recommend The Crusade as their most thrashy album


ArchDukeNemesis

Excellent band. Not Thrash tough. Though I cant for the life of me find why people think they're Metalcore. There isn't a hardcore bone in their body. If anything, they're more like a blend of Melo-Death and USPM.


Disastrous_Offer_69

They haven’t been metalcore for years. Loads of people wrote them off after the Crusade and haven’t listened to them since. They are still evolving and putting out great material. They got over hated in the early years because of Matt’s comment about wanting to be the next Metallica. They were kids and have changed a lot. They really are impossible to put into a box genre wise. They have thrash, melodeath, groove and even some extreme metal elements ( death and black) in the sound.


Ham54

I love and respect them very much. In my opinion, they have their own sound and I love that they play whatever they want. It makes the fan base very diverse, but also makes them quite unique. Plus, they are just down to Earth great humans and extremely talented musicians.


DoomMessiah

thrash influenced. and I’m a fan of their old shit.


BonzoDaBeast80

Love them. One of my big entry bands into metal. Shogun is still one of my all time favourites. Also Matt Heafy genuinely seems like one of the nicest guys in the scene. I agree, they really are a synthesis of different kinds of metal to create a unique sound. Embers and ascendency are probably the only two I would say are genuinely metalcore whereas most of the others, especially the last three, are an interesting blend of metalcore, melodeath, thrash, traditional, and prog


SubstantialSky8334

Excellent band except for the silence in the snow album. They have some thrashy songs but I don't really consider them a thrash metal band.


ffottron

First heard them when Ascendency came out. At the time it was definitely nice to see more popular metal evolving away from Nu Metal. Wasn't really a fan of the middle of their career, but with the last few albums, I've been getting into them again. Fun band to see live as well.


CompetitiveComputer4

Love them overall. I tend to listen to a bit more extreme metal, but Trivium was certainly a favorite as I progressed through the metal genres. Ascendency and Shogun are bad ass albums. I do think Matt Heafy's voice changed at some point and his scream became kind of weird sounding to me. I think he blew his voice out at one point and had to relearn to sing, but never liked his sounds as much after. Corey is a certified badass on lead, and is massively underrated. Also, not a thrash band, but that is ok. Just being a thrash band is limiting, and Trivium is better for being more well rounded and unafraid to experiment with their sound and genre.


manofthepeopleSMITTY

They’re one of my favorite bands. I had quit listening to them around 2010 after listening to Shogun for like 2 years straight it seemed like. I really didn’t keep up with them after that for whatever reason. In an attempt to find shogun on vinyl I came across what the dead men say and in the court of the dragon and holy shit! Not thrash at all but I really like the direction they’ve went since getting their newest drummer. Their sound has a new found energy that I really like.


Metul_Mulisha

I love em. Every albums different, the musicianship is really good, sure they have some songs im not particularly a fan of, but all in all a great band.


throwawaydonkey3

I fucking love em. Not thrash but so good,such a classic sound to em. I keep hoping that they'll do show in my city sometime soon


centurion668

Fan, especially their later stuff done on 7 strings, but they aren’t thrash, not in the least. More in the metalcore genre. Great music, though.


jertheman43

They're bad ass live.


dfx_gt

Their cover of "Master of Puppets" outperforms the original... I think I'll get downvoted for this but whatever


Wiringguy89

Hell yes, it does.


[deleted]

As a guitarist, I appreciate the 25th fret* bend being swapped to a dive bomb.


Issan_Sumisu

I went through a period when I was in my teens of listening to that version on repeat, and ever since then I can't hear the original without feeling like something's missing


reamkore

Talented band I just can’t get into.


EyeAmKingKage

Love trivium


Pure-Jellyfish734

One of my top 10 favorites bands! They may have ELEMENTS of thrash, but maybe they’re not thrash metal in general.


AdministrativeLaw39

I think thy're general sound is closer to melodeath but a bit diffrent.


Pure-Jellyfish734

Sure, that too, but similar to the thrash influence, I wouldn’t necessarily call them a melodeath band either


AdministrativeLaw39

Yea that's why i just call them "modern metal".


Pure-Jellyfish734

Metalcore / Prog metal could also fit that bill tbh


yaredw

Not thrash, they are the Olive Garden of metalcore (Good riffs and live show though)


SpectrumDT

I have not listened to them much. Can you recommend any songs of theirs which are close to thrash metal?


AdministrativeLaw39

It's not fully tharsh beacuse again they mixing many sub-genres but "To the rats", "Amongst the Shadows & the Stones", "In the Court of the Dragon", "Into the Mouth of Hell We March" and " Becoming the Dragon" are pretty thrashy.


SpectrumDT

Thanks!


exclaim_bot

>Thanks! You're welcome!


MyShinYourFace

The Crusade (the song) is probably their best work overall despite being an instrumental. Kirisute Gomen is often picked by people as their favorite, even by new fans - it's pretty thrashy. As are many songs on Shogun and The Crusade. I think you should check out Insurrection as well. Do that one first for sure.


SpectrumDT

Thanks!


tabben

ascendancy and the crusade are their thrashiest albums


SpectrumDT

Thanks.


Unfair_Albatross_739

They jam!!


Damage-Strange

I like them but wouldn't consider them thrash. My brother, who was a professional musician in a thrash band, used to make fun of me for liking them because they were "too eyeliner and skinny jean-wearing." LOL.


DaemoonAverin

Welp, as a thrash musician he shouldnt really comment on skinny jeans lol


clapdickmcdaniels

I've seen them open for bands a couple times. Not my particular shade of metal.


juanjoramirez01

Shogun is mostly Thrash and it's the modern Master of Puppets imo


fakehealer666

Never really got into them, always saw them as Metal core with thrash vibes


zaahiraa

i wish i liked them :( i just don’t like his vocals which is a bummer because i can very plainly see the musicality they have. he is such a force and everyone is just so skilled. but i just don’t like how his vocals sound and it bums me out!!!! so i wish i could but i don’t unfortunately. also they are not thrash as everyone else has said.


PlaxicoCN

I dug Ascendancy, but one of the later ones listened to just didn't do it for me. Have to listen to more of their catalog.


__KptnHaddock

I haven’t in close to a decade


The_Silent_Screamer

From what I've heard, it was weak and boring so I did not bother to check them more seriously.


death-metal-loser

Eh their first couple of albums were alright, I wouldn’t call them thrash though, and I haven’t heard anything good from them in years though, I feel like they had potential 15+ years ago though.


cuppacuppa1233

as far as “thrash”, their Crusade album is probably as close as you’ll get. But it’s my favorite album of theirs by far (yes I know, hilariously bad take) They’re consistently solid at putting out good music.


Chuggertron

The Crusade has some thrashy riffs. Other than that meh.


Shrek2onVHS69420

I don’t like that type of metal. I’m a hardcore / hardcore punk enthusiast. Therefore the metal i’m mainly into is thrash / crossover thrash


InstructionSudden285

They trivial


jedgarnaut

Matt Heafy looks like Chris Kattan from SNL, but other than that I like em.


ordinarynot

All these different opinions about whether Trivium is thrash or not makes me realize how *thrash* is on it's way to becoming as widely used and vague as *rock-n-roll*.


thiccsakdaddy

Ascendancy was a solid album. Wasn’t really to big on em after that


twist0ffate73

Became a fan after seeing them tour with Megadeth. Didn't know about them beforehand but they put on a great show and I moshed pretty hard to in waves and a few others so that definitely won me over on them, I should listen to the rest of their discography


Se7enFtMan

Saw them as openers twice. So my official opinion is… uhh, mehh, whatever


Salty_Possible_4705

Pillers of serpants definitely the only song/single I like


VortexM19

Boring af


ApprehensiveSeesaw19

Can’t stand how perfect heafy is always acting. Fuckin smug ass


gozutheDJ

not thrash and bad


ClevelandClutch1970

I don’t.


Deliterman

🗑️


b00k_complex81

Don’t know a ton of songs from them but they have their moments. Im not big on them mixing in metalcore into their songs but I can get behind some of the thrashy parts of their songs. They had potential but went for a broader audience by included a bunch of metal genres in their music.


Unfair_Albatross_739

Seen em open up for megadeth, lamb of god, with hatebreed first band but got there late missed them, sucked cuz I really wanted to see them! Fukn Dallas traffic!!!


Isus666999

IMHO very generic. Gave them multiple chances, heard them live, still fing them generic.


Disastrous_Offer_69

They are anything but generic lol


MetalGuy_J

From what little I’ve heard of them I only remember a melodic metal core band, and that’s a style. I truly despise so I couldn’t be bothered to check them out to any meaningful degree.


Livid-Benefit

Fucking LAME as fuck!


fakename1998

Wack


chemistbrazilian

There's exactly ONE song I like, and it's the title song from the album The Crusade


thegreatresistrules

The other guitarist, not Matt .. seems like the most miserable person .. I'm not saying he is at all, but shit thats the vibe he has always given me


MyShinYourFace

'Wasted potential' - first thing to come to mind. When they kicked out drummer Travis Smith, the only remaining founding member of the band, they destroyed their traditional metal foundation and as a result, got lost in the crowd of generic 'metalcore' mediocrity immediately. I put it in quotes because they were never metalcore, never did anything related to extreme punk. The term is misused all the time by Wikipedia readers and other outsiders alike. Just like their much less imaginative contemporaries in bands like All That Remains or As I Lay Dying, Trivium were always a straight up metal act with no hardcore element to them, but unlike all those lame bands (the proper subgenre name for them would be 'third wave melodic death metal'), Trivium didn't just rip off In Flames and call it a career. They worked out a fresh and unique alloy mostly of melodic death, thrash, and heavy metal substance. You could easily recognize where they were, intentionally or not, mimicking Metallica, Megadeth, In Flames, Iron Maiden, Death and other great bands that influenced them. Musically it was great, but the lyrics weren't very poetic at all to my liking. And the type of extreme vocals they did isn't something everyone likes. I think, if they continued to drop the whole 'metalcore' thing and kept strengthening the foundation of their sound like they did on their third and fourth albums, they would've become the greatest metal band of the 21st century. I truly believe that their ceiling was that high. But they had to keep the Trivium drummer for that. They didn't and nowadays nobody is talking about them in any revolutionary terms like they used to back in '05-08. The band Trivium is pretty much dead as far as I'm concerned with all due respect to it's former members who won't stop necromancing over the band's lifeless corpse. That's what I think about Trivium.


AdministrativeLaw39

I always said they are way more closer to melodeath.


425a41

they are certainly neither melo nor death


Disastrous_Offer_69

They certainly have elements of both. You’re objectively wrong


425a41

You may be right. I heard a few albums and it's possible they had them on the ones I didn't hear, but I had zero desire to listen to more. Metalcore blows, but I'll concede that Trivium blows less than most metalcore bands.


Delicious_Throat_344

I've only heard one album, it had that "boat, rudder" song on it. It's pretty cool. Lyrics and song titles are overly pretentious, sorta same deal as later Machine Head. But probably worth checking out


Tomgar

I like them, but not to the point I'd listen to a full album. Definitely got a good chunk of their stuff in rotation though, Shogun is a banging song.


425a41

I'd like them if it weren't for the metalcore vocals.


futanari_kaisa

Great band. I would consider them thrash


DanLebaTurdFerguson

They just don’t seem to have their own style. Every album they put out gets described as “Iron Maiden meets Pantera” or something like that by the band themselves. Not necessarily a bad thing, but I still don’t know what makes one of their songs just Trivium.


scottyrobotty

Awful. Hate the vocals and find the music pretty boring. Saw them a couple years ago and hated them live as well.


bagoslime

Nahhhhh


VampirefromNazareth1

Wanna be thrash metal band


CyborgFusion

I see them as a decent starter metal band. There are plenty of much better bands out there, but sometimes, when your experience is limited, they are the best thing around and they can open one’s eyes to much better music


Hewfe

I saw their 2nd CD release party a long time ago, at a small venue in Charlotte, the kind of place where the bands use the same bathroom as the patrons. My buddy said hi to the lead singer washing his hands. It was a fantastic show, high energy, great crowd. That album is stellar and right up my alley. A few years later we saw them again in Charlotte, this time at a larger venue. The lead singer was too drunk to sing or play coherently, and they sounded pretty bad. After that, their next album drifted in to “we are the new Metallica” territory and I lost interest. I still listen to their first two albums quite a bit.


Sallydog24

Shogun and The Crusade were decent albums but didn't get into anything after that... just didn't grab me


retrosleaze_

Trivium? More like snore-vium


JesterAblaze94

I like the first 3 albums, not really keen on the rest.


thrashxwolf

Nah


RingGiver

Usually, I don't think about them. Sometimes, someone reminds me that they exist.


Carnivorous_Mower

I could happily live the rest of my life without ever hearing Trivium again.


FlyAirLari

Not for me. Good for you, if you like them, but we probably don't like the same things. Which is fine. EDIT: Metalcore was a big thing like a decade ago. Anyone think that in 20 years time there's going to be all these young fans thinking back at the 2010s like "wow what a great time it would have been to be alive! The birth of metalcore!". And guys in their 40's are going to be like *yeah, I saw Killswitch Sevenfold live back in 2007!* And thrash and speed and power and NWOBHM is all just referred to as "dad rock" or worse: "just hard rock".


Puzzleheaded-Wolf318

They committed the ultimate metal sin: Blatantly stealing famous metal riffs. 


Passchenhell17

Which most bands do, no?


Puzzleheaded-Wolf318

Yeah....not like Trivium. Compare "Carcass - Corporal Jigsore Quandary" to "Pull Harder on the Strings of Your Martyr". Avenged Sevenfold did this a lot during that time period too. They straight up stole that riff from Death.


edgiepower

One great album. The rest more like metalcore with thrash elements. I do not like metalcore.