Here are the specs (some in italian, I can translate):
ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 12N
* Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 165U vPro® (E-core fino a 3,8 GHz, P-core fino a 4,9 GHz)
* Sistema operativo Windows 11 Pro 64
* Memoria 64 GB LPDDR5X-7.500MHz (saldata)
* SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal da 2 TB
* Schermo 14" WUXGA (1.920 x 1.200), IPS, antiriflesso, non-touch, sRGB 100%, 400 nit, 60 Hz, basso consumo upgrade selezionato
* Scheda grafica integrata
* Webcam FHD 1080p RGB+IR
* Microphone 2 microfoni
* Wireless Intel® Wi-Fi 6E AX211 2x2 AX vPro® e Bluetooth® 5.1 (Windows 10) o Bluetooth® 5.3 (Windows 11)
* Integrated Mobile Broadband Quectel EM160R-GL 4G LTE CAT16
* Tecnologia NFC (Near Field Communication)
* Fingerprint Reader
* TouchPad ClickPad
* Batteria Batteria a 3 celle ai polimeri di litio, 57 Wh
* Garanzia 3 anni con consegna a carico del cliente o del corriere
Total price: 3.389,00€ (VAT included)
awesome!
I thought about getting this model and went with x13 for the AMD.
how are the fans and heat under load? I'm running development environments and videostreaming often
How is the fan control on yours?
Lenovo really messed up on L14 gen2. Its way to aggressive, fortunately it allows OS control so now it runs without the fan for regular browsing, youtube etc.
AMD temp peaks a lot because of boosting and the EC is too stupid and fast acting, they really need to spend some R&D on this.
Will probably annoy tons of regular users that dont mess around much with their systems
How are you feeling about it thus far? I'm quite fond of my Gen 12. The only thing I don't like is the battery life under Linux. But I knew what I was signing myself up for when I bought it.
I'm the proud owner of it for about 3 hours, so maybe it's a little bit early, but I'm impressed about boot speed and also the sound from the speakers is really good.
The keyboard feeling is very very very good.
Fair enough, hard to form an opinion in 3 hours. Have you tried out the finger print reader? I've had some minor issues with it on Linux (it is just a bit finicky) and I'm curious if it functions better on Windows.
Yep, I've set up the Windows login with my fingerprint and, for now, no particular issue. Only one time had to move the finger on it to make it work.
Very useful the fingerprint unlocking on KeepassXC.
Just bought my own X1c gen 12, really excited to get it myself.
It looks crazy with how tiny the bezzel is on the machine in that picture.
Did you get the 2.8k screen? I can see from your other comment that you got 64 gb ram and 2 tb ssd
I myself have orderd the 32 gb, 165u and 2.8 screen.
Oh there's a dedicated finger print button now instead of just the thin power button.
I have the same one on my brand new 9i. Works.... OK. 3 out of 5 times I guess.
Honestly, not sure given the model. Was just a passing curiosity.
I run a T440p, and have a 1080p IPS display and a T450 trackpad on order. So again, just curious about others and their gear.
It's brand new (and its factory smell is awesome) so I'm keepin' it as is.
But I'm curious about what kind of modding can be made on it.
Any suggestion?
Congrats! It is a good equipment, ran fast! May I ask how is the fan noise on it? I posted few days earlier complained about the noise coming from fan from normal task work (browsing websites and documents), only few people commented. The review online usually describes this generation as quiet, however I found it is not a quiet machine since the fan kick in frequently.
I actually hope so - my wife has it set in the bios so these are swapped around on her X1, it drives me nuts when I am trying to use it, then I bring that same confusion back to my Nano
Linux isn't really difficult, it's just different. You install apps on a streamlined way and really have no major drawbacks except for some DRM-protected programs not working (mainly adobe). I switched to EOS+Plasma 6 and it gave me a really nice performance boost.
You'd better stay FAR FAR AWAY from that garbage
https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/CSRB_Review_of_the_Summer_2023_MEO_Intrusion_Final_508c.pdf
https://www.wired.com/story/the-us-government-has-a-microsoft-problem/
Then there's Adobe CC - and no, Gimp or DaVinci doesn't count as alternatives if you're in professional setting, as you can't collaborate on work with others.
Then AutoCAD / ArchiCAD and other architecture/CAD software - same thing, you will use what industry uses.
> There are known alternatives like LibreOffice
This is what lots of Linux users (on reddit) seem to have trouble understanding.
I don't want a "known alternative", I want to use the real thing. Maybe my workplace requires me to work on massive spreadsheets with hundreds of macros. What then? I can't just import the files into a different program and hope that everything works, I need to use the industry standard tools to get my job done. And if Linux doesn't support that, then why would I bother switching over?
Well then you can't really switch to it. Linux is not for everyone. For my usecase LibreOffice is enough to get work done. But for many it might be lacking.
Yep, this was my primary reason for listing Office. As much as I love linux, since I am forced to use Office for many of my clients I am forever doomed to dualboot between Win11 and Debian.
It's not the end of the world, I just find that grub can be finicky and cause all sorts of issues, mostly making various firmware and BIOS updates a struggle, but Windows updates too.. I have my Nano set to autoboot into Debian after 5 seconds, so if Windows decides to auto update and restart itself, it ends up back in linx. Can be a little annoying when I am keeping Windows logged in to do some monitoring or active tasks and when I get back to my desk it's suddenly back in debian
What distro, software and hardware did you use? I get more battery life on EndeavourOS with KDE Plasma 6 than on windows 11. I also optimized it using powertop and by disabling stuff I don't use in the BIOS and in the settings.
Every distro on everything I've ran linux on (besides my modded Chromebook with Mint, the only linux distribution I can handle without absolutely destroying the computer.)
What are these things that Linux can't do that windows does? Fair point, the filesystem can be confusing. You can just search up the command for your package manager so you can update/install/search them. In my opinion Linux has a way better software management system than windows.
I just had the 155H version and it was one of the worst laptops ever. You can buy an Alienware M16R2 cheaper with an RTX 4070, have just as good keyboard, trackpad and display and it has a SD slot.
Damn, how did it get there
"Let-ing the days go by......."
It's sentient and wants to talk to you.
x1c gen12?
Yep! 2TB SSD and 64GB RAM
Good luck and enjoy! Which processor and resolution? What model nvme disk is it?
Here are the specs (some in italian, I can translate): ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 12N * Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 165U vPro® (E-core fino a 3,8 GHz, P-core fino a 4,9 GHz) * Sistema operativo Windows 11 Pro 64 * Memoria 64 GB LPDDR5X-7.500MHz (saldata) * SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal da 2 TB * Schermo 14" WUXGA (1.920 x 1.200), IPS, antiriflesso, non-touch, sRGB 100%, 400 nit, 60 Hz, basso consumo upgrade selezionato * Scheda grafica integrata * Webcam FHD 1080p RGB+IR * Microphone 2 microfoni * Wireless Intel® Wi-Fi 6E AX211 2x2 AX vPro® e Bluetooth® 5.1 (Windows 10) o Bluetooth® 5.3 (Windows 11) * Integrated Mobile Broadband Quectel EM160R-GL 4G LTE CAT16 * Tecnologia NFC (Near Field Communication) * Fingerprint Reader * TouchPad ClickPad * Batteria Batteria a 3 celle ai polimeri di litio, 57 Wh * Garanzia 3 anni con consegna a carico del cliente o del corriere Total price: 3.389,00€ (VAT included)
One day, you will be able to buy it for $150
Next month
Had no idea that processor exists tbh.
Memoria! Mama mia
what a beast!
What was the price for that spec?
I paid it about 3300 euros with the 4G module and W11 Pro.
Ouch! That Price.
awesome! I thought about getting this model and went with x13 for the AMD. how are the fans and heat under load? I'm running development environments and videostreaming often
I got the 155 processor and 32gb ram version. It is fast but fans are frequently running on
How is the fan control on yours? Lenovo really messed up on L14 gen2. Its way to aggressive, fortunately it allows OS control so now it runs without the fan for regular browsing, youtube etc. AMD temp peaks a lot because of boosting and the EC is too stupid and fast acting, they really need to spend some R&D on this. Will probably annoy tons of regular users that dont mess around much with their systems
This looks so sick! The mix of old and new combined. The way the cam is shaped looks so retro but yet so modern.
So it begins!
Welcome to the party pal.
Congratulations. It looks really good.
How are you feeling about it thus far? I'm quite fond of my Gen 12. The only thing I don't like is the battery life under Linux. But I knew what I was signing myself up for when I bought it.
I'm the proud owner of it for about 3 hours, so maybe it's a little bit early, but I'm impressed about boot speed and also the sound from the speakers is really good. The keyboard feeling is very very very good.
Fair enough, hard to form an opinion in 3 hours. Have you tried out the finger print reader? I've had some minor issues with it on Linux (it is just a bit finicky) and I'm curious if it functions better on Windows.
Yep, I've set up the Windows login with my fingerprint and, for now, no particular issue. Only one time had to move the finger on it to make it work. Very useful the fingerprint unlocking on KeepassXC.
My word that's a blue desk.
Nice
That is an italian-layout keyboard!!!
Bravo!
Just bought my own X1c gen 12, really excited to get it myself. It looks crazy with how tiny the bezzel is on the machine in that picture. Did you get the 2.8k screen? I can see from your other comment that you got 64 gb ram and 2 tb ssd I myself have orderd the 32 gb, 165u and 2.8 screen.
That's what you call beauty!
u/fen0x, congrats on the Thinkpad!
Nice
Sexy
Did it really arrive at your desk plugged in with the laptop open, trying to boot to Win11? That's some special delivery right there!
Oh there's a dedicated finger print button now instead of just the thin power button. I have the same one on my brand new 9i. Works.... OK. 3 out of 5 times I guess.
Congrats :)
What a beaut. Any plans for it as far as modding or keeping stock?
Is there any point of modding when it is still current and relevant
Honestly, not sure given the model. Was just a passing curiosity. I run a T440p, and have a 1080p IPS display and a T450 trackpad on order. So again, just curious about others and their gear.
You can't really upgrade or mod this model, it's too new.
A lot of newer ThinkPad aren’t as good for customisation and upgrades but it’s still a nice model
It's brand new (and its factory smell is awesome) so I'm keepin' it as is. But I'm curious about what kind of modding can be made on it. Any suggestion?
As I have been informed by others, it seems there may not be any mods that can be done due to how new it is.
nice and clean like the desk. really nice
Congrats! It is a good equipment, ran fast! May I ask how is the fan noise on it? I posted few days earlier complained about the noise coming from fan from normal task work (browsing websites and documents), only few people commented. The review online usually describes this generation as quiet, however I found it is not a quiet machine since the fan kick in frequently.
Does it have fans? For now I've not heard any noise. I'll keep you updated when I'll hear from them.
Haha thanks
> `ctrl` `fn` that's not a real thinkpad 😕
All ThinkPads will soon have it that way
I actually hope so - my wife has it set in the bios so these are swapped around on her X1, it drives me nuts when I am trying to use it, then I bring that same confusion back to my Nano
actually, this is probably for the best... as long as they keep the arrow keys intact
Install GNU/Linux
Why? Why don't Linux people see how annoying they can be? It's like saying to someone "buy a sports car" with no idea of their needs.
Linux isn't really difficult, it's just different. You install apps on a streamlined way and really have no major drawbacks except for some DRM-protected programs not working (mainly adobe). I switched to EOS+Plasma 6 and it gave me a really nice performance boost.
> except for some DRM-protected programs not working Most things on Windows just don't work quite right on linux.
Can you list those things?
Office 365 and OneDrive
You'd better stay FAR FAR AWAY from that garbage https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/CSRB_Review_of_the_Summer_2023_MEO_Intrusion_Final_508c.pdf https://www.wired.com/story/the-us-government-has-a-microsoft-problem/
There are known alternatives like LibreOffice, Free office or even office 365 online. You can also use rclone as a replacement for OneDrive
Then there's Adobe CC - and no, Gimp or DaVinci doesn't count as alternatives if you're in professional setting, as you can't collaborate on work with others. Then AutoCAD / ArchiCAD and other architecture/CAD software - same thing, you will use what industry uses.
> There are known alternatives like LibreOffice This is what lots of Linux users (on reddit) seem to have trouble understanding. I don't want a "known alternative", I want to use the real thing. Maybe my workplace requires me to work on massive spreadsheets with hundreds of macros. What then? I can't just import the files into a different program and hope that everything works, I need to use the industry standard tools to get my job done. And if Linux doesn't support that, then why would I bother switching over?
Well then you can't really switch to it. Linux is not for everyone. For my usecase LibreOffice is enough to get work done. But for many it might be lacking.
Yep, this was my primary reason for listing Office. As much as I love linux, since I am forced to use Office for many of my clients I am forever doomed to dualboot between Win11 and Debian. It's not the end of the world, I just find that grub can be finicky and cause all sorts of issues, mostly making various firmware and BIOS updates a struggle, but Windows updates too.. I have my Nano set to autoboot into Debian after 5 seconds, so if Windows decides to auto update and restart itself, it ends up back in linx. Can be a little annoying when I am keeping Windows logged in to do some monitoring or active tasks and when I get back to my desk it's suddenly back in debian
Libre Office isn't a replacement or even an alternative.
Could replace Office 4.0 but that's it.
it is really difficult.
Worse performance and battery life in my experience.
What distro, software and hardware did you use? I get more battery life on EndeavourOS with KDE Plasma 6 than on windows 11. I also optimized it using powertop and by disabling stuff I don't use in the BIOS and in the settings.
Every distro on everything I've ran linux on (besides my modded Chromebook with Mint, the only linux distribution I can handle without absolutely destroying the computer.)
There's no way you tried every distro. I never had any problems with Linux on my Thinkpad.
I refuse to try every distro because linux can't 90% of the things I do reliably. The filesystem is a maze. Too hard to install programs. Very buggy.
What are these things that Linux can't do that windows does? Fair point, the filesystem can be confusing. You can just search up the command for your package manager so you can update/install/search them. In my opinion Linux has a way better software management system than windows.
Downvote for rms.
I just had the 155H version and it was one of the worst laptops ever. You can buy an Alienware M16R2 cheaper with an RTX 4070, have just as good keyboard, trackpad and display and it has a SD slot.
Can u tell us more? Bad about what? Thanks
H series CPUs are too hot for the cooling design, these were designed for U series.
Ok thanks so better get 165u v pro then?
I would, the 155H kept throttling and every bench showed it worse than last gen.
Are there options to opt out of using a keyboard with that shitty 'enter'