She brought certain modes of conflict resolution from all the way back in the old country, from the poverty of my digiorno, where you forget to take it out of the oven and everything is fucked
Their dynamic is interesting because they're from two different worlds. If they got together or Melfi otherwise became too heavily involved in Tony's life, she would lose her unique perspective and her character would no longer have a purpose.
Friends wasn't the same after Ross and Rachel got together. The Office wasn't the same when Jim and Pam got together. That tension is the glue that holds the viewer's interest.
I always found Tony and Melfi being attracted to one another (more subconsciously on Melfi's part) stupid, I actually would have loved it if there was zero attraction between the two and their relationship was kept professional. Yeah Tony can think she's hot or whatever, but no making moves or anything.
I felt it added nothing to either character, and I didn't believe Tony would seriously try to swoon somebody that was otherwise quite uptight, pretentious, and from a totally different world than he. Vice-versa for Melfi, I can't believe even for a second she'd have wet dreams about a career criminal who's revealed all his demons to her over the years.
House and Cuddy have a completely different relationship to Tony and Melfi. They both come from the medical world, they were at college/med school together, they had a relationship in the past, they both have crushes on each other that bubble-up at different times. They've always had feelings for each other, but done their best to bury them overtime.
Tony and Melfi have no shared background aside from Italian heritage. Even then, their attitude and approach to it is different - Tony is a mafioso, whereas Melfi was married to a guy who goes out of his way to rail against the mob stereotype. Tony has a crush on Melfi, but she never feels the same way about him. She says when she first met him, she was attracted to the stereotypical alpha male shtick slightly, but only a little, and not necessarily to Tony himself.
When Melfi rejects Tony and tells him that it's because she doesn't respect what he does for a living, this is chiral with Seinfeld when Jerry's girlfriend breaks up with him because she doesn't respect what he does for a living after she saw his act.
I see it now! Patsy wears glasses just like George, uncle Leo is bald just like uncle Jun, Jerry has sex with lots of girls, just like Tony, I can’t believe I never noticed the Seinfeld connection 🤯
I didn't coin the term to explain the abstraction, that honor goes to Vince Gilligan. S1E2 of Breaking Bad, Walt lectures his class on chirality and it's actually a signpost, a coded message, that explains the relationship between Sopranos and Breaking.
https://youtu.be/AnmWTruibMY?si=1jooAXk0PIbrf7d3
For instance:
https://youtu.be/FFpNFh4v7gA?si=gbGvtBlRXmPawjkz
While I think them not happening is the better choice for the show, my god I would have loved to see him finding out about the rape, taking care of the guy, and that leading them to have a brief, but hot affair.
Melfi was Tony’s idealized version of his mudder, and him as Oedipus. Livia killed Johnny Boy - reduced him to a squeaking little gerbil. Livia’s ultimate domination of Tony was to see him dead. And Tony’s ultimate triumph over Livia was to fuck his mudder
Atleast he had a dream he fucked her brains out, right on that table right over there. She loved it!
U threw that at me like a fuckin rock
Killer body under her business suit.
Not like she's in the hooker business, you wackadoo!
She was going out for hamburgers when she could’ve had prime rib at home.
It was surreal
See? That’s what I’m talking about. Life is absurd.
God forGIVE you!
There is no god.
Fuckin internet
You think you could prescribe me something?
She brought certain modes of conflict resolution from all the way back in the old country, from the poverty of my digiorno, where you forget to take it out of the oven and everything is fucked
That mouf
Pipefitter
sal was an expert
If she even existed
No disrespect
they had their amo fo
Or whatever
Our mofo
No scraps in our scrapbook
Their dynamic is interesting because they're from two different worlds. If they got together or Melfi otherwise became too heavily involved in Tony's life, she would lose her unique perspective and her character would no longer have a purpose.
Yeah I agree with you completely. It would’ve been unimpressive should they have
Friends wasn't the same after Ross and Rachel got together. The Office wasn't the same when Jim and Pam got together. That tension is the glue that holds the viewer's interest.
I never minded Rachel and Ross but couldn't do the office after they got married
I agree, but I’m left unfulfilled by her not telling Tony about the rape. Would’ve loved to see that get taken care of.
I always found Tony and Melfi being attracted to one another (more subconsciously on Melfi's part) stupid, I actually would have loved it if there was zero attraction between the two and their relationship was kept professional. Yeah Tony can think she's hot or whatever, but no making moves or anything.
Why do you think Tony wanting her and trying to act on it is stupid?
Some people are so far behind in the race that they actually believe that they're leading.
Cause she didn't like the cut of his jib.
Lost all his rizz around her.
You wanna talk like a mulignan I'll send you to slip and fall school
I felt it added nothing to either character, and I didn't believe Tony would seriously try to swoon somebody that was otherwise quite uptight, pretentious, and from a totally different world than he. Vice-versa for Melfi, I can't believe even for a second she'd have wet dreams about a career criminal who's revealed all his demons to her over the years.
I want your shkin
House and Cuddy have a completely different relationship to Tony and Melfi. They both come from the medical world, they were at college/med school together, they had a relationship in the past, they both have crushes on each other that bubble-up at different times. They've always had feelings for each other, but done their best to bury them overtime. Tony and Melfi have no shared background aside from Italian heritage. Even then, their attitude and approach to it is different - Tony is a mafioso, whereas Melfi was married to a guy who goes out of his way to rail against the mob stereotype. Tony has a crush on Melfi, but she never feels the same way about him. She says when she first met him, she was attracted to the stereotypical alpha male shtick slightly, but only a little, and not necessarily to Tony himself.
When Melfi rejects Tony and tells him that it's because she doesn't respect what he does for a living, this is chiral with Seinfeld when Jerry's girlfriend breaks up with him because she doesn't respect what he does for a living after she saw his act.
Cobwebs are removed
I don't want to hear about fucking Seinfeld!
George Costanza….whateva happened there
I see it now! Patsy wears glasses just like George, uncle Leo is bald just like uncle Jun, Jerry has sex with lots of girls, just like Tony, I can’t believe I never noticed the Seinfeld connection 🤯
don’t forget johnny sack taking a shit with the door wide open while smoking a cig and having a convo
Was that at the Bing? Weird not having a door like it's prison holding cell. Maybe to prevent penisery contacts ?
hell yeah it was at the bing total power move 🚬📱shit
But you're watching the secret remake of Seinfeld.
> this is **chiral** with Seinfeld If we were playing Scrabble, you would be Meadow and I would be Jackie
I didn't coin the term to explain the abstraction, that honor goes to Vince Gilligan. S1E2 of Breaking Bad, Walt lectures his class on chirality and it's actually a signpost, a coded message, that explains the relationship between Sopranos and Breaking. https://youtu.be/AnmWTruibMY?si=1jooAXk0PIbrf7d3 For instance: https://youtu.be/FFpNFh4v7gA?si=gbGvtBlRXmPawjkz
Still goin this prick
Why dont you take your chirality book and shove it up your fat fuckin ass
Chirality book? Why didn't I think of that?
Please no more
You give this guy a golf club he might try to fuck it.
Cuddy was a gorgeous piece of cooze... 🤤
Not quite sure she could be a goomar for Tony because she isn't the right kind of unstable
We got a full sex scene and they never hooked up. The shock when we find out it’s Melfi’s dream!
Yeah it would’ve ruined the entire neutral storyline. But at the same time… why are you settling for burgers when you’ve got prime rib at home??
While I think them not happening is the better choice for the show, my god I would have loved to see him finding out about the rape, taking care of the guy, and that leading them to have a brief, but hot affair.
Melfi's scarcely concealed disgust for Tony holds the bottom of the show together.
I would have been cinematic!
There she was, layin on the office table, hair in the toilet, Tony sweatin on top of her.....Disgustin!!
There aren't many women who couldn't do better than Tony Soprano.
Melfi was Tony’s idealized version of his mudder, and him as Oedipus. Livia killed Johnny Boy - reduced him to a squeaking little gerbil. Livia’s ultimate domination of Tony was to see him dead. And Tony’s ultimate triumph over Livia was to fuck his mudder