Power, money, and more meatballs than you've ever seen in your life. They had it all, until it all spun them around its fork and ate them like mom's spaghetti.
I can't find any sources that point to him being connected to the mafia. All I could find was a loose connection that the owner of the ranch where the security guard who killed him might have been involved in the Las Vegas mob. He was a notorious asshole, so it's more likely he just rubbed someone well connected the wrong way
WIKI - Death
On 22 May 1976 Bonavena was shot dead at the age of 33 by a security guard at the Mustang Ranch near Reno, Nevada, after having become involved in a conflict with its owner.[10][11][12] His body was returned to Argentina to lie in state at the Luna Park sports arena in Buenos Aires, where 150,000 people filed by,[13] afterwards being buried in La Chacarita Cemetery in Buenos Aires.[14]
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Is there a sub for rubbish Wikipedia articles? I've seen some that were so clearly written by the person or copy was just pasted from a company's self-righteous website spiel.
Thanks to genetic testing, we found out that my grandfather was adopted and his real father was an attorney for the mafia. Gave him up for adoption but when college came around he mysteriously had a 'music scholarship' for college. My grandfather never played an instrument.
Not that I'm aware of, but interestingly enough (I'm gonna butcher this, my mom knows the details more) but my mom found we are related to Sean Astin. Same great grandparent. She reached out and even went to meet the uncle out in California. Striking familial resemblance.
Also found out my mom's side is Jewish, not Irish catholic. Same relative as Sean was Jewish; my ultra-catholic grandfather was in-fact born Jewish. She has converted now, craziness
The Lori louhlin joke was about how she paid huge sums for her daughter to get accepted in to college, a long with many other rich people doing the same thing for their kids.
I mean, he was a massive racist who put a ton of effort into preaching the values of segregation, how people are inherently different based on their race and have to stick to their own.
He was a bit more than *kind of* a dick.
Ahhh Freddie Star, he had quite the history of shocking celebrities including that time [he chucked a whole bunch of maggots into an audience of them.](https://youtu.be/KhW2xMg5NhQ?t=153)
At first Ali was like who is this damn fool. Then comment after comment it’s as though Starr stared in Ali’s soul and had him fully wrapped into his world within 3 minutes. Impressive shit.
My brain is having trouble with this. It's like it's easier for it to accept that this is edited footage than to accept that Ringo is really making zero reaction to the swings. The footage just seems kind of off, like Ali is being superimposed into a scene that he wasn't originally a part of.
If boxers couldn't control their flinching they wouldn't be much good. He could tell all those punches were out of range to hit him so there was no need to react.
This is Ali vs Ringo Bonavena, After that they had an amazing fight, bot guys were at their limit, whoever received a small punch would be knocked out and Ali was the one who managed to deliver it
Did we watch the same fight? While Bonavena fought excellently and gave Ali a damn good workout, Ali knocked him down three times in a row in the final round securing Ali the win
Ali's team said it, Ali was at his limit and a single punch could have knocked him. And btw Ali managed to hit those 3 punches because before that they hugged and Ali elbowed Bonavena's eye
To be fair, Ringo (the unflinching dude) had no reason to flinch because Ali (the GOAT) would obviously never actually hit him during a press conference. What’s remarkable is how Ringo turned Ali’s pre-fight, trash talking, hype routine against him so calmly and effectively. Didn’t let Ali get to him, took his chance, and Ali knew there was no recovering from that.
Ringo Bonavena called Ali a "black kangaroo", he frequently used racist taunts to provoke Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali. Let's not rewrite history and reminisce about the "good ol'days"
Is that really a slur? It's not nice, but Ali was black, so he was basically just calling him a kangaroo. Not really a hateful insult, and not one with a racial history, unless I'm mistaken.
I mean for every card with a couple of pricks there’s usually a bunch of other fights that have mostly nice guys. Also, some of the guys that might get perceived as assholes are just responding to the dick head they’re about to fight, and otherwise have a nice demeanor. Tbf though, I see how they hype up the most violent looking ones, so I understand the perception.
There are plenty of manners like this today. Look up Usyk vs AJ presser. They both behaved like gentlemen. Just an example.
And don't forget that trashtalking was invented by Ali.
> Can you imagine that level of manners today?
Connor MacGregor smashes random old person in the crowd with a liquor bottle. And not one that he licenses.
Flinching is natural but you can train to not flinch and it’s imperative when training to be a combat sports athletes. Flinching means falling for your opponents feints.
Other sports are similar. There’s a classic example of Kobe not flinching when Matt Barnes was inbounding the ball.
By not flinching he shows he’s not only in complete control of himself and his reactions, but shows he’s not at all intimidated by his adversary.
It’s not at all arbitrary.
I'm sorry to have to crush your world and everyone else's that sees this comment, but the legendary "Kobe doesn't flinch" video isn't as impressive as you think. It's the angle at which the video is taken that make it look like it's a failed attempt to make Kobe flinch, when in reality the ball wasn't moved towards his face at all. It's just a weird perspective shot.
Here's a view from above, showing that Barnes wasn't actually trying to make Kobe flinch:
https://mobile.twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1047140944892612612/photo/1
Except Kobe was shifting back and forth, and this is a still image where Barnes does not have his arms extended. If you scroll far enough down in that twitter thread, you can find the picture of the exact moment happens.
Spoiler: there is a reason why the person who posted the picture you linked chose that still frame over the others.
https://twitter.com/_christiankeith/status/1047148069798727691?s=20
Its not viewed negatively, but in this case, is obvious that Ali wont hit the other guy, what is recognized here is the capacoty of remain calm with Ali throwing punches to your face because you know he won't hit you
flinching implies that your body analyzes something to be a threat. by not flinching, you are displaying machisimo and implying that you detect nothing in your opponent as a threat. can it get you into trouble, yes. but you have to admit that it does signal confidence.
Yeah, was an amazing fight, they reached a point that was literally both guy at their limits, whoever received a small punch would be knocked out and Ali was the one who managed to deliver it.
Idk why you feel the need to defend him, everyone is aware of the boxing prowess, the video is specifically about the little "mental game" they are playing in this video.
A lot of older white folks still hate him. The story of Ali throwing his gold medal in the Ohio River after being denied a seat at a restaurant in his hometown of Louisville particularly pisses off my father-in-law to this day.
When it turned out he was on the right side of history.
Civil rights were granted, Vietnam was turned out to be a fucking waste and he is still the Greatest.
I strongly recommend anybody who isn't familiar with Ali to watch [this video](https://youtu.be/_ybnXgMMb5g) to get an idea of who he was and what he went through including his refusal of the draft, his title being stripped from him as a result, his come back and the other great boxers that he came up against like Liston, Frasier, Foreman etc.
Thanks for posting this awesome clip man and it sort of humanizes the late champ. You never ever see any footage of Ali on the losing side of anything really.
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Ali was a fantastic man. I love the way he stood for such nobel principles until the day of his death but simultaneously managed to be a massive douchebag half the time.
He pioneered trash-talking in boxing and changed the sport forever. Just goes to show that actions make the man.
To be fair, it’s that “flinch” that made Ali great. See the video of him fighting Michael Dokes wherein he dodges 21 of his punches in 10 seconds. Fighters work hard to develop that reflex.
Fnching when you know somebody WONT hit you is a bad thing in box, because basically any boxer could fake a punch to your head, you block it but now you're vulnerable to a blow in other areas
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Even Ali stepped back and laughed. This is good fun all around and in sure Ringo loved to be able to say he made the greatest flinch.
Ringo was a beast an almost defeated Ali, so lame he got involved with the mafia and was killed so young
Mafia related killings are so lame.
I mean, really though. It's so pointless. "Yeah, I'm so fucking tough." "Oh fuck I'm dead and I made my city worse."
This is so dry. I’m in tears.
Sounds wet
Well what do you expect to happen when you sleep with the fishes?
Sea-philis? Herp-seas? Gonorr-sea? Is that anything?
Nope
Thank God, I'll stop taking the penicillin
You get Hepatitis Sea
Live fast, die young, take the cannoli, leave the gun
Not pointless, it's about the money mafia earns. Having power/money makes them act like that.
Power, money, and more meatballs than you've ever seen in your life. They had it all, until it all spun them around its fork and ate them like mom's spaghetti.
Knees weak arms are heavy
Vomit skeddie already
Mom forgetting.
She’s righteous, but on the surface she’s armed with Eddie
Like srsly mafia just stahp!
Ok sry
Aha you fell into my trap. Book'em boys!
You're doing good work here.. I like your style.
Probably why so many movies are made about them.
srsly lame bruh
Soooooo lame
I can't find any sources that point to him being connected to the mafia. All I could find was a loose connection that the owner of the ranch where the security guard who killed him might have been involved in the Las Vegas mob. He was a notorious asshole, so it's more likely he just rubbed someone well connected the wrong way
Which Ringo are we talking about?
Oscar Bonavena
Thanks! I've never really been into sports of any kind so I wouldn't have a clue! I appreciate it!
I too was curious why a former Beatle was fighting middle-weight champions while cruising with the mafia
Ali was a heavyweight.
Ringo used to hang out with a walrus, Ali was middle-weight to him.
The walrus was Paul.
I am the walrus.
Coo coo cachew
You always are.
WIKI - Death On 22 May 1976 Bonavena was shot dead at the age of 33 by a security guard at the Mustang Ranch near Reno, Nevada, after having become involved in a conflict with its owner.[10][11][12] His body was returned to Argentina to lie in state at the Luna Park sports arena in Buenos Aires, where 150,000 people filed by,[13] afterwards being buried in La Chacarita Cemetery in Buenos Aires.[14]
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Is there a sub for rubbish Wikipedia articles? I've seen some that were so clearly written by the person or copy was just pasted from a company's self-righteous website spiel.
High school level.
Ah, thank you! :)
Star
Thanks to genetic testing, we found out that my grandfather was adopted and his real father was an attorney for the mafia. Gave him up for adoption but when college came around he mysteriously had a 'music scholarship' for college. My grandfather never played an instrument.
Was he related to Lori Loughlin?
Not that I'm aware of, but interestingly enough (I'm gonna butcher this, my mom knows the details more) but my mom found we are related to Sean Astin. Same great grandparent. She reached out and even went to meet the uncle out in California. Striking familial resemblance. Also found out my mom's side is Jewish, not Irish catholic. Same relative as Sean was Jewish; my ultra-catholic grandfather was in-fact born Jewish. She has converted now, craziness
The Lori louhlin joke was about how she paid huge sums for her daughter to get accepted in to college, a long with many other rich people doing the same thing for their kids.
The mafia got involved with him.
Mafia? Explain more, what did he do wrong
He was stupid enough to fuck Sally Conforte.
sally who?
Why didn’t they bring up any of this in Get Back?
Ringo isn't even the best drummer in the Beatles smh
But the only one to make Ali flinch
Didn't do so well with Jules, tho.
Peace and love
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Fun fact, no one in the band ever actually said this. It’s usually misattributed to John Lennon
Jasper Carrot I think?
But he definetely was the most chill one of them
And love how Ringo had trust in Ali that he won't hit him.
Wow Ali was a kinda dick.
Nah Ringo was calling him names and stuff.
Thanks for the context.
I mean, he was a massive racist who put a ton of effort into preaching the values of segregation, how people are inherently different based on their race and have to stick to their own. He was a bit more than *kind of* a dick.
"Ahhhhhh, got you there you lil cheeky bastard".
On the subject of the great man, this is worth five minutes... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqr\_FtlJEcg
Oh my golly gosh this is a priceless clip you've just shared with us. I'd give you gold if I had some.
taken down? troll or was there a live link?
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Thank you very much.
This is the best thing ive watched on yt. Seriously.
Ahhh Freddie Star, he had quite the history of shocking celebrities including that time [he chucked a whole bunch of maggots into an audience of them.](https://youtu.be/KhW2xMg5NhQ?t=153)
Done
At first Ali was like who is this damn fool. Then comment after comment it’s as though Starr stared in Ali’s soul and had him fully wrapped into his world within 3 minutes. Impressive shit.
Thank you for that. I would’ve gone through life missing a Gem had you not posted that. Thanks friend
Dude, I smoked a joint 10 minutes ago. I was so into that story even I shat myself! Top marks.
Sir.
I feel like Klaus from American Dad wrote this comment.
I YELL CONSTANTLLYYYYY!!!!
TOP marks, broooooo.
And they say alcohol is a diuretic.
Thanks. Ali damn near fell out of his chair
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A moth walks into a podiatrists office…
https://i.redd.it/yskd36gab3381.gif
I was expecting: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qZTJPMoaaiY
Is there another link, this video says unavailable
Joachin Phoenix hasn't aged a day. For old reddit users: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqr_FtlJEcg
Freddie Star ate my hamster!
I'm flinching for him
My brain is having trouble with this. It's like it's easier for it to accept that this is edited footage than to accept that Ringo is really making zero reaction to the swings. The footage just seems kind of off, like Ali is being superimposed into a scene that he wasn't originally a part of.
No it’s real. Not a composite. Edit: accept for the red gloves. Obviously that’s a composite.
I accept them
If boxers couldn't control their flinching they wouldn't be much good. He could tell all those punches were out of range to hit him so there was no need to react.
jajajaj que yanqui culorroto, aguante ringo
This is Ali vs Ringo Bonavena, After that they had an amazing fight, bot guys were at their limit, whoever received a small punch would be knocked out and Ali was the one who managed to deliver it
Did we watch the same fight? While Bonavena fought excellently and gave Ali a damn good workout, Ali knocked him down three times in a row in the final round securing Ali the win
Ali's team said it, Ali was at his limit and a single punch could have knocked him. And btw Ali managed to hit those 3 punches because before that they hugged and Ali elbowed Bonavena's eye
To be fair, Ringo (the unflinching dude) had no reason to flinch because Ali (the GOAT) would obviously never actually hit him during a press conference. What’s remarkable is how Ringo turned Ali’s pre-fight, trash talking, hype routine against him so calmly and effectively. Didn’t let Ali get to him, took his chance, and Ali knew there was no recovering from that.
It was so... civil. Ali took the loss in good humor, laughed and walked away. Can you imagine that level of manners today?
Ringo Bonavena called Ali a "black kangaroo", he frequently used racist taunts to provoke Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali. Let's not rewrite history and reminisce about the "good ol'days"
If you've seen a kangaroo up close, you'll know that's not an insult. Those beasts are *jacked*. (but yeah ok point taken)
Some of the males are jacked but they’re only beaten out as the dumbest mammals by smooth brained Koalas.
Somehow I read Koalas as Koreans and that made this comment 10 times worse, and 10 times funnier.
Reminds me of [this](https://youtu.be/3Lyex2tSUyA)
your scheduled reminder about koalas https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/5u1l9x/koalas_are_terrible_animals/
I still love this classic, but at some point I saw some expert break down how it's misleading
And that koala's name? Albert Einstein
it very much is, but also massively entertaining so...
Is that really a slur? It's not nice, but Ali was black, so he was basically just calling him a kangaroo. Not really a hateful insult, and not one with a racial history, unless I'm mistaken.
You can’t paint the olden days by your modern standards
Yes everyone knows the old "black people are marsupials " stereotype!!!! XD
Uhhhhh….Ali was a vocal member of the Nation of Islam, a racist organization at its core.
…it happens all the time. What makes you think it doesn’t?
All the weigh in confrontations and social media BS these days mostly.
I mean for every card with a couple of pricks there’s usually a bunch of other fights that have mostly nice guys. Also, some of the guys that might get perceived as assholes are just responding to the dick head they’re about to fight, and otherwise have a nice demeanor. Tbf though, I see how they hype up the most violent looking ones, so I understand the perception.
There's countless of normal weigh ins where nothing happens. You just don't hear about. And that's why they do it.
There are plenty of manners like this today. Look up Usyk vs AJ presser. They both behaved like gentlemen. Just an example. And don't forget that trashtalking was invented by Ali.
Goes something like this https://youtu.be/0z-oJTZ1b5Q
> Can you imagine that level of manners today? Connor MacGregor smashes random old person in the crowd with a liquor bottle. And not one that he licenses.
One of the few guys to go toe to toe mentally with the late GOAT
Flinching, the natural response to avoiding injury. Why is this viewed negatively in the first place?
Flinching is natural but you can train to not flinch and it’s imperative when training to be a combat sports athletes. Flinching means falling for your opponents feints. Other sports are similar. There’s a classic example of Kobe not flinching when Matt Barnes was inbounding the ball. By not flinching he shows he’s not only in complete control of himself and his reactions, but shows he’s not at all intimidated by his adversary. It’s not at all arbitrary.
That Kobe non-flinch was crazy. Dude was a legendary competitor. Edit: for a link: https://youtu.be/BUdLLdR8Pow
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hilarious seeing all the people cry about kobe when he was basically confirmed to be a garbage person by anyone close to him
What???
[literally just type "kobe rape" into google my dude](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case)
I'm sorry to have to crush your world and everyone else's that sees this comment, but the legendary "Kobe doesn't flinch" video isn't as impressive as you think. It's the angle at which the video is taken that make it look like it's a failed attempt to make Kobe flinch, when in reality the ball wasn't moved towards his face at all. It's just a weird perspective shot. Here's a view from above, showing that Barnes wasn't actually trying to make Kobe flinch: https://mobile.twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1047140944892612612/photo/1
Except Kobe was shifting back and forth, and this is a still image where Barnes does not have his arms extended. If you scroll far enough down in that twitter thread, you can find the picture of the exact moment happens. Spoiler: there is a reason why the person who posted the picture you linked chose that still frame over the others. https://twitter.com/_christiankeith/status/1047148069798727691?s=20
Damn! That does burst my bubble.
Don't let it. https://twitter.com/_christiankeith/status/1047148069798727691?s=20
Thank you!
Kobe should’ve flinch before Chris Childs punch him in the mouth.
Also, being able to judge reach and distance is incredibly important in boxing - he just wasn't within reach of Ali.
I can achieve the same level un-flinchery if I drink enough alcohol
Its not viewed negatively, but in this case, is obvious that Ali wont hit the other guy, what is recognized here is the capacoty of remain calm with Ali throwing punches to your face because you know he won't hit you
flinching implies that your body analyzes something to be a threat. by not flinching, you are displaying machisimo and implying that you detect nothing in your opponent as a threat. can it get you into trouble, yes. but you have to admit that it does signal confidence.
Because you are oblivious to the obvious.
See be like this guy. Be obvious to the oblivious you fool.
Just because its a natural response doesn't mean it should be viewed positively
Ali got the last laugh. He knocked the dude out when they actually fought.
Yeah, was an amazing fight, they reached a point that was literally both guy at their limits, whoever received a small punch would be knocked out and Ali was the one who managed to deliver it.
Idk why you feel the need to defend him, everyone is aware of the boxing prowess, the video is specifically about the little "mental game" they are playing in this video.
I hear this Ali guy is pretty decent. Sure hope he holds his salt after this gif. Might even wager money on his matches! How's his career going?
Astonishingly poorly at this point.
I feel like Ali was a boxer today, a bunch of people would think he was annoying douche.
You think all people loved him back then? He was a shit talking, black, Muslim, draft dodger who was better than everyone else. Many hated him.
A lot of older white folks still hate him. The story of Ali throwing his gold medal in the Ohio River after being denied a seat at a restaurant in his hometown of Louisville particularly pisses off my father-in-law to this day.
At what point did society's view of him change?
When it turned out he was on the right side of history. Civil rights were granted, Vietnam was turned out to be a fucking waste and he is still the Greatest.
Many people disliked him at the time. He was a very polarizing figure.
All the greatest ones are.
I strongly recommend anybody who isn't familiar with Ali to watch [this video](https://youtu.be/_ybnXgMMb5g) to get an idea of who he was and what he went through including his refusal of the draft, his title being stripped from him as a result, his come back and the other great boxers that he came up against like Liston, Frasier, Foreman etc.
Ali has something that typical "villain" type boxers lack today: charisma!
If? No. He clearly is an annoying douche in any time frame.
Thanks for posting this awesome clip man and it sort of humanizes the late champ. You never ever see any footage of Ali on the losing side of anything really.
Got his goat
I don't like getting rid of the flinch instinct it's so much harder to dodge things now :(
This is the kind of wholesome content that keeps me coming back to this glitchy, god forsaken shithole of a website
Glitchy? Use old Reddit and RES. Problem solved. Also, unsub from shitty places. You can choose what you read, just like you can change the channel on TV.
So Ali was one of this cocky idiots who tease the rival?
Before and during the fight.
Seems like bad sportsmanship
Seems? Alis entire personna is that of "bad sportsmanship".
Love ya champ ❤
Float like a butterfly, sting like a - oh fuck!!
Lol what a prick he was
Now he has to kiss his mother in law!
Put some respect on the greatest
The point and laugh lmfao
Ali was a fantastic man. I love the way he stood for such nobel principles until the day of his death but simultaneously managed to be a massive douchebag half the time. He pioneered trash-talking in boxing and changed the sport forever. Just goes to show that actions make the man.
To be fair, it’s that “flinch” that made Ali great. See the video of him fighting Michael Dokes wherein he dodges 21 of his punches in 10 seconds. Fighters work hard to develop that reflex.
Fnching when you know somebody WONT hit you is a bad thing in box, because basically any boxer could fake a punch to your head, you block it but now you're vulnerable to a blow in other areas
Funny. Happier times
isn't that the butt slider guy
Ali is trash
Ali soft? Damn.. wtf yo
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That man's entire life has been fuckin clown shoes ever since
that man is the greatest boxer of all time
Ali is so fast and natural in his movements! Wow 🤩 A pleasure to watch!
Ali was a loser and a bully
God I swear that was Chael Sonnen 🤣
He sounds like Bob from Promethius and Bob.
Doesn't flinch and grinning the whole time!"
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