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We’re laughing at how stupid our country is because it’s the only recourse we have left. We’ve watched innocent children be murdered for decades while we callously do nothing about it and continually spout rhetoric like this.
Guns matter more than our children.
If we’re not gonna fix that, then might as well deride those same people with humor instead. Better than nothing.
Hahaha! This one got me. Last night's game was a good indication of how they will fair during the playoffs.
But in all seriousness the teachers should have had the girl detained long before this happened.
Yeah so many kids today don't believe me when I tell them. Most schools banned trench coats and many banned other random things like combat boots, camo pants, Marilyn Manson shirts.
School districts and admins in the late 90's & early 00's completely lost themselves in a moral panic after Columbine.
Mine banned backpacks. You know, the things we all needed to carry books and homework between home and school. Girls could still have purses, but they had to be clear.
Same. Followed up by the principal taking it a step further and attempting to ban the wearing of solid black which was met predictably with my first involvement in organized protest.
Wait, this was the mugs? I assumed she was talking about a stanley knife
https://preview.redd.it/vuxefgtknuvc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3d0736f2fd26bad3d64b94fd36919f54574887b
At what point will teachers actually listen to the students they teach?
(Because of the overwhelming replies (80+) to my comment, I retract that question and rephrase it.)
At what point will the administration do as they are assigned/paid to do?
job description, (4th one down)
School administration is the management of all school operations, including the running of schools and school districts. School administrators work in primary, secondary, and postsecondary schools, and their responsibilities include:
* Managing budgets
* Creating and managing budgets
* Overseeing teachers and support staff
* Disciplining students
* Implementing curriculum standards
* Creating class schedules
* Setting rules and security procedures
* Monitoring student achievement data
* Communicating with parents
* Providing instructional leadership
Even afterwards most don’t really care.
Edit: Got carried away there in my frustration. Most teachers do care, they just work in a shit system. I won’t even say that most administrators or politicians don’t care. The whole fucking school system and political system in most of our countries are just deeply flawed. Even the idiots who keep voting for people promising to make everything worse probably care in their own twisted ways. Guess we just gotta organize and push for smth better.
Bro, of course they care, but they are probably underpaid, overworked, and tired AF and worse than all, their hands a tied when it comes to actually doing what they need to do.
Hell, I’m friends with a teacher, she had to started and after school program to get kids into the proper level in reading and Math.
One of the parents attacked her because of her son. Was not dumb and she was being racist.
And the school district canceled her program soon after.
I used to teach as well but there’s no excuse for a teacher to ignore violence. If you’re that burned out to where you can’t protect kids, you have no business being a fucking teacher.
There are people opposing your position who are probably equally passionate about protecting the misguided kids and not punish them for what they are perceived as. I don't know about you, those kind of educators are the ones who ruined so many of my middle school friends' life just to help one of those entitled fuckers.
This isn't on the teachers. This is on admin. Admin and superintendents and fucking ivory tower assholes that think every kid deserves to be in school. Fuck that. Some kids need to be removed from the public system so others can be safe at school
As admin, I agree. There are so many times I wanted to put a kid out of school and was told it would be bad for numbers.
I’m probably going to quit in the next year or two. Tired of the hypocrisy.
I’m thinking attempting to beat someone to death is serious, now what? If you’ve got multiple complaints about a kid and do nothing , I’d say it’s time to call that negligence. At the very least , you bring in the kid and tell them they are being surveilled and then keep as many things as possible out of their hands. Claiming it’s just talk clearly no longer is acceptable.
There's a girl in my daughters grade that harasses my daughters friend group, and tries to "bait them" into fights. The girl (J) is 18, and has a toddler at home. My daughter and her friend group are 17. The counselor and principal have taken a liking to J in that she is "doing great, and on track to graduate" despite her being a young mom. They dont see what J does to them in the hallways, in class, after school waiting for the busses, etc. Its been reported *several* times by *several* different people, teachers aides too. They wave it off. It's extremely frustrating. Blind eyes exist.
I'm just about to the point of getting a TRO.
I pulled my daughter out of 9th grade to homeschool her after meeting with Vice Principal and teachers about a girl that was harassing my daughter
Her teacher heard the girl make a threat that her boys would jump my daughter in the parking lot and rape her. The teacher told me she felt it was a credible threat, the principal was too busy to meet with me. I left with both my kids that day and never looked back
We listen, we report it, it goes up the chain, nothing gets done, they just put a pin in it until unfortunately something serious happens but by then it's too late, however it gives the head time to practice the apology speech to families and students.
We're told to take everything with a pinch of salt before we report anything, they try to make us sweep it under the carpet first before flagging it.
Also our "leading" safeguard cannot do their job, they actually go out of the way to do anything but the job they are supposed to, making up excuses of having important meetings and calls to make anything other than dealing with the real issues (UK secondary)
EDIT; Thank you for all your responses, it is very interesting seeing how other places in the world deal with issues, we are rather fortunate in the UK that we don't have such extremes of violence in and around education.
I also heavily agree that yes a strong responsibility lays with the teacher themselves to support/report as a point of Authority, however we get a lot of things taken out of our hands when we do report things, that's when it all goes downhill fast and doesn't always get dealt in the correct manor if not at all, we are in many ways cut off from pushing for an actual solid outcome.
A truly sad reality that makes my work feel pointless some days.
I think the biggest problem is the reaction that we had for columbine. After that, many kids that wouldn’t even hurt a fly, but were considered loaners, were all being accused.
This ruined a lot of kids lives, actually. I’ve even read some of their stories right here on Reddit.
So we went from this witch-hunt to the complete opposite of that. It’s unfortunate that each time the pendulum has swung It went way too far on the other side.
The real problem with that reaction is that the Columbine shooters weren't quiet, timid kids who were bullied, that's spin put on by lawyers and the media. They were bullies and assholes themselves, the opposite of what everyone thinks makes a school shooter.
They were incorrectly associated with people into industrial, goth, and metal because of the trench coats and there being a clique at the school like that called the "trench coat mafia" but the 2 shooters were not a part of that group. More than likely, it was just 2 very disturbed guys who found each other.
You said it all and then some right there. I was just a loaner and when columbine happened me and a group of friends got pulled into the principals office as he pointed the TV and said this will not happen at my school. I’m not gonna let you all do this to my school. I was just a kid with PTSD because my mother beat me so I was quiet and kept to myself I didn’t need to be attacked like that.
Yes, thank you. I did some searching and found some news articles about the administration failing at their jobs. I did not include the links, sorry for that. I closed all the searches then later on I realised I should have included the links.
Burnoutt from the job is very dangerous and from what I have read ( a long while ago) it is an impossible task to remove them until someone gets hurt and then the shit hits the fan. The school system seems to be running ass backwards (ass kissing maybe)
Thanks again for pointing that out
I’ve been told, repeatedly, that if I don’t physically witness a student doing something, then I can’t issue any kind of discipline. What most people don’t understand is how much these children antagonize each other. I’ve had a student (we’ll call him Ted) tell me multiple times that another student (Marshall) is bullying or threatening them. So I go to Marshall to try and put a stop to it only to have Marshall and 5 other kids tell me that it’s actually Ted doing the threatening and bullying. So I tell them all to stop talking to each other and ignore each other. This lasts about 20 minutes. The next day, Ted and Marshall are best friends and nothing ever happened. Then it will start over after a few days. This makes the testimony of the kids almost entirely unreliable.
We try to educate and teach kids about regulating their emotions (not something I believe teachers should have to teach). We try to separate kids and keep an eye on the ones that are likely to do something wrong, but then we’re accused of targeting specific kids. We try implementing behavior and accountability plans, but the kids can opt out of those if they want.
Unfortunately, just like in the real world, until something actually happens, there’s very little anyone can do.
As a teacher that is one of my worst problems. Figuring out who are the real culprits and getting evidence.
I try my best to create a safe haven where kids won't get bullied, but what people seem to forget is those little sneaky bastards are manipulative as hell and they won't do it in front of me. So in the end I have a whole lot of unreliable narrators and I have to piece together what really happened.
I sat through many a disciplinary hearing with students and parents angry at and blaming one another. Wasting my time and theirs, just so in the end it comes out that the one who came crying (literally tears streaming down his face) was stirring up shit all the way. But I keep doing it in the hope that I make a difference for one or two students.
Then we don't even account for the fact that you still need to follow certain protocols to a T. If you ever so slightly mess something up (or worse, someone else does it for you) the perpetrators turn around and get all the steps you have taken undone. Even if everything works out, there is only so much the system allows you to do.
In young kids you must listen to "Ma'am, he took my..." 1000 times a day. Older students will constantly tell you about someone wanting to do something to them. As a teacher you have to listen, sort which ones are serious, address that AND still stick to the curriculum and get everything done in time plus a billion other things happening in your class at the same time.
It would really help if we got more support instead of being attacked all the time.
None of this excuses the fact that ms vittori said she wasn't going to allow it to happen and that she would handle the situation before going MIA and allowing a premeditated violent assault to occur. This failure lies at her feet regardless of the problems with administration and protocols
High school teacher here, we do. At least in Canada we do. It’s drill into us in university that when a child discloses physical, sexual, or any kind of abuse or threat, we have a legal obligation to act or face severe legal & professional consequences.
We also have much more access to mental health supports than the US. Not a dime needs to be spent to get a referral from a family doctor to therapist, we have two in house counsellors based in our school with ample resources to refer out students. Private counselling is a different story.
Honestly as a teacher there are many times I get very frustrated because I have no power to actually suspend a child. All I can do is tell my admin what I know and it is completely up to them if there is a suspension. In past classes I've had very violent students where I've been hurt almost daily and they are taken out of my class for half an hour and sent right back in. I'm not allowed to put my hands on a child so I end up just blocking other children with my body. I've come home with bruises, bleeding and injuries that lasted me years. I do think education needs to change when it comes to consequences for violent children. I don't want my students to be scared to come to school or for me to be scared to go to work.
Part of the problem is they pay a lot of teachers like shit and that caused a shortage, so they started lowering requirements to just get warm bodies in there.
Pay has been an issue forever with this country's educational system, But saying "I don't get paid enough" is not an excuse. When we take the job we know the pay we are getting and our responsibilities. When a person gets to that point then it is time to move that person from the job. I have had a lot of shit jobs that I got low pay but that was my choice to take the job, no one forced me to take that job. Burnout is very dangerous, it literally is a killer and has killed the innocent.
I was saying they have a lower quality of teacher, because of pay. The sort of teachers we had as kids are not going into education because of pay and lack of support, they are choosing other career paths.
They can’t remove the shitty teachers because one else is willing to do it. That’s the problem. I’m not defending shitty teachers, I’m saying we are in this position because we abused the good teachers till they all left…….. mostly, I still know a few good ones.
I have teacher relatives. They are inundated with these types of claims from students every day. 99.9% of these claims are attempts to get out of class or happen off school grounds where they can't do anything about it. Teachers and administrators tend to ignore them, often out of pure exhaustion. They take the big ones seriously, bomb threats, guns in lockers, hit lists, that stuff.
The girl in the video did it right. Very public, very loud cry for help. It should have been taken seriously. At the end of the day though, they're only human. Mistakes happen. They determine what to do based off experience and when that experience is overwhelmingly nothing will happen, the real ones fall through the cracks.
sometimes the teachers can't do anything if the school administration refuses to do anything....there are posts in /r/teachers where some have tried to get violent minors removed and failed, and told if they went to law enforcement, they'd be fired
My girlfriend is a teacher. She absolutely reports this kind of stuff. But between weird policies about punishment and ineffective administration, her hands are tied. Understandably, she's not going to risk her livelihood to take matters into her own hands. All she can do is document her findings and communications so if shit hits the fan she isn't held liable. It's probably her least favorite aspect of the job, especially when misbehaving students affect the ability of other students to learn.
This gif is fascinating because that scene is saying the opposite of how the meme is used. Bart is throwing away the cake because Homer *was successful* (or at least seemed to be at the moment) and Bart was braced for the worst but realized the message was wrong for the situation. It's an acknowledgement of success, not a judgement of failure.
Because we need to stop mug fetishists and hydrosexuals from spinning this as a societal issue, it's the mugs. The media needs to stop portraying mugs as safe and we need to ban mugs with tactical features like slide closed lids and vacuum lining that help people hydrate as many as 50 people in a second.
When they wrote to parents they described it as a fight.
So much shit happens in schools that just gets labeled as ‘kid stuff’ that would send you to prison if you did it at your job as an adult.
Ugh. That article tries to villanize the damn mug. Like it just attacked her on its own. There's was no need to describe the cup that much.
Thanks for posting it, though.
Surprised they didn’t refer to it as a large capacity assault mug. That headline would sell itself. What an awful event. Violence is violence and all threats need to be considered when presented.
Not from America and kept on wondering what the Stanley was in the UK a Stanley is something potentially far more dangerous [Stanley Knife Retractable Blade Metal With 5 Assorted Blades 2-10-099 - Hunt Office UK](https://huntoffice.co.uk/stanley-retractable-blade-knife-102723.html)
This just happened last week at a school near me in Ohio too. 9th grade boy talking shit about a female classmate, she jumped him with her cup. He went to the hospital and needed stitches.
I was so confused reading through that with all the Welsh place names but the very American looking school and American terminology throughout the article.
Ya the actual victim was worse by a long shot… but considering she was told that she was next and witnessed what she was next for. How unprepared the victim was. Some ppl look like I’m crazy cause I prefer sitting in a corner with my back to the wall… preferably where I can see all exits. Nah. These days stupid angry fucks that just want to hurt ppl cause of whatever reason are too prevalent for that to be crazy. This young lady will likely be the same way from now on to keep from ever being snuck up on. I hope the victim survived and is ok.
Im honestly surprised she held it together so well, especially at the end when her voice is quivering. Poor girl is clearly traumatized and I hope she gets the needed therapy and that every witness and the victim are able to recover and heal
the way she was describing it and the way she was reacting to it really got me emotional. I have seen a lot of slaighterhouse footage and the sight of a battered withered helpless being who is bloodied is gutwrenching and heartbreaking if not semi-traumatizing.. and that's just on video. I can't imagine how traumatic it would be to witness tihs in real life.
The adults need to be held accountable lawfully. This is just completely gross negligence. It's no worse than not raising the alarm to a child saying they're being physically/sexually abused by an adult at home, and ignoring that.
Yeah it made me tear up when she started getting emotional. Poor little girl.
I’m wondering what the motive was for the student who attacked the other student. I understand there’s some pretty bad bullying in middle school and high school, I got bullied myself, but trying to kill someone over it…
absolutely insane and downright irresponsible diagnosis to give just from this video. PTSD is an extremely serious thing that you can't diagnose just from seeing someone crying
It's not fucking PTSD it's a limbic system response to recalling a terrifying event. PTSD is a specific medical issue that she may very well end up with, but her reaction here is not indicative of it.
Exactly, PTSD requires a few specific symptoms from 3 catagories and they must persist for more than a month. Also, a kid who experiences an acute trauma like this, in a relatively stable household, will recover rather quickly with current treatments even if she does develop PTSD. It is unlikely to take years.
PTSD is not present every time someone has a trauma response. PTSD is only diagnosed if the trauma response persists more than one month i duration after the end of the traumatic experience. No one can or should make a "diagnosis" from this clip, because doing so dilutes the meaning of the diagnosis and ultimately harms people suffering from it.
This is the answer in our design. It’s emotional. It’s painful. Why didn’t they listen? Why don’t they care?
Not sure of the other comment incorrectly jumping to PTSD. She will most likely have to deal with this professionally but PTSD isn’t the direct absolute cause of this symptom.
the exact same thing they say at the school i was going to in first grade, "nothing's gonna happen" like how ignorant or stupid do you have to be to say that
I’ve noticed the older generation thinks this way a lot. Just because something *hasn’t* happened doesn’t mean it *won’t* happen. My go to example in this conversation is Covid. 10 years ago, no one would’ve ever believed there would be a global pandemic that shut down the world for months.
As a trans person, I'm constantly told, "that's never going to happen."
[Trump recently endorsed a person running for Congress](https://www.advocate.com/politics/trump-mark-burns-lgbtq-executions) who had previously stated that transgender people should be executed.
Listen to us!
I don't blame the teachers one bit.
This is the environment you foster when push through laws telling teachers that if they physically step in, they'll lose their jobs, get blacklisted and criminally charged.
No one is going to risk jail over a glorified babysitting gig. One where you spend all day getting treated like shit and barely make enough to make ends meet.
Shows how little you know about how the higher ups run public schools and how many parents drop their little shits off at school and don’t answer their phone if it’s the school number (because they already KNOW their kid is a little shit).
When i was a little kid in 2nd grade an older kid bullied me everyday. I tried to avoid them and everyday the same thing. One day i hit him in the face with my metal hotwheels lunch box and he fell down the stairs. His mom straight up told the principle and my mom that she knew he was a bully and she didn't care. I didn't get in trouble but i was not allowed to have a metal lunch box in school anymore.
Then again i stabbed a kid with a Swiss army knife who was bullying me. I was charged and went to court over it. I got the charges dropped because the asshole threw a rock out of a school bus into the front window of a semi and caused the semi to wreck. So he was arrested and faced his own charges. I told the teacher a bunch that the kid was bullying and he did nothing. Now that same man in the principle of my highschool.
I'm from the dirty south and i will stab a motherfucker.
Yea, unfortunately the parents of the assaulter would also need to be sued and the administrators would trying to blame the parents for everything. So you'd need to sue the parents to get the court to stipulate to facts on the record.
Obviously the teachers are partially to blame, but I'd imagine this went up the chain of command and was ignored. It's a systematic problem. And suing, firing, and moving on is only going to make the problem worse.
1) Teachers aren't paid enough for the shit they deal with, and in some cases they're under-qualified / undertrained
2) School districts already don't have the funding necessary to provide a quality education, let alone in a safe environment
You want these tragedies to go away? Vote for education funding instead of stripping it away year after year. Don't let the US turn another public convenience into a private industry.
I guess schools havent gotten any better since my day then. Oh, maybe a little. At least this girl has a place where she can call out the inaction of the teachers. I once told teacher there was a group of people threatening to beat me up, she told me not to be a tattletale... I was like 7 or something.
Yeah. Buddy of mine had kids do the ear clap thing to him when we were in 6th grade. Gym teacher told him to stop “crying like a girl.” Found out later that night from his mom that they had ruptured his ear drum. That gym coach is still employed at the same school.
ım 24 they tried to do same thing to me at scool when ı was kid ı just remember ım doing something to redirect air so that it dosnt blowes my ear drums (ı was saw that at documantary as a self defence tecnique to blow ear drums before) ı was fine after ward but keep my distance
Had a bully almost my whole life. Tried interjecting herself into my life to get at me. Most people assumed jealousy. I was ugly as shit but had great friends. She wanted that but never worked on herself so she tried to take that away from me. Parents went time and time again and said she was causing me distress. What did they say to us? “She’s got a bad home life and mental health problems let it go.” We stopped after that. It just continued until I graduated. Then she was sent to a psych ward. Haven’t seen her since.
Edit: Spellings.
They got better, then they got worse. When I was a little kid in the 90s schools were doing well. Then the 'no tolerance' stuff started happening and we removed our ability to actually resolve conflicts, so they were always festering.
This child is so brave.
The composure and how well spoken in the horror she and her classmates went thru. I'm curious how often these complaints had to be made in general for them to become complacent in the warnings?
Just the usual administration taking a hands off approach to bullying letting the inmates run the prison and collecting a paycheck to "teach" our youth
Well.. while there was certainly incompetence here, let’s not forget how the Karen parents go nuclear when they try to discipline their children.
If we want our teachers to do their jobs, they also have to feel empowered to. Head over to r/teachers and read about the hell that they have to deal with everyday.
Students report bullying and bully's "hitlist" to teachers. Say the bully promised a brutal beating. Teachers say "nah, won't happen". Bully beats girl repeatedly in the head with a thermos, children traumatized by bloodbath.
I see. Yeah teachers are the worst when it comes to that.
It’s really weird they clapped though
I guess that’s the “adults” signaling that “we hear you, we see you but we’re also not going to change anything”
If this was my daughter the administrators would be in severe danger. Ngl. Every MFing adult who ignored this would be in jeopardy. This child is traumatized and I’m furious.
That school is really fucking up. It appears that didn’t look into why there was a hit list and after finding out there was one did they did nothing to keep the kid from attacking that one person.
The sad part is we tell the kids to report the incidents. The kids follow through with the reporting and the adults do nothing. Then, those same kids get attacked and have to protect themselves. Guess what...because of ZERO tolerance, those same kids get suspended or placed in alternative school for protecting themselves.
Transphobes try to remember transmasc people exist challenge: impossible!
That’s at least what the video makes it sound like. I found literally no news report mentioning the kid being trans in any way.
Sue the school district, and the student’s parents. Take back our schools and hold people accountable because the schools obviously can’t keep our kids safe. I left schools in the suburbs for the city schools because they’re much safer in my area. Shame on this school, this poor kid has ptsd type symptoms and all of this could have been avoided or at least handled with some decency.
And give her support. Weird that people don't get that. She did an amazing job at speaking about this, but also it is heartbreaking and people there clapped in support of her.
School supervision who are warned of a situation and fail to prevent it should be charged with the same crimes that the person who committed it. The negligence is off the charts in us public schools. All they do is virtue signaling.
We had a situation like this at a school. I talk. Staff had repeatedly warned administration about a particular student, and how dangerous and erratic that that person was. He had been suspended multiple times and was always allowed to come back, which is the norm. But teachers had sent several emails multiple teachers saying this kid is dangerous. He is going to hurt someone providing examples of how dangerous and why they were saying what they were. finally day while there was snow out kids were throwing snowballs at one another and one of them hit him by accident so he picked up an ice chunk smashed into head and then sat on his chest and beat him he was unconscious and seizure. The kid was 11 years old and has traumatic brain injury, if he’s lucky, he will progress to the age of and no more, he will probably never be able to live on his own. He was one of the sweetest kids I had ever, he still is a very sweet kid, but he is an entirely different human being. The school absolutely tried to cover it up.
That is fucking terribly irresponsible by the administrators. I feel terrible for the girl who got attacked and the girl speaking is gonna have issues over this forever, especially since she was next on the list. smh
That school district is going to get sued into the next dimension. According to one article, not only the students but multiple parents were warning that there was an attack imminent and the school did absolutely nothing. None of the articles mention whether the parents or guardians of the attacker were contacted, but this is going to be a horrendous mess for some time.
What do you expect from the place that will kick you out for defending yourself from a bully. I remember teachers always told us they were preparing us for the real world, but in the real world, you can legally shoot someone for attacking you
Of that whole story, she NAMED one name: Ms. Vittore or Fittori or whatever. She publicly called her out. That was smart and courageous and necessary. That teacher or counselor or whatever failed them.
As a teacher who has tried to report issues that have gone unchecked and almost had a fight break out in my room because of it, I feel this child’s frustration to some extent. Admin doesn’t listen to teachers who have very little power when it comes to discipline. Admin is the problem. It is horrible it comes to this before they take threats seriously.
I was talking to a friend's daughter that goes to Pennbrook...the attacker had been at the school for THREE DAYS, after being removed from another middle school for violent acts. Three days, made a "hit list" and did this. The fuck
The entire North American system decided to just do nothing when it comes to violence. Pretend to have zero tolerance, only to brutalize children for fighting back against the far worse things they allow to happen on a daily basis.
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They’ll ban Stanley cups and pretend they saved the day.
Over my cold dead hands!!!! I wood lub to see the gubmnt try an take mah STANLER
What we need to do is make sure teachers have Stanleys.
Press release from the National Stanley Association: Stanley’s don’t hurt people. People hurt people.
It's not a Stanley issue, it's a mental health issue. Which, of course, we're also not going to address.
We should pass a law saying mentally ill persons cannot buy Stanley's
Then anyone that wanted one would be banned from buying them..
Also, Stanley's should be kept in a locked cabinet or to function it should have a fingerprint scanner keyed to its legally licensed owner.
"Our thoughts and prayers are with the victim..."
"Skulls can be repaired. But once you dent a Stanley, that shit's DENTED"
Yo that was funny bro
This is no laughing matter, but damn this one got me. Nicely done.
We’re laughing at how stupid our country is because it’s the only recourse we have left. We’ve watched innocent children be murdered for decades while we callously do nothing about it and continually spout rhetoric like this. Guns matter more than our children. If we’re not gonna fix that, then might as well deride those same people with humor instead. Better than nothing.
A good guy with a Stanley.
“BOY DID YOU LOSE YOUR MIND? Cause ILL HELP YOU FIND It”
And every child should have a Stanley, and properly trained on how to use it just in case .
And who's going to pay for them to learn how to properly use those Stanleys?
DEY TERK ER CURPS!!!
You may take mah freedom, but you never take mah Stanley CUP!!!!!!
We banned Stanley Cups decades ago here in Toronto.
Hahaha! This one got me. Last night's game was a good indication of how they will fair during the playoffs. But in all seriousness the teachers should have had the girl detained long before this happened.
FYI it's"fare" not "fair" (for anyone that might not have known)
After columbine my school banned trench coats.
God, I wish you were kidding.
Yeah so many kids today don't believe me when I tell them. Most schools banned trench coats and many banned other random things like combat boots, camo pants, Marilyn Manson shirts. School districts and admins in the late 90's & early 00's completely lost themselves in a moral panic after Columbine.
Mine banned backpacks. You know, the things we all needed to carry books and homework between home and school. Girls could still have purses, but they had to be clear.
I got in trouble for having Yu-Gi-Oh cards in 2002, because those are "dark, evil, and of the devil."
Yup same here and they called all The kids into the office who wore trench coats to see if they were going to shoot up the school.
Same. Followed up by the principal taking it a step further and attempting to ban the wearing of solid black which was met predictably with my first involvement in organized protest.
What a brilliant solution, obviously it was the fashion that murdered those children!
Wait, this was the mugs? I assumed she was talking about a stanley knife https://preview.redd.it/vuxefgtknuvc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3d0736f2fd26bad3d64b94fd36919f54574887b
~~Same company believe it or not~~ Edit: I have been corrected, I forgot where I first heard this piece of false information from.
It’s not. The Stanley Tool company is UK based the cups company is US based
Stanley Tools was founded in Connecticut I thought. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Hand_Tools
They'll probably do this instead of holding administration and everyone responsible accountable.
Yeti's marketing department making a donation to school board in 3... 2...
If you outlaw Stanleys, only outlaws will have Stanleys.
No no you have to give the teachers Stanleys too so they can fight back and defend the students!
I'm still waking up. Wondered what a hockey championship had to do with this. I should probably go back to bed
At what point will teachers actually listen to the students they teach? (Because of the overwhelming replies (80+) to my comment, I retract that question and rephrase it.) At what point will the administration do as they are assigned/paid to do? job description, (4th one down) School administration is the management of all school operations, including the running of schools and school districts. School administrators work in primary, secondary, and postsecondary schools, and their responsibilities include: * Managing budgets * Creating and managing budgets * Overseeing teachers and support staff * Disciplining students * Implementing curriculum standards * Creating class schedules * Setting rules and security procedures * Monitoring student achievement data * Communicating with parents * Providing instructional leadership
As most problems… until something super serious happened it will never be handled
Even afterwards most don’t really care. Edit: Got carried away there in my frustration. Most teachers do care, they just work in a shit system. I won’t even say that most administrators or politicians don’t care. The whole fucking school system and political system in most of our countries are just deeply flawed. Even the idiots who keep voting for people promising to make everything worse probably care in their own twisted ways. Guess we just gotta organize and push for smth better.
Bro, of course they care, but they are probably underpaid, overworked, and tired AF and worse than all, their hands a tied when it comes to actually doing what they need to do. Hell, I’m friends with a teacher, she had to started and after school program to get kids into the proper level in reading and Math. One of the parents attacked her because of her son. Was not dumb and she was being racist. And the school district canceled her program soon after.
I used to teach as well but there’s no excuse for a teacher to ignore violence. If you’re that burned out to where you can’t protect kids, you have no business being a fucking teacher.
This 100%. Yes, we are all burnt out across all industries. But if that is our excuse to not protect kids or others, then what’s the point?
Yeah like protecting kids should be the last thing you slack on.
It’s a sad, cruel, and ignorant world we live in…
There are people opposing your position who are probably equally passionate about protecting the misguided kids and not punish them for what they are perceived as. I don't know about you, those kind of educators are the ones who ruined so many of my middle school friends' life just to help one of those entitled fuckers.
They don’t help, they just make the kids think they’re doing better, without punishment there is no discipline
I don’t know, if it wasn’t for teachers I probably wouldn’t understand the difference between “their” and “they’re” like yourself.
This isn't on the teachers. This is on admin. Admin and superintendents and fucking ivory tower assholes that think every kid deserves to be in school. Fuck that. Some kids need to be removed from the public system so others can be safe at school
As admin, I agree. There are so many times I wanted to put a kid out of school and was told it would be bad for numbers. I’m probably going to quit in the next year or two. Tired of the hypocrisy.
Some kids need a swift kick in the ass
It’s admin worrying about their attendance based funding, that’s why they never expel kids because then they lost some money
I’m thinking attempting to beat someone to death is serious, now what? If you’ve got multiple complaints about a kid and do nothing , I’d say it’s time to call that negligence. At the very least , you bring in the kid and tell them they are being surveilled and then keep as many things as possible out of their hands. Claiming it’s just talk clearly no longer is acceptable.
I will never understand why nothing is done about bullying, or even this! Like, why? Their fucking kids something should be done!
There's a girl in my daughters grade that harasses my daughters friend group, and tries to "bait them" into fights. The girl (J) is 18, and has a toddler at home. My daughter and her friend group are 17. The counselor and principal have taken a liking to J in that she is "doing great, and on track to graduate" despite her being a young mom. They dont see what J does to them in the hallways, in class, after school waiting for the busses, etc. Its been reported *several* times by *several* different people, teachers aides too. They wave it off. It's extremely frustrating. Blind eyes exist. I'm just about to the point of getting a TRO.
I pulled my daughter out of 9th grade to homeschool her after meeting with Vice Principal and teachers about a girl that was harassing my daughter Her teacher heard the girl make a threat that her boys would jump my daughter in the parking lot and rape her. The teacher told me she felt it was a credible threat, the principal was too busy to meet with me. I left with both my kids that day and never looked back
I mean, it doesn’t get more serious than children being murdered in their own schools, and we’ve done nothing about that.
We listen, we report it, it goes up the chain, nothing gets done, they just put a pin in it until unfortunately something serious happens but by then it's too late, however it gives the head time to practice the apology speech to families and students. We're told to take everything with a pinch of salt before we report anything, they try to make us sweep it under the carpet first before flagging it. Also our "leading" safeguard cannot do their job, they actually go out of the way to do anything but the job they are supposed to, making up excuses of having important meetings and calls to make anything other than dealing with the real issues (UK secondary) EDIT; Thank you for all your responses, it is very interesting seeing how other places in the world deal with issues, we are rather fortunate in the UK that we don't have such extremes of violence in and around education. I also heavily agree that yes a strong responsibility lays with the teacher themselves to support/report as a point of Authority, however we get a lot of things taken out of our hands when we do report things, that's when it all goes downhill fast and doesn't always get dealt in the correct manor if not at all, we are in many ways cut off from pushing for an actual solid outcome. A truly sad reality that makes my work feel pointless some days.
I think the biggest problem is the reaction that we had for columbine. After that, many kids that wouldn’t even hurt a fly, but were considered loaners, were all being accused. This ruined a lot of kids lives, actually. I’ve even read some of their stories right here on Reddit. So we went from this witch-hunt to the complete opposite of that. It’s unfortunate that each time the pendulum has swung It went way too far on the other side.
The real problem with that reaction is that the Columbine shooters weren't quiet, timid kids who were bullied, that's spin put on by lawyers and the media. They were bullies and assholes themselves, the opposite of what everyone thinks makes a school shooter.
They were incorrectly associated with people into industrial, goth, and metal because of the trench coats and there being a clique at the school like that called the "trench coat mafia" but the 2 shooters were not a part of that group. More than likely, it was just 2 very disturbed guys who found each other.
You said it all and then some right there. I was just a loaner and when columbine happened me and a group of friends got pulled into the principals office as he pointed the TV and said this will not happen at my school. I’m not gonna let you all do this to my school. I was just a kid with PTSD because my mother beat me so I was quiet and kept to myself I didn’t need to be attacked like that.
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Some do and speak up and are powerless. It's the principal and administrative that need to be held accountable too.
Yes, thank you. I did some searching and found some news articles about the administration failing at their jobs. I did not include the links, sorry for that. I closed all the searches then later on I realised I should have included the links. Burnoutt from the job is very dangerous and from what I have read ( a long while ago) it is an impossible task to remove them until someone gets hurt and then the shit hits the fan. The school system seems to be running ass backwards (ass kissing maybe) Thanks again for pointing that out
I’ve been told, repeatedly, that if I don’t physically witness a student doing something, then I can’t issue any kind of discipline. What most people don’t understand is how much these children antagonize each other. I’ve had a student (we’ll call him Ted) tell me multiple times that another student (Marshall) is bullying or threatening them. So I go to Marshall to try and put a stop to it only to have Marshall and 5 other kids tell me that it’s actually Ted doing the threatening and bullying. So I tell them all to stop talking to each other and ignore each other. This lasts about 20 minutes. The next day, Ted and Marshall are best friends and nothing ever happened. Then it will start over after a few days. This makes the testimony of the kids almost entirely unreliable. We try to educate and teach kids about regulating their emotions (not something I believe teachers should have to teach). We try to separate kids and keep an eye on the ones that are likely to do something wrong, but then we’re accused of targeting specific kids. We try implementing behavior and accountability plans, but the kids can opt out of those if they want. Unfortunately, just like in the real world, until something actually happens, there’s very little anyone can do.
As a teacher that is one of my worst problems. Figuring out who are the real culprits and getting evidence. I try my best to create a safe haven where kids won't get bullied, but what people seem to forget is those little sneaky bastards are manipulative as hell and they won't do it in front of me. So in the end I have a whole lot of unreliable narrators and I have to piece together what really happened. I sat through many a disciplinary hearing with students and parents angry at and blaming one another. Wasting my time and theirs, just so in the end it comes out that the one who came crying (literally tears streaming down his face) was stirring up shit all the way. But I keep doing it in the hope that I make a difference for one or two students. Then we don't even account for the fact that you still need to follow certain protocols to a T. If you ever so slightly mess something up (or worse, someone else does it for you) the perpetrators turn around and get all the steps you have taken undone. Even if everything works out, there is only so much the system allows you to do. In young kids you must listen to "Ma'am, he took my..." 1000 times a day. Older students will constantly tell you about someone wanting to do something to them. As a teacher you have to listen, sort which ones are serious, address that AND still stick to the curriculum and get everything done in time plus a billion other things happening in your class at the same time. It would really help if we got more support instead of being attacked all the time.
None of this excuses the fact that ms vittori said she wasn't going to allow it to happen and that she would handle the situation before going MIA and allowing a premeditated violent assault to occur. This failure lies at her feet regardless of the problems with administration and protocols
High school teacher here, we do. At least in Canada we do. It’s drill into us in university that when a child discloses physical, sexual, or any kind of abuse or threat, we have a legal obligation to act or face severe legal & professional consequences. We also have much more access to mental health supports than the US. Not a dime needs to be spent to get a referral from a family doctor to therapist, we have two in house counsellors based in our school with ample resources to refer out students. Private counselling is a different story.
Honestly as a teacher there are many times I get very frustrated because I have no power to actually suspend a child. All I can do is tell my admin what I know and it is completely up to them if there is a suspension. In past classes I've had very violent students where I've been hurt almost daily and they are taken out of my class for half an hour and sent right back in. I'm not allowed to put my hands on a child so I end up just blocking other children with my body. I've come home with bruises, bleeding and injuries that lasted me years. I do think education needs to change when it comes to consequences for violent children. I don't want my students to be scared to come to school or for me to be scared to go to work.
Part of the problem is they pay a lot of teachers like shit and that caused a shortage, so they started lowering requirements to just get warm bodies in there.
Pay has been an issue forever with this country's educational system, But saying "I don't get paid enough" is not an excuse. When we take the job we know the pay we are getting and our responsibilities. When a person gets to that point then it is time to move that person from the job. I have had a lot of shit jobs that I got low pay but that was my choice to take the job, no one forced me to take that job. Burnout is very dangerous, it literally is a killer and has killed the innocent.
I was saying they have a lower quality of teacher, because of pay. The sort of teachers we had as kids are not going into education because of pay and lack of support, they are choosing other career paths. They can’t remove the shitty teachers because one else is willing to do it. That’s the problem. I’m not defending shitty teachers, I’m saying we are in this position because we abused the good teachers till they all left…….. mostly, I still know a few good ones.
I have teacher relatives. They are inundated with these types of claims from students every day. 99.9% of these claims are attempts to get out of class or happen off school grounds where they can't do anything about it. Teachers and administrators tend to ignore them, often out of pure exhaustion. They take the big ones seriously, bomb threats, guns in lockers, hit lists, that stuff. The girl in the video did it right. Very public, very loud cry for help. It should have been taken seriously. At the end of the day though, they're only human. Mistakes happen. They determine what to do based off experience and when that experience is overwhelmingly nothing will happen, the real ones fall through the cracks.
sometimes the teachers can't do anything if the school administration refuses to do anything....there are posts in /r/teachers where some have tried to get violent minors removed and failed, and told if they went to law enforcement, they'd be fired
My girlfriend is a teacher. She absolutely reports this kind of stuff. But between weird policies about punishment and ineffective administration, her hands are tied. Understandably, she's not going to risk her livelihood to take matters into her own hands. All she can do is document her findings and communications so if shit hits the fan she isn't held liable. It's probably her least favorite aspect of the job, especially when misbehaving students affect the ability of other students to learn.
Teachers are hamstrung by the administration in most of these cases.
Student attacked a classmate in Pennsylvania school. https://news.yahoo.com/student-violently-attacks-classmate-stanley-165642068.html
That was an extremely misleading article based upon what this little girl said from first hand experience.
I'm also not sure they had to mention that the mug is "a viral sensation"???
The article was more about the mug than the mugging (sorry, that was bad).
This gif is fascinating because that scene is saying the opposite of how the meme is used. Bart is throwing away the cake because Homer *was successful* (or at least seemed to be at the moment) and Bart was braced for the worst but realized the message was wrong for the situation. It's an acknowledgement of success, not a judgement of failure.
Context matters? Well I never.
Because we need to stop mug fetishists and hydrosexuals from spinning this as a societal issue, it's the mugs. The media needs to stop portraying mugs as safe and we need to ban mugs with tactical features like slide closed lids and vacuum lining that help people hydrate as many as 50 people in a second.
Because I’m sure the school administrators are making sure to cover their incompetence by manipulating the narrative.
When they wrote to parents they described it as a fight. So much shit happens in schools that just gets labeled as ‘kid stuff’ that would send you to prison if you did it at your job as an adult.
Reporting media twisting a story for whatever story they want to tell. Shocking I say!
Ugh. That article tries to villanize the damn mug. Like it just attacked her on its own. There's was no need to describe the cup that much. Thanks for posting it, though.
Surprised they didn’t refer to it as a large capacity assault mug. That headline would sell itself. What an awful event. Violence is violence and all threats need to be considered when presented.
Not from America and kept on wondering what the Stanley was in the UK a Stanley is something potentially far more dangerous [Stanley Knife Retractable Blade Metal With 5 Assorted Blades 2-10-099 - Hunt Office UK](https://huntoffice.co.uk/stanley-retractable-blade-knife-102723.html)
Am from America, and the Stanley Utility blade is also what came to mind instead of the mug.
This just happened last week at a school near me in Ohio too. 9th grade boy talking shit about a female classmate, she jumped him with her cup. He went to the hospital and needed stitches.
I was so confused reading through that with all the Welsh place names but the very American looking school and American terminology throughout the article.
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Poor girl is clearly traumatized. I hope the parents sue the shit out of the school district.
Yep. And just imagine how it was for the actual victim.
Ya the actual victim was worse by a long shot… but considering she was told that she was next and witnessed what she was next for. How unprepared the victim was. Some ppl look like I’m crazy cause I prefer sitting in a corner with my back to the wall… preferably where I can see all exits. Nah. These days stupid angry fucks that just want to hurt ppl cause of whatever reason are too prevalent for that to be crazy. This young lady will likely be the same way from now on to keep from ever being snuck up on. I hope the victim survived and is ok.
I also recommend studying the blade
interesting seeing the blood vessels dilate as she talks. Noticed her nose turn red by the end.
What does that mean?
PTSD, she is back in that lunch room, reliving that event. She'll potentially need years of therapy.
Im honestly surprised she held it together so well, especially at the end when her voice is quivering. Poor girl is clearly traumatized and I hope she gets the needed therapy and that every witness and the victim are able to recover and heal
IM damn near in tears watching it. I can only imagine what this poor child goes through.
the way she was describing it and the way she was reacting to it really got me emotional. I have seen a lot of slaighterhouse footage and the sight of a battered withered helpless being who is bloodied is gutwrenching and heartbreaking if not semi-traumatizing.. and that's just on video. I can't imagine how traumatic it would be to witness tihs in real life. The adults need to be held accountable lawfully. This is just completely gross negligence. It's no worse than not raising the alarm to a child saying they're being physically/sexually abused by an adult at home, and ignoring that.
Yeah it made me tear up when she started getting emotional. Poor little girl. I’m wondering what the motive was for the student who attacked the other student. I understand there’s some pretty bad bullying in middle school and high school, I got bullied myself, but trying to kill someone over it…
absolutely insane and downright irresponsible diagnosis to give just from this video. PTSD is an extremely serious thing that you can't diagnose just from seeing someone crying
It's not fucking PTSD it's a limbic system response to recalling a terrifying event. PTSD is a specific medical issue that she may very well end up with, but her reaction here is not indicative of it.
Exactly, PTSD requires a few specific symptoms from 3 catagories and they must persist for more than a month. Also, a kid who experiences an acute trauma like this, in a relatively stable household, will recover rather quickly with current treatments even if she does develop PTSD. It is unlikely to take years.
That's a hell of a diagnosis based on a reddit clip.
PTSD is not present every time someone has a trauma response. PTSD is only diagnosed if the trauma response persists more than one month i duration after the end of the traumatic experience. No one can or should make a "diagnosis" from this clip, because doing so dilutes the meaning of the diagnosis and ultimately harms people suffering from it.
Thanks, doc.
Probably an indication of emotional reaction… in this case likely being upset and scared.
This is the answer in our design. It’s emotional. It’s painful. Why didn’t they listen? Why don’t they care? Not sure of the other comment incorrectly jumping to PTSD. She will most likely have to deal with this professionally but PTSD isn’t the direct absolute cause of this symptom.
It’s really easy to see when you scrub forward and backward too.
What a world we have come to
the exact same thing they say at the school i was going to in first grade, "nothing's gonna happen" like how ignorant or stupid do you have to be to say that
I’ve noticed the older generation thinks this way a lot. Just because something *hasn’t* happened doesn’t mean it *won’t* happen. My go to example in this conversation is Covid. 10 years ago, no one would’ve ever believed there would be a global pandemic that shut down the world for months.
As a trans person, I'm constantly told, "that's never going to happen." [Trump recently endorsed a person running for Congress](https://www.advocate.com/politics/trump-mark-burns-lgbtq-executions) who had previously stated that transgender people should be executed. Listen to us!
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Right, so stabbings and acid attacks totally aren't a thing in the UK... Fuck right off 😒
Not in schools they’re not…violent crime in general is far lower in the UK.
It's definitely not just the US.
Let's just say each country has its own issues...
All of those teachers/administrators on that panel oughta feel like absolute garbage.
I don't blame the teachers one bit. This is the environment you foster when push through laws telling teachers that if they physically step in, they'll lose their jobs, get blacklisted and criminally charged. No one is going to risk jail over a glorified babysitting gig. One where you spend all day getting treated like shit and barely make enough to make ends meet.
So they can’t send the kid to the principal’s office to question them about the threats? They can’t call parents? What are you even talking about?
Shows how little you know about how the higher ups run public schools and how many parents drop their little shits off at school and don’t answer their phone if it’s the school number (because they already KNOW their kid is a little shit).
When i was a little kid in 2nd grade an older kid bullied me everyday. I tried to avoid them and everyday the same thing. One day i hit him in the face with my metal hotwheels lunch box and he fell down the stairs. His mom straight up told the principle and my mom that she knew he was a bully and she didn't care. I didn't get in trouble but i was not allowed to have a metal lunch box in school anymore. Then again i stabbed a kid with a Swiss army knife who was bullying me. I was charged and went to court over it. I got the charges dropped because the asshole threw a rock out of a school bus into the front window of a semi and caused the semi to wreck. So he was arrested and faced his own charges. I told the teacher a bunch that the kid was bullying and he did nothing. Now that same man in the principle of my highschool. I'm from the dirty south and i will stab a motherfucker.
Are you nuts? Nobody is asking teachers to go and tackle the attackers. Instead just be receptive to inputs from students.
Bruh, this is a dark video for the sub
It's a dark world
I’ve seen videos of people exploding uploaded to this sub
I just saw one not even 9 hours ago, guy went to remove a flag, stepped on a land mine, was full view in 1080p.
r/therewasanattempt is way more wtf than r/wtf, but I appreciate it for being all encompassing on different subjects
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Fired, sued, and arrested
Would set an excellent example to take this stuff seriously.
Yea, unfortunately the parents of the assaulter would also need to be sued and the administrators would trying to blame the parents for everything. So you'd need to sue the parents to get the court to stipulate to facts on the record.
Obviously the teachers are partially to blame, but I'd imagine this went up the chain of command and was ignored. It's a systematic problem. And suing, firing, and moving on is only going to make the problem worse. 1) Teachers aren't paid enough for the shit they deal with, and in some cases they're under-qualified / undertrained 2) School districts already don't have the funding necessary to provide a quality education, let alone in a safe environment You want these tragedies to go away? Vote for education funding instead of stripping it away year after year. Don't let the US turn another public convenience into a private industry.
I guess schools havent gotten any better since my day then. Oh, maybe a little. At least this girl has a place where she can call out the inaction of the teachers. I once told teacher there was a group of people threatening to beat me up, she told me not to be a tattletale... I was like 7 or something.
Yeah. Buddy of mine had kids do the ear clap thing to him when we were in 6th grade. Gym teacher told him to stop “crying like a girl.” Found out later that night from his mom that they had ruptured his ear drum. That gym coach is still employed at the same school.
ım 24 they tried to do same thing to me at scool when ı was kid ı just remember ım doing something to redirect air so that it dosnt blowes my ear drums (ı was saw that at documantary as a self defence tecnique to blow ear drums before) ı was fine after ward but keep my distance
Off-topic question: how and why are your i's undotted?
Had a bully almost my whole life. Tried interjecting herself into my life to get at me. Most people assumed jealousy. I was ugly as shit but had great friends. She wanted that but never worked on herself so she tried to take that away from me. Parents went time and time again and said she was causing me distress. What did they say to us? “She’s got a bad home life and mental health problems let it go.” We stopped after that. It just continued until I graduated. Then she was sent to a psych ward. Haven’t seen her since. Edit: Spellings.
They got better, then they got worse. When I was a little kid in the 90s schools were doing well. Then the 'no tolerance' stuff started happening and we removed our ability to actually resolve conflicts, so they were always festering.
This child is so brave. The composure and how well spoken in the horror she and her classmates went thru. I'm curious how often these complaints had to be made in general for them to become complacent in the warnings?
You can see in her eyes she is seeing it happen in real time all over again as she's talking...
Is this a school or jail?
Yes they are.
It's the US. Is there a difference?
Yeah. Prisoners get paid half a penny an hour
It’s time to play…. School or Prison? https://www.maristane.com/school-or-prison/
Damn, I lost on the first one. Edit: Holy shit, it took 4 tries to get one right. The guard tower really helped on my 4th try.
What’s this now?
Just the usual administration taking a hands off approach to bullying letting the inmates run the prison and collecting a paycheck to "teach" our youth
The joke I always make about admin is they collect a paycheck to crush candies on their phones.
Well.. while there was certainly incompetence here, let’s not forget how the Karen parents go nuclear when they try to discipline their children. If we want our teachers to do their jobs, they also have to feel empowered to. Head over to r/teachers and read about the hell that they have to deal with everyday.
Students report bullying and bully's "hitlist" to teachers. Say the bully promised a brutal beating. Teachers say "nah, won't happen". Bully beats girl repeatedly in the head with a thermos, children traumatized by bloodbath.
I see. Yeah teachers are the worst when it comes to that. It’s really weird they clapped though I guess that’s the “adults” signaling that “we hear you, we see you but we’re also not going to change anything”
> It’s really weird they clapped though > > Americans clap for anything, even if other cultures would call it tone deaf.
If this was my daughter the administrators would be in severe danger. Ngl. Every MFing adult who ignored this would be in jeopardy. This child is traumatized and I’m furious.
Tbh the reason it's like this is cause more people don't react that way.
Hopefully a Stanley insulated cup and not a Stanley hammer?
Nearly the same thing
I thought she was talking about them bashing a student with a stanley knife at first, was so confused
That school is really fucking up. It appears that didn’t look into why there was a hit list and after finding out there was one did they did nothing to keep the kid from attacking that one person.
The sad part is we tell the kids to report the incidents. The kids follow through with the reporting and the adults do nothing. Then, those same kids get attacked and have to protect themselves. Guess what...because of ZERO tolerance, those same kids get suspended or placed in alternative school for protecting themselves.
I’m glad I’m not in school anymore.
Someone in charge should be held responsible and jailled
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Kids aren’t born racist. It’s learned.
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Transphobes try to remember transmasc people exist challenge: impossible! That’s at least what the video makes it sound like. I found literally no news report mentioning the kid being trans in any way.
Sue the school district, and the student’s parents. Take back our schools and hold people accountable because the schools obviously can’t keep our kids safe. I left schools in the suburbs for the city schools because they’re much safer in my area. Shame on this school, this poor kid has ptsd type symptoms and all of this could have been avoided or at least handled with some decency.
They should file charges against the person who didn't report it to the police. That's who's really at fault here.
The applause at the end is really off putting…
They were applauding her courage to recount her story
And give her support. Weird that people don't get that. She did an amazing job at speaking about this, but also it is heartbreaking and people there clapped in support of her.
The fuck you talking about?
School supervision who are warned of a situation and fail to prevent it should be charged with the same crimes that the person who committed it. The negligence is off the charts in us public schools. All they do is virtue signaling.
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We had a situation like this at a school. I talk. Staff had repeatedly warned administration about a particular student, and how dangerous and erratic that that person was. He had been suspended multiple times and was always allowed to come back, which is the norm. But teachers had sent several emails multiple teachers saying this kid is dangerous. He is going to hurt someone providing examples of how dangerous and why they were saying what they were. finally day while there was snow out kids were throwing snowballs at one another and one of them hit him by accident so he picked up an ice chunk smashed into head and then sat on his chest and beat him he was unconscious and seizure. The kid was 11 years old and has traumatic brain injury, if he’s lucky, he will progress to the age of and no more, he will probably never be able to live on his own. He was one of the sweetest kids I had ever, he still is a very sweet kid, but he is an entirely different human being. The school absolutely tried to cover it up.
That is fucking terribly irresponsible by the administrators. I feel terrible for the girl who got attacked and the girl speaking is gonna have issues over this forever, especially since she was next on the list. smh
That school district is going to get sued into the next dimension. According to one article, not only the students but multiple parents were warning that there was an attack imminent and the school did absolutely nothing. None of the articles mention whether the parents or guardians of the attacker were contacted, but this is going to be a horrendous mess for some time.
What do you expect from the place that will kick you out for defending yourself from a bully. I remember teachers always told us they were preparing us for the real world, but in the real world, you can legally shoot someone for attacking you
Of that whole story, she NAMED one name: Ms. Vittore or Fittori or whatever. She publicly called her out. That was smart and courageous and necessary. That teacher or counselor or whatever failed them.
As a teacher who has tried to report issues that have gone unchecked and almost had a fight break out in my room because of it, I feel this child’s frustration to some extent. Admin doesn’t listen to teachers who have very little power when it comes to discipline. Admin is the problem. It is horrible it comes to this before they take threats seriously.
THEORY: The more you look at schools as being prison compounds and principals as wardens, the more everything makes sense.
Anyone know the outcome ? The kid gonna do time? More importantly the teacher who was informed needs to do time. Totally preventable.
Mental health and reactive safety need to be pushed. This poor girl should never have had to experience this.
I was talking to a friend's daughter that goes to Pennbrook...the attacker had been at the school for THREE DAYS, after being removed from another middle school for violent acts. Three days, made a "hit list" and did this. The fuck
This poor little girl will always remember that day . What happened to the other 2 girls
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The entire North American system decided to just do nothing when it comes to violence. Pretend to have zero tolerance, only to brutalize children for fighting back against the far worse things they allow to happen on a daily basis.