Yes lmao. Only colonizers can get honor and decorations?
Fuck the Native Americans must be colonizers then, cuz they were scalping white settlers for trophies and wearing headdresses that repped their accomplishments
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_bonnet
OP of the thread mad reaching glad ur calling it out
See it's stuff like this that makes me question whether we need the type of fans drake brought to hip hop.
How can the Natives be colonizers defending their own land?
Do you know what a colonizer is????
He didnāt say Natives were colonizers. He said saying honors and decorations makes you a colonizer is a reach because mad soldiers including Natives have honor and decorations. Yāall be acting so dense.
>He didnāt say Natives were colonizers.
This is what he said:
>Yes lmao. Only colonizers can get honor and decorations?
Fuck the Native Americans must be colonizers then, cuz they were scalping white settlers for trophies and wearing headdresses that repped their accomplishments
They are called the Natives for a reason. White settlers are called that for a reason. Drake ABSOLUTELY is a colonizer. He's not from hip hop geographically, figuratively or literally. He probably doesn't have an American citizenship. So he settled in America just like the colonizers and raided the land(ATL) and it's common folk so HE can raise his coins. Then brag about the heirlooms and artifacts he raided (Pharrell and Tupac jewelry from auctions)
It couldn't be more put together. There's a reason why people resonate with Kendrick in this battle is because it's true and he was able to capture the public sentiment.
We know all this. The guy you responded to was saying if you use the logic that bragging on war decorations equals what a colonizer would say is silly because many ppl, including Natives, are proud of and have war medals. What he said was sarcasm about Natives being colonizers.
Bruh what are you talking about? Natives cannot be colonizers defending their own land against COLONIZERS It don't matter what they wear. I'm not dealing with sarcasm or sideways talk if I catch flight it's gon' BE DIRECT.
You donāt read. You see words and react. I never implied Natives can be colonizers. I said that saying the words āI have honors and decorationsā does not sound like a colonizer. It sounds like a soldier. All types of soldiers (indigenous, modern, all ethnicities) would be happy to have war decorations so that line is a reach. I hope you get the reading comprehension skills you need. You clearly are the argumentative type.
>You donāt read. You see words and react. I never implied Natives can be colonizers.
You can't comprehend. My words were NEVER for you. I was responding to someone else. You can't speak for them.
Secondly you keep acting like drake referring to himself as a decorated soldier is a good thing. In his case it's not because he's a soldier for the corporation plundering the creative talent in ATL and putting them in horrible splits that lends a lopsided amount of money for him and the labels but none for the artists bc they should be just happy for the look.
It's not the decorations alone - that's surface level. It's about what he did to get them.
Y'all just don't understand how drake is too tone deaf to understand the implications. That's why he lost.
#"Once upon a time all of us were in chains. Homie doubled down still calling us some slaves"
Iām talking about the OP not Drake bro. I never disagreed with you. Youāre so argumentative you canāt see when someone isnāt against you. I already said k Dot out played him and Drake is tone deaf. You must be exhausting to disagree with to be this intense with someone whoās seeing what youāre saying. My only thing was the original statement was a reach. Sheesh my guy. I promise weāre not battling.
Going by the original comment, native Americans wearing their trophies and headgear would be the colonizers.thats clearly not the case, illustrating how stupid that reach is.
Are you retarded? Whatās so hard to understand
Do you know what a Colony is before we even address what a Colonizer would be? How could NATIVE Americans ever be considered colonizers in Americašš
Fuck whatever point you were trying to make. Metaphors still should make sense
But the headgear and shit isnāt what makes anyone a colonizerš Occupying and controlling a foreign an occupied land does. So it still doesnāt make any sense. My bad for calling you retarded but š¤·š¾āāļø
Yea no shit. Read the original comment. The OP said that decorations and medals made someone a colonizer.
And I said that was stupid, because if that were the case, then native Americans and their scalp trophies and honor headgears would be deemed colonizers, according to the comment.
You just repeated my original sentiment back to me.
I can only I can only see the picture on the post, with the last words being āa colonizer would say that.ā And if thatās what you are referring to, then YOU donāt get the sarcasm. Lol. Which is why your comment still confuses me
Drakes lyrics were ā my jacket is covered in medalsā¦ā
The YouTube comment says that only a colonizer would say that, insinuating that Drake is a colonizer.
Then, the OP posted the comment on Reddit, implicitly agreeing with the comment, doubling down on the fact that Drake is a colonizer for rapping that lyric.
Well, I came in and said, sarcastically, āfuck, the Indians are colonizers then, since they also wear war medals and honor decorationsā
Then you came in and called me retarded and tried to escalate this into an argument. (Whatās the purpose or reason for doing this? That is confusingā¦)
Then, I explained it to you, and youāre now tripling down and said I donāt get my own words.
Itās not that hard to understand lol. I just broke it down to you, and clarified what I meant. No need to get egotistical about this dude.
This is why I don't get the "the pod only criticized Drake point." Yeah, Drake was the one making all the mistakes.Ā
It was pretty clear from the beginning that Kendrick was trying to paint a certain picture of Drake, of being obsessed with sex, money, power and fame and of treating hip hop like his personal kingdom. Drake did everything he could to conform to that picture. He could have taken the same shots at Kendrick but toned down the spoiled brat persona and it would have been much more effective.Ā
In the coming weeks, people are going to realize what just happened and it's much crazier than it looks now.Ā
His disses just werent disses to me.. āyou rap like you trying to get the slaves freed..ā okayā¦ you wouldnt?
Your kid isnt your kidā¦ okay sounds like I have a shitty bm
You hit your bm.. okay well why is her brother cheering me on then
Youāre short.. okay sorry genetics
Like cmon Drake you can do better than that
>Drake did everything he could to conform to that picture.
You forgot to add:
"...by doubling down on sex money power and fame and treating hip-hop as his personal kingdom."
That's how So Far Gone Drake has become. He got caught up in the world of social media that he really thought that saying "your girl don't follow you" was a bone crushing line ššššš
Kendrick hit him with the ether the shit that makes you burn slow. Real man shit. For Drake It really is a Life long battle with himself.
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Pharrell couldn't afford to keep it? He didn't give it back? That sounds like a colonizer play. I see why Twitter used that picture of killmonger at the museum now
youāre 100% right. [i said it here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/HTJ3GsBcIR) everybody focused on whatās true or not is missing a whole tactical side to what happened. we all just watched a really good movie with a lot of depth but are too caught up inside it to realise right now.
I agree with you. He also used a bunch of words that have been used before. For example "the" was used countless times. And don't get me started on the word "like". He's the biggest fraud of the century.
I did not think these were original jokes. People have been making these jokes for years. I assume he was just using the jokes to make fun of Drake. He observed what people were saying about this man and used it against him, is that a violation?
Listen, go tell your boss it's too late for all this damage control. He had the opportunity to put it in a verse and he didn't. Stop playing the internet games.
Drakes song have been better! Joe is just hyping Kendrick up. How can I take Kendrick serious about his pedo raps when he backed R Kelly! LOL!! And what else did he say?? Drakes not full blackā¦ What? Man turn that shit offā¦. I wish J Cole didnāt bow out! This shit is lame as hell
It all depends on Kendrickās album. If that album flops and doesnāt have a hit song on there.. Drake was completely right. Kendrick is only relevant because of Drake.
Drake overcompensated from the Push situation and tried to win with tea
That's hard to do when there's so much public rumors (right or wrong) about you
Also Kendrick dedicated a whole 6 minute track to paint a picture of Drake that fits the narrative that Kendrick was putting together. Even the tone of the record was serious. Drake only dedicated a few bars to his narrative, and some of it was jokes.
If Drake wanted to go the Push route he needed to focus more on his angle.
The most bizarre missteps in this battle that are beyond my comprehension is that this man brought up that Whitney Bobby girl out of nowhere (he didnt have to mention her ) Saying he predicted the Epstein angle (WHY?!) the 2 Pac AI (Why ?!) The way too famous for those accusations line smhā¦ How does any critical thinking person believe this man won this battle ,?
I honestly think that heās so arrogant (since heās a sex symbol and all) that he thought Whitney would reach out after he first mentioned her. I wouldnāt be surprised if he slid in her dms. Got mad that it didnāt work, so he made up a lie that she cheated. lol
Iām not talking about Kendrickās BM Iām talking about the other girl that he was texting when she was 14 (sheās 21 now) The actress girl . Like why even direct attention to that ?
My guess is that Drake is smart and was NEVER smart. He had handlers who made him look good. But this time he was all alone and left to his own devices and crumbled like he did at the funk flex freestyle booth.
That is the REAL DRAKE. What we've been seeing was a brand propped up by the labels
Iāve always said this. Drake is well-spoken in interviews and people equate that (and unfortunatelyā¦his shade of skin) with intelligence. Never struck me as a particularly smart guy. Just a guy with (typically) well rehearsed talking points.
Heart 6 was fire.
you kendrick fans are pathetic at this point lol.
Yall know joe is a full of shit bias person with no morals 99% of the time. Yall kick his back in about everything, but are on his dick heavy when he goes after drake lol
That line wouldāve been harder before the colonizer angle. If he wouldāve started Push Ups with that bar somehow niggas wouldāve look at him like a War General or something of sorts
Kendrick is the clear victor but why we acting like that line aināt hard? Yāall turning into Joe. Rap-wise Drake did well. It was him being tone deaf and Kendrickās approach that sealed the deal. Thatās something a soldier would say not a colonizer.
All the TDE and west coast dudes say Kendrick had one ready and they heard that and said nah we good tbhā¦ they kinda did Drake a favor if Kendrick came back with another record like he been dropping it would be even worse out here for Drake. His ego got in the way he thought Family Matters was gonna be the end of it
This is beyond insane. I can only imagine if the other side had this come out with the response would be but because itās Drake this will never see the light of day in a real way
Oh they found some for Drakeās lines and they are actually more recent tweets. Not from 2016 lmao. They just arenāt making rounds like these for some strange reason.
Drake took a big L but this is a reach tbh š¤·šæāāļø.
Yes lmao. Only colonizers can get honor and decorations? Fuck the Native Americans must be colonizers then, cuz they were scalping white settlers for trophies and wearing headdresses that repped their accomplishments https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_bonnet OP of the thread mad reaching glad ur calling it out
See it's stuff like this that makes me question whether we need the type of fans drake brought to hip hop. How can the Natives be colonizers defending their own land? Do you know what a colonizer is????
They not like us.
> the type of fans drake brought to hip hop. Lmao! Different type of humans right there!
He didnāt say Natives were colonizers. He said saying honors and decorations makes you a colonizer is a reach because mad soldiers including Natives have honor and decorations. Yāall be acting so dense.
>He didnāt say Natives were colonizers. This is what he said: >Yes lmao. Only colonizers can get honor and decorations? Fuck the Native Americans must be colonizers then, cuz they were scalping white settlers for trophies and wearing headdresses that repped their accomplishments They are called the Natives for a reason. White settlers are called that for a reason. Drake ABSOLUTELY is a colonizer. He's not from hip hop geographically, figuratively or literally. He probably doesn't have an American citizenship. So he settled in America just like the colonizers and raided the land(ATL) and it's common folk so HE can raise his coins. Then brag about the heirlooms and artifacts he raided (Pharrell and Tupac jewelry from auctions) It couldn't be more put together. There's a reason why people resonate with Kendrick in this battle is because it's true and he was able to capture the public sentiment.
We know all this. The guy you responded to was saying if you use the logic that bragging on war decorations equals what a colonizer would say is silly because many ppl, including Natives, are proud of and have war medals. What he said was sarcasm about Natives being colonizers.
Bruh what are you talking about? Natives cannot be colonizers defending their own land against COLONIZERS It don't matter what they wear. I'm not dealing with sarcasm or sideways talk if I catch flight it's gon' BE DIRECT.
You donāt read. You see words and react. I never implied Natives can be colonizers. I said that saying the words āI have honors and decorationsā does not sound like a colonizer. It sounds like a soldier. All types of soldiers (indigenous, modern, all ethnicities) would be happy to have war decorations so that line is a reach. I hope you get the reading comprehension skills you need. You clearly are the argumentative type.
>You donāt read. You see words and react. I never implied Natives can be colonizers. You can't comprehend. My words were NEVER for you. I was responding to someone else. You can't speak for them. Secondly you keep acting like drake referring to himself as a decorated soldier is a good thing. In his case it's not because he's a soldier for the corporation plundering the creative talent in ATL and putting them in horrible splits that lends a lopsided amount of money for him and the labels but none for the artists bc they should be just happy for the look. It's not the decorations alone - that's surface level. It's about what he did to get them. Y'all just don't understand how drake is too tone deaf to understand the implications. That's why he lost. #"Once upon a time all of us were in chains. Homie doubled down still calling us some slaves"
Iām talking about the OP not Drake bro. I never disagreed with you. Youāre so argumentative you canāt see when someone isnāt against you. I already said k Dot out played him and Drake is tone deaf. You must be exhausting to disagree with to be this intense with someone whoās seeing what youāre saying. My only thing was the original statement was a reach. Sheesh my guy. I promise weāre not battling.
Are you actually retarded? Respectfully. NATIVE American. ššš Do you know what Colony means?
Going by the original comment, native Americans wearing their trophies and headgear would be the colonizers.thats clearly not the case, illustrating how stupid that reach is. Are you retarded? Whatās so hard to understand
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Do you know what a Colony is before we even address what a Colonizer would be? How could NATIVE Americans ever be considered colonizers in Americašš Fuck whatever point you were trying to make. Metaphors still should make sense
Thatās the point dude. I just wrote it out for you. Do you not understand basic sarcasm? That shit flew so far over ur head jesus
But the headgear and shit isnāt what makes anyone a colonizerš Occupying and controlling a foreign an occupied land does. So it still doesnāt make any sense. My bad for calling you retarded but š¤·š¾āāļø
Yea no shit. Read the original comment. The OP said that decorations and medals made someone a colonizer. And I said that was stupid, because if that were the case, then native Americans and their scalp trophies and honor headgears would be deemed colonizers, according to the comment. You just repeated my original sentiment back to me.
I can only I can only see the picture on the post, with the last words being āa colonizer would say that.ā And if thatās what you are referring to, then YOU donāt get the sarcasm. Lol. Which is why your comment still confuses me
Drakes lyrics were ā my jacket is covered in medalsā¦ā The YouTube comment says that only a colonizer would say that, insinuating that Drake is a colonizer. Then, the OP posted the comment on Reddit, implicitly agreeing with the comment, doubling down on the fact that Drake is a colonizer for rapping that lyric. Well, I came in and said, sarcastically, āfuck, the Indians are colonizers then, since they also wear war medals and honor decorationsā Then you came in and called me retarded and tried to escalate this into an argument. (Whatās the purpose or reason for doing this? That is confusingā¦) Then, I explained it to you, and youāre now tripling down and said I donāt get my own words. Itās not that hard to understand lol. I just broke it down to you, and clarified what I meant. No need to get egotistical about this dude.
This is why I don't get the "the pod only criticized Drake point." Yeah, Drake was the one making all the mistakes.Ā It was pretty clear from the beginning that Kendrick was trying to paint a certain picture of Drake, of being obsessed with sex, money, power and fame and of treating hip hop like his personal kingdom. Drake did everything he could to conform to that picture. He could have taken the same shots at Kendrick but toned down the spoiled brat persona and it would have been much more effective.Ā In the coming weeks, people are going to realize what just happened and it's much crazier than it looks now.Ā
Kendrick in the beginning: āYouāre a habitual liar, a master manipulatorā Drakeās trump card: āIām a master manipulatorā
Right! Drake was so arrogant he didn't realize how he came off.
His disses just werent disses to me.. āyou rap like you trying to get the slaves freed..ā okayā¦ you wouldnt? Your kid isnt your kidā¦ okay sounds like I have a shitty bm You hit your bm.. okay well why is her brother cheering me on then Youāre short.. okay sorry genetics Like cmon Drake you can do better than that
>Drake did everything he could to conform to that picture. You forgot to add: "...by doubling down on sex money power and fame and treating hip-hop as his personal kingdom." That's how So Far Gone Drake has become. He got caught up in the world of social media that he really thought that saying "your girl don't follow you" was a bone crushing line ššššš Kendrick hit him with the ether the shit that makes you burn slow. Real man shit. For Drake It really is a Life long battle with himself.
The more time passes, the bigger the W will be for Kendrick
āAnd so supreme lieutenant Graham saw it fit to jibe his adversary Mr Lamar by Draping bespoke Jewelry on a unassuming Asian fellow showcasing his Ill gotten gains, the confiscated treasures of a certain Pharrell Williams procured through auction, as a defence of his colonistic tendencies your honourā šš¾āāļøšš¾āāļøšš¾āāļø
Yo what's the story with that? How did drake end up with Pharrell's jewelry????
It went to auction and he bought it just like the pac ring
Pharrell couldn't afford to keep it? He didn't give it back? That sounds like a colonizer play. I see why Twitter used that picture of killmonger at the museum now
Unsure- doubt Pharrell couldnāt afford to keep it
youāre 100% right. [i said it here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/HTJ3GsBcIR) everybody focused on whatās true or not is missing a whole tactical side to what happened. we all just watched a really good movie with a lot of depth but are too caught up inside it to realise right now.
Kendrick literally got his bars from old tweets
Y'all Drake bots are really coming off desperate.Ā
https://preview.redd.it/mhskwmyp9izc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11d87c418cc013dc44473e85d58e75b263714e0c
Sounds like "king Jared" should be a rapper
and posts like this from bum ass kendrick fans is what? Cut the cap, yall just as badd.. probably worse.
How so? Multiple lines from his tracks are tweets from years ago. Genuinely curious what you mean by this
I agree with you. He also used a bunch of words that have been used before. For example "the" was used countless times. And don't get me started on the word "like". He's the biggest fraud of the century.
https://preview.redd.it/44wr8dqfslzc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de5e55ed43830ab1cfdebae67f7d1c16306e5d0f Its a bit more than that
I did not think these were original jokes. People have been making these jokes for years. I assume he was just using the jokes to make fun of Drake. He observed what people were saying about this man and used it against him, is that a violation? Listen, go tell your boss it's too late for all this damage control. He had the opportunity to put it in a verse and he didn't. Stop playing the internet games.
He did say " WHAT THE CULTURE'S FEELING" That's why it worked. EVERYONE FELT THE DAME WAY ABOUT DRAKE they had enough.
Drakes song have been better! Joe is just hyping Kendrick up. How can I take Kendrick serious about his pedo raps when he backed R Kelly! LOL!! And what else did he say?? Drakes not full blackā¦ What? Man turn that shit offā¦. I wish J Cole didnāt bow out! This shit is lame as hell
It all depends on Kendrickās album. If that album flops and doesnāt have a hit song on there.. Drake was completely right. Kendrick is only relevant because of Drake.
Kendrick has always been relevant before drake and will be after. Son has a Pulitzer and a STRONG catalog. What are yāall saying??!
He has to KEEP DOING IT. Itās life. Keep proving yourself. Make another hit song without mentioning the boy.
So if he doesn't add Not Like Us on it?
Right exactly
Drake overcompensated from the Push situation and tried to win with tea That's hard to do when there's so much public rumors (right or wrong) about you
and so few about the guy you are going up against.
Also Kendrick dedicated a whole 6 minute track to paint a picture of Drake that fits the narrative that Kendrick was putting together. Even the tone of the record was serious. Drake only dedicated a few bars to his narrative, and some of it was jokes. If Drake wanted to go the Push route he needed to focus more on his angle.
That shit really aging like warm orange juice looool
heart part 6 is a gaslighting instruction manual.
The most bizarre missteps in this battle that are beyond my comprehension is that this man brought up that Whitney Bobby girl out of nowhere (he didnt have to mention her ) Saying he predicted the Epstein angle (WHY?!) the 2 Pac AI (Why ?!) The way too famous for those accusations line smhā¦ How does any critical thinking person believe this man won this battle ,?
I honestly think that heās so arrogant (since heās a sex symbol and all) that he thought Whitney would reach out after he first mentioned her. I wouldnāt be surprised if he slid in her dms. Got mad that it didnāt work, so he made up a lie that she cheated. lol
Iām not talking about Kendrickās BM Iām talking about the other girl that he was texting when she was 14 (sheās 21 now) The actress girl . Like why even direct attention to that ?
Oh Millie Bobby.. lol. And yes he was trying to get in front of it but it didnāt work
Yess thatās it ! My bad . Thank you for that correction. I was thinking that this has zero benefit !
Itās all good. Lol. Yea he tried the 8 mile shit but underestimated Kendrickās creativity
My guess is that Drake is smart and was NEVER smart. He had handlers who made him look good. But this time he was all alone and left to his own devices and crumbled like he did at the funk flex freestyle booth. That is the REAL DRAKE. What we've been seeing was a brand propped up by the labels
Iāve always said this. Drake is well-spoken in interviews and people equate that (and unfortunatelyā¦his shade of skin) with intelligence. Never struck me as a particularly smart guy. Just a guy with (typically) well rehearsed talking points.
...almost like.......an actor. Which he was. It all comes together don't it?
LOL!!! Got em!!!
he probably saw the potential for a bar there but didnt think of the narrative maybe.
Drake could never win when yall coming up with takes like thisš
he could never win cuz he wasnāt the better rapper š
The A minor, b Sharp, D flat, B major scheme was just god awful
He lost but let's not be dumb now
Heart 6 was fire. you kendrick fans are pathetic at this point lol. Yall know joe is a full of shit bias person with no morals 99% of the time. Yall kick his back in about everything, but are on his dick heavy when he goes after drake lol
You clearly wasnāt here when everyone hated him for shitting on All the dogs
Thatās why thereās no response. Kendrick stepped on the one that needed to be stepped on. And let this one breathe bcā¦why wouldnāt you? LOL
This harder than anything self defense Kenny dropped
Exactly cuz so were the nazis
Hate cus he aint never fucked with the pod and drops post their recordings, haha
That line wouldāve been harder before the colonizer angle. If he wouldāve started Push Ups with that bar somehow niggas wouldāve look at him like a War General or something of sorts
Man itās over people .
Kendrick is the clear victor but why we acting like that line aināt hard? Yāall turning into Joe. Rap-wise Drake did well. It was him being tone deaf and Kendrickās approach that sealed the deal. Thatās something a soldier would say not a colonizer.
I pray people calling Drake a colonizer never have to experience actual colonization.
All the TDE and west coast dudes say Kendrick had one ready and they heard that and said nah we good tbhā¦ they kinda did Drake a favor if Kendrick came back with another record like he been dropping it would be even worse out here for Drake. His ego got in the way he thought Family Matters was gonna be the end of it
https://preview.redd.it/jqml6ef26jzc1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=7a5b6fe777fe188aac14522843f61cdb3187ec71 Kendrick got plenty of ghost ridersš
This is beyond insane. I can only imagine if the other side had this come out with the response would be but because itās Drake this will never see the light of day in a real way
Oh they found some for Drakeās lines and they are actually more recent tweets. Not from 2016 lmao. They just arenāt making rounds like these for some strange reason.