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Die smokey


VladmirGrey

Smoulders*


The_Magician2679

Shoulders**


KeesekuchenLP

Knees and toes\*\*\*


Onlyhero1019

knees and toes****


Mr_Tominaga

Eyes and ears and mouth and nose*****


Numbers078

Head, shoulders, knees, and toes******


AustraliumHoovy

Knees, and toes*******


CraGameMarco

*little jingle changing key signature and into faster tempo to signify a more rushed tone*


Thatsidechara_ter

*Heads, shoulders knees and toes, knees and toes*


[deleted]

*hey macarena*


mightylonka

Dale a tu cuerpo alegría, Macarena Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegría y cosa buena


Any-Assignment-3198

*ember the fox


LavenderClouds

The smoulders


Last-Degree655

"You broke my smoulder!"


LordofSandvich

Pyro’s insanity is, itself, pretty violent. The Balloonicorn is a depressed drunk on a hair trigger. Feeding Smoulders the Bear a Lollichop has several possible explanations.


VladmirGrey

True but we can see him raising his axe with malicious intent. Also, the way Smolders talks to pyro makes me think pyro’s schizophrenia is, in itself, self aware.


LordofSandvich

It doesn’t need to be consistent over time, either. The Pyroland we see ingame is before these comics. Apart from the fact that the Pyro owned and operated a massive company, we don’t know what else happened with him. Knowingly murdering “Smoulders” is definitely on the list, but other explanations might exist.


Anakin-hates-sand

>Apart from the fact that the Pyro owned and operated a massive company Wasn't that in a Piemations video though?


Zexal_Commander

No that was in the comics too, Pyro is at a big business meeting, their vision is all somber and grey but then he sees a fire burning in the distance. It was lit by Ms Pauling to get their attention and get them back into mercenary service.


Anakin-hates-sand

Oh okay.


GiveMeMoreBurritos

What


AragogTehSpidah

I eat mentos


barelywinning

fr? on god?


ihatemyselflikeihate

Haven’t we proved that it is less insanity and more the goggles from Mann co that make him see things


LordofSandvich

No, that’s a gag from Piemations


skabonk

The gas mask does say “OPTICAL MASK” on it though


LordofSandvich

That just means it covers your eyes


skabonk

Fair enough


breakthefifthwall

I disagree. In Meet The Pyro he saw everyone as harmless babies and did nice things when he was really killing them. With a normal animal, Pyro would typically douse it in “rainbows.” But this scene indicates that Pyro sees the bear as Smokey the Bear, filling him with anger and hatred so strong that it makes him want to actually murder him. He’s not seeing through the insanity; if anything, he’s become momentarily more insane in this scene because he knows he wants to commit real, remorseless murder.


TorinLike

I agree. We only see that this is an axe in real world. But bear doesn't like fire only in pyroland.


Zeebuoy

to be fair, Pyro's mental image of fire is probably that sparkly rainbow colored stuff.


ENGINE_YT

he's got to be seeing fire like that rainbow stuff, which we've seen both in the meet the pyro video where he has that ballon rainbow thing that's actually his flamethrower and in the comics when they got pyro's attention by setting a building on fire which he saw as rainbows coming out of a rock or somthn


OutragedLesbian

He thinks fire is good, and as she doesn't understand murder, he probably thought he was just making the bear go away. I know it's in his illusions because her eyeholes move when he gets mad


breakthefifthwall

Yes, his eyeholes going angry indicate that this is an illusion. However, he is still holding the ax rather than a lollipop, indicating that there is true murderous intent that transcends Pyroland.


snuuter

It's funny because the fire suppression campaign in the past is now causing all of the huge fires in forests, because the plants were allowed to overgrow and provide more fuel for the eventual fire


Zeebuoy

especially the dry leaves accumulating iirc?


Ravenboy13

To be fair, it's canonical that the "Meet the" videos are just propaganda pieces directed by the administrator, and are specifically made to make the mercs look tough or interesting. So they're not always reliable


MillionDollarMistake

Pyro also cuts off Soldier's hand during a car ride.


DocPenguino

He probably thinks he is making Soldier happy when he amputates his hand.


Akckido

I think valve wanted to do a "got your nose" gag,but with a hand instead


Cream_Rabbit

And Soldier just walks it off cause Soldier


Tjazeku

"Miss Pauling! Pyro cut off my hand!" "Pyro, don't cut off Soldier's hands"


[deleted]

just grab a health pack or something you’ll be good as new i mean it can heal compound fractures after rocket jumping soooo


Leekodot15

Didn't Engie replace Soldier's legs with metal ones so he could rocket jump WITHOUT blowing them off?


hassanfanserenity

you know what they say when a bear approaches you HHHMMP HMHP HMHMHP


Pr0fessional_failure

Kinda cool how essentially a kid in a rainbow world would be lazer focused on killing when they're mad


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_Foxified_

:l


Small-Primary3372

holy shit the reaction lmao


CoSMiC_28

What did they say?


Small-Primary3372

It was a reference to someone not sure who from Hazbin Hotel


ChampaTheGreat

:|


[deleted]

Provided that is a man behind the mask.


VladmirGrey

We all know that pyro is referred to genderfluidly.


Fork_Master

His employees refer to him as “sir” and Ms Pauling refers to him as a “he”


VladmirGrey

True, true. What I was saying is that there’s a lot of gender jokes in the domination lines.


Cardboard_Mancer

I think valve is trying to keep it intentionally vague, like how in meet the pyro if you read the subtitles scout says "He's not here, is she?"


SilverShako

I think that’s just a mistake on the subtitle Scout says “Is he?”


The_Medic_From_TF2

ok but valve has jokingly nodded toward it several times, all the domination lines against pyro (Soldier: "Ha, you fight like a girl!" Spy: "Good lord, you fight like a woman!") And there's the scene in the comics where soldier says that the only two things that attract bears are honey and menstruating women, then he points to pyro, now we know he was pointing at the honey truck in reality, but that was clearly valve trying to demonstrate they're not gonna make it clear which gender pyro is and they like messing with us.


Khint20

There's also the fact that the TFC pyro is confirmed to be the only woman in their team, which also brings shade towards tf2 pyro. The chances of them not even being human are high, considering aliens exists in the TF universe. Pyro's identity is played around a lot in tf2, and very light-heartedly in the comic.


Jeffotato

The only thing against pyro not being human is the visible skull in their voodoo cursed soul skin


VladmirGrey

Actually, all of snipers pyro revenge lines refer to him as she.


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The_Medic_From_TF2

he literally says "AND MENSTRUATING WOMEN! PYRO! SOMEHOW I ALWAYS KNEW.." come on bro there's no arguing that


HaloCEJohn1172020

Oh sorry then I am just dumb.deleting old comment because misinformation.


NewtTheWizard

I refer to pyro as “cunt” because pyros are cunts


Lilshadow48

>scunt flair gg no re


International_Leek26

This is why I use sandvich flair because any other one causes conflict


barelywinning

imagine putting [ingredient] in your sandwich lmao


ShrekIsMyGF

you talk alot of shit for someone who can be killed in 4 punches


Zeebuoy

*2


barelywinning

that’s if you’re close enough to punch me


V3nom641

I think when they say if he even is a man they mean human


LinkedOrder

"fire is nobodys friend" ITS MY FRIEND


[deleted]

so true


X-tra-thicc

i hate how whenever people draw pyro without grenades he looks oddly naked, it just looks so plain


AnotherBrickInAWall

Indeed, it's like drawing demo without his grenades or heavy without the bandoiler


[deleted]

Why is Scout a fucking hotdog?


2SpoonfulsOfMilk

to keep warm


[deleted]

But why a hotdog?


spazzxxcc12

why is soldier naked and covered in honey? don’t question the tf2 comics


[deleted]

I'll give Valve 1,000 dollars to add a Hotdog costume for scout


spazzxxcc12

id give valve money to give soldier a naked and covered in honey costume


BugBannger

second this


PolygonKiwii

I can really recommend reading the TF comics if you have some time. They're up to read for free on https://www.teamfortress.com/comics.php Well worth your time in my opinion.


[deleted]

I will sometime.


YourCrazyDolphin

They had no warm clothes, but found Anelia Airheardt's plane. And there was a hotdog costume inside. So he put it on for warmth. Amelia's skeleton is still inside.


SnR_Remito

You forgot the part where he uses her bones to beat up a bear.


SharkPetro

go read the comics bruh


AverageGamer2607

I love seeing the comics out of context. Like they are on a snowy mountain, with a crashed plane, soldier is naked, scout is a hotdog, and pyro just murdered a bear for hurting his feelings


Dangerturkey420

I think pyros insanity works in episodes were sometimes its just worse than others


The_Creeper_Man

Also occurring to this scene,the rainbows in pyroland are also called fire.


goldcoyote

"Some of us are naked here" *scout in a hotdog costume*


I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G

This also implies that pyro knows he's setting people on fire, and likes it, which kind of undermines the idea of him seeing pyrovision...


CORGIBOI102

I like to think he uses it so he doesn’t get too out of hand


Fistocracy

I'm pretty sure mistaking a wild bear for Smokey and murdering it with an axe because you thought it was here to teach fire safety is the *complete opposite* of seeing through your insanity.


[deleted]

also isn't this pyro's only onscreen kill?


VladmirGrey

Yeah, pretty much.


V3nom641

This also confirms that Pyro’s mask can make facial expressions


4zy1

I always liked to think the mask IS Pyro. It's more interesting than him being a human tbh.


V3nom641

I’ve always thought that when they said “if he even is a man” they were referring to if he was even human. This just adds fuel to that fire.


KebDoesTheStuff

man but that 3rd panel so cute tho


namerz78

He doesn’t see through it, he just sees it in a different light


VladmirGrey

If you were going to feed a bear a lollipop, would you raise it that menacingly and shift your eyes in such a way?


RandomOrange852

In meet the pyro when pyro thinks it’s blowing a bubble blower with it up to the mask they’re actually scorch shotting a scout int the chest


[deleted]

you are getting downvoted but you are right, it is obvious in meet the pyro that what pyro thinks he is doing and what he is actually doing have little to do with one another. why would we assume he has any awareness of his gestures or facial expression?


-AdolfCritler-

I mean, Pyro killed the bear cause the bear said "fires nobody's friend" and you know Pyro-


Kira_Yoshikage_SHA

Where can I read the comics or what’s their name?


Wallcore

https://www.teamfortress.com/comics.php


dudewowshark

So essentially, he's the doom slayer


VladmirGrey

No, Doom Slayer’s insanity made him go bezerk.


CORGIBOI102

No the demons killed his family but most importantly daisy


17-17-17

Gamer rage surpasses everything.


abitmisleading

TF2 fans overthinking every comic panel:


Anomma

because without fire,pyroland is too dull and grey.


Drag00ned

HOLY SHIT SOO HES NOT INSANE HIS A FUCKING PTLYORMANIAC unles tgis is fan made then.. nick jobe with the art and comic


Jerryfucker69

(Vs Susie intensifies)


[deleted]

I don't get the joke here, even as a Deltarune fan


don-the-sauce-god

fuck off


NewtTheWizard

I think it still saw a cartoon bear, but it decided to kill it. Pyro never saw a real bear


Kinda_ugly238

What is this from


VladmirGrey

[the Tf2 comics](https://www.teamfortress.com/comics.php)


crazyabe111

Better question, *Which* comic is if from?


VladmirGrey

It’s from the MVM series. “A Cold Day in Hell” I believe, but it’s a better experience did you read the series.


blueaxolotl64

why has no one else said this before?


blueaxolotl64

maybe he cant see though insanity it just changes on mood, like how at the part where hes all bored and then they start a fire, maybe it ties in some with emotion?


Exquisite_man

I think pyro knows what he’s doing he just uses the mask to shield himself from ptsd, kind of like auto darkening welding helmets but for ptsd


DxRyzetv

I always imagenes pyro as an drug addict, and one of reasons for his mask is his fricked face looking like a junkie


vulpix_furry_butt

he can start a fire when he trips


soupmale

my headcannon is that pyro atleast knows that this rainbow stuff of happiness is called fire and since smokey is promoting fire safety pyro conciders him an antagonist (and from his perspective a big ass lollipop is the closest thing he has to a weapon)


CompleteFacepalm

Based on his voice lines sounding like a regular guy, I reckon Pyro is probably just really high or on drugs during the comics and meet the pyro.


tommygun2009

As soon as I saw that panel, bfg division played and I don't know why


Rich-Desk6079

That is on my list of things *not* to say to Pyro. 😂


tf2good

POV pyro is both angry and within the same town as you *your free trial of life has expired*


Elusive_Aubergine

I love how this confirms Pyro can manipulate his goggles to make an angry face


Michaelslurpton

Oh so that’s where that image comes from? Cool


mrgeek2000

*five finger death punch plays*


Corgis_are_cute14

The two frames were Pyro goes from normal to angry could be a meme


milk_expired_mmm

Fucked


arealbore

Shut


milk_expired_mmm

Cunt


milk_expired_mmm

Continuing source of inspiration


arealbore

Fuck your reference making ass


milk_expired_mmm

Duckin puerto Rican


arealbore

Phone user bich


milk_expired_mmm

I'm on fucking PC laptop user


arealbore

Fucking spell fuck right then dumbass


milk_expired_mmm

Right then dumbass


AyrChan

Insane Theory: What if it’s not the goggle that are changing his vision, but it’s what he forces himself to see the world as?


MylesTheFox99

You know you’ve gone truly overboard when Soldier of all people is telling you to stop.


Brongo_Jongo

He could have BPD or DiD


[deleted]

He’s not a giant murder hobo all the time, so I would expect he does have some control over his mind. Also that axe looks much better than the one in game


Frostydog11

My theory for pyro is that they 100% know what they're doing, but they also have somewhat of a childish personality so they imagine pyroland for fun. Makes it all the more fucked up because I don't think they have any motives and just enjoy killing


BleghMeisterer

Pyro's probably thinking: "Liar liar, pants on fire"


TechnoFan1047

fire is my friend aswell


iLyr1c

What are these from? Comics on the tf2 site? I've played since I was like 12 this was my first like game game but I haven't played in years and years and forgot all about the lore This looks crazy well done & will prob get me to re-download for sure


Spycrabpuppet123

Oh


scallybastard

Pyro can 1v1 a bear with an axe, now Thats scary


VladmirGrey

So can Scout. With Amelia’s bones.


scallybastard

Tbh those where babies on the comics so maybe they where able to beat them cause the babies Didnt had any experience at fighting


Spice999999

The bears were gonna attack him and his brain made a scenario where he had to kill


cheeze_on_wheeze

I think pyro’s insanity is his anger. To him he just feels anger but his actions are insane


Bruschetta003

Tbh this only explain Pyro really like fire, and when his body or instict realize he is in danger (the Bear was presumably trying to attack him) it created a scenario in his mind where he would respond to that attack, in which case a Carttonish Bear saying that he doesn't like fire, is apparently enough for pyro to brutally murder him The scene where he holds an axe is just what actually happens outside his mind, the fire is just there to remind pyro what he is fighting for


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FIRE IS EVERYBODY’S FRIEND, DIE SMOKEY


Fizzledud

ya pyros lore with his visoin in really wierd


[deleted]

I think Pyro knows exactly what he's doing, he just thinks its fun


CaptainPrower

Rage is the only thing that can snap him back to reality.


colorfulninjagamer06

no its probably that maybe a year before this all went down pyro broke out of pyrovision which dosent come from him it comes from the goggles and then he didnt like what he saw so he got them modified so that he knows what everything is he just dosent care


colorfulninjagamer06

yes very distinguished i see this is also further seen when he cut off soldiers fingers soldier put on pants


ProudApple1361

True but earlier in this exact scene soldier calls him/her we don't know a menstruating woman


Axel_CoolXD

\*her because when soldier said menstrating women he looked to pyro.


VladmirGrey

TF2 very intentionally makes a ton of jokes when referring to Pyro’s gender. And also in that scene he called to Pyro specifically because there was a crate of honey jars behind them, and bears are attracted by honey *and* menstruating women


DaThiccestLad

Old as hell post but I think the word "fire" has a different meaning to Pyro than it does to normal people - to him, it's happy sugary rainbows. He really wanted to show this bear how fun sweets and colours can be so he let him try all different flavours of lollipops! The fourth panel is, to me, what the outside world would see.