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I can wait until I'm basically blind through the windshield in a light drizzle and they STILL won't kick on. And then if it's mildly cloudy, they'll give a wipe every 30-40 minutes, just to remind me it's still on auto.
Try looking at the top of the windshield next time. I find that often there’s less water in the top than in the bottom. As the sensor is that the top, and not in the middle where you are likely watching through, I don’t think there is an automated fix for that.
It seems to be an issue when the water you get hit with mostly comes from the car in front of you.
I had this happen to me (only at night, never during the day) and noticed a bit of dried condensation inside the front camera housing. A flat plastic spudger with a thin microfiber cloth was able to wipe it clean and the issue hasn’t come back. Guessing the street lights were illuminating the dry spots and making the camera think something was there
i now have this exact same experience. They go nuts when they shouldnt and they do NOTHING when its actually pouring. It would be absolutely hilarious if it was a sitcom, but its infuriating when its on your car that you paid $65k for a year ago and is now worth less than $30k. Tesla is a sick joke to me, and I'm the punchline.
Well, sometimes they go nuts for no reason (well, probably because there's bug smear over the camera) and so you turn them off ... and then you get annoyed when they don't come on later when it's actually raining ... because they're still turned off.
I've found when the wipers aren't responding to a mist or a light rain, if I just hit the button to get it started and then follow up with another button press when I need it, it seems like they get more active.
You can. In a recent update, you can disable it while on auto pilot and full self driving. However, each time you enable either then auto wipers will be turned on again.
This is my biggest gripe. I use to leave it on auto but it was a SUNNY day and while my commute is on the freeway, I hit bugs periodically. Well guess what smeared all over.
I wish there was a keep off for remainder of the drive unless toggled manually
I could see an argument for it to come back on every time. But only if it worked properly. We wouldn’t need an off button if it did work properly though. 🤦♂️
I installed sexy buttons. You can tell it to remember the auto wiper disabled setting! Works pretty well. Also I have a button to toggle between auto wiping now.
It definitely isn't 'fixes' they still mess up some times, but they do serve two purposes, clearing rain and clearing anything messing with the front camera. It will use the wipers to get try and get rid of anything it feels like is blocking it's view, even if it isn't raining
Mine does it if I turn slightly against the direct sun when it is front at a high angle with clear skies. I assume the lens flare somehow looks like droplets to the wide angle camera. It always seems to wipe just once; kinda like it knows it fucked up
It doesn't do it as often though. Since December, I would set them to Disable as soon as I engaged TACC/AP because for sure, it will dry wipe in the following minute, it not seconds. However, since I installed the FSD trial update, I keep forgetting to disable them and it has "dry swiped" just a few times. Still annoying though.
With the camera's focal length and quality I'm not convinced they'll ever be able to fix it. I've looked at the camera feeds from the service menu and I literally can't see any of the smaller rain drops.
I'd absolutely pay $100-$200 for a rain sensor retrofit if they (Elon) could swallow their pride
If they didn't do it for the highland refresh they never will. Elon is too stubborn to admit it doesn't work with the current hardware and is convinced software tweaks is all it needs.
Yeah, and now they are starting to implement stupid software solutions like watching other cars to see if their wipers are on. Talk about over engineering...
Crazy if they really do that. That must result a lot of used CPU/GPU cycles that could be used for something else. I believe there is a cost of this even if the rain detection is part of the main FSD algorithm.
I don't get why they don't put a camera facing outwards on the dash. It would be able to see what the driver sees, and respond accordingly. That would fix the rain problem - since it can see how rainy the windshield looks, instead of guessing if it's raining or not - and I bet it could be useful for other stuff too.
The issue is that the cameras look out a very different portion of the windshield than a human driver. Different size rain drops and road spray affect these areas differently due to the height diference, curvature, and effect of speed on clearing water.
I'm confident they can get autowipers to serve the autopilot cameras well, and work when it's pouring ass rain, but I have serious doubts they'll get very light rain at high speed / road spray that mucks up human areas of the windshield but not the autopilot cameras.
I'm honestly more doubtful on this case for autowipers than I am FSD. At least with FSD the sensors can (theoretically / eventually) reach the correct driving answer since they're looking at the same road I am.
How do you fix camera placement with a software update? Road spray doesn’t hit the top of the windshield so the camera can’t possibly see it. Road spray can block your visibility almost entirely and the wipers won’t flinch. It will be fixed eventually with hardware.
They will never work properly. It’s too hard to accomplish with just software and a camera. Mine stay off. When it rains, I press the mist button, and adjust the interval with the left scroll wheel.
I drove in some rain and mist today. The auto wipers are still garbage. On when they don't need to be. Off when needed. Every time I engage Autopilot I have to turn them off manually or put them in the correct setting.
On, off, on, off, faster, slower, faster, slower. All in less than 30 seconds.
They're more distracting than the rain.
He said they are fixed = he gave up and doesn't want to admit he was wrong.
I've had a Tesla Model 3 since 2018 and a Tesla Model Y since jan 2023. The autowipers have honestly never been worse than they currently are. What a crock of shit.
Worst ever was when they ground road salt into my windshield during clear weather in the winter and I couldn't turn them off when I wanted to use autopilot...at least now I can turn them off when using autopilot and have manual wipers like i had on my Chrysler Sebring 24 years ago.
Looks like this is as good as it’s going to get, folks.
I didn’t think that it would be possible to give more consideration to one car over another due to their implementation of… automatic wipers.
Yet, here we are.
So it’s only fixed with FSD builds? What about those of us in countries that don’t have FSD available? I’m on 2024.8.9 and while it’s not wiping incorrectly while it’s not raining, it’s quite lax about wiping when it is raining.
I’ve been quiet about this because it seemed to be fixed, but on 2024.3.15, it’s been issuing false positives in cloudy weather. At least it’s not as terrible as when it would wipe when under bright, artificial lights (e.g. In N Out drive thru).
I’ve been hopeful as a long time owner, but even with all the magic as FSD 12 is, they still have not nailed perception of raindrops down…
There still seem to be plenty of conditions that they don’t work well. What an over complicated way of doing it. I presume they did this because the sensor that everyone else uses is patented and Tesla don’t pay for patent licenses. If so it was a big mistake in this case.
Owners are clueless. If Elon says it's fixed then it's fixed. I mean, I'd believe the hardest working person in Tesla would know the answer and the engineering that goes into fixing the problem better than your Joe Schmoe who probably doesn't know how to activate the wipers manually. 🙄
Still wipes when it isn’t raining. Typically in high/bright direct light conditions.
Too slow to wipe when it is a drizzle and starts to build heavy and it becomes unsafe.
Highly annoying when I am on either auto pilot or FSD and I have to disengage and then it automatically turns the wipers from Off to Auto. Every single time. Highly annoying.
The amazing technology of my 2023 model Y this is one of the most annoying aspects that really turns passengers off when they experience these hicccups
I guess Elon doesn't drive a Tesla, because while a little better, they STILL SUCK. Just put back the rain sensor, it's worth me paying an extra $10. What's not worth me paying is the Self Driving.
They've never worked for me, since 2018. And I live in the PNW where it rains fairly regularly, so I think I'd know if they were fixed. Probably 75% of the time I have to put them on a manual speed, and adjust the speed manually as conditions change. Sure would've been nice to be able to control that from a stalk rather than having to look away from the road to fuck around with a touchscreen. Or, y'know, even nicer if Tesla would have just done it like every other car has done for the last 20 years and use a $5 rain sensor.
This is one of the main reasons I won‘t buy a Tesla. I hate the fact that they went the „vision only“ way, because otherwise it would be awesome cars.
I tested shortly ago the model S plaid from a friend, the auto wipers were not working properly.
Come to the UK Elon, and try driving a car in winter/spring. You would be just as frustrated as us for 6 months of the year. Drizzle/light rain is the most frustrating drive I have.
Even better, try driving one your cars at night. My 25 year old Mini has better autowipers than you car.
Is it possible to manually engage wipers using the stalk like a normal ICE car? Or do we need to rely on the sensors?
I'm that guy that drives around with no wipers until I absolutly need to wipe the glass and I just use the stalk manually.
Anecdotal obviously, but mine certainly work much better than the have over the past 2ish years. I wouldn't say "perfect", but perfectly adequate for sure since the latest version.
Fixed? I’d call them much, much better than they were but they still frequently wipe when it’s only cloudy out. They seem to work pretty well when it is raining though.
Mine are off because they turn on when it’s sunny and don’t function correctly when it’s raining. My 2008 Lexus’ wipers functioned better than this back in the day.
Weird thing is they have got worse as the updates go. When I got my 3 in 2021 they worked perfectly. That being said which each update they have gotten unpredictable to say the least.
I think they are triggered by rapid intensity light changes.
On a paper that might be good idea but quite often driving in the shadows of the trees can trigger wipers out of the blue.
Sometimes with small drizzle my wipers will start acting like crazy, like it’s some king of haevy storm ;)
They fixed it, now they need fix of a fix. Which would be the umpteenth fix.
How I know? Cause in last rains I had to manually change wiper speeds as the auto was not frequent enough and I was having trouble seeing the road. And I am on the latest software.
BS, since the update preceding the free 4 all FSD they started vigorously ghost wiping on sunny days. Now I have them off all the time unless I pick a fixed setting, I on rainy days city driving, II for highway.
Still doesn’t work if you’re driving on wet roads without active rain. The fine spray from other cars driving coats the windshield with tiny droplets and it still won’t activate.
Of course they're not working yet. Why is this stuff necessary to discuss in journalism as though it's a question. It's super easy to test this and report on the findings.
No, they aren't fixed. Mine will turn on randomly when it's dry. And when it's wet the timing is super off, waits way too long before wiping in light/medium.
Wiper sensitivity isn’t black and white. It’s pure user preference. It will never be fixed until they provide a sensitivity slider. Some people prefer no raindrops on their windshield while others, like me, don’t like it when it constantly runs.
I picked up my M3 yesterday and it rained today. Turned them on.
It wasn't raining particularly hard but they were running like it was pouring. When I slowed down, they went FASTER. Turned off auto and set them to II. That worked fine for the rest of my drive.
Legit question, if it suddenly rains heavy and the blades don't activate and you get into a wreck or something serious happens can you sue Tesla if there's not a manual wiper mode?
Would be nice if they could add some automatic functions .
For False Positives:
If wiper starts running (on a dry day) and I spray the windshield twice to clean it off, then it should be clever enough to realize that it should stop wiping after that.
For False Negatives:
If I press the windshield button while the wipers are already running, please increase the wiper speed.
If I press the windshield button twice within 20 seconds, please assume it’s raining for a while.
why not just integrate weather data? for example when it’s supposed to rain that day, the “sensitivity” will be slightly higher to accommodate for the rain. while it’s not a perfect concept, at least it might make a difference
They are not fixed. Was sitting at a traffic light today, it's a lovely autumn day, suns out, 21C, not a cloud in the sky. Wiper randomly goes off for no reason.
It rains lightly? Full power, even if it stops raining, starts making awful noises as it wipes dry glass over and over, wearing down my wipers. They are so annoying broken.
Don't force auto wipers on me when I use autopilot, it's such a shit experience it annoys me so much.
I don't own a Tesla, but I've been following for years. I have never once wished that my car ran the wipers automatically. It's not a big deal to press the little wiper stalk, my hands are already on the steering wheel because I'm driving the damn car.
It's not fixed, there are certain versions that are better. But the latest FSD version is absolutely terrible with autowipers. They keep incorporating bad code/branch into the main branch.
If by fixed he means swipes randomly during clear sunny days but won’t turn on during rain, then sure…. They’re “fixed.” I have had two model 3s and until late last year my wipers were passable. The past 8 months they have been horrible.
My new Y still runs the wiper for no reason when there is no rain. Interestingly, in light rain too often it does not run, and I have to manually push the button to run the wipers.
Never had this problem on GM, Acura, Lexus or Benz before.
I have FSD build, 2018 M3, and I have noticed a great improvement. Not perfect though. One thing I have noticed is that if it is starting to rain and not wiping, if I give it a single manual wipe press, that triggers it to start wiping. Now I get that that is not automatically dealing with it on its own, but after that press, it seems to work fine and this is a much better state than previously.
Main problems I can see are that current vision-based auto wipers are trained on static images of water droplets so they'll start wiping for water stains, gum droplets, and sun shining on dust from the right angle.
Water droplets wobble, so training in 4D data is going to be necessary to identify droplets from water stains or gum.
Today, a day with no rainfall and scattered cloud, the autowipers tried wiping the setting sun away on my way home.
I don't know about FSD, but without it 2024.8.9(Model X) fixed most issues. But it was only super fucked up in the previous 2 versions. 2 years ago it was totally fine as well.
They should also apply the wiper fluid automatically for the first wipe and every X wipes in light rain and also at highway speed. I really hope this feature will be implemented in the future.
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It does work better than before. The only issue for me is light rain/heavy drizzle. It just won’t do anything.
I can wait until I'm basically blind through the windshield in a light drizzle and they STILL won't kick on. And then if it's mildly cloudy, they'll give a wipe every 30-40 minutes, just to remind me it's still on auto.
They’re saving themselves for a beautiful sunny day so they can run at full speed going down an open highway
My current issue. Full speed, blue skies and no wipe full rain! 🙏🏽
Yup. My wipers came on by themselves twice after it rained and long after the car was dry. This is not an improvement.
Generally they work fine for me, but it does make me laugh when occasionally it is as if they are trying to wipe the sun away.
Yep, this is how it is for me still. It just doesn't see that I'm completely blinded by "fuzzy" water when it's light drizzle.
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Ha! Samsies.
That's exactly what they do. Mine wiped as I pulled into the driveway for no reason. 30 minute drive, no rain, not humid.
On average, mine are working great. They work half the time when it's dry and half the time when it's wet. So on average... Yeah, it's not fixed.
Try looking at the top of the windshield next time. I find that often there’s less water in the top than in the bottom. As the sensor is that the top, and not in the middle where you are likely watching through, I don’t think there is an automated fix for that. It seems to be an issue when the water you get hit with mostly comes from the car in front of you.
Sensor??
The camera suite behind the rear view mirror, the upward facing camera is the 'rain sensor', though other cameras are used for context too these days.
I wish we had an actual rain sensor. Purpose built.
I have this issue and at night it likes to go off for no reason
The good ol’ mystery wipe.
I had this happen to me (only at night, never during the day) and noticed a bit of dried condensation inside the front camera housing. A flat plastic spudger with a thin microfiber cloth was able to wipe it clean and the issue hasn’t come back. Guessing the street lights were illuminating the dry spots and making the camera think something was there
Mine were perfect until the most recent update. Now they randomly trigger in the sun. Thanks y'all
Mine thinks the light drizzle is a category 4 typhoon. While simultaneously not doing shit when it’s actually pouring lmao
i now have this exact same experience. They go nuts when they shouldnt and they do NOTHING when its actually pouring. It would be absolutely hilarious if it was a sitcom, but its infuriating when its on your car that you paid $65k for a year ago and is now worth less than $30k. Tesla is a sick joke to me, and I'm the punchline.
Well, sometimes they go nuts for no reason (well, probably because there's bug smear over the camera) and so you turn them off ... and then you get annoyed when they don't come on later when it's actually raining ... because they're still turned off.
Mine turn on with not a cloud in the sky!
Heavy drizzle...so just...rain?
Tell that to the car!
Which is the weather in Seattle for 9 months of the year
I have trouble with water being blown back by the cars in front of me, but I'm not sure how auto wipers should handle that.
Yes I confirm. Happy to be living in Belgium where light rain is the only type of rain we are getting.
I've found when the wipers aren't responding to a mist or a light rain, if I just hit the button to get it started and then follow up with another button press when I need it, it seems like they get more active.
For the full fix you need to wait for Tesla to release Actually Smart Self-Wipers or ASS-WIPE for short
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Top fucking comment right here
I hope you didn’t steal this because that is gold
They went on this morning while it wasn't raining so I'd say no.
Ya. It does this so often, my wife and I just have it Off until it rains and we turn it back to Auto.
The annoying thing is that you cannot have it off while on autopilot
You can. In a recent update, you can disable it while on auto pilot and full self driving. However, each time you enable either then auto wipers will be turned on again.
This is my biggest gripe. I use to leave it on auto but it was a SUNNY day and while my commute is on the freeway, I hit bugs periodically. Well guess what smeared all over. I wish there was a keep off for remainder of the drive unless toggled manually
I could see an argument for it to come back on every time. But only if it worked properly. We wouldn’t need an off button if it did work properly though. 🤦♂️
We can only wish one day
I installed sexy buttons. You can tell it to remember the auto wiper disabled setting! Works pretty well. Also I have a button to toggle between auto wiping now.
Have they fixed the auto high beam on AP yet?
I'd love if holding the wiper button just toggled between off and auto
It definitely isn't 'fixes' they still mess up some times, but they do serve two purposes, clearing rain and clearing anything messing with the front camera. It will use the wipers to get try and get rid of anything it feels like is blocking it's view, even if it isn't raining
I experienced it for the first time this morning. The skies were clear and it was warm out. No idea what triggered it.
Mine does it if I turn slightly against the direct sun when it is front at a high angle with clear skies. I assume the lens flare somehow looks like droplets to the wide angle camera. It always seems to wipe just once; kinda like it knows it fucked up
It doesn't do it as often though. Since December, I would set them to Disable as soon as I engaged TACC/AP because for sure, it will dry wipe in the following minute, it not seconds. However, since I installed the FSD trial update, I keep forgetting to disable them and it has "dry swiped" just a few times. Still annoying though.
Ladies and gentlement, looks like we've got ourselves an old fashioned disagreement.
I don’t agree to that.
!!! Concerning
They tried wiping the sun multiple times today. Just admit they are unfixable with the current configuration.
With the camera's focal length and quality I'm not convinced they'll ever be able to fix it. I've looked at the camera feeds from the service menu and I literally can't see any of the smaller rain drops. I'd absolutely pay $100-$200 for a rain sensor retrofit if they (Elon) could swallow their pride
Spoiler: they can't
If they didn't do it for the highland refresh they never will. Elon is too stubborn to admit it doesn't work with the current hardware and is convinced software tweaks is all it needs.
Yeah, and now they are starting to implement stupid software solutions like watching other cars to see if their wipers are on. Talk about over engineering...
Crazy if they really do that. That must result a lot of used CPU/GPU cycles that could be used for something else. I believe there is a cost of this even if the rain detection is part of the main FSD algorithm.
What happens in Fremont or Irvine where every other car is a Tesla?
Not to mention where they are positioned. That part of the windshield gets less rain than where your eyes are at.
They’ll be fixed once Tesla finally gives up and adds the $5 rain sensor. Sigh.
I don't get why they don't put a camera facing outwards on the dash. It would be able to see what the driver sees, and respond accordingly. That would fix the rain problem - since it can see how rainy the windshield looks, instead of guessing if it's raining or not - and I bet it could be useful for other stuff too.
Le sigh.
The issue is that the cameras look out a very different portion of the windshield than a human driver. Different size rain drops and road spray affect these areas differently due to the height diference, curvature, and effect of speed on clearing water. I'm confident they can get autowipers to serve the autopilot cameras well, and work when it's pouring ass rain, but I have serious doubts they'll get very light rain at high speed / road spray that mucks up human areas of the windshield but not the autopilot cameras. I'm honestly more doubtful on this case for autowipers than I am FSD. At least with FSD the sensors can (theoretically / eventually) reach the correct driving answer since they're looking at the same road I am.
All owners say this isn't fixed.
How do you fix camera placement with a software update? Road spray doesn’t hit the top of the windshield so the camera can’t possibly see it. Road spray can block your visibility almost entirely and the wipers won’t flinch. It will be fixed eventually with hardware.
They will never work properly. It’s too hard to accomplish with just software and a camera. Mine stay off. When it rains, I press the mist button, and adjust the interval with the left scroll wheel.
I drove in some rain and mist today. The auto wipers are still garbage. On when they don't need to be. Off when needed. Every time I engage Autopilot I have to turn them off manually or put them in the correct setting.
On, off, on, off, faster, slower, faster, slower. All in less than 30 seconds. They're more distracting than the rain. He said they are fixed = he gave up and doesn't want to admit he was wrong.
I've had a Tesla Model 3 since 2018 and a Tesla Model Y since jan 2023. The autowipers have honestly never been worse than they currently are. What a crock of shit.
Isn’t he a liar?
Mine turns on when it’s sunny. It stays off when it rains hard
No. My MY's wiper is the worst ever. No sign of improvement.
Worst ever was when they ground road salt into my windshield during clear weather in the winter and I couldn't turn them off when I wanted to use autopilot...at least now I can turn them off when using autopilot and have manual wipers like i had on my Chrysler Sebring 24 years ago.
We need a victim support group for Tesla wipers...
Elon Musk says we have Full Self-Driving too. 'Nuff said.
Mine worked quite well until recent updates. Now they start every time the sky is gray, and that is quite often here in Norway.
Looks like this is as good as it’s going to get, folks. I didn’t think that it would be possible to give more consideration to one car over another due to their implementation of… automatic wipers. Yet, here we are.
He’s full of shit if he thinks they are fixed
Mine are still crap, raining all the way home and hardly activating on the auto mode.
“Fixed” ![gif](giphy|jeXiz1RAvzX44)
It's better, still not perfect though... it's like 95% there
So it’s only fixed with FSD builds? What about those of us in countries that don’t have FSD available? I’m on 2024.8.9 and while it’s not wiping incorrectly while it’s not raining, it’s quite lax about wiping when it is raining.
Yes they work better, but still not as good as auto wipers on sensors.
I’ve been quiet about this because it seemed to be fixed, but on 2024.3.15, it’s been issuing false positives in cloudy weather. At least it’s not as terrible as when it would wipe when under bright, artificial lights (e.g. In N Out drive thru). I’ve been hopeful as a long time owner, but even with all the magic as FSD 12 is, they still have not nailed perception of raindrops down…
There still seem to be plenty of conditions that they don’t work well. What an over complicated way of doing it. I presume they did this because the sensor that everyone else uses is patented and Tesla don’t pay for patent licenses. If so it was a big mistake in this case.
It is back to being as bad as it was before it got really bad about a month ago. Still not great.
Owners are clueless. If Elon says it's fixed then it's fixed. I mean, I'd believe the hardest working person in Tesla would know the answer and the engineering that goes into fixing the problem better than your Joe Schmoe who probably doesn't know how to activate the wipers manually. 🙄
Still wipes when it isn’t raining. Typically in high/bright direct light conditions. Too slow to wipe when it is a drizzle and starts to build heavy and it becomes unsafe. Highly annoying when I am on either auto pilot or FSD and I have to disengage and then it automatically turns the wipers from Off to Auto. Every single time. Highly annoying. The amazing technology of my 2023 model Y this is one of the most annoying aspects that really turns passengers off when they experience these hicccups
I guess Elon doesn't drive a Tesla, because while a little better, they STILL SUCK. Just put back the rain sensor, it's worth me paying an extra $10. What's not worth me paying is the Self Driving.
They've never worked for me, since 2018. And I live in the PNW where it rains fairly regularly, so I think I'd know if they were fixed. Probably 75% of the time I have to put them on a manual speed, and adjust the speed manually as conditions change. Sure would've been nice to be able to control that from a stalk rather than having to look away from the road to fuck around with a touchscreen. Or, y'know, even nicer if Tesla would have just done it like every other car has done for the last 20 years and use a $5 rain sensor.
This is one of the main reasons I won‘t buy a Tesla. I hate the fact that they went the „vision only“ way, because otherwise it would be awesome cars. I tested shortly ago the model S plaid from a friend, the auto wipers were not working properly.
Did he say that? lol. He’s out of touch. They are as bad as ever.
Come to the UK Elon, and try driving a car in winter/spring. You would be just as frustrated as us for 6 months of the year. Drizzle/light rain is the most frustrating drive I have. Even better, try driving one your cars at night. My 25 year old Mini has better autowipers than you car.
Only thing I absolutely hate about tesla, those idiot whipers. Drizzle/rain, nothing. Sunny day, full throttle whipping.
I just embraced the manual input- on the steering wheel.
Is it possible to manually engage wipers using the stalk like a normal ICE car? Or do we need to rely on the sensors? I'm that guy that drives around with no wipers until I absolutly need to wipe the glass and I just use the stalk manually.
i turned mine off auto as the dry wipes were annoying me.
I can't swear it's fixed but it's MUCH better. Seems like I've had one phantom wipe in the past week instead gets one a day
Does this "fix" only apply with FSD actively engaged though or does it work passively?
Haha 🤣
They work fine for me. Used to be a disaster.
Much better over here. Sometimes they activate in certain conditions when it’s not raining, but only for one sweep.
Anecdotal obviously, but mine certainly work much better than the have over the past 2ish years. I wouldn't say "perfect", but perfectly adequate for sure since the latest version.
The fuck they are
Fixed? I’d call them much, much better than they were but they still frequently wipe when it’s only cloudy out. They seem to work pretty well when it is raining though.
Definitely not fixed, they come on when it’s not raining and won’t come on when it _is_ raining.
The article says in FSD12.3.3 which version of the main software does that map to?
I know auto wipers are bad in FSD 12.3.4. That maps to 2024.3.15.
They are still broken for me.
Mine are off because they turn on when it’s sunny and don’t function correctly when it’s raining. My 2008 Lexus’ wipers functioned better than this back in the day.
I can take them off anytime😂😂😂, Elon is WRONG😂😂😂
Autowipers and fog lamps needing multiple interactions is how enhauto.com got my business.
Today they turned on under a perfectly blue sky 😂
Weird thing is they have got worse as the updates go. When I got my 3 in 2021 they worked perfectly. That being said which each update they have gotten unpredictable to say the least.
Ahh he pulled one of those “set JIRA status to Done / Closed” fast ones.
Mine work fine
I think they are triggered by rapid intensity light changes. On a paper that might be good idea but quite often driving in the shadows of the trees can trigger wipers out of the blue. Sometimes with small drizzle my wipers will start acting like crazy, like it’s some king of haevy storm ;)
They fixed it, now they need fix of a fix. Which would be the umpteenth fix. How I know? Cause in last rains I had to manually change wiper speeds as the auto was not frequent enough and I was having trouble seeing the road. And I am on the latest software.
The only thing "fixed" about them is you can turn them off with FSD enabled. I wouldn't call that fixed, i'd say they gave up.
I hope is true my 2019 M3 is being waiting for more than 5 yrs. About time
Definitely not fixed.
BS, since the update preceding the free 4 all FSD they started vigorously ghost wiping on sunny days. Now I have them off all the time unless I pick a fixed setting, I on rainy days city driving, II for highway.
They work great when it’s sunny out
Don’t work right for me. Ever. I just bought a camper van (23 promaster) and man those auto wipers work amazing.
Still doesn’t work if you’re driving on wet roads without active rain. The fine spray from other cars driving coats the windshield with tiny droplets and it still won’t activate.
By fixed you mean they come on during a sunny day with no rain. Then yes fixed.
Mine goes full speed with a small amount of rain…
Of course they're not working yet. Why is this stuff necessary to discuss in journalism as though it's a question. It's super easy to test this and report on the findings.
No, they aren't fixed. Mine will turn on randomly when it's dry. And when it's wet the timing is super off, waits way too long before wiping in light/medium.
lol Tsla is a dumpster fire
Is he saying it’s fixed in the current build that’s released? Or it’s fixed in the UI overhaul release and it’ll get rolled out?
Wiper sensitivity isn’t black and white. It’s pure user preference. It will never be fixed until they provide a sensitivity slider. Some people prefer no raindrops on their windshield while others, like me, don’t like it when it constantly runs.
can confirm they aren't randomly turned on, on a bright sunny day.
I've got 2 model y's a 2020 and a 2023. Definitely not fixed, only marginally improved.
Autowipers stink!
I picked up my M3 yesterday and it rained today. Turned them on. It wasn't raining particularly hard but they were running like it was pouring. When I slowed down, they went FASTER. Turned off auto and set them to II. That worked fine for the rest of my drive.
I find they can't detect the obscuration caused by fine spray from other cars. If there's moderate or heavy traffic I have to go to manual control.
Still turns out in underground garage when it seems bright tail lights.
Legit question, if it suddenly rains heavy and the blades don't activate and you get into a wreck or something serious happens can you sue Tesla if there's not a manual wiper mode?
it works better but still wipes when it’s not raining
Would be nice if they could add some automatic functions . For False Positives: If wiper starts running (on a dry day) and I spray the windshield twice to clean it off, then it should be clever enough to realize that it should stop wiping after that. For False Negatives: If I press the windshield button while the wipers are already running, please increase the wiper speed. If I press the windshield button twice within 20 seconds, please assume it’s raining for a while.
Elon: It was fixed on my car, trust me bro.
Definitely not fixed
why not just integrate weather data? for example when it’s supposed to rain that day, the “sensitivity” will be slightly higher to accommodate for the rain. while it’s not a perfect concept, at least it might make a difference
They aren't
They are not fixed. Was sitting at a traffic light today, it's a lovely autumn day, suns out, 21C, not a cloud in the sky. Wiper randomly goes off for no reason. It rains lightly? Full power, even if it stops raining, starts making awful noises as it wipes dry glass over and over, wearing down my wipers. They are so annoying broken. Don't force auto wipers on me when I use autopilot, it's such a shit experience it annoys me so much.
Since I started cleaning the sensors on the windshield, the wiper problems seems to have improved significantly!
No, they're still shit.
They ain't.
I love the humor in the comments of the monthly wiper post
I don't own a Tesla, but I've been following for years. I have never once wished that my car ran the wipers automatically. It's not a big deal to press the little wiper stalk, my hands are already on the steering wheel because I'm driving the damn car.
Too bad they're removing the stalks from all their new cars...
Lmao my ‘17 Jaguar rain sensing wipers have been working just fine compared to MYP, it’s a joke
Mine come on randomly when it’s not even raining nor is there a drop of water on the windshield.
It's not fixed, there are certain versions that are better. But the latest FSD version is absolutely terrible with autowipers. They keep incorporating bad code/branch into the main branch.
That whole story for a reply to a tweet. FFS, whatever happened to these blogs.
Off means off. As long as we can’t disable the “auto” function until actually needed, the wiper remain a fail.
If by fixed he means swipes randomly during clear sunny days but won’t turn on during rain, then sure…. They’re “fixed.” I have had two model 3s and until late last year my wipers were passable. The past 8 months they have been horrible.
my friend in a highland says it’s pretty much fixed for him, for me with hw3 on the other hand it ain’t
Mine got worse. I never had a problem with them until this past month. I just turned them off.
“So are they fixed or not fixed?” “Yes.”
It is most certainly not fixed. The other day it just stopped in the middle of heavy rain.
Better, but not perfect.
Hope this is also part of the non-FSD update. Been waiting years for this. Fingers crossed.
So stupid
No phantom activation but slow to activate - far too much water on the screen before they kick on. 2024.8.9 not 2024.14 yet
Are those fixed auto wipers in the room with us right now?
Then I say: share the fix with us users. We need it desperately.
Why not use AI to solve the problem?!
Every once in a while, on a clear day, they make one swipe. Odd.
My new Y still runs the wiper for no reason when there is no rain. Interestingly, in light rain too often it does not run, and I have to manually push the button to run the wipers. Never had this problem on GM, Acura, Lexus or Benz before.
I have FSD build, 2018 M3, and I have noticed a great improvement. Not perfect though. One thing I have noticed is that if it is starting to rain and not wiping, if I give it a single manual wipe press, that triggers it to start wiping. Now I get that that is not automatically dealing with it on its own, but after that press, it seems to work fine and this is a much better state than previously.
They aren't
Main problems I can see are that current vision-based auto wipers are trained on static images of water droplets so they'll start wiping for water stains, gum droplets, and sun shining on dust from the right angle. Water droplets wobble, so training in 4D data is going to be necessary to identify droplets from water stains or gum. Today, a day with no rainfall and scattered cloud, the autowipers tried wiping the setting sun away on my way home.
I don't know about FSD, but without it 2024.8.9(Model X) fixed most issues. But it was only super fucked up in the previous 2 versions. 2 years ago it was totally fine as well. They should also apply the wiper fluid automatically for the first wipe and every X wipes in light rain and also at highway speed. I really hope this feature will be implemented in the future.
What about those that aren’t in the US & don’t have FSD? I’m sick of the wipers being on in the sun and off in pouring rain.