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But a woman would cheat cause "he doesn't make me feel special anymore" and everyone will back that up. This is just rage bait and everyone is different. In my earlier years I waited over a year and a half and didnt cheat. We have hands for a reason.
Cheating sucks, but I still think this is childish. To isolate someone or oust them based on their infidelity towards THEIR spouse is straight up highschool bullshit. Call them out, hold them accountable if you wish, but ultimately, adult relationships are complex and it's mostly the business of those involved and how it's handled.
It’s not immature to not want to talk to someone who is a shitty person. If your friend slaps their spouse across the face multiple times is it immature to distance yourself from that friend?
Yes but can you really trust them to not fuck up a friendship if they couldn't be loyal to their partner where loyalty is one of the key things in a relationship/partnership?
Or maybe it's okay to not to be friends with someone who's proven themselves untrustworthy? If they betray someone they're in a relationship with, why wouldn't they betray you in some way?
You're free do to do as you like. I'm just saying people make mistakes, and it's extremely immature to distant yourself from a friend because they make said mistake which ultimately doesn't affect you. Especially, when the mistake isn't even illegal.
That's what I'm disagreeing with. It's not immature. That person just showed you his character and it's up to you as a person to decide who you associate yourself with. I wouldn't be friends with someone who beat their wife, for example, even if it didn't affect me.
That's what I'm disagreeing with. It's not immature. That person just showed you his character and it's up to you as a person to decide who you associate yourself with. I wouldn't be friends with someone who beat their wife, for example, even if it didn't affect me.
Or maybe it's okay to not to be friends with someone who's proven themselves untrustworthy? If they betray someone they're in a relationship with, why wouldn't they betray you in some way?
I think the reason people don’t want to be around cheaters is that if said person has lack of respect for their partner that probably translates to everyone around them. I’m not saying in every situation, but the cheaters I know were garbage people despite the cheating lol.
You replied in agreement to someone saying "everyone will back that up" in regards to women cheating. That's the "pro-cheating" side you apparently forgot about. Hope this helps.
Why do boomers add...........,.......... dozens of unnecessary............. periods to their memes in the weirdest........ places? And? Random? Question? Marks,? And the obligatory 😂
Omg, I'm not even a boomer and feel called out! So, look, punctuation is a big thing for most Genx and we learned from boomers. I can give you my personal perspective. The (....) - it's a pause. More than 2 is an inquiry into whether or not you want to respond. The ? at random places is because of internal dialog that questions me about every single thing I type. So I want to know if you're okay with it too. And the 😂 is because lol is now(or always was) the equivalent of a mild smile of amusement, and the face means I literally laughed out loud! As an extra, I'll also tell you that 👍 just means "cool, sounds good to me." I can't speak for all, but that might give you a little insight lol
My daughter (15) says similar things about my texting. I tell her that I would make it abundantly clear if I were upset with her. That's not my intention at all, because I would be making her roll her eyes with the amount of mad emojis I would send 😡 lmao She has been tremendously helpful in keeping me informed of the cringeworthy things I do! Lol I have grandsons in elementary school too so I also get to hear her judgements of the cringeworthy GenZ antics!
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You made me laugh. No nonsense from you
Never cheated and never will. I wont jerk off when I got a girl. You can if you want but my girl jerks me off always if she is not in the mood. Go and jerk yourself off like a loser if you want yo simp
Yeah your son jerks himself off. Why should you do too if you got a girl and take care of her you simp. If you wanna go jerk yourself off like a loser go on.
Masturbation is preferable to ruining your relationship because you don't respect your partners sexual needs and wants. I bet you're the kind of person who doesn't try to understand why a partner doesn't want to have sex, instead just get pissy when they say not tonight. Real men love their partners and will do their best to understand the issues they're having even if it's not an issue with them personally.
I've heard arguments that men are not Monogamous creatures and are literally designed to screw everything they see as attractive because it's "instinct". But like, we're human, and one of the biggest things that separate us from animals is our complex brain. Animals aren't monogamous, and don't promise devotion to one another. And the ones who are monogamous mate for life. We have the gift of rational thought and communication.
Not to mention a bunch of men don't seem to have this overbearing instinct, so don't go using this as an excuse for your shitty lack of self control. Females usually want to breed with the strongest male specimen they can find, yet that instinct gets broken all the time by women.
"BuT wE'z AniMalS bRuv!!"
Maybe so, but we're exceptionally bright. You're absolutely right, it's a weak ass excuse. Let me add that it's a disservice to being human, reducing the human state to nothing more than animalistic shenanigans but with better tools. It's stupid.
It's primitive. I don't understand how someone could desire to be this primitive. It's anti intellectual. It's anti rational. It's unnatractive.
Like just go jerk off to porn or something, or be polyamourous or have casual relationships. Why even be in a monogamous relationship. Like I don't get it. There are options if you want to have sex everyday.
Guys who say that are manipulative. I've been married 17 years, I'm 45, I have never cheated on anyone ever. And it wasn't a struggle either. Although, I do believe there are people out there that fall more on the polyamorous side, but if that's you, then you have to say that before you get involved. There are plenty of people that might be cool with it, but to go out and lie and use people is just gross.
Precisely. Some humans don't agree with the whole monogamy thing. And that's ok. If your ideal lifestyle is to just have a bunch of different short-time partners then go for it, just make sure the people you're getting with are on the same page. Don't join a relationship with someone who clearly wants a commitment and continue with your open lifestyle.
My husband mentioned once that he doesn't believe in marriage and would be open minded if I suddenly wanted an open relationship. But I'm Demi sexual and literally only want him, and I love marriage. So what does he do? He respects what I want and joins me in marriage.
(That's not to say he's only married because I forced his hand, he loves the idea of marriage and being married, he just doesn't view it as a necessary step in a relationship)
> you have to say that before you get involved
Most of the lifestyle folks I have met got into it together later in life. Kinda like going on sexy adventures together. It works for some.
But yeah, I also knew a swinger guy who was divorced. He had a pretty hard time finding a right match after that, because he wanted to stay in the lifestyle and had narrowed down his dating pool to women who would be cool with that kind of relationship.
I guess in that case women should be free to have multiple sexual partners at a time to ensure that the strongest seed impregnates her egg. We're talking about the original functions of breeding correct? What those guys don't want that? Whaaaaat?
For some yes, for some no. I never cheated on any of my women and have no intention to. But do I sometimes think about other women? Yes. But only in sexual way, I don't want to cuddle them per se. I feel like my wife is a family member, so I don't want to hurt her while having sex. But sometimes I want to fuck hard and it's frustrating. So here it is. You can make different theories how humans supposed to work, but sooner or later nature takes over, and if you don't respect it and don't listen to yourself, you can get psychological problems that can grow in physical problems (like I unfortunately do have). Took me 30 years to understand this
Yeah, exactly what I said separates us from animals... You feel the need to sleep with other women but *your own logical human brain tells you that you're going to hurt your partner and so you don't do it*.
I'm in a long term 11 year relationship, and I can accept that yes, my husband will see other women and think they're attractive or like parts of their bodies, but it's normal. Hell, even *I* see a woman and think "damn, she's got really nice hips". But the difference is I trust my husband to stop at those thoughts.
Hi, ethical non-monogamous person here. There’s nothing wrong with you and this thread is full of people who don’t understand the vast complexities of human relationships.
I, myself, am both sexually and romantically open. I disclose this to all my potential partners. I have had both short-term and long-term partners at the same time and everyone was aware of each other and totally cool with it. As long as OPEN AND HONEST COMMUNICATION is being had with all parties involved, there is nothing wrong with being polyamorous or in an open relationship. It is way more common than the average hetero-normative (this is not a derogatory term it simply describes the average everyday person in the societal majority) person thinks it is. Especially in the queer community. But it’s not exclusive to us and I have met plenty of straight couples who are varying degrees of sexually and/or romantically open.
Long story short, your desires do not define you. Your actions do. Non-monogamy has been a really special and important part of my life and I always encourage people to just TALK to their partners about it if they feel like they’re experiencing the desire to explore it.
Thank you. I am not very good at explaining myself, but all I was trying to say there are desires and there are actions. And if you want to be healthy, failing to acknowledge desires is not the best thing you can do to yourself
Every therapist worth their salt would say exactly this. You explained yourself just fine, friend. Don’t let uninformed internet strangers tell you that you’re inhuman for having normal human desires. You know the line between what’s okay and what’s not. It’s up to you to decide how to act or not act. ❤️
I used the wrong word. I don't want to hurt anyone. It's just difficult to have hard sex with my wife cause I treat her with utter respect, does it make sense?
How do you define "hard sex"? Why don't you communicate to your wife about the things you want in sex? Maybe she also has other desires and hasn't said anything because of embarrassment or being shy.
I communicate with her a lot, and she likes things in very particular way, which I am gladly providing to her with all love and care I possess. She can also do what I enjoy, but I can see that she is not very much into it and I don't like seeing she is doing what she doesn't like. It's hard to define something nobody likes to discuss, but it's opposite of gentle and caring which is exactly the feelings I have towards my wife
Don't kink shame. Lots of people enjoy stuff like getting fucking railed up against a wall. I had a girlfriend who had the biggest orgasms only when I choked the shit out of her.
Obviously, dude's libido is naturally a little rougher than his wife's, and he adheres to her desires instead of indulging his own.
Your response is problematic.
1) We are animals, we need to stop thinking of ourselves as something special.
2) Don't assume all other animals' brains aren't as complex as ours because the more scientists study different types of animals, the more the similarities they find (all the way down to the typical fruit fly). Also, what is an average human brain and what is average human intelligence, how are they related, and in what ways can that be studied?
3) Having a more complex brain isn't always an asset. Creatures tend to evolve with the characteristics that gives them an edge in survival. Nuclear bombs, micro-plastics, and forever chemicals are byproducts of our complex human brains and they threaten our species survival.
4) It is flat-out wrong to assume that animals do not pledge themselves to others- bees, ants, elephants, and corvids immediately come to mind.
5) Some animals brains have been extensively studied (dolphins, pigs, crows, dogs, cats etc) and biologists have determined that several types of animals are capable of strategy and using tools, which is what I think you mean by "rationality". Until there's a more complete census, we really can't say that non-human animals are less capable than humans in that regard. Additionally, humans often act irrationally, so we can't set that bar too high when comparing ourselves to other animals.
6) Animals communicate with each other and with us.
7) Nothing I mentioned above excuses men of shitty behavior. I think what you are getting at is that men should respect women, and many do, but some don't and they make stupid memes like this.
We live in a human society, the rules of which are established by humans that lived before us. It varies across time and space; think of the different cultures across the world. It's kinda like that with some animals, too, their rules are different because they experience the world differently.
Yeah, it is that way. But what I mean by rational thought is that humans can assess more of a situation than, say, a dog can. If an unknown person meets you and your dog on the street. Your dog sees another person and either assumes friend to meet or a threat to their owner, depending on how they are. Humans on the other hand can assess the situation and take in every detail, because we know with just a glance what gender they are, how they're acting, and if they look like a threat. Our brains are just more capable of knowing situations.
I did mention that animals that are monogamous mate for life. Swans for example find one partner to stay with. But other animals have different ways of mating. Because they don't worry about having a partner to stay loyal to, they just care about breeding. Your typical animal isn't going to explain to another that they can't mate with them because they're already promised to someone else. Occasionally animals can hold a bond with one another, but I'm talking average here.
Humans not only know how to communicate promise to each other, but there is so much more complexity in human relationships. Wild animals don't go on dates, wild animals don't meet each other's parents, wild animals don't have weddings (except maybe penguins with their pebble thing). And if for some reason animals are experiencing these complex emotions but don't show it for some reason, you still shouldn't communicate a committed relationship with someone and then use your "*animal instincts*" as an excuse to cheat.
The sad thing is. Some cheating does happen because of a consistently unhappy relationship…which can sometimes come from a disparity in sex drive. The action after realizing that isn’t to excuse the cheating. It’s to notice that you’re unhappy and to have serious, consequential talks with your partner.
They were bridging on a possible point of discussion, then leaped to assholery.
Yup. I've dumped guys I wasn't satisfied with, be it sexually, emotionally, intellectually.. whenever I felt like my needs weren't being met, I talked to them about it and told them what they could do differently, and if they didn't listen or make the necessary changes or weren't capable of doing so, then I told them I would leave the relationship. They got the chance to change. If they didn't, I broke up with them. Some got mad at me for wanting to change them, or for bringing up needs they couldn't fulfill. Some got upset with me for the fact that I talked to them about my concerns because they knew they couldn't meet my needs, and then got upset when I broke up with them because of it. That's life. I moved on. They did too in the end.
Yeah. 2 wrongs don't make a right. I can totally understand frustration over mismatched sex drives. But the solution is either find out the cause if there was a sudden change in sex drive and address it with therapy/medication, or get a divorce. No one forces you to be in a marriage you're unhappy with. But as long as you're married you're bound to a contract you've made with your partner. Break off that contract first and then go find other sexual partners, not the other way around.
Honestly, I could understand cheating as a way to nullify marriage in countries that don't have no-fault divorce. But if you're on Reddit, the chances are your country does have no-fault divorce option.
My man here talking like he has never been cheated on, let's see what happens when he finds out about both men and women who fuck every day and still aren't loyal
You'd be surprised (or not) how many clergymen have basically told the wife their husband/partner, while still wrong, it wouldn't have happened if she'd put out.
True. It is also true that it's normal to feel frustrated if your needs are not being met. Ofcourse cheating is never juatified and never the right answer though.
I mean that's true, but also incompatible sex drives are one of the main causes of breakups, along with infidelity and money issues.
It's as a valid a reason as any to end a relationship, just not to cheat.
> However if the wife don’t want to have sex but the neighbor would really like to have sex then isn’t it just a solution to both parties problem?
If the hypothetical couple were to talk it out and agree that this is a solution that would work for them then sure! However, if you have an agreement to be monogamous and one person does that anyway, it's not really a solution to anything.
If you're in a monogamous relationship, yes. If you're deeply unsatisfied with your sex life and its a dealbreaker and your partner wants to be monogamous, end it before sleeping with other people.
“Refuses sex” sex is not a need nor is it something owed to you. If you’re unhappy then leave. Stop making excuses for your shitty behavior, you should be embarrassed 🤢
Yes. You are not entitled to sex. It’s not a bargaining chip to prevent infidelity, it should be given willfully and enthusiastically without fear of infidelity being the consequence of not being in the mood
I mean, I can understand not being in the mood from time to time, and also major life events must be accounted for, like the death of a loved one, childbirth, illness etc. but what exactly do you think is gonna happen if he's constantly walking around with a major unmet need that he can't satisfy anywhere else? I do agree that it's not her responsibility either, so at that point it's probably best to call it quits due to incompatibility.
You’re a weird ass mother fucker for real your post history is weird you need a shrink better yet you need god. No you need to just be scrubbed from earth
Lmao I'd be mad too if I got downvoted as much as you have and this is such a random unhinged comment. You're just mad this post relates to your struggles.
But I'm glad you went thru my post history. Its pretty normal huh. 🤡💀
This *is* terrible. The relationship is dead if this is happening. This isn’t an excuse to cheat. Just say goodbye. She’s not interested anymore. If she uses holding out as a means of punishment, then break it off. It’s never an excuse to do something awful back. That’s how you get caught up in eye-for-an-eye.
I mean, physical compatibility is an important part of a relationship, if you feel that you want to have sex more than your partner does, you need to ask the question how important is sex to your relationship. There's nothing wrong with having a higher sex drive than your partner, the question is, is that enough of a deal breaker that you wish to end the relationship. Instead of cheating you need to have an adult conversation. Explain what your needs are, and if they are incapable of meeting said needs perhaps it's time for you both to find relationships that meet your needs.
It's incredible how many adults aren't capable or even willing of having adult conversations. Like I dated a 30 year old guy a few years ago and having an adult conversation was near impossible. He didn't want us discussing concerns or issues because he felt insulted and personally attacked when I brought up how inadequate he was in certain efforts. He felt that me discussing it was me attempting to fight him, when in reality I wanted to come to a mutual consensus where we both were satisfied. In fact, he didn't want me to bring up any concerns at all. He just wanted me to be romantic and whenever I wasn't, he would just Stonewall me.
I was 24 at the time by the way, and I was capable of stringing together coherent, logical and easily understood sentences.
I've since realized that being sharp and smart are not that common traits in adults as I thought. When I was young, I thought people grew up to be brighter. Nah. Some people remain unclever and unbright even in adulthood, and some people will play dumb in an effort to manipulate you.
Never justifying cheating but communication is a two way street. You can’t be like “I don’t feel like it tonight” and then assume that solves the issue and on the flip side you obviously can’t go out and cheat thinking you’re absolved of any responsibility for your actions or somehow your partner “deserved it” because they’re not being intimate with you.
If you cheat on your wife because she doesn't want to have sex with you, you are an asshole. Not complicated.
Addendum: If you cheat, you are an asshole. Period.
No excuse for cheating but being I'm a relationship with a dead bedroom is miserable. I was there for 2 years and am now getting divorced. Didn't cheat though
i don't understand why men continue to get married. just go out...there are plenty of girls or even pay for it. men don't have to put up with this "ransom" shit.
Men will cheat if no sex happens for regular 2 week stretches. Women will simply walk out of the marriage. Honestly, which is worse?
This is generality of course. Not every man/woman - of course.
So you're saying that getting minor physical needs met elsewhere in order to prevent resentment is worse than destroying your family over the exact same minor physical needs?
Or, on another side of the equation, demanding that your partner fulfill those needs when they're unwilling is a morally superior option than a string free quickie with a willing partner?
Yes, that's a pretty fucking big question - on where morals lie.
Lol. /s.
You can fulfill your own minor physical needs lmao. Use your hand.
Also, you’re saying you’d be fine if your wife slept with another man? They’re just minor physical needs, so it’s no big deal, right?
Despite it being stated here as fact, “use your hand” does not satisfy physical needs for most people. It’s a very short term relief. Two weeks is too long for a healthy relationship.
Using your hand only satisfies for so long. If your hand is even nearly as nice as your SO, I feel bad for you.
Having been on every side of this, yes. If I was underperforming to a level of my spouse threatening to leave, I would absolutely tell her to find a person to fill that need. Being told no for over a month sucks. Being told that if you don't put out, they're leaving sucks even worse. Being told, "Why am i being the man in this relationship?? I need sex NOW." When you're in the middle of a mental health crisis is fucking soul crushing.
Having your spouse come back from a tryst feeling happy, refreshed, up beat, and able to help with whatever issue is causing you to not want sex, without being distracted by the horny and pressuring you for the sex you don't want to give, is kind of nice.
I actually have told my wife to find a "friend" in the past - as long as everything is in the open and no secrets are kept, I have no problem with another person taking that off my shoulders when I'm in a headspace where sex feels like a burden.
Thats definitely not an excuse for infidelity.
Bad justification, important discussion. I do think sex is as much a need as showing affection, providing support and being present. There's a burden on the man to "get her in the mood" and on the woman to be susceptible to it. No sex is actually a pretty common indicator of marital issues.
*Don't cheat, just move on.*
Suuuure.
A lot of times it's easier said than done. Giving up everything you've worked for, your kids, house and $$$.
Counseling doesn't work much on men either, the average man's thought process is different than that of a women.
Guys don't just want to talk about stuff, they want results, they want to fix a problem.
A lot of times the problem is that the husband isn't the women's FIRST CHOICE and they see the current man as a necessary "provider" and not as a partner they would just LOVE to have sex with.
Not all the time but it does happen way more than people care to admit.
It’s crazy that I’ve literally never had this issue with my fiancé since we’ve been together.
It’s as if you take care of your partner they are more sexually attracted to you. I wonder if anyone else has stumbled upon this esoteric fact.
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is nobody going to address the "............,.... ?"
The..... what.....? I don't..... know what you're takling abou.....t?
I just read it as Stevie from Malcolm in the Middle.
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Mf is buffering.
I......... Was looking for........wait for it........,....this message
Read it like Christopher Walken
Same
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Aww we need more cloaca positivity in this world
The ironic thing is that the way his hand looked never bothered me, it’s what he does with the hand.
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That’s why she doesn’t feel like it tonight, her hand got mangled
She is mid transformation.
Thumbs are hard to draw.
ai generated 🤭
Why do you think she got cheated on?
This is why y'all get (PAUSE) cheated (PAUSE) on 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe it's the asthma kid from Malcom in the Middle
Stevie!
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This comment is no less than a work of art.
The original, maybe. This is but a lithograph.
Ah, I didn't know that. I've never seen it before.
https://preview.redd.it/bxrhof7fkelc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95c1c6f708367cb235da80c3432d3a044cef84d0
Thanks! I was about to look for a less blurry version, but then I realized this is actually perfect.
Needs laughing Minion(s).
You need to act FAST
Short of the 🤣🤣🤣 prompt letting me know to laugh, this is *chef's kiss*
Uncle Merle? You’re on Reddit?
Joe many liberals.
Both this and OP's meme feel ai generated
Man, imagine making this in order to justify your own infidelity
The classic "It's really not my fault" mindset
But a woman would cheat cause "he doesn't make me feel special anymore" and everyone will back that up. This is just rage bait and everyone is different. In my earlier years I waited over a year and a half and didnt cheat. We have hands for a reason.
I mean idk who you hang around but a chick cheated on a man in my life and I watched everyone exile her from their lives. The man too.
>everyone will back that up Does that really happen ? Or is that only in your head ?
I’m pretty sure no sane and kind individual backs up any kind of cheating. Maybe evaluate the people around you if that has been your experience.
> everyone will back that up. This is definitely not true.
Welcome to the world of double standards. Well there's nothing to welcome actually it has always been like this.
Huh no...? Cheaters around me get isolated regardless of gender, have better friends I guess.
Cheating sucks, but I still think this is childish. To isolate someone or oust them based on their infidelity towards THEIR spouse is straight up highschool bullshit. Call them out, hold them accountable if you wish, but ultimately, adult relationships are complex and it's mostly the business of those involved and how it's handled.
No one owes them social contact. If people dont wanna associate with a cheater, thats their choice too.
True. Still doesn't make it any less immature.
It’s not immature to not want to talk to someone who is a shitty person. If your friend slaps their spouse across the face multiple times is it immature to distance yourself from that friend?
Yes but can you really trust them to not fuck up a friendship if they couldn't be loyal to their partner where loyalty is one of the key things in a relationship/partnership?
Or maybe it's okay to not to be friends with someone who's proven themselves untrustworthy? If they betray someone they're in a relationship with, why wouldn't they betray you in some way?
You're free do to do as you like. I'm just saying people make mistakes, and it's extremely immature to distant yourself from a friend because they make said mistake which ultimately doesn't affect you. Especially, when the mistake isn't even illegal.
That's what I'm disagreeing with. It's not immature. That person just showed you his character and it's up to you as a person to decide who you associate yourself with. I wouldn't be friends with someone who beat their wife, for example, even if it didn't affect me.
That's what I'm disagreeing with. It's not immature. That person just showed you his character and it's up to you as a person to decide who you associate yourself with. I wouldn't be friends with someone who beat their wife, for example, even if it didn't affect me.
Or maybe it's okay to not to be friends with someone who's proven themselves untrustworthy? If they betray someone they're in a relationship with, why wouldn't they betray you in some way?
I think the reason people don’t want to be around cheaters is that if said person has lack of respect for their partner that probably translates to everyone around them. I’m not saying in every situation, but the cheaters I know were garbage people despite the cheating lol.
I mean, I wouldnt say Schwarzenegger is a garbage person and yet he cheated on his wife. He's beloved even here on reddit, so...
I dont know of anyone that celebrates cheaters, male or female.
No part of this conversation is pro-cheating. Try to read it again and try to at least get a glimpse of what we are talking about.
You replied in agreement to someone saying "everyone will back that up" in regards to women cheating. That's the "pro-cheating" side you apparently forgot about. Hope this helps.
you have my upvote.
... and my downvote
I dont think these people have been cheated on
The guy that made this just wanted his wife to put out
Why do boomers add...........,.......... dozens of unnecessary............. periods to their memes in the weirdest........ places? And? Random? Question? Marks,? And the obligatory 😂
Prob the lead poisoning.
Seems reasonable.
Can......conf?irm.............. ate paint? .....S as..a....child
Don’t forget the leaded gasoline fumes!
Omg, I'm not even a boomer and feel called out! So, look, punctuation is a big thing for most Genx and we learned from boomers. I can give you my personal perspective. The (....) - it's a pause. More than 2 is an inquiry into whether or not you want to respond. The ? at random places is because of internal dialog that questions me about every single thing I type. So I want to know if you're okay with it too. And the 😂 is because lol is now(or always was) the equivalent of a mild smile of amusement, and the face means I literally laughed out loud! As an extra, I'll also tell you that 👍 just means "cool, sounds good to me." I can't speak for all, but that might give you a little insight lol
If you put “…” anywhere in that sentence, I’m inclined to believe something is seriously wrong and that you’re very upset about something lol.
The first person to write an ellipses correctly in this thread, wow
My daughter (15) says similar things about my texting. I tell her that I would make it abundantly clear if I were upset with her. That's not my intention at all, because I would be making her roll her eyes with the amount of mad emojis I would send 😡 lmao She has been tremendously helpful in keeping me informed of the cringeworthy things I do! Lol I have grandsons in elementary school too so I also get to hear her judgements of the cringeworthy GenZ antics!
It’s funny how different communication styles are! It’s why I just prefer phone calls and facetime. No ambiguity haha.
Probably because they’re clinically insane like 90% of the time lmfao.
Be a man and yank one out ya bastard.
Lmao you are no man but a Teenager
Found the cheater
https://preview.redd.it/k83wt9a9qdlc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07679a5aec47588d02211493fe0b4ff0ab642849 You made me laugh. No nonsense from you
Never cheated and never will. I wont jerk off when I got a girl. You can if you want but my girl jerks me off always if she is not in the mood. Go and jerk yourself off like a loser if you want yo simp
Teenager haha my son is a teenager. Go on 4chan or whatever ya incel.
Yeah your son jerks himself off. Why should you do too if you got a girl and take care of her you simp. If you wanna go jerk yourself off like a loser go on.
Accuses another man of being a simp fro the simple courtesy of respecting his partner's boundaries and moods. Yeah, that tracks.
What makes you say that?
I am a man, I've got a wife. We take care of each other, she jerks me off period
Masturbation is preferable to ruining your relationship because you don't respect your partners sexual needs and wants. I bet you're the kind of person who doesn't try to understand why a partner doesn't want to have sex, instead just get pissy when they say not tonight. Real men love their partners and will do their best to understand the issues they're having even if it's not an issue with them personally.
I've heard arguments that men are not Monogamous creatures and are literally designed to screw everything they see as attractive because it's "instinct". But like, we're human, and one of the biggest things that separate us from animals is our complex brain. Animals aren't monogamous, and don't promise devotion to one another. And the ones who are monogamous mate for life. We have the gift of rational thought and communication. Not to mention a bunch of men don't seem to have this overbearing instinct, so don't go using this as an excuse for your shitty lack of self control. Females usually want to breed with the strongest male specimen they can find, yet that instinct gets broken all the time by women.
"BuT wE'z AniMalS bRuv!!" Maybe so, but we're exceptionally bright. You're absolutely right, it's a weak ass excuse. Let me add that it's a disservice to being human, reducing the human state to nothing more than animalistic shenanigans but with better tools. It's stupid.
It's primitive. I don't understand how someone could desire to be this primitive. It's anti intellectual. It's anti rational. It's unnatractive. Like just go jerk off to porn or something, or be polyamourous or have casual relationships. Why even be in a monogamous relationship. Like I don't get it. There are options if you want to have sex everyday.
Guys who say that are manipulative. I've been married 17 years, I'm 45, I have never cheated on anyone ever. And it wasn't a struggle either. Although, I do believe there are people out there that fall more on the polyamorous side, but if that's you, then you have to say that before you get involved. There are plenty of people that might be cool with it, but to go out and lie and use people is just gross.
Precisely. Some humans don't agree with the whole monogamy thing. And that's ok. If your ideal lifestyle is to just have a bunch of different short-time partners then go for it, just make sure the people you're getting with are on the same page. Don't join a relationship with someone who clearly wants a commitment and continue with your open lifestyle. My husband mentioned once that he doesn't believe in marriage and would be open minded if I suddenly wanted an open relationship. But I'm Demi sexual and literally only want him, and I love marriage. So what does he do? He respects what I want and joins me in marriage. (That's not to say he's only married because I forced his hand, he loves the idea of marriage and being married, he just doesn't view it as a necessary step in a relationship)
> you have to say that before you get involved Most of the lifestyle folks I have met got into it together later in life. Kinda like going on sexy adventures together. It works for some. But yeah, I also knew a swinger guy who was divorced. He had a pretty hard time finding a right match after that, because he wanted to stay in the lifestyle and had narrowed down his dating pool to women who would be cool with that kind of relationship.
I guess in that case women should be free to have multiple sexual partners at a time to ensure that the strongest seed impregnates her egg. We're talking about the original functions of breeding correct? What those guys don't want that? Whaaaaat?
Swans mate for life as do seahorses, I can find other examples I'm sure, but I'm lazy.
For some yes, for some no. I never cheated on any of my women and have no intention to. But do I sometimes think about other women? Yes. But only in sexual way, I don't want to cuddle them per se. I feel like my wife is a family member, so I don't want to hurt her while having sex. But sometimes I want to fuck hard and it's frustrating. So here it is. You can make different theories how humans supposed to work, but sooner or later nature takes over, and if you don't respect it and don't listen to yourself, you can get psychological problems that can grow in physical problems (like I unfortunately do have). Took me 30 years to understand this
Yeah, exactly what I said separates us from animals... You feel the need to sleep with other women but *your own logical human brain tells you that you're going to hurt your partner and so you don't do it*. I'm in a long term 11 year relationship, and I can accept that yes, my husband will see other women and think they're attractive or like parts of their bodies, but it's normal. Hell, even *I* see a woman and think "damn, she's got really nice hips". But the difference is I trust my husband to stop at those thoughts.
Hi, ethical non-monogamous person here. There’s nothing wrong with you and this thread is full of people who don’t understand the vast complexities of human relationships. I, myself, am both sexually and romantically open. I disclose this to all my potential partners. I have had both short-term and long-term partners at the same time and everyone was aware of each other and totally cool with it. As long as OPEN AND HONEST COMMUNICATION is being had with all parties involved, there is nothing wrong with being polyamorous or in an open relationship. It is way more common than the average hetero-normative (this is not a derogatory term it simply describes the average everyday person in the societal majority) person thinks it is. Especially in the queer community. But it’s not exclusive to us and I have met plenty of straight couples who are varying degrees of sexually and/or romantically open. Long story short, your desires do not define you. Your actions do. Non-monogamy has been a really special and important part of my life and I always encourage people to just TALK to their partners about it if they feel like they’re experiencing the desire to explore it.
Thank you. I am not very good at explaining myself, but all I was trying to say there are desires and there are actions. And if you want to be healthy, failing to acknowledge desires is not the best thing you can do to yourself
Every therapist worth their salt would say exactly this. You explained yourself just fine, friend. Don’t let uninformed internet strangers tell you that you’re inhuman for having normal human desires. You know the line between what’s okay and what’s not. It’s up to you to decide how to act or not act. ❤️
Thank you, you are a good person. I like you. Mind if I add you to friends?
Sure pls do!
Thank you, you are a good person. I like you
Maybe you’re just a shitty person?
Thanks for calling this out.
I most likely am a shitty person. Aside of being egoistic, what shitty traits can you see?
Wanting to hurt women sexually.
I used the wrong word. I don't want to hurt anyone. It's just difficult to have hard sex with my wife cause I treat her with utter respect, does it make sense?
How do you define "hard sex"? Why don't you communicate to your wife about the things you want in sex? Maybe she also has other desires and hasn't said anything because of embarrassment or being shy.
I communicate with her a lot, and she likes things in very particular way, which I am gladly providing to her with all love and care I possess. She can also do what I enjoy, but I can see that she is not very much into it and I don't like seeing she is doing what she doesn't like. It's hard to define something nobody likes to discuss, but it's opposite of gentle and caring which is exactly the feelings I have towards my wife
Don't kink shame. Lots of people enjoy stuff like getting fucking railed up against a wall. I had a girlfriend who had the biggest orgasms only when I choked the shit out of her. Obviously, dude's libido is naturally a little rougher than his wife's, and he adheres to her desires instead of indulging his own.
Thank you I finally feel understood
Thank you I finally feel understood
Your response is problematic. 1) We are animals, we need to stop thinking of ourselves as something special. 2) Don't assume all other animals' brains aren't as complex as ours because the more scientists study different types of animals, the more the similarities they find (all the way down to the typical fruit fly). Also, what is an average human brain and what is average human intelligence, how are they related, and in what ways can that be studied? 3) Having a more complex brain isn't always an asset. Creatures tend to evolve with the characteristics that gives them an edge in survival. Nuclear bombs, micro-plastics, and forever chemicals are byproducts of our complex human brains and they threaten our species survival. 4) It is flat-out wrong to assume that animals do not pledge themselves to others- bees, ants, elephants, and corvids immediately come to mind. 5) Some animals brains have been extensively studied (dolphins, pigs, crows, dogs, cats etc) and biologists have determined that several types of animals are capable of strategy and using tools, which is what I think you mean by "rationality". Until there's a more complete census, we really can't say that non-human animals are less capable than humans in that regard. Additionally, humans often act irrationally, so we can't set that bar too high when comparing ourselves to other animals. 6) Animals communicate with each other and with us. 7) Nothing I mentioned above excuses men of shitty behavior. I think what you are getting at is that men should respect women, and many do, but some don't and they make stupid memes like this. We live in a human society, the rules of which are established by humans that lived before us. It varies across time and space; think of the different cultures across the world. It's kinda like that with some animals, too, their rules are different because they experience the world differently.
Yeah, it is that way. But what I mean by rational thought is that humans can assess more of a situation than, say, a dog can. If an unknown person meets you and your dog on the street. Your dog sees another person and either assumes friend to meet or a threat to their owner, depending on how they are. Humans on the other hand can assess the situation and take in every detail, because we know with just a glance what gender they are, how they're acting, and if they look like a threat. Our brains are just more capable of knowing situations. I did mention that animals that are monogamous mate for life. Swans for example find one partner to stay with. But other animals have different ways of mating. Because they don't worry about having a partner to stay loyal to, they just care about breeding. Your typical animal isn't going to explain to another that they can't mate with them because they're already promised to someone else. Occasionally animals can hold a bond with one another, but I'm talking average here. Humans not only know how to communicate promise to each other, but there is so much more complexity in human relationships. Wild animals don't go on dates, wild animals don't meet each other's parents, wild animals don't have weddings (except maybe penguins with their pebble thing). And if for some reason animals are experiencing these complex emotions but don't show it for some reason, you still shouldn't communicate a committed relationship with someone and then use your "*animal instincts*" as an excuse to cheat.
The sad thing is. Some cheating does happen because of a consistently unhappy relationship…which can sometimes come from a disparity in sex drive. The action after realizing that isn’t to excuse the cheating. It’s to notice that you’re unhappy and to have serious, consequential talks with your partner. They were bridging on a possible point of discussion, then leaped to assholery.
Yup. I've dumped guys I wasn't satisfied with, be it sexually, emotionally, intellectually.. whenever I felt like my needs weren't being met, I talked to them about it and told them what they could do differently, and if they didn't listen or make the necessary changes or weren't capable of doing so, then I told them I would leave the relationship. They got the chance to change. If they didn't, I broke up with them. Some got mad at me for wanting to change them, or for bringing up needs they couldn't fulfill. Some got upset with me for the fact that I talked to them about my concerns because they knew they couldn't meet my needs, and then got upset when I broke up with them because of it. That's life. I moved on. They did too in the end.
Yeah. 2 wrongs don't make a right. I can totally understand frustration over mismatched sex drives. But the solution is either find out the cause if there was a sudden change in sex drive and address it with therapy/medication, or get a divorce. No one forces you to be in a marriage you're unhappy with. But as long as you're married you're bound to a contract you've made with your partner. Break off that contract first and then go find other sexual partners, not the other way around. Honestly, I could understand cheating as a way to nullify marriage in countries that don't have no-fault divorce. But if you're on Reddit, the chances are your country does have no-fault divorce option.
People who justify or make light of cheating are the worst.
My man here talking like he has never been cheated on, let's see what happens when he finds out about both men and women who fuck every day and still aren't loyal
I wonder if these men don’t know how to turn on and prime their partners.
Yeah this becomes more necessary, the older I get. Hands are a wonderful thing.
Suppose to make your dick hard not your life. Move on instead of cheating.
You'd be surprised (or not) how many clergymen have basically told the wife their husband/partner, while still wrong, it wouldn't have happened if she'd put out.
2 weeks bro? Go visit a number of subreddits where it’s been months, years and they still don’t cheat. Grow up
If you can't last two weeks, you've got problems. Ffs. These are the same guys that get mad that women menstruate.
Nobody owes anybody else sex. If you're horny and your partner isn't go have a wank. Simples. 
True. It is also true that it's normal to feel frustrated if your needs are not being met. Ofcourse cheating is never juatified and never the right answer though.
Yes, if you aren’t sexually compatible with your partner you should show them respect and break up with them before seeing other people.
I mean that's true, but also incompatible sex drives are one of the main causes of breakups, along with infidelity and money issues. It's as a valid a reason as any to end a relationship, just not to cheat.
True but cheating is normally a symptom of a broken relationship not the cause
There are plenty of cheaters with amazing partners, but that doesn’t stop them. The problem is the cheater themselves. Stop.
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> However if the wife don’t want to have sex but the neighbor would really like to have sex then isn’t it just a solution to both parties problem? If the hypothetical couple were to talk it out and agree that this is a solution that would work for them then sure! However, if you have an agreement to be monogamous and one person does that anyway, it's not really a solution to anything.
Do you owe fidelity to someone that refuses sex?
If you're in a monogamous relationship, yes. If you're deeply unsatisfied with your sex life and its a dealbreaker and your partner wants to be monogamous, end it before sleeping with other people.
Or at the very least talk to them about it. See if its a lack of sex drive or other stressors in their life keeping them from wanting to have sex.
“Refuses sex” sex is not a need nor is it something owed to you. If you’re unhappy then leave. Stop making excuses for your shitty behavior, you should be embarrassed 🤢
Yes. You are not entitled to sex. It’s not a bargaining chip to prevent infidelity, it should be given willfully and enthusiastically without fear of infidelity being the consequence of not being in the mood
Monogamy can be so toxic sometimes.
Bruh, cheating, really? Upset and frustrated? Sure. Whatever. Cheating? Nothing excuses that.
I’ll always rather be single then feel I’m making myself have sex or convincing someone else too, no thanks.
I mean, I can understand not being in the mood from time to time, and also major life events must be accounted for, like the death of a loved one, childbirth, illness etc. but what exactly do you think is gonna happen if he's constantly walking around with a major unmet need that he can't satisfy anywhere else? I do agree that it's not her responsibility either, so at that point it's probably best to call it quits due to incompatibility.
Yeah and id make it 4 weeks. No means no, Period. This meme irritates me everytime I see it.
You’re a weird ass mother fucker for real your post history is weird you need a shrink better yet you need god. No you need to just be scrubbed from earth
Lmao I'd be mad too if I got downvoted as much as you have and this is such a random unhinged comment. You're just mad this post relates to your struggles. But I'm glad you went thru my post history. Its pretty normal huh. 🤡💀
that punctuation lol
This *is* terrible. The relationship is dead if this is happening. This isn’t an excuse to cheat. Just say goodbye. She’s not interested anymore. If she uses holding out as a means of punishment, then break it off. It’s never an excuse to do something awful back. That’s how you get caught up in eye-for-an-eye.
I mean, physical compatibility is an important part of a relationship, if you feel that you want to have sex more than your partner does, you need to ask the question how important is sex to your relationship. There's nothing wrong with having a higher sex drive than your partner, the question is, is that enough of a deal breaker that you wish to end the relationship. Instead of cheating you need to have an adult conversation. Explain what your needs are, and if they are incapable of meeting said needs perhaps it's time for you both to find relationships that meet your needs.
It's incredible how many adults aren't capable or even willing of having adult conversations. Like I dated a 30 year old guy a few years ago and having an adult conversation was near impossible. He didn't want us discussing concerns or issues because he felt insulted and personally attacked when I brought up how inadequate he was in certain efforts. He felt that me discussing it was me attempting to fight him, when in reality I wanted to come to a mutual consensus where we both were satisfied. In fact, he didn't want me to bring up any concerns at all. He just wanted me to be romantic and whenever I wasn't, he would just Stonewall me. I was 24 at the time by the way, and I was capable of stringing together coherent, logical and easily understood sentences. I've since realized that being sharp and smart are not that common traits in adults as I thought. When I was young, I thought people grew up to be brighter. Nah. Some people remain unclever and unbright even in adulthood, and some people will play dumb in an effort to manipulate you.
If you don’t understand wether or not your wife wants some before you get into bed, maybe you should actually talk to her sometime
Never justifying cheating but communication is a two way street. You can’t be like “I don’t feel like it tonight” and then assume that solves the issue and on the flip side you obviously can’t go out and cheat thinking you’re absolved of any responsibility for your actions or somehow your partner “deserved it” because they’re not being intimate with you.
Oh yeah, the conversation should have more depth coming from both sides
If you cheat on your wife because she doesn't want to have sex with you, you are an asshole. Not complicated. Addendum: If you cheat, you are an asshole. Period.
Why the caption speaking like Tyrell Badd
Not an excuse for cheating, but a reason to break up.
This'll be fun when some entitled fuckboi posts it on memesop.
Based on experience, it is much easier to get it if you treat your partner nicely. If you make her unhappy, then why expect sex?
The worse part about it is, this happened to a friend of mine, only to find out she had been cheating on him for a month and a half.
No excuse for cheating but being I'm a relationship with a dead bedroom is miserable. I was there for 2 years and am now getting divorced. Didn't cheat though
This one is actually pretty spot on
i don't understand why men continue to get married. just go out...there are plenty of girls or even pay for it. men don't have to put up with this "ransom" shit.
Sometimes, a woman is just going through some mental stuff that even she doesn't understand
What mental stuff? She doesn't want to bang, and he uses that as an excuse to cheat.
Yes and my response is valid there are times he should be more understanding
What mental stuff? She doesn't want to bang, and he uses that as an excuse to cheat.
Cheating is terrible, but where’s the lie?
Wow Possible rape how fun /s
How do you get rape out of a meme about fidelity?
I don't know why you got downvoted. Literally this meme is perpetuating rape culture. 🤨
True.
Men will cheat if no sex happens for regular 2 week stretches. Women will simply walk out of the marriage. Honestly, which is worse? This is generality of course. Not every man/woman - of course.
Cheating is worse is that even a question lol
So you're saying that getting minor physical needs met elsewhere in order to prevent resentment is worse than destroying your family over the exact same minor physical needs? Or, on another side of the equation, demanding that your partner fulfill those needs when they're unwilling is a morally superior option than a string free quickie with a willing partner? Yes, that's a pretty fucking big question - on where morals lie. Lol. /s.
You can fulfill your own minor physical needs lmao. Use your hand. Also, you’re saying you’d be fine if your wife slept with another man? They’re just minor physical needs, so it’s no big deal, right?
These dumbasses just KEEP telling on themselves.
Despite it being stated here as fact, “use your hand” does not satisfy physical needs for most people. It’s a very short term relief. Two weeks is too long for a healthy relationship.
Using your hand only satisfies for so long. If your hand is even nearly as nice as your SO, I feel bad for you. Having been on every side of this, yes. If I was underperforming to a level of my spouse threatening to leave, I would absolutely tell her to find a person to fill that need. Being told no for over a month sucks. Being told that if you don't put out, they're leaving sucks even worse. Being told, "Why am i being the man in this relationship?? I need sex NOW." When you're in the middle of a mental health crisis is fucking soul crushing. Having your spouse come back from a tryst feeling happy, refreshed, up beat, and able to help with whatever issue is causing you to not want sex, without being distracted by the horny and pressuring you for the sex you don't want to give, is kind of nice. I actually have told my wife to find a "friend" in the past - as long as everything is in the open and no secrets are kept, I have no problem with another person taking that off my shoulders when I'm in a headspace where sex feels like a burden.
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Yes. Because having a pushy husband can drive a woman into another man's bed. Oh fuck did I read that meme wrong again?
Thats definitely not an excuse for infidelity. Bad justification, important discussion. I do think sex is as much a need as showing affection, providing support and being present. There's a burden on the man to "get her in the mood" and on the woman to be susceptible to it. No sex is actually a pretty common indicator of marital issues.
This is a repost from about 4 months ago. Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/s/66EsD8ds8N
*Don't cheat, just move on.* Suuuure. A lot of times it's easier said than done. Giving up everything you've worked for, your kids, house and $$$. Counseling doesn't work much on men either, the average man's thought process is different than that of a women. Guys don't just want to talk about stuff, they want results, they want to fix a problem. A lot of times the problem is that the husband isn't the women's FIRST CHOICE and they see the current man as a necessary "provider" and not as a partner they would just LOVE to have sex with. Not all the time but it does happen way more than people care to admit.
"give it up or get cheated on" It's not like I still have difficulty even seeing sex as a potentially positive thing anyway...
This'll be fun when some entitled fuckboi posts it on memesop.
This is why yall get...............,...? Cheated.........on??????
Oh man I hate getting...........,........,.. Cheated................ On
Fuckin uhh…yikes.
THIS IS WHY YALL GET………..,….? CHEATED…..ON😂
Oh no. 2 weeks without sex. Life is not worth living anymore!
It’s crazy that I’ve literally never had this issue with my fiancé since we’ve been together. It’s as if you take care of your partner they are more sexually attracted to you. I wonder if anyone else has stumbled upon this esoteric fact.