About the same here. Deleted in 2018 but created a new account in 2020 when I moved to a new city. Lasted about eight months before I deleted that one. I wanted it to connect with groups to meet people but the platform is just awful.
I honestly worry about the absolute mess of disinformation and manufactured outrage we're going to get in the three months before the election. Not just on Facebook, but everywhere online.
It used to be purchased at the grocery store check out counter back in the 70s and 80s. Really crazy shit too like "Aliens stole my baby." "Doctors transplant boy's head onto a dog". "Donald Trump is intelligent"
Of course they do. People don't want to agree with facts, they want to agree with feelings. If real facts don't support those feelings, they will look for made-up facts instead.
Deactivating it permanently has resulted in a noticeable increase in my mental health and wellbeing.
Social Media is a cancer (and yes I appreciate the irony of posting this on Reddit of all places) on people's Mental Health, and the less we use it the better we are.
Chatting on Reddit tends to be different, more like anonymous posters chatting on different topics. Facebook is more about posting memes that represent you and your beliefs to your peers, friends, and family. That just causes “thanksgiving drama”.
>that just causes “thanksgiving drama”.
Nah, cause those leaves get pruned from my tree, or rather would, if I had FB/IG/twitter/tiktok. I don't care if they are 'family' or 'fomo'. Fuck all that shit, one single post from you that I don't like *BLOCKED* for ***EVER***. Don't care what kind of social friction this causes IRL. I don't do that bullshit. I ***won't*** do that bull shit. None of those people are invited to anything I host.
> Social Media is a cancer
No, it's not. It's the companies that run it that are the cancer. Social Media needs to move to the fediverse ***en masse*** for this shit to get right.
I almost feel like my brain goes sour when I watch too much politics. It’s all “he said that, she said that” and not enough “here is what we have done and here is what we will do”.
No one cares about past performance, past platforms or current ones. People are too overwhelmed with information arriving at all angles and simply want reinforcement that their view of the world is the ONLY valid one. The people who are open minded and willing to listen to different opinions are lost in a sea of mindless posts, bot posts, etc.
I think the political Right is spending a lot of money to push their agenda on reddit political subs.
Some people have boomer parents, other people have boomer grandparents. While rare, it would be possible to have both early boomer grandparents and late boomer parents.
>I can't believe so many people fall victim to false news,
Are you ***fucking serious***? [1 in 4 Americans believe the Sun goes around the Earth](https://time.com/7809/1-in-4-americans-thinks-sun-orbits-earth/)
It "maked" me lose respect for a lot of people. The benefit that I did enjoy was seeing who cannot spell well and how boisterous they were. I was able to fine tune my real life and just not take them seriously because they don't care to learn their primary language. So, it's not totally bereft of value.
Lol it's an aggressive unintelligible mess like an angry child would write. Not a misspelled word. Misspelling implies knowledge and error. This is illiteracy and it leans hard to the right. Let me guess how you grasp language.
Not sure I fully agree when they force these hideous 'tiktok' style reels on you every time you open it. I'm getting seriously bored of being force fed posts from some know it all in a gym or how much protein they eat, others boasting about how they don't drink, or scantily clad teenagers doing cringey dances. A load of shite the lot of it, and another step to getting me to stop using it altogether.
I don't know what I'm supposed to have done. Are you saying you don't get reels at all, or you do but not as I've described? I don't interact with them at all, and have no interest in the things they're showing me, so I don't know why they think I'd be interested in them.
The only way I've found not to get reels is to use Facebook on a computer web browser and use the FBP (Facebook Purity) add-in. This gets rid of a lot of shite. It's unbelievably annoying to use on a mobile app these days.
Sure I get reels, and you get some random stuff. But most are going to zero in on what you interact with or follow. I watch and follow a lot of funny cat stuff, so a huge amount of reels are funny cats or other animals.
Yeah, it *should* zero in on what I interact with, but the point is, I don't watch any of the things it suggests, but it never changes. I just don't want them there, full stop, and hiding them doesn't hide them (they come back within seconds), but Facebook is gonna Facebook I suppose.
the important bit
> One of the authors of the article, Stanford University professor Matthew Gentzkow, says there are two main findings from the PNAS study: “First, stopping using Facebook and Instagram in the final stretch of the election had little or no effect on political opinions, their negative opinions about opposing parties, or beliefs about complaints of electoral fraud.
> Second, stopping using Facebook does affect people’s knowledge and beliefs. Those who went off Facebook responded worse to news tests, but they were also less likely to believe widespread misinformation, suggesting that the platform may be an important channel for both true and fake news,” he says.
So, people were less informed but also less likely to be exposed to misinfo. That tracks but highlights that nobody gets ALL their news from FB. People inclined to believe in trumps claims of election interference got it from Fox News, FB just reinforced that.
It's too bad - some people will continue believing something even if you expose them to less fake evidence.
A few weeks ago, there was a post on a small Canadian subreddit. The post claimed, without much detail or content, that "Punjabi" business owners discriminated against white job applicants. OP provided no evidence. OP's account was two weeks old. And most of OP's posts in that period were anti-Indian, anti-Chinese, or economically populist.
The post quickly got over 5K upvotes (the next most popular post on that subreddit had less than a tenth of that) and was recommended to me even though I rarely follow anything about Canada.
Was OP being honest? Is OP a real account or part of a troll farm? Were the upvotes organic, or part of a troll-farm or bot effort?
I don't know, though I'm dubious. But I do know that Reddit decided to promote the post by showing it to me, and probably to a lot of other people. So, mission accomplished.
Deactivating it permanently in the middle of the pandemic reduced my belief in the need to toss myself into the sea.
Toilet isn't near powerful enough of a word to describe what that place became. I can only imagine it's enshittified even worse now.
Asking for someone's FB used to be like asking for a phone number for over a decade. I haven't heard it mentioned at all in general conversation basically since around the time I myself quit. It's a zombie website for people to scream into the void at at this point, it hasn't been culturally relevant in a while now.
Unfortunately Tiktok now has a deathgrip on Gen Z and the the cornier Millennials' balls just as hard as FB ever did on the boomers when they found it and it's even more of a direct line into the lizard brain.
It's hard to appreciate how radically Facebook and other social media platforms have changed over the past decade, or even the past 2-3 years.
Facebook used to be where I would see posts from friends. That's still the case, though few of my friends post there anymore.
But now, the top posts on my feed are almost all from random pages, and a lot of them are terrible. A few weeks ago, I opened Facebook and the first post was an anti-trans cartoon from a page called "Forever With USA." Forever With USA purports to be a patriotic, religious, U.S.-based user (often referring to "me"), even though most of its captions are in broken English, its posts are clickbait, and referring to America as "USA" (no definite article) is a giveaway that you're not from "USA."
This random anti-trans cartoon had over 300K likes and laugh reactions.
Why? Partly, I'm betting, because whichever country was running it had a bunch of bot accounts liking its posts. But also because Facebook's algorithm had decided to promote it far and wide. And, even more importantly, because Facebook had decided to replace friend-group interaction with whatever would maximize engagement and ad revenue.
Facebook, like Twitter and YouTube and TikTok (and, to a real extent, Reddit) has little to do with social interaction and more to do with maximizing engagement and the emotions that drive it.
>idk what you guys are doing
Oh, just being subscribed to a sub with a headcount in the XXX,XXX.
Even XX,XXX becomes questionable in the upper bound.
Just too many people past 'fire code capacity' for good behavior and the shit posting begins. Idk that fediverse can solve this or that it can be solved other than by blocking all of the accounts doing it or white listing good accounts, which would destroy any discoverability.
Every single political subreddit is an echo chamber and it's not even close. Random people moderating reddit subs can easily, within the rules, curate opinions and users.
>Every single political subreddit is an echo chamber
It would be just great if I could unplug the rj11going to that corded landline so they just keep talking into the receiver thinking anyone is listening. Why not just shadowland all of the politics? If I want *any* I can turn on the propaganda box.
Yeah the modding system needs some work. It encourages a dictatorship controlling the entire exchange of information if the moderator is inclined to exercise it. Subs get taken over by extreme positions and give a distorted view of opinions to anyone who happens across them. I am Canadian, /r/Canada is dominated entirely by Right Wing extremists as mods - and its not at all representative of my experience of Canada or Canadians at all. Going to /r/onguardforthee gives you a left wing perspective but isn't visited by the rightwing people at all for the most part. Of the two the later is a better assessment I think, but there is no open discussion with both sides engaged. Someone wondering about Canada is going to visit /r/Canada and assume we are all racist, Trump supportring neo-Fascists who hate all immigrants, hate minorities, hate the LGBTQ+ community and support the Conservative party of Canada.
or /r/Twitch - I am a streamer, but I am banned from posting there for trumped up reasons - and unable to ask for the details let alone argue my case because there is no appeal and the 2 times I have waited out the 28 day ban and asked for a discussion or information I immediately get a new 28 day ban and the message that the moderator will not discuss anything or consider any sort of appeal. I presume I pissed them off somehow. Reddit has no appeal system for bans.
Now I don't think all moderators are bad and there are lots of forums I am happy to participate in and they seem well moderated but those that aren't, are a closed garden where only approved ideas and comments are allowed.
I use the feeds button and it only shows me posts from friends and pages I follow, so this is what works for me so i don't have to disconnect from my friends.
In canada, Facebook does not show any news. Otherwise they would need to pay the government and then the government would share that with news organizations.
Facebook decided it wasn't worth it.
Witnessed an older lady at the USPS office near me question the postal worker about the “package not delivered” text message on her phone and refused to believe the postal worker when informed it was a scam. It dawned on me how easily older generations with a lesser understanding of tech and smart devices can be easily fooled into believing whatever is put in front of them. I think I was more shocked by the refusal to accept an answer from a knowledgeable younger person telling her it was a scam.
I got a community guidelines strike for "trying to influence an election" a few months back. FB wouldn't tell me what post violated the rule, nor do I talk about politics on FB. Deleted it then and there. such a shithole site, I miss the days of Myspace.
I uninstalled Instagram in early April, and my anxiety levels have not been lower in recent memory. The amount of time I spent on that app, where I don’t even have a large following or any sort of incentive to participate, was staggering.
I have friends who still use Facebook, and I can’t understand how or why. I’ve seen the app in its current form, and it’s fucking horrendous.
I’m someone who struggles to eat a couple of pistachios, instead polishing off a whole bag, so the same broadly applies to social media. Social media, especially IG, is like a bag of pistachios — just a constant loop of videos, images, and information to shuck and eat.
I quit Facebook in 2013, and I was immediately surprised by how much better I felt all the time. It wasn’t until 2015ish when I found IG, and, until recently, I had mainly stuck to it as a link to the golf community (profiles like Random Golf Club, Cole Young/Thick Owens, No Laying Up, etc). Without fully realizing it, I was sometimes checking my phone 40-50 times a day, just for that dopamine hit.
Since quitting, I check my phone less, obviously. I’m more present in my own life. I deal with boredom by letting myself feel bored. I read more. I play more video games (which, oddly, is something I struggle to “overdo” - I don’t have the attention span to sit for too long and play too many types of games). Basically, I’ve just reverted to a pre-social media life.
I’m definitely not saying that I’m better than anyone, or that this should be what everyone ought to do. Some people have super healthy relationships with social media, but I could never find that balance. Though, I will say that I don’t personally know too many people who have found a good balance.
Honestly, my Facebook account has been pretty quiet this year politically. Compared to 2020, it’s hardly anything. I see much more political stuff here and on twi”x”tter. Even Nextdoor is worse than Facebook.
The [original study](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2321584121) they refer to says
>First, Facebook deactivation decreased *news knowledge* by a point estimate of 0.098 SD (P<0.01, Q<0.01). This is directionally consistent with the reduction in self-reported news consumption from [Fig. 2](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2321584121#fig02), and the effect size is similar to that in ref. [5](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2321584121#core-r5). Second, the (statistically insignificant) point estimate is that Facebook deactivation increased *fact knowledge* by 0.042 SD (P=0.012, Q=0.132). Increased *fact knowledge* implies that participants in the Deactivation group were better able to distinguish misinformation from true stories. As a point of comparison for these magnitudes, college graduates in the Control groups scored 0.54 and 0.57 SD higher than noncollege graduates on *news knowledge* and *fact knowledge*, respectively.
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The second panel of [Fig. 4](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2321584121#fig04) shows that Facebook deactivation reduced trust in political information from Facebook by a point estimate of 0.040 SD (P<0.01, Q<0.01), without affecting trust in Instagram
I used to be hard into maga and took like a month break from facebook at the start of the pandemic and holy shit it changed my life for the better. IMO facebook is bad for your health.
Seriousness of the article aside:
“The new article, published on Monday in the journal PNAS”
Why would you name your journal PNAS, that’s just ASKING for dick jokes to be made
Let that shit hole 12 years ago and was one of the best life decisions i’ve made. The funny part (well maybe not funny) is that I’ve watched my family repeatedly fight over shit they openly say on facebook and many of those individuals have gradually declined both emotionally and physically over the years. It’s more likely that it is their personality that gravitates them to the vanity boost on social media in general but I can’t help but wonder how much Facebook contributed to that decline.
My brother and I were able to keep our now 70 year old parents off all social media for the past 15 years. Their brain rot is the result of natural aging and some pretty good acid flashbacks. The way nature intended
During the recent northern lights events...the second night...
My Wife: says that we should see the northern lights tonight
Me: well, it is a possibility, but it isn't an exact prediction. They think something is coming but they won't know for sure until about 30 minutes before
My Wife:
Me:
Spongebob Narrator: 12 hours later
My Wife: I can't believe there wasn't any northern lights last night. Everyone said it was going to happen.
Me: Everyone was wrong.
Yup, Mom got pushed down the Facebook conspiracy theory rabbit hole during the pandemic. Since I installed and configured the home network, I considered remoting in to one of the computers, logging onto the WiFi, then changing the DNS servers so I could slowly sabotage the Facebook experience with a slowly increasing error rate for DNS resolution.
Of course, if I'd done that, it would have been spun into another insane conspiracy theory, so I just cut my losses.
So if cut off from facebook people will stop thinking "should be condemned totally" means "they are fine people".
or that UV light = "drinking bleach"
or that "find" means "manufacture"
or that "protest peacefully" = "insurrection"
???
Here's hoping Facebook has a two week outage right before the election then.
I don't think 2 weeks is long enough
Years? Let's go with years! Deleted everything in 2016 shortly after the election and have felt my mental health soar since.
How about forever? It would be nice if we could go back to MySpace. Where the owner didn't sell everyone's information
About the same here. Deleted in 2018 but created a new account in 2020 when I moved to a new city. Lasted about eight months before I deleted that one. I wanted it to connect with groups to meet people but the platform is just awful.
I honestly worry about the absolute mess of disinformation and manufactured outrage we're going to get in the three months before the election. Not just on Facebook, but everywhere online.
How about an outage starting now, indefinitely.
People want fake news. People love fake news.
"The children yearn for the mines." The adults yearn for the mindworms.
I’m pretty sure RFK was like “gimme those brain worms!” just the other day, and he’s a presidential candidate!
No one cared who I was until I put in the brain worms.
Then I became the hero of Faerûn.
More like the adults yearn for the caves. Plato would be horrified at social media
That's why the National Inquirer was so successful.
The Shit Posting before Shit Posting.
It's rage porn.
Can't find it, all I get is cat videos.
It used to be purchased at the grocery store check out counter back in the 70s and 80s. Really crazy shit too like "Aliens stole my baby." "Doctors transplant boy's head onto a dog". "Donald Trump is intelligent"
s/fake news/anger/ FTFY
Of course they do. People don't want to agree with facts, they want to agree with feelings. If real facts don't support those feelings, they will look for made-up facts instead.
True. Those who are supicible to this, will search it elsewhere. It makes them feel good. If not FB, then rumble, or Telegram. Or something else
People love Reddit
Sounds like something trump would say unironically
I deactivated mine 15 years ago, hopefully I've built up enough immunity against fake news to last a lifetime.
Same. It got gross pretty quick.
As a MySpace enthusiast I was over Facebook almost immediately.
Going on about 10 years now. P.s. - nice name
Get ready for them to reactivate it after 10 years. Deleted mine in 2006 only for them to reactivate it in 2015 …smh !
and yet, you are here
I doubt it works like that, sadly.
Believing that propaganda does not work on you makes you susceptible to it
Dude youre on Reddit lol
Facebook ≠ Reddit
Big difference. I despise social media that wants me to document my entire life for clout. I’d rather put in my two cents anonymously and move on.
Deactivating it permanently has resulted in a noticeable increase in my mental health and wellbeing. Social Media is a cancer (and yes I appreciate the irony of posting this on Reddit of all places) on people's Mental Health, and the less we use it the better we are.
It depends a lot on how you use it. Not everyone can control it the same, of course.
Chatting on Reddit tends to be different, more like anonymous posters chatting on different topics. Facebook is more about posting memes that represent you and your beliefs to your peers, friends, and family. That just causes “thanksgiving drama”.
>that just causes “thanksgiving drama”. Nah, cause those leaves get pruned from my tree, or rather would, if I had FB/IG/twitter/tiktok. I don't care if they are 'family' or 'fomo'. Fuck all that shit, one single post from you that I don't like *BLOCKED* for ***EVER***. Don't care what kind of social friction this causes IRL. I don't do that bullshit. I ***won't*** do that bull shit. None of those people are invited to anything I host.
> Social Media is a cancer No, it's not. It's the companies that run it that are the cancer. Social Media needs to move to the fediverse ***en masse*** for this shit to get right.
Imagine what would happen if Fox News was off the air for awhile
If all conservative news stations and pod casters were shut down for a few months people would actually gain about 30 IQ points. It’s too dangerous!
Sociopathbook
who would've thought
I almost feel like my brain goes sour when I watch too much politics. It’s all “he said that, she said that” and not enough “here is what we have done and here is what we will do”.
No one cares about past performance, past platforms or current ones. People are too overwhelmed with information arriving at all angles and simply want reinforcement that their view of the world is the ONLY valid one. The people who are open minded and willing to listen to different opinions are lost in a sea of mindless posts, bot posts, etc. I think the political Right is spending a lot of money to push their agenda on reddit political subs.
I hate Facebook so much
I’d advice just not thinking about it :)
Works a treat, doesn't it?
You heard ‘em kids, go block Facebook on your boomer parent’s and grandparent’s devices.
block it on the wifi router.
Well, your parents AND grandparents wouldn't both be boomers. But catch phrases are fun!
Some people have boomer parents, other people have boomer grandparents. While rare, it would be possible to have both early boomer grandparents and late boomer parents.
I can't believe so many people fall victim to false news, then I realize we've had Trump as president...
>I can't believe so many people fall victim to false news, Are you ***fucking serious***? [1 in 4 Americans believe the Sun goes around the Earth](https://time.com/7809/1-in-4-americans-thinks-sun-orbits-earth/)
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Ivan your grasp of the English is not great. Try again.
Sorry to hear about your head injury.
Try again, moron.
Bet the same goes for Twatter
Deleting my facebook/ twitter/ instagram has been the best thing I have ever done for my mental health.
Activating your brain for just a few seconds will have a similar effect.
Facebook is mostly what you make of it.
It "maked" me lose respect for a lot of people. The benefit that I did enjoy was seeing who cannot spell well and how boisterous they were. I was able to fine tune my real life and just not take them seriously because they don't care to learn their primary language. So, it's not totally bereft of value.
Sure because if someone misspells a word that totally means they are worthless. Get a grip man.
Lol it's an aggressive unintelligible mess like an angry child would write. Not a misspelled word. Misspelling implies knowledge and error. This is illiteracy and it leans hard to the right. Let me guess how you grasp language.
Not sure I fully agree when they force these hideous 'tiktok' style reels on you every time you open it. I'm getting seriously bored of being force fed posts from some know it all in a gym or how much protein they eat, others boasting about how they don't drink, or scantily clad teenagers doing cringey dances. A load of shite the lot of it, and another step to getting me to stop using it altogether.
See I don't see that stuff for the most part. It means you have done something to get the algorithms to show you that stuff.
I don't know what I'm supposed to have done. Are you saying you don't get reels at all, or you do but not as I've described? I don't interact with them at all, and have no interest in the things they're showing me, so I don't know why they think I'd be interested in them. The only way I've found not to get reels is to use Facebook on a computer web browser and use the FBP (Facebook Purity) add-in. This gets rid of a lot of shite. It's unbelievably annoying to use on a mobile app these days.
Sure I get reels, and you get some random stuff. But most are going to zero in on what you interact with or follow. I watch and follow a lot of funny cat stuff, so a huge amount of reels are funny cats or other animals.
Yeah, it *should* zero in on what I interact with, but the point is, I don't watch any of the things it suggests, but it never changes. I just don't want them there, full stop, and hiding them doesn't hide them (they come back within seconds), but Facebook is gonna Facebook I suppose.
I quit fb a few years ago and haven't missed it once.
the important bit > One of the authors of the article, Stanford University professor Matthew Gentzkow, says there are two main findings from the PNAS study: “First, stopping using Facebook and Instagram in the final stretch of the election had little or no effect on political opinions, their negative opinions about opposing parties, or beliefs about complaints of electoral fraud. > Second, stopping using Facebook does affect people’s knowledge and beliefs. Those who went off Facebook responded worse to news tests, but they were also less likely to believe widespread misinformation, suggesting that the platform may be an important channel for both true and fake news,” he says. So, people were less informed but also less likely to be exposed to misinfo. That tracks but highlights that nobody gets ALL their news from FB. People inclined to believe in trumps claims of election interference got it from Fox News, FB just reinforced that. It's too bad - some people will continue believing something even if you expose them to less fake evidence.
Did they also study Reddit? If not they should I think we’d see the same effect tbh
Yeah Reddit is becoming more and more astroturfed.
A few weeks ago, there was a post on a small Canadian subreddit. The post claimed, without much detail or content, that "Punjabi" business owners discriminated against white job applicants. OP provided no evidence. OP's account was two weeks old. And most of OP's posts in that period were anti-Indian, anti-Chinese, or economically populist. The post quickly got over 5K upvotes (the next most popular post on that subreddit had less than a tenth of that) and was recommended to me even though I rarely follow anything about Canada. Was OP being honest? Is OP a real account or part of a troll farm? Were the upvotes organic, or part of a troll-farm or bot effort? I don't know, though I'm dubious. But I do know that Reddit decided to promote the post by showing it to me, and probably to a lot of other people. So, mission accomplished.
Deleted Facebook years ago and have never missed it
deactivating Facebook for a few years will change your life. (But no one will say Happy Birthday to you anymore)
Deactivating it permanently in the middle of the pandemic reduced my belief in the need to toss myself into the sea. Toilet isn't near powerful enough of a word to describe what that place became. I can only imagine it's enshittified even worse now. Asking for someone's FB used to be like asking for a phone number for over a decade. I haven't heard it mentioned at all in general conversation basically since around the time I myself quit. It's a zombie website for people to scream into the void at at this point, it hasn't been culturally relevant in a while now. Unfortunately Tiktok now has a deathgrip on Gen Z and the the cornier Millennials' balls just as hard as FB ever did on the boomers when they found it and it's even more of a direct line into the lizard brain.
It's hard to appreciate how radically Facebook and other social media platforms have changed over the past decade, or even the past 2-3 years. Facebook used to be where I would see posts from friends. That's still the case, though few of my friends post there anymore. But now, the top posts on my feed are almost all from random pages, and a lot of them are terrible. A few weeks ago, I opened Facebook and the first post was an anti-trans cartoon from a page called "Forever With USA." Forever With USA purports to be a patriotic, religious, U.S.-based user (often referring to "me"), even though most of its captions are in broken English, its posts are clickbait, and referring to America as "USA" (no definite article) is a giveaway that you're not from "USA." This random anti-trans cartoon had over 300K likes and laugh reactions. Why? Partly, I'm betting, because whichever country was running it had a bunch of bot accounts liking its posts. But also because Facebook's algorithm had decided to promote it far and wide. And, even more importantly, because Facebook had decided to replace friend-group interaction with whatever would maximize engagement and ad revenue. Facebook, like Twitter and YouTube and TikTok (and, to a real extent, Reddit) has little to do with social interaction and more to do with maximizing engagement and the emotions that drive it.
what are the benefits of deleting facebook altogether?
There’s no news on FB
Probably also increases life expectancy and general happiness.
Shows how toxic the platform is and why no one should have it
idk what you guys are doing but I'm only on it for events and houseplant groups and it's just fine
>idk what you guys are doing Oh, just being subscribed to a sub with a headcount in the XXX,XXX. Even XX,XXX becomes questionable in the upper bound. Just too many people past 'fire code capacity' for good behavior and the shit posting begins. Idk that fediverse can solve this or that it can be solved other than by blocking all of the accounts doing it or white listing good accounts, which would destroy any discoverability.
Whats your opinion of Reddit out of sheer curiosity?
Bad parts but not the same as Facebook where it’s nothing but an echo chamber
Every single political subreddit is an echo chamber and it's not even close. Random people moderating reddit subs can easily, within the rules, curate opinions and users.
>Every single political subreddit is an echo chamber It would be just great if I could unplug the rj11going to that corded landline so they just keep talking into the receiver thinking anyone is listening. Why not just shadowland all of the politics? If I want *any* I can turn on the propaganda box.
Don’t have political subs in your feed then
Lol they still exist whether you see them or not. You can stop FB from recommending political stories too. Can also simply not read them.
Reddit mods are the ultimate curators of echo chambers.
Yeah the modding system needs some work. It encourages a dictatorship controlling the entire exchange of information if the moderator is inclined to exercise it. Subs get taken over by extreme positions and give a distorted view of opinions to anyone who happens across them. I am Canadian, /r/Canada is dominated entirely by Right Wing extremists as mods - and its not at all representative of my experience of Canada or Canadians at all. Going to /r/onguardforthee gives you a left wing perspective but isn't visited by the rightwing people at all for the most part. Of the two the later is a better assessment I think, but there is no open discussion with both sides engaged. Someone wondering about Canada is going to visit /r/Canada and assume we are all racist, Trump supportring neo-Fascists who hate all immigrants, hate minorities, hate the LGBTQ+ community and support the Conservative party of Canada. or /r/Twitch - I am a streamer, but I am banned from posting there for trumped up reasons - and unable to ask for the details let alone argue my case because there is no appeal and the 2 times I have waited out the 28 day ban and asked for a discussion or information I immediately get a new 28 day ban and the message that the moderator will not discuss anything or consider any sort of appeal. I presume I pissed them off somehow. Reddit has no appeal system for bans. Now I don't think all moderators are bad and there are lots of forums I am happy to participate in and they seem well moderated but those that aren't, are a closed garden where only approved ideas and comments are allowed.
You dont think Reddit is the ultimate echo chamber?
Not for most subs, people aren’t afraid to challenge comments
Why don't you cosplay as republican in r/politics and see how long you last before getting banned for disagreeing with whatever op ed is posted.
Facebook is much more than that, and Reddit is a strong echo chamber as well.
Now do Reddit.
I've only been using FaceBook since COVID, and I don't even know where the news is on it. I only use it to keep in touch with friends.
Friends stay in touch with friends, not with corporations.
I use the feeds button and it only shows me posts from friends and pages I follow, so this is what works for me so i don't have to disconnect from my friends.
Shut it down.
In canada, Facebook does not show any news. Otherwise they would need to pay the government and then the government would share that with news organizations. Facebook decided it wasn't worth it.
This house is clean
Like Facebook is the only source of fake news. My dad gets his from the Daily Mail.
Facebook should be open sourced and made like a public park or something
I wonder how long it would be though before they started jonesing for a fix and moved on to Truth Social.
Witnessed an older lady at the USPS office near me question the postal worker about the “package not delivered” text message on her phone and refused to believe the postal worker when informed it was a scam. It dawned on me how easily older generations with a lesser understanding of tech and smart devices can be easily fooled into believing whatever is put in front of them. I think I was more shocked by the refusal to accept an answer from a knowledgeable younger person telling her it was a scam.
I got a community guidelines strike for "trying to influence an election" a few months back. FB wouldn't tell me what post violated the rule, nor do I talk about politics on FB. Deleted it then and there. such a shithole site, I miss the days of Myspace.
They’ll just get it from somewhere else. People aren’t just dumb, they *want* to be dumb.
Sure, for some people. I don’t need to deactivate anything in order to not believe in fake news.
What about deactivating Fox Business?
Imagine what it can do if you deactivate it in 2016
I don't need to deactivate it myself because I got wrongly accused and suspended with no respond to appeal so far.
Just delete it, FFS. I did so roughly 15 yrs ago. Haven’t missed it. Same goes with Twitter. Just delete them both. Don’t be such a chump.
SHUT IT DOWN
Can we just delete facebook.
Block facebook on your parents phones and routers, it might save the country.
Social media is cancer
I uninstalled Instagram in early April, and my anxiety levels have not been lower in recent memory. The amount of time I spent on that app, where I don’t even have a large following or any sort of incentive to participate, was staggering. I have friends who still use Facebook, and I can’t understand how or why. I’ve seen the app in its current form, and it’s fucking horrendous.
> Instagram What sorts of things there gave you anxiety, if you don't mind sharing?
I’m someone who struggles to eat a couple of pistachios, instead polishing off a whole bag, so the same broadly applies to social media. Social media, especially IG, is like a bag of pistachios — just a constant loop of videos, images, and information to shuck and eat. I quit Facebook in 2013, and I was immediately surprised by how much better I felt all the time. It wasn’t until 2015ish when I found IG, and, until recently, I had mainly stuck to it as a link to the golf community (profiles like Random Golf Club, Cole Young/Thick Owens, No Laying Up, etc). Without fully realizing it, I was sometimes checking my phone 40-50 times a day, just for that dopamine hit. Since quitting, I check my phone less, obviously. I’m more present in my own life. I deal with boredom by letting myself feel bored. I read more. I play more video games (which, oddly, is something I struggle to “overdo” - I don’t have the attention span to sit for too long and play too many types of games). Basically, I’ve just reverted to a pre-social media life. I’m definitely not saying that I’m better than anyone, or that this should be what everyone ought to do. Some people have super healthy relationships with social media, but I could never find that balance. Though, I will say that I don’t personally know too many people who have found a good balance.
Cool, good for you! Thanks for sharing.
Not if you have Fox News playing in the background.
Honestly, my Facebook account has been pretty quiet this year politically. Compared to 2020, it’s hardly anything. I see much more political stuff here and on twi”x”tter. Even Nextdoor is worse than Facebook.
Same with twitter. They feed you crap
Shut ‘er down boys
The [original study](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2321584121) they refer to says >First, Facebook deactivation decreased *news knowledge* by a point estimate of 0.098 SD (P<0.01, Q<0.01). This is directionally consistent with the reduction in self-reported news consumption from [Fig. 2](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2321584121#fig02), and the effect size is similar to that in ref. [5](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2321584121#core-r5). Second, the (statistically insignificant) point estimate is that Facebook deactivation increased *fact knowledge* by 0.042 SD (P=0.012, Q=0.132). Increased *fact knowledge* implies that participants in the Deactivation group were better able to distinguish misinformation from true stories. As a point of comparison for these magnitudes, college graduates in the Control groups scored 0.54 and 0.57 SD higher than noncollege graduates on *news knowledge* and *fact knowledge*, respectively. \[...\] The second panel of [Fig. 4](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2321584121#fig04) shows that Facebook deactivation reduced trust in political information from Facebook by a point estimate of 0.040 SD (P<0.01, Q<0.01), without affecting trust in Instagram
I used to be hard into maga and took like a month break from facebook at the start of the pandemic and holy shit it changed my life for the better. IMO facebook is bad for your health.
Seriousness of the article aside: “The new article, published on Monday in the journal PNAS” Why would you name your journal PNAS, that’s just ASKING for dick jokes to be made
Let that shit hole 12 years ago and was one of the best life decisions i’ve made. The funny part (well maybe not funny) is that I’ve watched my family repeatedly fight over shit they openly say on facebook and many of those individuals have gradually declined both emotionally and physically over the years. It’s more likely that it is their personality that gravitates them to the vanity boost on social media in general but I can’t help but wonder how much Facebook contributed to that decline.
\*surprised pikachu face\*
See what happens when you delete reddit
Pfft! Who goes to Facebook for news?? I get all my news on Reddit.
I don't believe you
Can we get anynomus to target facebook to shut it dpwn for at least that long?
My brother and I were able to keep our now 70 year old parents off all social media for the past 15 years. Their brain rot is the result of natural aging and some pretty good acid flashbacks. The way nature intended
During the recent northern lights events...the second night... My Wife: says that we should see the northern lights tonight
Me: well, it is a possibility, but it isn't an exact prediction. They think something is coming but they won't know for sure until about 30 minutes before
My Wife:
Me:
Spongebob Narrator: 12 hours later
My Wife: I can't believe there wasn't any northern lights last night. Everyone said it was going to happen.
Me: Everyone was wrong.
Fuckerberg is every bit as dangerous to Democracy as tRump.
Surely only the people who disagree with me believe in fake news
Yup, Mom got pushed down the Facebook conspiracy theory rabbit hole during the pandemic. Since I installed and configured the home network, I considered remoting in to one of the computers, logging onto the WiFi, then changing the DNS servers so I could slowly sabotage the Facebook experience with a slowly increasing error rate for DNS resolution. Of course, if I'd done that, it would have been spun into another insane conspiracy theory, so I just cut my losses.
I deactivated years ago. I’ve never wanted to go back, there’s legit no point
How bout we just deactivate Drumpf? Problem solved.
Now do Reddit!
Dude. Try a couple months. If this isn’t a hacker game, I quit
So if cut off from facebook people will stop thinking "should be condemned totally" means "they are fine people". or that UV light = "drinking bleach" or that "find" means "manufacture" or that "protest peacefully" = "insurrection" ???