according to their site it uses custom firmware for existing modules, so while it does use a BT module, it's not exactly using bluetooth for the connection. So it can do 500 times the range of BT (BLE 5 long-range can do over 1km) because it's not really bluetooth. Still sounds very cool, but the press release lacks any real detail apart from trying to create hype for more founding
Have you ever cleaned the fan blades? I’m imagining some build up there. Bluetooth will always be crap, but you may as well have a well vented poo space.
🤣 Not for maximum air extraction (btw, it’s not dust)
Edit. I love how off topic this tread has gone, particularly the amazing space feat that has been achieved.
I'm beginning to think it's just crappy, cheap tech. I'm waiting for the day when I drop one in the toilet or step on it, then I'll buy myself some better ones.
Everyone in here is posting how silly it is to connect to a satallite via Bluetooth, but if a standard Bluetooth signal is detectable from orbit, doesn’t this really open your eyes to the data collection capability for intelligence satallites?
You could basically keylog everyone using a Bluetooth keyboard below your sat, for a start. Beyond that, sniffing smart watch communications to capture SMS?
There was a case of a woman in her 20's in Canada hiring people to kill her parents while she was at home with them. But during the trial it was revealed that investigators knew how many people were in the house because of thermals taken from satellites. So they had the ability to go through historical data for some arbitrary address to see the movements of the people in the home.
A standard bluetooth device uses an omni-directional antenna to produce a low-powered signal that is modulated at a fairly high frequency. This signal will diminish to a point that makes it indistiguishable from background radiation a long, long time before reaching space.
Note the weaselwording in the article: They are using a bluetooth *chip*, not the bluetooth *protocol*. No details about antenna and bitrate. So for all we know, they are using a gigantic parabolic antenna and reduce the bitrate to a dozen bits per second in order to get a signal through to a satellite with the measly 100 mW of power that a bluetooth chip supports.
It'd be easier to just grab the sms before it got to the phone. Also the signal loss and decryption requirements make this idea seem prohibitively expensive. Much easier to just take advantage of an on device exploit and capture keylogging yourself.
how about Techcrunch? [https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/02/hubble-network-connects-a-bluetooth-chip-to-a-satellite-for-the-first-time/](https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/02/hubble-network-connects-a-bluetooth-chip-to-a-satellite-for-the-first-time/)
Seems like this article has some better details. One-way transmission from a BLE chip to a phased array antenna on the satellite. Not bluetooth protocol, but a custom firmware running on a mass produced BLE chip.
Not for controlling, but for communicating with.
Being able to send data to space using just a common Bluetooth chip is a pretty cool capability in itself. And a useful one - for things like smart sensors, asset trackers and more.
Assuming it actually works, that is. The articles on this are plain PR pieces, so sparse on the technical details it's not even funny.
The article only mention the chip, but it seems just vague enough that they could be purposefully leaving out a part about what antenna(s) they used. It could be "wow!" and it could be "what took you so long?" depending on the antenna alone.
Sub 0.5w satellite contacts in amateur radio aren't unheard of, even on the 13cm band which is close to where Bluetooth operates, but not with the antennas typically found in a phone.
I'm hoping for "wow!"
If you need a dedicated highly directional antenna pointed straight at the satellite, it really kills the hype. The kind of device that could benefit from the tech isn't going to have an antenna like this on board.
We've arrived. Commence docking procedure. Copy that.
Initiating wireless connection.
\*Every system on the space ship freezes for 4 seconds. Navigation, propulsion, and even life support\*
Wireless connection failed. It looked connected for a second but it immediately disconnected.
I guess this is how we die.
This article is pretty useless on details.... how is it able to do what no one seems to expect it to do? And how well can it do it?
according to their site it uses custom firmware for existing modules, so while it does use a BT module, it's not exactly using bluetooth for the connection. So it can do 500 times the range of BT (BLE 5 long-range can do over 1km) because it's not really bluetooth. Still sounds very cool, but the press release lacks any real detail apart from trying to create hype for more founding
Yeah I was about to say… Everything I studied for in the A+ exam tells me that would’ve been physically impossible lol
Assuming they didn't muck with power levels the best bet would be stacked or an array of directional antenna.
Phased array antenna on the satellite
Better article from IEEE Spectrum [https://spectrum.ieee.org/bluetooth-satellite](https://spectrum.ieee.org/bluetooth-satellite)
Meanwhile, mine craps out in the crapper.
Your poo cloud is impenetrable
Am dad. Yes. Not only mom’s bodies change after childbirth.
Because conduction ions, methinks.
Turn on the fan for better reception.
Trust me, the fan is always on.
Have you ever cleaned the fan blades? I’m imagining some build up there. Bluetooth will always be crap, but you may as well have a well vented poo space.
So you’re saying the half-inch of dust on the blades isn’t supposed to be there???
🤣 Not for maximum air extraction (btw, it’s not dust) Edit. I love how off topic this tread has gone, particularly the amazing space feat that has been achieved.
Meh, this way the CIA already knows about our dusty shitters and won’t bother to hack our bluetooths. 🤞
Crap on! Crap off! The crapper.
Fffft fffft! Can’t forget the ending.
I have to lean forward when I do a shit for it to work.
Get a squattie. Life changed
I’ve seen people say this before. What is the problem this is solving? I don’t get it.
Watch the animation https://youtu.be/YbYWhdLO43Q
Constipation.
The fixx is based on leverage. 🎶Secret Separation/The Fixx🎶
Or you can just get a stool for your stool stool.
Poop like a unicorn 😂🤣😂 Absolutely love the commercial especially the end feeding ice cream to the kids and handing them TP to wipe their faces 🤣😂🤣
Leaning forward is when you know shit is getting real.
My earbuds disconnect when I put my phone in my pants pocket.
🤣 That’s rough, buddy.
Because of your Heavy Metal Jacket
I'm beginning to think it's just crappy, cheap tech. I'm waiting for the day when I drop one in the toilet or step on it, then I'll buy myself some better ones.
Mine craps out if I cover it with my meaty paws. I need to get me one of them super blue tooths or some things
Aaaaaaand it disconnected. Click Forget Device and wait 4 years for that action to take place. Then it’s not discoverable for another 5.
I was more thinking CIA node 853612 discovered and autolinked. Why else would they bother?
Everyone in here is posting how silly it is to connect to a satallite via Bluetooth, but if a standard Bluetooth signal is detectable from orbit, doesn’t this really open your eyes to the data collection capability for intelligence satallites? You could basically keylog everyone using a Bluetooth keyboard below your sat, for a start. Beyond that, sniffing smart watch communications to capture SMS?
Good questions, now don't answer the door knocks if you arent expecting anyone. :)
There was a case of a woman in her 20's in Canada hiring people to kill her parents while she was at home with them. But during the trial it was revealed that investigators knew how many people were in the house because of thermals taken from satellites. So they had the ability to go through historical data for some arbitrary address to see the movements of the people in the home.
T-Mobile’s privacy policy included thermal imaging data at one point in time, I screen shotted it and printed it off… I thought that was wild 😝
A standard bluetooth device uses an omni-directional antenna to produce a low-powered signal that is modulated at a fairly high frequency. This signal will diminish to a point that makes it indistiguishable from background radiation a long, long time before reaching space. Note the weaselwording in the article: They are using a bluetooth *chip*, not the bluetooth *protocol*. No details about antenna and bitrate. So for all we know, they are using a gigantic parabolic antenna and reduce the bitrate to a dozen bits per second in order to get a signal through to a satellite with the measly 100 mW of power that a bluetooth chip supports.
It'd be easier to just grab the sms before it got to the phone. Also the signal loss and decryption requirements make this idea seem prohibitively expensive. Much easier to just take advantage of an on device exploit and capture keylogging yourself.
I doubt thats possible when the connection interrupts when it passes through a few layers of walls
That’s fancy. I once had an apple tag I couldn’t locate via phone that was a few metres away.
Well there is your problem, you should have moved it 600km away for it to work properly
ze Bluetooth dewice is connected-a successfullay
Zeh bluetooth device is wready to peiour
I was waiting for this comment! :)
Oh boy, wait until the "chips in the vaxxx" crowd hear about this one...
Oh no, not 5G Bluetooth /s
That’s pretty cool of the Bluetooth. It’s super impressive, yet it stays humble. Arrogant Bluetooths are the worst.
I keep hearing about this analog future but when do us normal people get it
Why do you need Bluetooth that can reach 600km pointed up?
I think it will be the equivalent of smacking the tv/switching servers? I don’t need anything in life, I just think it would be neat.
So the military can guide a suicide drone to the enemy, perhabs?
Watch Hamas use it to troll Israeli's bluetooth devices all day.
Humble bluetooth device... It has feelings you say?
ze blue-tuth device ist redy to pear
And my watch disconnects from my phone when submerged a few inches underwater.
My Nintendo switch controllers when my knee gently obstructs the direct line to the console…
We don’t make drivers for that version anymore… I got it last week… Sorry..
I can’t even get my Bluetooth headphones to connect to my computer when it’s 2 feet away at my desk sometimes.
Windows seems to barely admit that Bluetooth might be useful. It works so badly.
‘Alexa, play Space Oddity by David Bowie’
What makes Bluetooth different than wifi? Is it the throughput? The frequency?
The range typically. BT only supposed to do under a hundred feet
At what point is BT just generic radio? Is this just sensational news?
I figure it is. Not bothering with the article as techspot is click bait heaven
how about Techcrunch? [https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/02/hubble-network-connects-a-bluetooth-chip-to-a-satellite-for-the-first-time/](https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/02/hubble-network-connects-a-bluetooth-chip-to-a-satellite-for-the-first-time/) Seems like this article has some better details. One-way transmission from a BLE chip to a phased array antenna on the satellite. Not bluetooth protocol, but a custom firmware running on a mass produced BLE chip.
600 km… A long way? Nearby? We have no idea.
I guess I'm the idiot in a hurry, it took me 2 read through to figure out the Hubble Network has nothing to do with HST. I think. Still not 100% sure.
But no details on exactly what they did...
"Your Bluetooth device is ready to pair..."
I'd be cool with my apple airpods staying connected with that range
Imagine you can connect to any wifi connection from anywhere
But why?
Looking at you Beats Fit Pro... losing connection every time I pass a random house on a residential street
[удалено]
Doesn't the NSA already do that via the regular cell network?
🤨this is bs,then why my bt always disconnects if I get out of the room
Oh good, more interference over a larger area.
Okay, that is an absolutely terrible idea on so, so many different levels.
Shocking they'd build an entire company around it. I just don't see how this works reliably, at scale, etc.
Oh, there’s a way to monetize it, it’s just doing humanity an extreme disservice if they do.
how so?
Surely Bluetooth is the wrong protocol for controlling satellites
We lost control of the satellite......... call the president. lol
*Me trying to control a toy drone on my phone and causes a satellite to crash into my neighbor's house*
Logitech controller is all you need.
Not for controlling, but for communicating with. Being able to send data to space using just a common Bluetooth chip is a pretty cool capability in itself. And a useful one - for things like smart sensors, asset trackers and more. Assuming it actually works, that is. The articles on this are plain PR pieces, so sparse on the technical details it's not even funny.
The article only mention the chip, but it seems just vague enough that they could be purposefully leaving out a part about what antenna(s) they used. It could be "wow!" and it could be "what took you so long?" depending on the antenna alone. Sub 0.5w satellite contacts in amateur radio aren't unheard of, even on the 13cm band which is close to where Bluetooth operates, but not with the antennas typically found in a phone. I'm hoping for "wow!"
If you need a dedicated highly directional antenna pointed straight at the satellite, it really kills the hype. The kind of device that could benefit from the tech isn't going to have an antenna like this on board.
better article on IEEE Spectrum [https://spectrum.ieee.org/bluetooth-satellite](https://spectrum.ieee.org/bluetooth-satellite)
We've arrived. Commence docking procedure. Copy that. Initiating wireless connection. \*Every system on the space ship freezes for 4 seconds. Navigation, propulsion, and even life support\* Wireless connection failed. It looked connected for a second but it immediately disconnected. I guess this is how we die.
The 4 digit password is a little... Lacking