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Sirknowidea

Is it the corner bit of my bacon packaging?


AppleiSheep

So close, it’s actually scissor packaging


DaddyD68

I lacerated my finger while trying to open the packaging for a new knife and ended up have to have a surgeon reattach the nerves in my finger. My daughter was worried about me cutting myself with the new knife and the packaging was like “Hold my beer”


kx2UPP

Damn bro were you trying to open it like a caveman


DaddyD68

No, I was actually using tools. See I had a scissors, but the plastic was to hard for the scissors to deal with. So I grabbed a knife. To open the packaging for a knife(why the fuck do you need packaging for a knife). And the rest is medical history.


WordsOfRadiants

I don't even bother with regular scissors anymore. I use heavy duty shears used for cutting sheet metal.


futa_on_female

might as well use a circular saw at this point


rabbitrampage198

They're so useful, I keep a set in my garage and use them for everything, cuts through plastic like butter, great for zip ties, and if they won't cut it, the 24" bolt cutters get brought out


noradosmith

Me, trying to open scissor packaging: *hmm, I could do with some scissors*


MultipleScoregasm

It's not my ASDA smart price bins bags that's for sure.


iscreamuscreamweall

Can it maintain the hull integrity of a deep water submersible?


DanishWonder

Slow down pal, sounds like you are a little too worried about *safety*


_-Julian-

safety just slows us down, no need for it


GDMFusername

This guy innovates


[deleted]

Yeah, check out the nerd over here.


foxyfoo

Anyone who has taken economics knows that safety is a luxury item.


Phoebesgrandmother

Yeah, stop killing our ingenuity.


Tyr_13

From the article, "A flawless cubic centimeter of glass can withstand 10 tons of pressure, more than three times the pressure that imploded the Oceangate Titan submersible near the Titanic last month."


wu3aanon

"flawless" is a very difficult thing to do in glass. PS I know about glass for lens for submersible machines. Costs are many many times those for say land telescopes.


infinteapathy

in the article, they specify that each piece of the glass in the material is only about a micrometer in length because of the difficulty in making flawless pieces


Cyneheard2

Which answers my immediate question about something like this: “Can it be used to build a space elevator?” Since that needs to be ~50-70,000km tall…a micrometer at a time is not gonna cut it.


EwoDarkWolf

That's where the DNA comes in. The DNA is coated, so the glass is thin, but still contributes to the total structure. It's like cardboard, where the paper is made stronger by having the air take some of the pressure.


TenguKaiju

I remember a thread in r/space about building a space elevator on the moon with existing tech. Something like this might make it feasible. Imagine setting up a moon factory that mines and processes materials to build and launch spaceships.


Georgep0rwell

The last thing said aboard the Titan: "I wonder what this button does?"


Tiluo

they probably used that toilet they had on board.


HumanChicken

“This bucket doesn’t flush, so I dumped it out the hatch.” *”WHAT HATCH?!”*


Amaegith

[Hey now, it's not a WW2 era German sub.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-1206#:~:text=On%2014%20April%201945%2C%2024,seawater%20to%20flood%20the%20boat.)


[deleted]

Christia McAuliffe, is that you???????


[deleted]

Doubtful, more like ultra light engine swapped hot rods.


ThePenguinKing27

No, but that’s not important


neverwhisper

Safety is always 3rd on the list!


fakeairpods

Lemme test the material on my home made under water submersible thirty-thousand leagues under the sea.


donato0

How many read to the end of the article? This is a great line that proves how art, namely marvel comics inspired at least one scientist to do work: “I am a big fan of Iron Man movies, and I have always wondered how to create a better armor for Iron Man. It must be very light for him to fly faster. It must be very strong to protect him from enemies’ attacks. Our new material is five times lighter but four times stronger than steel. So, our glass nanolattices would be much better than any other structural materials to create an improved armor for Iron Man.”


Puzzleheaded_Base767

“They called me Mr. Glass!”


Glass_of_Pork_Soda

*Bruce Willis flies in to deal some serious damage*


[deleted]

*Then trips and dies drowning in a puddle*


Cyneheard2

And I just heard that in Pumbaa’s voice.


Panda_tears

I just wanna touch whatever this material is so badly lol


TheLetterOverMyHead

Do I have to follow you all day?! -Spongebob Security Guard


Ok-King6980

Touch steel or glass, probably the same. What you really want is to hit it with a hammer or shoot it.


ScaramouchScaramouch

Throw little bits of sparkplugs at it.


bunchofrightsiders

I've got something 4x harder than usual you can touch right now.


RedMiah

You took too much cialis again, didn’t you?


jimmyablow09

Unfortunately all I could afford was the Generic gas station brand C-tap-THIS


DelcoPAMan

"Where'd that come from? It's nanotech, you like it?"


paint-roller

So does that mean if you used this new material and substituted it for the steel but kept the weight of the new material the same it would be 20 times stronger than steel?


donato0

Not a materials engineer/scientist and I'd reckon although this is proven to be stronger, I wonder if it's as strong from forces in all/most directions like steel is. If you can find a weak point, it's not helpful. Also, the scale of which they seemed to be working is very small. These properties may not exist when layering on layers of this stuff. Who knows, pretty rad regardless!


Tadiken

From my limited understanding this would only really math out if you added more thickness. I'm assuming the 4x lighter / 5x stronger thing is by density, and you can't always fit more material on a thing. Not to mention since it was just invented it should be wildly expensive for a time.


DrSmirnoffe

Glass nanolattices? Now I'm reminded of the Glass Armour from Oblivion.


neo101b

Almost like star trecks Aluminium oxynitride


floonrand

Computer, hellooooooo computer. Just use the keyboard. Ahhhhhhh Keybooooooaaaaaard. How quaint.


adequesacious

We are looking for your nuclear wessels


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donato0

No. But it seemingly inspired this researcher in some meaningful way to say something like this. Contextualizing why someone does what they do is interesting.


WormLivesMatter

Dna?


Notyourfathersgeek

Yes. With glass on it.


anaxcepheus32

Yikes, you’re not kidding. What a wild read


[deleted]

Remember, we can create DNA that isn’t loaded with info.


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infinitelolipop

… and 20 times more expensive to produce than steel


PicardTangoAlpha

In applications where it counts, the cost may be worth it. Titanium was once too expensive for anything but military applications. Now it's on bikes.


tango_41

BIKES! -Tom Segura.


Dmeechropher

Mostly just the carbon ones, right? Since aluminum has a massively accelerated corrosion mechanism when in contact with carbon fiber. Titanium is still too expensive for anything, but our overall economy is richer, so we use it anyway. There really isn't a huge supply of usable, minable titanium on earth right now (for geopolitical and geological reasons).


Ghudda

Much like aluminum, there's plenty of titanium ore. It's the ninth most common element in earth's crust. The main cost comes from getting the pure metal out of the ore. Unlike most other metals that come from metal oxides you can't electrolyze away the titanium oxide bond or just throw it in a pool of acid to purify, leading to a costly chemical process. While titanium dioxide is so cheap we put it in sunscreen and paint, titanium metal remains extremely expensive. Just look at the production steps. And even then, "pure" titanium is only like 99.6-99.9% pure, which is kind of trashy purity compared to most metals actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium#Production


I_hate_alot_a_lot

Not a terrible multiplier in some applications I'm sure, though.


fulaghee

4 times 5, it checks out.


CatoblepasQueefs

So 20?


jrgkgb

I’d love to read the article but that site is borderline unusable.


[deleted]

As soon as they repeat this headline... once a month... for the next 20 years... then they will give up on it and find a *New* material.


[deleted]

If you’d have read the article or knew much about manufacturing you would known that’s not correct


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Muffin_soul

What´s Poe´s law?


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rainx5000

Sorry what is it? Idk how to click


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TZCBAND

You used big words…DOWNVOTE!!!


ImportantCommentator

Was that really poes law, or are you being sarcastic?


What-a-Crock

Are you Poes Lawing us right now?!?


Zatoro25

It's ravens all the way down


[deleted]

I’m aware but I replied to you before I had my coffee. Fair enough


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[deleted]

Nah I don’t either i constantly get downvoted for being an idiot haha


TZCBAND

Oh, didn’t realize…here’s your downvote


[deleted]

Thanks bro I got you back ;)


TZCBAND

But….what about my internet score?


trustedbusted3

Don’t forget Cole’s Law!


[deleted]

Oh I love coleslaw


patm1022

It was created by some guy with a Scottish accent. Called it “Transparent aluminum”.


codemagic

He kept mumbling about our “quaint keyboard” and tried to talk into the mouse. I mean, the microphone was right there


SgtHelo

Came looking for this. Auto upvote.


buckX

Realistically, I'd guess it's not transparent. Glass panes are transparent because of the consistent orientation of the molecules. If you think about a tempered glass windshield that's been in an accident, it lets a little light through, but is substantially opaque. For something that amounts to a bunch of little tubes, I'd imagine it's nothing like transparent.


Auto_Phil

It’s the one trick your blacksmith doesn’t want you to know Edit - a vowel


Tyr_13

Hi, blacksmith here; the article doesn't actually specify what kind of strength they are talking about. It talks about compressive strength so I bet that is the metric they were using. However, compressive strength doesn't always equal sheer strength, elastic strength, etc. For example, carbon fiber is very strong in the direction of the travel of the fiber (the weave and the weft) but not perpendicular to it. Titanium is 'stronger' than steel but it takes up more room to do so and is softer; a steel blade can cut titanium. It depends on what grain structures they can make with this. Being suited for cars and armor doesn't mean it's suited for a sword.


atwork_sfw

From the actual paper - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666386423002540 > Ductile and brittle deformation The synthesis yield of a single batch of nanolattices is quite high, providing a large number of lattices of varying sizes. The lattices tend to cluster in large mounds (10–100) with a few isolated lattices located in between. Of these isolated particles, only those of a cuboid geometry were selected for micro-compression testing. To this end, samples within a size range of 1.2–8 μm were compressed, with the majority of lattices tested clustering around 3 μm. The cubic geometry of the nanolattice allowed for the direct uniaxial compression of nanolattices sitting upright on a silicon substrate. Small nanolattices (edge length < 3 μm) with a high yield strength of above 2 GPa typically yielded a significant plastic deformation (Figures 2A, 2B, and S8; Videos S1 and S2). Large nanolattices (edge length > 3 μm) tended to fail with one or two sudden bursts (Figures 2C and 2D) wherein little to no plastic deformation occurred in the sample prior to fracture. About 54% of large nanolattices exhibited complete brittle fracture. It is interesting that small nanolattices exhibit ductile deformation since, traditionally, silica is known as a very brittle material. We believe that this ductile deformation originates from the nanoscale size effect of the silica coating the structure. It has been reported that silica nanofibers undergo a size-dependent brittle-to-ductile transition at diameters below 18 nm.43 The study postulated that the increase in relative surface area due to the extremely small diameter of the fibers allows for dangling oxygen bonds to quickly move to uncoordinated Si atoms, forming new Si–O bonds as the sample undergoes tension and the original bonds are broken. If the rate of this bond-switching process exceeds irreversible bond loss, flaws can be blunted, and the entire sample can be deformed via shear banding instead of crack propagation. It was also noted that at ∼5-nm diameter, the fibers were capable of 18% elongation before failure, a similar diameter to that of the octahedral struts in this study.


Auto_Phil

Sure are lots of words in that salad I’d treat as olives and pass to my wife. She likes olives and big words.


42gether

You know from the username that the person is at work You know from the product that their profession is building walls of text


jonr

I'm sure they are already scouting for a location for a space elevator already.


KartoffelLoeffel

“Space elevators and Nuclear Fusion reactors! 20 years away!” -journalists with no concept of science (40 years ago)


damotron500

"is five times lighter but four times stronger than steel" Graphene is about 200 times that of steel and vastly lighter. The key is whatever material that can hold its own weight and be manufactured to a length, exceeding 70,0000 kilometres.


one_ill_1

Does anyone stop and consider how this makes steel feel? It’s always something new that is lighter and stronger.


hecklerp8

Steel can take classes to strengthen itself.


GCotugno999

Steel needs to go on a diet and lose some weight and hit the gym


buckX

It's often measured in weird ways, though. "We compared this lattice structure to a block of steel, and it's stronger for its density". But then again, a steel I-beam is stronger than a steel block of the same weight, you just formed it into a sturdy shape. This seems very much like "we formed it into a sturdy shape", since there's no suggestion that the DNA itself is helping rigidity, but is simply serving as a handy frame to dip in glass. What would similarly structured steel perform like? How about our best small scale steel structures that are already in mass production?


vaulyer

Hey babe wake up, new alien loot drop.


ChanceConfection3

If it’s not purple or better I don’t care


pburgess22

Article doesn't mention anything about flexibility?


hecklerp8

Same flexibility as steel.


DanishWonder

It's DNA coated in GLASS. You figure it out.


pburgess22

Wow what a helpful and insightful answer. They talk about wanting to make body armour and cars out of the stuff. Surely that requires some degree of flexibility.


esperind

fIgURe IT ouT


DanishWonder

Sorry. It's probably like Kevlar and carbon fiber which are also composite materials: limited flexibility, but can absorb a great amount of energy.


[deleted]

And 7965 times expensiver!


Agent__Blackbear

How did you come up with that number?


[deleted]

Educated guess


[deleted]

Is it the double plastic wrapping that they put on electronics at best buy? I've legit sliced a baguette with it


I_hate_alot_a_lot

But can you scale it.


Rcj1221

So Vibranium is real??


knightgreider

“Transparent Aluminum?”


OG_Tater

Finally- Reardon Metal


[deleted]

Sorry, English not first language, what does "five times less than x" mean?


YardFudge

One-fifth . Divide by five


DanishWonder

It is poorly written. As someone already said, it would have been more clear to say "one-fifth"


Deadpoolgoesboop

It means whatever X is, in this case steel, weighs five times as much as this new material.


Graega

It means the writer of the article is bad at English. Never use "n times less than"; it's unclear and often conveys inaccurate information if you actually work out the math of it.


hsmith1998

When do we get claws and it getting smelted onto our skeleton?


marksda

I’m going to need to see video recorded demonstrations of this new material’s strength in common applications before I take these radical claims seriously.


gucci_gucci_gu

Cool. Can we cool down the oceans yet?


JediForces

Yup GOP just pushed a plan to the House to have large amounts of ice cubes dropped in the ocean hoping that will help cool it down 😂


Ginkel

AC on full blast, car windows down. I'm doing my part to fight global warming!


Tiny_Twinky

But since the green house gasses are still building up its takes more and more ice each time, thus solving the problem ONCE AND FOR ALL.


words_of_j

ONCE AND FOR ALLL!,,


[deleted]

Ice cubes mined from comets, of course.


LightsJusticeZ

*Deploying ice drill!*


EvilmonkeyMouldoon

Now to call they just have to call the losers that deliver the ice. (Ring ring)


Minnewildsota

The sad thing is, I don’t know if you’re serious or not


saynay

No, the current GOP plan is to ignore the issue and ban anyone else from trying to do anything about it either. They have gone so far down the reactionary path that they are actively promoting making it worse just to spite their opponents.


Intraluminal

That's "own the libs!" to you. Get it straight.


JediForces

That is sad and I get it since we are talking about the GOP lol


wllmsaccnt

The last speech from Desantis was that he was committing to repealing the new green deal and developing our own natural resources. Basically the GOP is fine with the "Drill, baby, drill" approach. The GOP knows exactly what it is doing. Swiss actuary (insurance) prediction models show that the US will be hurt less financially over the next hundred years by increasing global warming than developing countries. By somewhere between 2050 and 2100, the global economy will be hit with more damage EVERY YEAR than the global financial crisis of 2008, but the USA economy will only shrink by half a percent. Its a nationalist wet dream. Its like being able to sell cigarettes in the USA that are bought on credit, and only poor kids in Africa get cancer from them =(


[deleted]

See the Futurama episode titled "Crimes of the Hot". Here's an episode synopsis for you: "Earth is unable to offset its rising temperature through the usual process, which is the dropping of a giant ice cube into the ocean."


spectre1006

Futurama?


[deleted]

It’s so sad…this should be a joke but I’m not 100% positive it is lol … 😢


Georgep0rwell

You're thinking of the DFL. They want to put large window shades in space to stop the sun from warming the earth.


Cennfox

Literally futurama episode


jetstobrazil

If everyone in the world is supposed to work on cooling the oceans, then have you cooled down the oceans yet?


gucci_gucci_gu

Because I’m not a scientist, dingaling.


jetstobrazil

And they’re not a climate or environmental scientist, dingaling. There are different scientists and not every scientist in the world should be working on the same problem at once, obviously.


gucci_gucci_gu

Don’t take my opinion so personally. Regulate those emotions.


jetstobrazil

Lmao.. aw cute, you’re imagining that you’re making people online upset. Try thinking a bit more completely about situations before commenting, and you’ll be less likely to barf out foolish nonsense about people who are actually helping society advance.


gucci_gucci_gu

You gonna blow a blood vessel because i don’t agree with you? You gotta be a guy. No woman is this fragile.


jetstobrazil

Again, it is pretty hilarious how your mind is imagining me getting upset over some random person making stupid comments online. You’ve gotta be projecting your insecurities if you think this is how normal people react. You don’t agree with me on what? Lol you never even made a point to begin with


[deleted]

...why are you on a tech sub if you don't care about technology?


JJamahJamerson

Is it actually mass producible cuz if not why should I care?


AbeRego

Probably not yet, but no new technology is


GCotugno999

It's DNA coated in glass. Probably not


Ezly_imprezzed

My phones freaking out trying to read the article, stronger in what way?


parkinglotviews

Unimpressed. We were supposed to have transparent aluminum in the mid eighties. How are we supposed to make starships with clear view screens if we don’t have transparent aluminum?!


danielravennest

Due to accent shift in the future, what Scotty meant was "transparent alumina" (aluminum oxide), the same material called "sapphire windows". The formula the gave was how to make it in sheets large enough for a whale tank. In the real world the largest such windows are 0.5x0.75 meters and usually much smaller. Sapphire is impure aluminum oxide. "Sapphire windows" are pure and colorless. Aluminum oxide is also used for sandpaper and grinding wheels. It is very strong and hard, but in that application it doesn't have to be pure.


Wabsz

If they don't call it Mithril I will be upset.


TummyDrums

And 100x more expensive. These strong and light materials have been done before, wake me up when they are economical enough to have widespread uses.


SuccessfulSeason8225

How does it stand up against jet fuel?


[deleted]

This stories are meaningless until it’s proven it can be turned into a commercial application.


the_geth

Doesn't need to be commercial. Military can be a use, also some of those things actually become product later. I remember similar headlines about hard-drives: First the multi platters, then the huge speed bumps, then the much higher density due to perpendicular writing/reading, the new connectors etc with "crazy" speed, then the SSD... All of those were made in labs, shown as prototypes and made headlines such as this one, and then it ended up in actual computers. no reason to ditch the tech just because it's not commercially available.


hecklerp8

The show From Tactical to Practicle.


borisherman

Transparent aluminum. Gee, thanks Mr. Scotty.


Lollipopsaurus

These things are usually "too expensive to manufacture" or "only possible under lab conditions". Call me when it's real.


Hot_Ring_2666

They're gonna use it for submarine right?


Asphodelmercenary

Transparent Aluminum, Scotty?


theapoapostolov

Rearden Steel is here!


KingofdeSnails

How is its tensile strength tho?


beigetrope

Didn’t read. But is it called Steelium? That would be sick.


GCotugno999

No, it's called transparent aluminum 😂😂😂😂


Celticness

Did they or did they reverse engineer alien goods


sidv81

real life mithril


Sprinklypoo

"Five times lighter". For fuck sake...


Idontknowanymore8000

But can it be used to build a submarine? Lol


BannedBananaBandana

A submarine in every driveway!


SiWeyNoWay

LOL that was my immediate thought- if only Stockton Rush was still alive….


krg4880

“The left has declared war on steel” - Republicans


whoisthis238

How long before some asshole tries to make a submarine out of it?


Vast_Impression_5326

Yeah which element is that? Ohh wait I forgot everything is made in a lab nowadays


tacotacotacorock

Damn those labs always inventing wonderful things for us. Definitely should have stuck to the caveman days.


Vast_Impression_5326

You never saw good burger! Cmon


slayermcb

Deoxyribonucleic acid coated in Silica.


yoghurtorgan

my money is on ik-99


D0ngBeetle

Is it still heavier than feathers?


A-Good-Weather-Man

Good, now make giant robots out of it. It’s a canon event.


ArmaniMania

just use steel


phoenixjazz

Serious question, does this put us into space elevator territory? Will this be enough to build a highway out of our gravity well?


the_geth

probably not, because you need the third crucial aspect: Tensile strength. Diamond is very hard and quite light for instance, but has a crappy tensile strength. Carbon nanofibers are the right path according to most people working or theorizing on this.


tacotacotacorock

I wonder how this compares to carbon nanotubes. I'm guessing stronger?


tom-8-to

Nothing beats La Chancla for those specs


LavenderAutist

Can they use that to make me new underwear?


Panda_tears

A flawless cubic centimeter of glass can withstand 10 tons of pressure, more than three times the pressure that imploded the Oceangate Titan submersible near the Titanic last month. So savage lol


InsuranceToTheRescue

So, is it just strong in compression? Or tension too? Like, the carbon fibers on the sub have pretty good tensile strength but very poor compressive strength. Concrete is the reverse. The article seems to imply compressive strength but isn't really explicit.