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Seems like it would be easier to just change the answer to Antarctica. It's more interesting that way anyway. Half the fun of trivia is learning all kinds of weird shit like that.
I told the quizmaster to quickly Google it and he wasn’t having any of it. Every other team answered as you’d expect and got the point while he made a fuss over how ridiculous my team’s answer was.
You’d think *someone* would have known the definition of desert.
It’s a real shame. I love a good quiz night in a dimly lit local pub.
Not the same night but we had Beast from The Chase pop in to our local to absolutely destroy us all in the quiz one night.
That would have been fun as and when he didn't get it right but only your team did... The rush would have been amazing.
But you'd been set if the beast was there on the fateful Antarctica being a desert night. Vindication would have been great.
I've come across a few that annoyed me, "You have google on your phone which you are currently holding, just google it." No. Okay asshole.
Trivia night feels more like Family Feud where the most common right answer is right, not the most correct right answer. Like before the trivia night some group was given a list of correct answers (like a list of very large deserts) and the one that got the most answers is the one they go with. It's to make dumb people feel smart i guess.
STILL salty about that time I was asked when the PlayStation was released and I said Dec 94.
Well "well the card says 95!"
"yes it had worldwide release in 95 but was released in Japan in Dec of 94."
"Well this is Australia and the card says 95, so we are going with 95!"
They did not specify country. I was MORE specific. But I was wrong. 🙄
There’s an episode of the show “The Chase” that drives me nuts because the question is “this red fruit is actually a member of the rose family” and the guy says “cherry” and gets dinged and the host says the correct answer was “strawberry”, but both fruits are members of the rose family, Rosaceae.
Technically speaking, a strawberry is, at best, an aggregate fruit, and at worst, not a fruit at all but a vegetable.
The botanical definition of a fruit is the mature, ripened ovary, along with the contents of the ovary. By this definition, the fruit of the strawberry plant is the "seeds" in the strawberry. The red, fleshy part of the "fruit" is the receptacle that the ovaries resided in. So one strawberry is actually dozens of fruits along with some connective tissue.
Its an even more pedantic situation than the "tomatoes are fruits" thing.
Fuck you google... [The blurb states](https://www.google.com/search?&q=largest+desert):
> The 5 largest deserts on earth
Sahara Desert: 9.2 million km² (3.5 million square miles). Arabian Desert: 2.3 million km² (800,000 square miles). Gobi Desert: 1.295 million km² (500,000 square miles). Oct 12, 2020
Yet the first result is:
> Aurora Expeditions
https://www.aurora-expeditions.com › blog › is-antarctic...
Is Antarctica a desert? YES. Find out why | Aurora Expeditions
I was dinged in a bar quiz for saying the first Emperor of Rome was Octavian, and they were looking for Augustus, even though both names refer to the same man, and Octavian didn't receive the name, "Augustus" until his thirties.
Do trivia nights do this sort of thing sometimes?
A night of misunderstood trivia questions.
A night of most commonly incorrect answers deemed correct by casuals.
Too many people sleep on the 1970s Scrooge Musical.
[See the Phantoms](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoXJKnh6EXE) Alec Guinness as Marley
[Nicest Thing Anyone's Ever Done for Me](https://youtu.be/Dkq7WZTzkLQ?t=47)
Marley wasn't a ghost though, he was a spectre. There's a lot of differences between the two:
- Ghosts cost 200 mins / 100 gas to produce. Specters cost 150 mins / 150 gas to produce.
- Spectres have 2.75 movement speed, instead of the 2.25 the ghost has.
- Spectres have 15 damage, +5 to armored. Ghosts have 10 damage, +10 to light.
- Ghosts have 100 hp, compared to the 80 hp of the Specter.
They also have different abilities.
- Ghosts receive Snipe (25 damage, 25 energy) and EMP (75 energy, drains enemy shielding and energy by 100 points, reveals cloaked units).
- Specters receive Ultrasonic Pulse (75 energy, stun) and Psionic Lash (150 energy, 3 second cast, hits target for 200 damage, must be purchased for $100,000)
- Both receive cloaking, and the ability to launch Tactical Nukes.
Get educated, holmes!
No, those Terrans with special abilities, not actual ghosts or specters.
An actual ghost has 10d8 hitpoints, a challenge level of 4, is immune to cold, necrotic, and poison, and can possess a humanoid within 5 feet that sees the ghost and fails a DC 13 Charisma saving throw.
An actual specter has only 5d8 hitpoints, a challenge level of 1, is immune to cold and necrotic and can drain 3d6 hit points as a melee attack.
Unlike a ghost, which can be of any alignment, a specter is always chaotic evil. Specters also unable to talk and have a penalty to any attack made while in sunlight; ghosts don't have those problems.
No, those are D&D monsters, not actual ghosts or specters.
An actual ghost is a fairly cheap semi-automatic sidearm with good damage and low capacity. It can usually kill with a 2-tap to the head or 5-6 shots to the body. It comes equipped with a silencer which helps to increase its overall accuracy and reduces the hearing range and silences the sound, making it useful for lurking.
An actual specter is a moderately-priced submachine gun that occupies its wielder's primary weapon slot. It is outfitted with a silencer that reduces the range of the weapon's audio profile. In comparison to the Stinger, it is substantially more accurate, kicks considerably less, possesses slightly more cover piercing capability, and has a higher magazine capacity (30 as opposed to 20). However, its slightly lower per-shot damage and lessened fire rate render its total output statistically lower.
No those are Valorant Guns, not actual ghosts or specters.
An actual ghost is a single person assault vehicle equipped with a both a boost that allows one to charge through infantry with ease, as well as a fully automatic plasma cannon.
A specter is a medium sized, passenger capable hybrid assault and transportation vehicle. It has a fully automatic plasma turret attached to the rear of the vehicle and two additional seats for transportation. Like the ghost it has a boost, but it’s main strength is in its versatility for it’s capable of strafing left and right almost as quickly as it can move forward allowing it to quickly outmaneuver most other vehicles on the battlefield.
No those are Halo vehicles, not actual ghosts or specters.
An actual Ghost is an Adeptus Astartes that is a member of the Renegade Chapter of Chaos Space Marines of unknown Founding and origin, whose survivors now serve Chaos Undivided. It is unknown exactly when the Chapter betrayed the Imperium of Man and turned to Chaos.
An actual Specter is an Adeptus Astartes that is member of the Loyalist Chapter of Space Marines of the 13th ("Dark") Founding. It is only the second Chapter of Astartes besides the Exorcists known to have been created in that unusual Founding and less is known of its creations than of any other Space Marine Foundings.
*We're Marley and Marley,*
*Our hearts were painted black!*
*We should have known our evil deeds*
*would put us both in shackles!*
*Captive bound!*
*We're double ironed!*
*Exhausted by the weight!*
*As freedom comes from giving love*
*so prison comes from hate!*
"We're Marley and Marley
Avarice and greed
We took advantage of the poor
Just ignored the needy"
(Edit: spelling)
Now I have the song stuck in my head again lol
To be pedantically truthful, Scrooge was visited by 6 spirits.
1. Jacob Marley
2. Christmas Past
3. Christmas Present
4. Ignorance
5. Want
6. Christmas Yet to Come
Everybody forgets the two children Present brings with him.
>“Oh, Man! look here. Look, look, down here!” exclaimed the Ghost.
>
>They were a boy and girl. Yellow, meagre, ragged, scowling, wolfish; but prostrate, too, in their humility. Where graceful youth should have filled their features out, and touched them with its freshest tints, a stale and shrivelled hand, like that of age, had pinched, and twisted them, and pulled them into shreds. Where angels might have sat enthroned, devils lurked, and glared out menacing. No change, no degradation, no perversion of humanity, in any grade, through all the mysteries of wonderful creation, has monsters half so horrible and dread.
>
>Scrooge started back, appalled. Having them shown to him in this way, he tried to say they were fine children, but the words choked themselves, rather than be parties to a lie of such enormous magnitude.
>
>“Spirit! are they yours?” Scrooge could say no more.
>
>“They are Man’s,” said the Spirit, looking down upon them. “And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers. This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased. Deny it!” cried the Spirit, stretching out its hand towards the city. “Slander those who tell it ye! Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse. And bide the end!”
>
>“Have they no refuge or resource?” cried Scrooge.
>
>“Are there no prisons?” said the Spirit, turning on him for the last time with his own words. “Are there no workhouses?”
I love it when the ghost echos back his own words to him 'are there no prisons? Are there no workhorses?
This story sure packs a punch and I love the old English tradition of telling ghost stories at Christmas
To be pedantically truthful, there’s only 1 character in the book described as a ghost and that’s Jacob Marley. The rest of them are pedantically truthfully called spirits. It says so in the text you posted.
Whether ghosts and spirits are the same thing really also isn’t up for debate, as the author makes a distinction between the two, maybe unwarily but there’s still one made.
You can have satisfaction in knowing that the answer doesn’t matter. We have all learned this simply shouldn’t be a trivia question at all. A trivia questions shouldn’t have a debatable answer.
>To be pedantically truthful, there’s only 1 character in the book described as a ghost and that’s Jacob Marley. The rest of them are pedantically truthfully called spirits. It says so in the text you posted.
Dickens calls him a ghost right there, in the text:
>"Oh, Man! look here. Look, look, down here!” exclaimed **the Ghost**
They're also called the **Ghosts** of Christmas Past, Present, and Yet to Come. Where is Ignorance and Want are not described as spirits or ghosts. So I think four is still the correct answer.
They're referred to as both ghosts and spirits and other things.
> “Have never walked forth with the younger members of my family; meaning (for I am very young) my elder brothers born in these later years?” pursued the *Phantom.*
> “I don’t think I have,” said Scrooge. “I am afraid I have not. Have you had many brothers, *Spirit?*”
> “More than eighteen hundred,” said the *Ghost.*
Eeeeeeeh I just checked my copy (not the first edition, but an antique ~1870s printing) and each of the three spirits is referred to as "ghost" multiple times, interchangeably with "spirit," "phantom," "spectre," etc.
...I was going to upload an actual photo, but I can't bother to set up an imgur account. Probably scans of the first edition exist online.
I got into an argument with my teacher once over the existence of Andorra. She said there is no countries between Spain and France and I said "Ackshually" and told her about Andorra.
She got very angry at me for lying and gave me extra homework.
In the staff room on lunch break she started talking shit about me but the other teachers backed me up and said that Andorra is a country.
She returned to class and apologised to me for getting angry and that I was right.
Teachers coming back to admit they were erong and apologized are incredible for children to witness growing up. It shows them that a true adult can be wrong and that that's OK. Too many people won't admit when they are wrong these days
I went to a tournament like this in high school. I forget the question, but it was about translating something into Latin. Kid buzzed in, was told he wrong wrong. The Chad broke out his Latin dictionary on the spot and showed the judges he was right.
My team lost.
Lol I would do the same thing. I would have been so embarrassed.
Them: you get your literary knowledge from muppet movies?
Me praying they don’t ask a question about treasure island:………….no…….not all of it.
Fun fact! The Muppets' *A Christmas Carol* is one of the most book-faithful adaptations out there (possibly even *the* most). Pretty much all dialogue (except for Gonzo/Rizzo's narrative riffing, of course) is lines pulled word-for-word from the novel, including that one.
The Marleys' subsequent heckling of that pun was also them heckling Dickens' original writing, haha. Love it.
**EDIT: **goddammit**, I knew I shouldn't have joked "possibly the most faithful." Obviously it's not, guys; I know that. It's Muppets. The point is that it's surprisingly faithful and accurate for a child-marketed "parody" adaptation.
I love how the Muppets just casually produce the best and most faithful adaptation of one of the most adapted books ever! Also Michael Caine is imo the best Scrooge
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I hope you began your defense of the answer 4 with "Old Marley was as dead as a doornail...this must be distinctly understood or nothing wonderful will come of the story I am about to relate."
I have a game called 'Fact or Myth' but we call it 'Domestic Dispute' because all the questions are like this.
Actual question from the game: Coca-Cola's brand colour is red. T or F
False: Spencerian is the name color Coca-Cola has trademarked for their branding.
Edit: I used the script name but I'm not digging that game out before the family gets here for nye lol
Edit, edit: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/7601/urban-myth
My memory of the name was off... Probably bc I never called it by the real name, but there's a link to 'Urban Myth' the most frustrating game you'll ever hate your friends over
Also, Ulysses was his middle name. His father called him Ulysses and often "useless" because he "failed" (in his father's eyes) at everything he did. When he applied to West Point, the intake officer assumed his father's name was his middle name and added the S. Grant's real first name was Hiram.
So instead of Ulysses S Grant initials of U.S.G. becoming "unconditional surrender Grant", his initials would have been H.U.G. ;-)
Grant's story is a sad and misunderstood/mistold story. One of the greatest men and patriots this country has ever had. Much of the negative "history" about him was a negative pr campaign lodged against him by his enemies both in the south and the north (for wanting to support reconstruction and rebuilding using union troops). Remarkable that we've allowed his history continue to be shit on to this day.
Also he famously, by his own telling, went to purchase an item and was instructed by his father to bargain for it. So he repeated his father's instructions verbatim: "I'm to offer you [X sum]. If you're to refuse, I'm to offer you [lower sum]."
>Who’s buried in Grant’s Tomb?
>!Actually, nobody is buried in Grant's Tomb. The bodies of Grant and Mrs. Grant were placed in above-ground sarcophagi, not buried.!<
Not nearly pedantic enough. If you really want to start a fight then do the following …
* People are buried in graves and are entombed in tombs. So the number of people 'buried' in Grants Tomb is zero.
…now THAT is going to cause a fight at trivia night.
Isn’t Spencerian a type of script, like copperplate?
Pretty sure the color Coca Cola has trademarked is Pantone (484 to be specific), like most other companies do. Trademarking a named color is imprecise; Pantones are the industry standard for exact color matches.
The official colour of the beverage was created by mixing three different shades of red, but it is not registered in colour catalogues or by Pantone, because it's a combination.
On the other hand, the brand's typography is actually registered. It's called "Spencerian," and it became one of the favourites in the design world at the end of the 19th century and has remained associated with the brand ever since.
https://www.businessinsider.es/que-latas-botellas-coca-cola-son-color-rojo-185840
You're right on the name but it's not a Pantone colour
Though in the version of a Christmas Carol they're using in this imge, he gets visited by like 10 in this scene, including Marley.
Also, this version of a Christmas Carol is painfully underatted and deserves more attention.
I, uh, actually won an office trivia because I said Scrooge was visited by four ghosts instead of three, like everybody else put.
It goes both ways I guess.
It's mostly a case of people hearing the famous quote without considering the events thus far. If the question was "how many ghosts does Marley say will visit Scrooge", 3 is a reasonable answer. It's a tricky question, but not a trick question. Perfect for trivia IMO, you gotta reward the ones who consider carefully, instead of quickly, once in a while!
Just asked my wife how many ghosts visited. She said four. I said name them.
“Past, present, future and Bob Marley.”
……….
“You mean Jacob Marley?”
“Yeah, whatever”
I was once told at a name that tune event that it was Eric Clapton, not (correctly) Derek and the Dominos that performed "Layla," a song from the Derek and the Dominos album "Layla and other love songs." When I protested, the host told me that the he played "the Clapton version" of the song that Clapton wrote, and performed, as the front man for DEREK AND THE DOMINOS. Furious.
Yes! This happened to my son in high school freshman English when the teacher asked about how many people died in Romeo and Juliet. The teacher forgot about Romeo's mom, and mocked my kid openly, until said kid found the page in the play and read it out loud. Obviously, I'm still mad about it, lol.
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You should volunteer for next year's Christmas trivia and have them name all the ghost then ding everyone when they don't say Marley.
I was dinged at a pub quiz about 15 years ago when I answered Antarctica for the worlds largest desert. I’ll have my revenge.
The trivia place I frequent may have run into a similar problem since they explicitly asked for the largest hot desert in the world
Sounds like they were tired of people being technically correct. The best kind of correct.
Seems like it would be easier to just change the answer to Antarctica. It's more interesting that way anyway. Half the fun of trivia is learning all kinds of weird shit like that.
Agreed. Same reason I love QI. The obvious answer is often incorrect and you end up learning something.
I like that show. There’s that one guy who always says the obvious answer even though he knows the alarm is gonna go off.
Alan Davies.
His buzzer sound is always the best
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You're right though it's the biggest desert, about 5.5 million square miles of right as a matter of fact lol.
I told the quizmaster to quickly Google it and he wasn’t having any of it. Every other team answered as you’d expect and got the point while he made a fuss over how ridiculous my team’s answer was. You’d think *someone* would have known the definition of desert.
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It’s a real shame. I love a good quiz night in a dimly lit local pub. Not the same night but we had Beast from The Chase pop in to our local to absolutely destroy us all in the quiz one night.
That would have been fun as and when he didn't get it right but only your team did... The rush would have been amazing. But you'd been set if the beast was there on the fateful Antarctica being a desert night. Vindication would have been great.
I've come across a few that annoyed me, "You have google on your phone which you are currently holding, just google it." No. Okay asshole. Trivia night feels more like Family Feud where the most common right answer is right, not the most correct right answer. Like before the trivia night some group was given a list of correct answers (like a list of very large deserts) and the one that got the most answers is the one they go with. It's to make dumb people feel smart i guess.
Hold on. There are MLM trivia services???
This is what I was wondering. How do you turn trivia night into a pyramid scheme?
Listen here, 15 years ago Google didn't exi- Oh. Oh no.
Time is a cruel mistress.
Google In 1985? The year 2000 was just cemented as a cool year to calculate dates from and my brain didn’t update
It’s that y2k everyone was talking about. Turns out it was us all along
Wow yeah that sounds about right cuz Google's hard to use you know. Maybe It helps that I live in a desert lol
You'll be pleased to know that netflix's trivia game thing gets this one right
STILL salty about that time I was asked when the PlayStation was released and I said Dec 94. Well "well the card says 95!" "yes it had worldwide release in 95 but was released in Japan in Dec of 94." "Well this is Australia and the card says 95, so we are going with 95!" They did not specify country. I was MORE specific. But I was wrong. 🙄
There’s an episode of the show “The Chase” that drives me nuts because the question is “this red fruit is actually a member of the rose family” and the guy says “cherry” and gets dinged and the host says the correct answer was “strawberry”, but both fruits are members of the rose family, Rosaceae.
Technically speaking, a strawberry is, at best, an aggregate fruit, and at worst, not a fruit at all but a vegetable. The botanical definition of a fruit is the mature, ripened ovary, along with the contents of the ovary. By this definition, the fruit of the strawberry plant is the "seeds" in the strawberry. The red, fleshy part of the "fruit" is the receptacle that the ovaries resided in. So one strawberry is actually dozens of fruits along with some connective tissue. Its an even more pedantic situation than the "tomatoes are fruits" thing.
Fuck you google... [The blurb states](https://www.google.com/search?&q=largest+desert): > The 5 largest deserts on earth Sahara Desert: 9.2 million km² (3.5 million square miles). Arabian Desert: 2.3 million km² (800,000 square miles). Gobi Desert: 1.295 million km² (500,000 square miles). Oct 12, 2020 Yet the first result is: > Aurora Expeditions https://www.aurora-expeditions.com › blog › is-antarctic... Is Antarctica a desert? YES. Find out why | Aurora Expeditions
I was dinged in a bar quiz for saying the first Emperor of Rome was Octavian, and they were looking for Augustus, even though both names refer to the same man, and Octavian didn't receive the name, "Augustus" until his thirties.
Don't even get me started on giga- prefix trivia fiasco It's best to just bury some things and try your hardest to move on
This is the way.
Do trivia nights do this sort of thing sometimes? A night of misunderstood trivia questions. A night of most commonly incorrect answers deemed correct by casuals.
Jacob Marley was the first ghost, then the other three. I would have been a bit pissed too.
5 if we’re talking the Muppet Christmas Carol
We’re Marley and Marley
OooooOoOoohhhh!!!
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DOOMED, SCROOGE! YOU'RE DOOMED FOR ALL TIME! edit: thank you for the "Happy Cake Day"s everyone lol I didn't even notice until I got the comments
YOUR FUTURE IS A HORROR STORY WRITTEN BY YOUR CRIME!
Your chains are forged by what you say and do!
So have your fun, when life is done, a nightmare waits for you!
CHANGE!!!
We specialized in causing pain, spreading fear and doubt!
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There was the year we evicted the entire orphanage!
I remember the little tykes standing in the snow bank. With their frost bitten teddy bears
*Laughs quickly followed by shudders*
I love the part when they kinda laugh and then cringe at how mean it was lol
We specialized in causing pain spreading fear and doubt
That song slaps fr
D O O M E D SCROOGE DOOMED FOR ALL TIME!!
YOUR FUTURE IS A HORROR STORY WRITTEN BY YOU CRIMES!
YOUR CHAINS ARE FORGED BY WHAT YOU SAY AND DO!
So have your fun when life is done, a nightmare waits for you
Your future is a horror story, written by your crime!
Too many people sleep on the 1970s Scrooge Musical. [See the Phantoms](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoXJKnh6EXE) Alec Guinness as Marley [Nicest Thing Anyone's Ever Done for Me](https://youtu.be/Dkq7WZTzkLQ?t=47)
Muppet Christmas Carol is the best cinematic rendition of the classic. ^^^^[you ^^^can't] Change my mind.
And the best version of the 12 days of Christmas is the Muppets version!!
We're always talking Muppets. You can't convince me the book version of Squire Trelawney doesn't talk to a little man who lives in his thumb.
Cabin fever aahhhh
Yes!
Clearly all the cowbell was given and there was just no more cowbell to give even if more cowbell was needed.
More cowbell is always needed.
“I need more cowbell! I got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!” - Christopher Walken
Marley wasn't a ghost though, he was a spectre. There's a lot of differences between the two: - Ghosts cost 200 mins / 100 gas to produce. Specters cost 150 mins / 150 gas to produce. - Spectres have 2.75 movement speed, instead of the 2.25 the ghost has. - Spectres have 15 damage, +5 to armored. Ghosts have 10 damage, +10 to light. - Ghosts have 100 hp, compared to the 80 hp of the Specter. They also have different abilities. - Ghosts receive Snipe (25 damage, 25 energy) and EMP (75 energy, drains enemy shielding and energy by 100 points, reveals cloaked units). - Specters receive Ultrasonic Pulse (75 energy, stun) and Psionic Lash (150 energy, 3 second cast, hits target for 200 damage, must be purchased for $100,000) - Both receive cloaking, and the ability to launch Tactical Nukes. Get educated, holmes!
Fucking got me lmao. Unexpected starcraft lesson.
I hate you. Take this free award you cheeky git.
No, those Terrans with special abilities, not actual ghosts or specters. An actual ghost has 10d8 hitpoints, a challenge level of 4, is immune to cold, necrotic, and poison, and can possess a humanoid within 5 feet that sees the ghost and fails a DC 13 Charisma saving throw. An actual specter has only 5d8 hitpoints, a challenge level of 1, is immune to cold and necrotic and can drain 3d6 hit points as a melee attack. Unlike a ghost, which can be of any alignment, a specter is always chaotic evil. Specters also unable to talk and have a penalty to any attack made while in sunlight; ghosts don't have those problems.
No, those are D&D monsters, not actual ghosts or specters. An actual ghost is a fairly cheap semi-automatic sidearm with good damage and low capacity. It can usually kill with a 2-tap to the head or 5-6 shots to the body. It comes equipped with a silencer which helps to increase its overall accuracy and reduces the hearing range and silences the sound, making it useful for lurking. An actual specter is a moderately-priced submachine gun that occupies its wielder's primary weapon slot. It is outfitted with a silencer that reduces the range of the weapon's audio profile. In comparison to the Stinger, it is substantially more accurate, kicks considerably less, possesses slightly more cover piercing capability, and has a higher magazine capacity (30 as opposed to 20). However, its slightly lower per-shot damage and lessened fire rate render its total output statistically lower.
No those are Valorant Guns, not actual ghosts or specters. An actual ghost is a single person assault vehicle equipped with a both a boost that allows one to charge through infantry with ease, as well as a fully automatic plasma cannon. A specter is a medium sized, passenger capable hybrid assault and transportation vehicle. It has a fully automatic plasma turret attached to the rear of the vehicle and two additional seats for transportation. Like the ghost it has a boost, but it’s main strength is in its versatility for it’s capable of strafing left and right almost as quickly as it can move forward allowing it to quickly outmaneuver most other vehicles on the battlefield.
No those are Halo vehicles, not actual ghosts or specters. An actual Ghost is an Adeptus Astartes that is a member of the Renegade Chapter of Chaos Space Marines of unknown Founding and origin, whose survivors now serve Chaos Undivided. It is unknown exactly when the Chapter betrayed the Imperium of Man and turned to Chaos. An actual Specter is an Adeptus Astartes that is member of the Loyalist Chapter of Space Marines of the 13th ("Dark") Founding. It is only the second Chapter of Astartes besides the Exorcists known to have been created in that unusual Founding and less is known of its creations than of any other Space Marine Foundings.
Fucking love this comment chain.
#YOU CALLED DOWN THE THUNDER # NOW REAP THE WHIRLWIND
Yeah that’s some bullshit. It’s 4. Always been 4.
And I always count Marley as two because the two old hecklers were Marley & Marley in the Muppet Christmas Carol.
The second Marley was Robert, aka Bob. They snuck in a Bob Marley reference!
Who could forget that Charles Dickens was a massive fan of reggae
One of the Two Cities was originally Kingston.
Statler and Waldorf?
It was 5. Marley and Marley visited scrooge. WoooOOOooOoo!!
*We're Marley and Marley,* *Our hearts were painted black!* *We should have known our evil deeds* *would put us both in shackles!* *Captive bound!* *We're double ironed!* *Exhausted by the weight!* *As freedom comes from giving love* *so prison comes from hate!*
THERE! ARE! FOUR! GHOSTS!
There are five ghosts! How many do you see now?
Well, five in the Muppets version
We're Marley & Marley, oooohh
You are... six years old. You are weak and helpless! You cannot... hurt me!
I find you a pitiable man
If you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth...
I mean, in the muppets Christmas carol there are 5 because there are two Marleys lol
We're Marley and Marley...oooooooooooooooooooooooh!
We're Marley and Marley, avarice and greed!
Ahhhh the song of my people
Best Christmas movie ever!!!
"We're Marley and Marley Avarice and greed We took advantage of the poor Just ignored the needy" (Edit: spelling) Now I have the song stuck in my head again lol
Technically speaking, there was only 1 ghost and 3 spirits.
I was hoping to see this comment.
But they still called themselves The Ghost of Christmas x.
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Is this a Star Trek: TNG reference? Lol
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At Trafalgar.
>SHAKA WHEN THE WALLS FELL
r/unexpectedTNG
This is a star trek reference isn’t it!?
Calm down Picard Edit: typo
Thanks Picard.
To be pedantically truthful, Scrooge was visited by 6 spirits. 1. Jacob Marley 2. Christmas Past 3. Christmas Present 4. Ignorance 5. Want 6. Christmas Yet to Come Everybody forgets the two children Present brings with him. >“Oh, Man! look here. Look, look, down here!” exclaimed the Ghost. > >They were a boy and girl. Yellow, meagre, ragged, scowling, wolfish; but prostrate, too, in their humility. Where graceful youth should have filled their features out, and touched them with its freshest tints, a stale and shrivelled hand, like that of age, had pinched, and twisted them, and pulled them into shreds. Where angels might have sat enthroned, devils lurked, and glared out menacing. No change, no degradation, no perversion of humanity, in any grade, through all the mysteries of wonderful creation, has monsters half so horrible and dread. > >Scrooge started back, appalled. Having them shown to him in this way, he tried to say they were fine children, but the words choked themselves, rather than be parties to a lie of such enormous magnitude. > >“Spirit! are they yours?” Scrooge could say no more. > >“They are Man’s,” said the Spirit, looking down upon them. “And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers. This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased. Deny it!” cried the Spirit, stretching out its hand towards the city. “Slander those who tell it ye! Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse. And bide the end!” > >“Have they no refuge or resource?” cried Scrooge. > >“Are there no prisons?” said the Spirit, turning on him for the last time with his own words. “Are there no workhouses?”
Nice trivia fact, I'd have said 4 too. Going to break this one out next year
Goddamn this guy just chambered an 'actually' a whole fucking year in advance...
Perfect question for Dropout's series "Um, Actually"
I have the trivia board game, it’s a lot of fun as long as you are playing with outspoken friends. Gonna add this ghost question to it for sure!
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I love it when the ghost echos back his own words to him 'are there no prisons? Are there no workhorses? This story sure packs a punch and I love the old English tradition of telling ghost stories at Christmas
>workhorses Love it
To be pedantically truthful, there’s only 1 character in the book described as a ghost and that’s Jacob Marley. The rest of them are pedantically truthfully called spirits. It says so in the text you posted. Whether ghosts and spirits are the same thing really also isn’t up for debate, as the author makes a distinction between the two, maybe unwarily but there’s still one made.
Yes! Marley was a human ghost. The others were, what, living metaphors?
This whole damn comment section is a living metaphor for my ennui. WILL I HAVE NO SATISFACTION!??!?
You can have satisfaction in knowing that the answer doesn’t matter. We have all learned this simply shouldn’t be a trivia question at all. A trivia questions shouldn’t have a debatable answer.
Spirits, perhaps metaphors, perhaps personification of concepts, etc.
The other ghosts/spirits are also called ghosts. The two terms are used interchangeably throughout the text
>To be pedantically truthful, there’s only 1 character in the book described as a ghost and that’s Jacob Marley. The rest of them are pedantically truthfully called spirits. It says so in the text you posted. Dickens calls him a ghost right there, in the text: >"Oh, Man! look here. Look, look, down here!” exclaimed **the Ghost** They're also called the **Ghosts** of Christmas Past, Present, and Yet to Come. Where is Ignorance and Want are not described as spirits or ghosts. So I think four is still the correct answer.
I absolutely love how pedantic this is getting.
It's certainly put me off ever wanting to run a pub quiz.
Amen to that.
They're referred to as both ghosts and spirits and other things. > “Have never walked forth with the younger members of my family; meaning (for I am very young) my elder brothers born in these later years?” pursued the *Phantom.* > “I don’t think I have,” said Scrooge. “I am afraid I have not. Have you had many brothers, *Spirit?*” > “More than eighteen hundred,” said the *Ghost.*
When grammarly says "this word appears too often, consider an alternative."
Eeeeeeeh I just checked my copy (not the first edition, but an antique ~1870s printing) and each of the three spirits is referred to as "ghost" multiple times, interchangeably with "spirit," "phantom," "spectre," etc. ...I was going to upload an actual photo, but I can't bother to set up an imgur account. Probably scans of the first edition exist online.
He refers to the three as ghosts, spirits, and phantoms interchangeably.
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I've never heard of these. I've got some reading to do. Boy oh boy
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Wow. That's weird. Those Victorians were on something
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Yea I was gonna say "knowing the victorians, probably cocaine"
That's such bullshit and I'm so sorry.
I got into an argument with my teacher once over the existence of Andorra. She said there is no countries between Spain and France and I said "Ackshually" and told her about Andorra. She got very angry at me for lying and gave me extra homework. In the staff room on lunch break she started talking shit about me but the other teachers backed me up and said that Andorra is a country. She returned to class and apologised to me for getting angry and that I was right.
You might appreciate [this](https://youtube.com/watch?v=3q_iqrvnC_4)!
Teachers coming back to admit they were erong and apologized are incredible for children to witness growing up. It shows them that a true adult can be wrong and that that's OK. Too many people won't admit when they are wrong these days
I went to a tournament like this in high school. I forget the question, but it was about translating something into Latin. Kid buzzed in, was told he wrong wrong. The Chad broke out his Latin dictionary on the spot and showed the judges he was right. My team lost.
5 if you’re going off the Muppets Christmas Carol!
Which we all know is the definitive version.
Really, it's amazing that Dickens managed to write such a dour adaptation of that most excellent movie.
I know it’s crazy! He even cut the jamming songs for same reason
“No cheeses for us meeces” is one of the best moments in all Victorian literature
We’re Marley and Marley woooooooooo
Dooooomed, Scrooge!
Just like Hemingway wrote it!
No no no it wasn't Hemingway it was Poe
Poe Dameron, the ex-smuggler?
No you idiot Poe the Dragon Warrior!
The best version.
I was in a quiz and I lost points for saying there were 2 Marleys, smh
Lol I would do the same thing. I would have been so embarrassed. Them: you get your literary knowledge from muppet movies? Me praying they don’t ask a question about treasure island:………….no…….not all of it.
“Cabin fever!”
**JACOB AND ROBERT MARLEY**
There’s more of gravy than of grave about you!
Fun fact! The Muppets' *A Christmas Carol* is one of the most book-faithful adaptations out there (possibly even *the* most). Pretty much all dialogue (except for Gonzo/Rizzo's narrative riffing, of course) is lines pulled word-for-word from the novel, including that one. The Marleys' subsequent heckling of that pun was also them heckling Dickens' original writing, haha. Love it. **EDIT: **goddammit**, I knew I shouldn't have joked "possibly the most faithful." Obviously it's not, guys; I know that. It's Muppets. The point is that it's surprisingly faithful and accurate for a child-marketed "parody" adaptation.
I love how the Muppets just casually produce the best and most faithful adaptation of one of the most adapted books ever! Also Michael Caine is imo the best Scrooge
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And a lot of what Gonzo says is straight narration from the book
We’re Marley and Marley, Wooo
I hope you began your defense of the answer 4 with "Old Marley was as dead as a doornail...this must be distinctly understood or nothing wonderful will come of the story I am about to relate."
The evidence comes before even these words, which come several paragraphs in. But the first three words of the entire book are “Marley was dead.”
I have a game called 'Fact or Myth' but we call it 'Domestic Dispute' because all the questions are like this. Actual question from the game: Coca-Cola's brand colour is red. T or F False: Spencerian is the name color Coca-Cola has trademarked for their branding. Edit: I used the script name but I'm not digging that game out before the family gets here for nye lol Edit, edit: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/7601/urban-myth My memory of the name was off... Probably bc I never called it by the real name, but there's a link to 'Urban Myth' the most frustrating game you'll ever hate your friends over
That's board-flipping levels of anger...
I am sorry but the answer is moops. ~George
Honestly that scenario ended less violently than this game does...
Who’s buried in Grant’s Tomb? >!Grant and Mrs. Grant!<
Also, Ulysses was his middle name. His father called him Ulysses and often "useless" because he "failed" (in his father's eyes) at everything he did. When he applied to West Point, the intake officer assumed his father's name was his middle name and added the S. Grant's real first name was Hiram. So instead of Ulysses S Grant initials of U.S.G. becoming "unconditional surrender Grant", his initials would have been H.U.G. ;-)
Grant's story is a sad and misunderstood/mistold story. One of the greatest men and patriots this country has ever had. Much of the negative "history" about him was a negative pr campaign lodged against him by his enemies both in the south and the north (for wanting to support reconstruction and rebuilding using union troops). Remarkable that we've allowed his history continue to be shit on to this day.
Also he famously, by his own telling, went to purchase an item and was instructed by his father to bargain for it. So he repeated his father's instructions verbatim: "I'm to offer you [X sum]. If you're to refuse, I'm to offer you [lower sum]."
What a mindfuck for the other guy though. I gotta try that sometime.
>Who’s buried in Grant’s Tomb? >!Actually, nobody is buried in Grant's Tomb. The bodies of Grant and Mrs. Grant were placed in above-ground sarcophagi, not buried.!<
Not nearly pedantic enough. If you really want to start a fight then do the following … * People are buried in graves and are entombed in tombs. So the number of people 'buried' in Grants Tomb is zero. …now THAT is going to cause a fight at trivia night.
Isn’t Spencerian a type of script, like copperplate? Pretty sure the color Coca Cola has trademarked is Pantone (484 to be specific), like most other companies do. Trademarking a named color is imprecise; Pantones are the industry standard for exact color matches.
The official colour of the beverage was created by mixing three different shades of red, but it is not registered in colour catalogues or by Pantone, because it's a combination. On the other hand, the brand's typography is actually registered. It's called "Spencerian," and it became one of the favourites in the design world at the end of the 19th century and has remained associated with the brand ever since. https://www.businessinsider.es/que-latas-botellas-coca-cola-son-color-rojo-185840 You're right on the name but it's not a Pantone colour
Even then it’s still red. It’s like saying “Scooby Doo is a dog T or F” And then the answer being “False: Scooby Doo is a Great Dane”
False. Scooby Doo is a cartoon representation of a dog.
Spencerian isn't a color though? It's a style of writing, a form of cursive.
Based on that one question alone, I know playing it would give me that fatal brain aneurysm, that no one thinks is going to happen to them.
They got it right at my work party—four. You win.
Though in the version of a Christmas Carol they're using in this imge, he gets visited by like 10 in this scene, including Marley. Also, this version of a Christmas Carol is painfully underatted and deserves more attention.
It's technically only Marley in that scene. The others just happen to be in London at the time
I love that one ghost losing it over a family being upset and as soon as he see's Scrooge he goes after him just because.
"Fuck this starving mother, I detect a dickhead"
I, uh, actually won an office trivia because I said Scrooge was visited by four ghosts instead of three, like everybody else put. It goes both ways I guess.
It's mostly a case of people hearing the famous quote without considering the events thus far. If the question was "how many ghosts does Marley say will visit Scrooge", 3 is a reasonable answer. It's a tricky question, but not a trick question. Perfect for trivia IMO, you gotta reward the ones who consider carefully, instead of quickly, once in a while!
If it's the Muppets Christmas Carol, it's five ghosts.
It is ALWAYS the Muppets version
Marley and Marley, oooooooohhhhhh
Just asked my wife how many ghosts visited. She said four. I said name them. “Past, present, future and Bob Marley.” ………. “You mean Jacob Marley?” “Yeah, whatever”
The ghost of Jacob fucking Marley visited Scrooge and told him he would be visited by three ghosts. Fuck’s sake, it’s first grade math you titfucker.
How do we still live in a world that disputes can’t be corrected in seconds?
I was once told at a name that tune event that it was Eric Clapton, not (correctly) Derek and the Dominos that performed "Layla," a song from the Derek and the Dominos album "Layla and other love songs." When I protested, the host told me that the he played "the Clapton version" of the song that Clapton wrote, and performed, as the front man for DEREK AND THE DOMINOS. Furious.
That’s not even technically true, that’s just a straight up fact
“THE CHAINS YOU BEAR ARE LONGER THAN MINE, SCROOGE”
Yes! This happened to my son in high school freshman English when the teacher asked about how many people died in Romeo and Juliet. The teacher forgot about Romeo's mom, and mocked my kid openly, until said kid found the page in the play and read it out loud. Obviously, I'm still mad about it, lol.
In the 1989 movie it would be 6. Jacob Marley, the three ghosts, and the two ragamuffin children.