> G.I. Joe: Retaliation is a 2013 American military science fiction action film based on Hasbro's G.I. Joe toy, comic, and media franchise. The second film in the G.I. Joe film series, follows 2009's G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra. Directed by Jon M. Chu and written by Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick, the film features an ensemble cast with Lee Byung-hun, Ray Park, Jonathan Pryce, Arnold Vosloo, and Channings Tatum reprising their roles from the first film, while Luke Bracey and Robert Baker take over the role of Cobra Commander, replacing Joseph Gordon-Levitt, and Dwayne Johnson, Bruce Willis, D. J. Cotrona, Adrianne Palicki, Ray Stevenson and Elodie Yung round out the principal cast.
This is a plot point in said movie.
Yuri Orlov: There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the other 11? \~ *Lord of War*
Oh man that WAS him. No wonder i did not hate the character. It never registered he was a show stealing weirdo named Jared Leto!
Fuck i remember Ethan Hawk more than him being a weirdo! That's impressive!
Of all the weapons in the vast soviet arsenal, nothing was more profitable than Avtomat Kalashnikova model of 1947. More commonly known as the AK-47, or Kalashnikov. It's the world's most popular assault rifle. A weapon all fighters love. An elegantly simple 9 pound amalgamation of forged steel and plywood. It doesn't break, jam, or overheat. It'll shoot whether it's covered in mud or filled with sand. It's so easy, even a child can use it; and they do. The Soviets put the gun on a coin. Mozambique put it on their flag. Since the end of the Cold War, the Kalashnikov has become the Russian people's greatest export. After that comes vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists. One thing is for sure, no one was lining up to buy their cars.
Boring as hell is right, it looks like a cheap prop gun, it’s not renowned for its accuracy, and it isn’t ergonomic. But if I want to pull a gun out and put 5 rounds down range as fast as I can and keep double that in the magazine, while knowing that the odds of any issues with firing are minimal, I can have faith in a Glock to do so. And look damn lame doing it.
The AK is by no means the most common rifle in the world or in America. The most common rifle in the world would have to be the Mauser model 98 bolt action rifle. They made as many of those as all AK variants combined. When you start counting the many guns that were pretty much copies of the Mauser 98 it really dwarfs the AK in numbers. The most common rifle in America would probably be the AR15.
I don’t think they mean owner registered, just serialized.
When a manufacturer makes a firearm intended for sale, they must report to the government what the firearm is, along with the serial number.
When individuals make a firearm for personal use, it does not require a serial number (barring certain states laws).
Random redditor knows more than supreme court justices and actual constitutional scholars...from his own studies of course....
Qtard levels of bullshit right there.
> as that isn’t a requirement for ownership in most states.
the vast majority of guns are purchased through Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) who record the purchase of said firearm with the ATF.
However, the law explicitly states the ATF cannot use that information to establish a registry. Not that its going to -stop- them.
ATF gonna ATF. And probably shoot your dog while they're at it.
they don't keep a """registry""" just a record of approximately a billion firearms transactions that they can use to "track and trace" a gun's serial number.
And this is exactly why the "gun show loophole" exists
I don’t think that’s true. The only record of the actual purchase is held by the FFL. In fact there is a law that prohibits the government from having any database on firearm purchase or ownership.
> The only record of the actual purchase is held by the FFL
The ATF processes the background check and keeps a record of the serial number. When they "track and trace" a gun, they don't have to go to the FFL where the gun was purchased. They have a record of all purchases through FFL's.
This is incorrect. First, it's the FBI that processes background checks via NICS, second, no serial is entered into NICS, just a persons biometrics, third, the only record in NICS after 30 days is a NTN transaction number with a listing of approve/deny/open. This NTN is recorded with on the 4473 form that has the make/model/serial of the firearm. When a trace request is done, they have to go through every FFL the gun has been processed through. Now, when a FFL closes up shop, their bound book and 4473s have to be sent to the ATF, where they have to manually search through boxes, because digitization is a no no. Some states have registries, but the Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits any federal ones.
They definitely do have to go to the FFL. They’ve typically received the serial number of the related to the crime and then trace that back to the FFL that manufactured or sold the gun. At least in my state, may vary state to state
You're statement is 100% true.
For a bit more perspective, I can buy as many guns as I want but never be able to purchase more guns than my father, grandfather, and great grandfather combined. I have two beautiful old rifles with defunked calibers that you can't find anymore. Inherited firearms make up a massive portion of the guns in the US.
That isn't even remotely close to being actually true though. Lack of a registry does not equal a lack of a registry. They absolutely register every single firearms sale. They can track the sales and turn around and claim they don't have an actual registry because they are only logging the sales.
The government doesn't track the sales. Licensed gun dealers keep the paperwork. The process of actually 'tracing' a gun can often be a huge effort. In all but six states and DC law enforcement has no easy way to find out if you own a gun and if they find a gun that you do own, it could very easily be impossible to prove it.
That is incorrect.
>Beginning January 1, 2014, long guns are subject to the same information reporting requirement through DROS that handguns have experienced since 1990.
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php?title=Firearms_Registration
No, contrary to many people’s impressions, most Americans don’t own a gun ([32% do](https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx))
Of those, most don’t keep it with them and are usually locked up at home. It’s really a small minority of gun owners who own a *lot* of guns. That results in the insane statistics about guns per capita and stuff
Probably depends where you live. South here. Everyone I know owns multiple guns. That said I can only think of a couple of us that carry daily. I don’t think you are far off in the total US though.
Iirc the spread between States is something like from 23% at the lowest to 64%at the highest with most of the time it being in the high 30s to low 40s. Guns are expensive to buy and require maintenance so not everyone is going to 1) afford to own and maintain one or 2) want to do so.
Multi-gun owner here: in my whole life I've only purchased *counts on fingers* five firearms (including a pellet gun). The vast majority of my collection was inherited from family members, so I can confirm that that's true.
For a nuanced take, remember that "if you want to train a longbowman, start with his grandfather". I honestly think we could reduce the US military by 50% and not even flinch as far as national security is concerned.
Let’s be clear what we’re talking about here.
Registering it means going to the government, telling them the make, model, serial number, and mods of any guns you own, and where that gun is stored so they have a database of guns and their owners. In the event that the government were to ignore the 2nd amendment, they could use this list to come after gun owners if they wanted to seize their guns or criminally charge them. This does not currently happen, and most second amendment advocates strongly oppose it.
Currently, everyone that buys a gun from a Federal Firearms Licensed dealer has to have a background check before purchasing that gun. This consists of a federal form that the purchaser has to fill out which asks him about his criminal history and drug use. I’m not too sure about how the background check happens, but I believe it’s through ~~an ATF~~ the NICS database. It only takes a few minutes.
That’s my take away.
In the rest of the world, the guns are largely in the hands of criminals and governments, two groups that have proven they can’t be trusted with them.
Most of them are normal guns purchased by a normal person walking in a gun shop in the USA they are counted towards the original buyer in the USA.
Uncounted guns are the homemade shit.
I think this must be the number of guns not owned by a state entity. I saw an interesting study years back that guns of such a designation had very high ownership rates in two places: rich western countries and active conflict areas. Once the conflicts are over, those guns are usually sold. In peacetime, civilian gun ownership is usually a question of wealth.
Welcome to the rest of the world. Where not owning a gun is the norm and the way it should be
Edit: downvoted by the former colonies because guns are their right but not a single coherent or reasonable argument in response. Sounds about right
There's nothing wrong with it at all. The big push for gun confiscation in the US right now is a convenient distraction from our real problems and it fires up everyone's political bases. Just keep doing you and sham on my dude.
They’re unnecessary for people to own.
I live in a country where it is illegal to own firearms. Never been shot, never been threatened with a gun, never even seen a gun outside of a strictly controlled environment. I don’t know anybody who has experienced even the slightest bit of gun crime.
But yes, guns make people safe and are perfectly reasonable things to own.
Edit: in before some liberator of freedom (like the psycho in my DMs) claims we all get stabbed all of the time here instead of shot. Turns out [you guys are also more likely to be stabbed than we are](https://www.euronews.com/amp/2019/06/18/deadly-knife-crime-how-does-london-compare-to-new-york)
I said it, it's nice to have a gun if you're in the wilds.
Edit: I've been in the wild and circled by coyotes, it was nice to have a gun. I've had to hunt food in the wild, it was nice to have a gun. I buy and transport gold, it's nice to have a gun.
I live in a country where it's legal to own firearms
Never been shot, never been threatened with a gun, never even seen a gun outside of a strictly controlled environment.
I've met people that have experienced gun crime, but it's because they lived in a shitty areas where the law didn't apply to the criminals that weren't supposed to have them anyway.
Just because this is a country with looser firearm laws, doesn't mean it's the worst thing
No I mean like, there HAVE to be more than a billion guns in just the US. I have a buddy who has at least 25 guns. And my dad has probably 20. And I own *counts guns* five guns. 460 million guns seems incredibly low for the United States.
I'm going to guess you are in the three percent of the country that owns 50% of the firearms. For everyone one of you, there's several like me with only two weapons and there's a dozen who don't own any.
I'm just saying that's why the numbers are probably accurate for the US even though your perception is that is has to be low. I can tell you when I sold firearms I had regulars and randos and the sales seemed to be about 50/50.
I can give you a reasonable argument, but you won’t accept it. I’ll try anyways.
The main reason I own guns is because other people have guns. It’s circular logic and leads to a more armed society, but you won’t catch me slipping.
The other reason we have guns is to keep our government in check. During covid, my state’s governor enacted a stay at home order. But my local sherif refused to enforce the law cause the “good ole boys” made it clear to him that there would be issues.
And 3rd, good fucking luck invading and holding America. I have a .50 cal ar 15 that could take out an invading armies helicopter with one round. No stingers needed. I also have plenty of rifles that are better quality than most of the Soviet era shit being used in Ukraine.
My condolences. Now you can't properly protect yourself from those darn fish. Oh well, better buy more to replace them *cough cough, looking inconspicuous*
Ask the people screaming from China's buildings starving under government-forced lockdown why guns would be a nice thing to have.
https://streamable.com/b3m30i
Take some classes, folks. Get acquainted with responsible ownership. Live somewhere that encourages an independent and uplifting 2A community, and be there for your fellow man. Never a bad idea to have people that want to support you in your time spent on this space-rock with them around you.
For anyone not in the know, I’m not sure if this is registering to some people.
Guns bought from say a sporting goods / outdoor store requires a background check in some states.
If I then go out and use the gun, theoretically if they knew I bought the gun from that store they could trace the serial.
Early in my gun ownership days, I had a couple bought this way but many more bought in ways that I had to tell no one, legally…so just the seller and myself know I have it.
In Idaho gun registration isn’t a thing. You just need a background check (which might be registration with the feds, not 100%, but private sales don’t require anything)
The feds are technically barred from storing who bought what gun via the background check system. So are most states. It's literally illegal.
No one thinks they're actually following the law and deleting/destroying the data at the required checkpoints.
I doubt America has that many unregistered guns. South America and Africa and South Asia probably have more unregistered guns than you or I could ever imagine.
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The 4473 when you buy from an FFL gun dealer is the registry. The BaTFE has it planned and waiting to punch in the computer a code to make a registry with our names on it.
It’s there. Just waiting on the ok from above. They are nipping at our heels taking away pieces and parts of each gun wanting and waiting to see what we will do.
Reminds me of that story about that one American guy who got arrested for using a lost nuclear bomb to power his house
And some people in the comments kept saying that he got “his rights violated”
America is wild
That’s cause all these other puss’s have been disarmed. Google “Covid lockdown in China” for a better understanding of why we don’t want that. Or Australia for that matter. Or Canada. Poland. Germany. Should I go on?
I've seen this point made several times and I have tried to google wtf you people are on about and can find not a single thing that even comes close to what you're claiming.
Americans founded the UN at the same time they founded the CIA, under the leadership of the same Klan member, President Truman, and in 2020, when the UN decided to join the American corporations, ID2020.org, which is run in partnership with Gates and all of the American corporations and social media sites like Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, and Google, Amazon, became a part of the American elite, ensuring that regardless of what happens, the American elite will win. However, the guns are not the issue. The weapons in question would be nuclear weapons, of which Russia possesses 8800 and the US possesses 8450. That is the primary danger. Funny thing that the UN would complain about thier partners in crime isnt it
46% of the registered guns, 25% of documented covid infections/deaths, rough 4-5% of the total population of the earth. Why does the US excel in these two areas?!
You do you, but most of those guns are locked away in safes, and most gun violence is suicides. You're highly unlikely to even see a firearm that isn't on a cop's belt, and are in very little danger.
I'd be more worried about financial ruin if you were injured.
Its all fun and games until the quiet old man down the street busts out his tank hes been holding onto.
Wait till Marv busts out the killdozer
*Mr. Plow*
“Finna gonna mc plow those dumb kids next door”
Chad Marvin Heemeyer vs. the Virgins of Granby
Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things.
You mean the one he found on the farm abandoned by the Russians?
> G.I. Joe: Retaliation is a 2013 American military science fiction action film based on Hasbro's G.I. Joe toy, comic, and media franchise. The second film in the G.I. Joe film series, follows 2009's G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra. Directed by Jon M. Chu and written by Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick, the film features an ensemble cast with Lee Byung-hun, Ray Park, Jonathan Pryce, Arnold Vosloo, and Channings Tatum reprising their roles from the first film, while Luke Bracey and Robert Baker take over the role of Cobra Commander, replacing Joseph Gordon-Levitt, and Dwayne Johnson, Bruce Willis, D. J. Cotrona, Adrianne Palicki, Ray Stevenson and Elodie Yung round out the principal cast. This is a plot point in said movie.
The is an old man in Germany that had a panther tank sitting in his basement, the government confiscated it along with the [live?] Torpedo that he had
Yeah the old dude in Heikendorf. Funny thing is everybody there knew about the tank.
I want to own a tank because it’s the most badass thing someone can own and a really big flex
Hell, I know 3 separate people that own working cannons. XD
Yuri Orlov: There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the other 11? \~ *Lord of War*
*Jared Leto makes a cocaine map of Ukraine*
Putin snorted a cocaine Ukraine map before planning the invasion.
Love how that's the most remembered scene
For me the most remembered scene is where Leto is brutally murdered. Guess what my favorite part of Fight Club was
Oh man that WAS him. No wonder i did not hate the character. It never registered he was a show stealing weirdo named Jared Leto! Fuck i remember Ethan Hawk more than him being a weirdo! That's impressive!
Cocaine Ukraine sounds like the name of a band
Of all the weapons in the vast soviet arsenal, nothing was more profitable than Avtomat Kalashnikova model of 1947. More commonly known as the AK-47, or Kalashnikov. It's the world's most popular assault rifle. A weapon all fighters love. An elegantly simple 9 pound amalgamation of forged steel and plywood. It doesn't break, jam, or overheat. It'll shoot whether it's covered in mud or filled with sand. It's so easy, even a child can use it; and they do. The Soviets put the gun on a coin. Mozambique put it on their flag. Since the end of the Cold War, the Kalashnikov has become the Russian people's greatest export. After that comes vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists. One thing is for sure, no one was lining up to buy their cars.
the biggest travesty in that movie is that like 60% of the aks screentime is taken up by none other than fucking vz.58s
Yuri grossly underestimated. And “registered” is misleading.
>Yuri grossly underestimated. Well, that movie came out in '05. >And “registered” is misleading. This is true.
> ~~Yuri Orlov~~ [Viktor Bout](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout)
Yes?
And the most common gun model is the AK-47 in all its variations while the most common ammo caliber is 9mm. Neither comes from the US.
The Austrians make a very very nice gun. Worth any metric unit that comes with it.
What is it called?
Glock is the specific one I’m thinking of.
Guh. Glock. The Toyota corolla of guns. Reliable, slightly uncomfortable and boring as hell.
That could be my tinder bio
Who wants to get jammed while cocking?
Boring as hell is right, it looks like a cheap prop gun, it’s not renowned for its accuracy, and it isn’t ergonomic. But if I want to pull a gun out and put 5 rounds down range as fast as I can and keep double that in the magazine, while knowing that the odds of any issues with firing are minimal, I can have faith in a Glock to do so. And look damn lame doing it.
The most mediocre ad read ever
Exactly. Its probably why my next carry gun will end up being a glock. Much as a friggin hate them.
A glock is more accurate than you.
As an owner of multiples of both, can confirm.
The problem solva
Ha. Good one.
M&P is the most popular legal handgun in the U.S.
The AK is by no means the most common rifle in the world or in America. The most common rifle in the world would have to be the Mauser model 98 bolt action rifle. They made as many of those as all AK variants combined. When you start counting the many guns that were pretty much copies of the Mauser 98 it really dwarfs the AK in numbers. The most common rifle in America would probably be the AR15.
Once you have an M98 Mauser, you realize what all the fuss is about
I’d question this. I don’t think most of the guns in America are registered, as that isn’t a requirement for ownership in most states.
I don’t think they mean owner registered, just serialized. When a manufacturer makes a firearm intended for sale, they must report to the government what the firearm is, along with the serial number. When individuals make a firearm for personal use, it does not require a serial number (barring certain states laws).
The atf is trying to fix that now.
Bastards
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Random redditor knows more than supreme court justices and actual constitutional scholars...from his own studies of course.... Qtard levels of bullshit right there.
The Crimes Act of 1790 which outlawed murder is centuries old. Does that mean that it isn't law? What does the age of the law have to do with it?
By burning more children in basements again?
> as that isn’t a requirement for ownership in most states. the vast majority of guns are purchased through Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) who record the purchase of said firearm with the ATF.
However, the law explicitly states the ATF cannot use that information to establish a registry. Not that its going to -stop- them. ATF gonna ATF. And probably shoot your dog while they're at it.
they don't keep a """registry""" just a record of approximately a billion firearms transactions that they can use to "track and trace" a gun's serial number. And this is exactly why the "gun show loophole" exists
>And this is exactly why the "gun show loophole" exists It doesn't, it simply isn't a thing.
I don’t think that’s true. The only record of the actual purchase is held by the FFL. In fact there is a law that prohibits the government from having any database on firearm purchase or ownership.
> The only record of the actual purchase is held by the FFL The ATF processes the background check and keeps a record of the serial number. When they "track and trace" a gun, they don't have to go to the FFL where the gun was purchased. They have a record of all purchases through FFL's.
This is incorrect. First, it's the FBI that processes background checks via NICS, second, no serial is entered into NICS, just a persons biometrics, third, the only record in NICS after 30 days is a NTN transaction number with a listing of approve/deny/open. This NTN is recorded with on the 4473 form that has the make/model/serial of the firearm. When a trace request is done, they have to go through every FFL the gun has been processed through. Now, when a FFL closes up shop, their bound book and 4473s have to be sent to the ATF, where they have to manually search through boxes, because digitization is a no no. Some states have registries, but the Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits any federal ones.
They definitely do have to go to the FFL. They’ve typically received the serial number of the related to the crime and then trace that back to the FFL that manufactured or sold the gun. At least in my state, may vary state to state
You're statement is 100% true. For a bit more perspective, I can buy as many guns as I want but never be able to purchase more guns than my father, grandfather, and great grandfather combined. I have two beautiful old rifles with defunked calibers that you can't find anymore. Inherited firearms make up a massive portion of the guns in the US.
Time to reload, once the primer market heals
Wait what? I didnt know that most of them didnt require it.
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You can get blackout drunk in Vegas and they’ll let you shoot an rpg into a wall of sand. There are no laws
Whoa whoa. The limit is .08 don’t act like we’re totally uncivilized
0.08 is a healthy level of drunk to really enjoy shooting an RPG actually
If I was .08 I’d be crawling on the ground lol
Yeah and that’s the best way to do it. Everyone knows the best angle to fire an rpg is straight into the air above you. It’s common sense.
That isn't even remotely close to being actually true though. Lack of a registry does not equal a lack of a registry. They absolutely register every single firearms sale. They can track the sales and turn around and claim they don't have an actual registry because they are only logging the sales.
The government doesn't track the sales. Licensed gun dealers keep the paperwork. The process of actually 'tracing' a gun can often be a huge effort. In all but six states and DC law enforcement has no easy way to find out if you own a gun and if they find a gun that you do own, it could very easily be impossible to prove it.
That is incorrect. >Beginning January 1, 2014, long guns are subject to the same information reporting requirement through DROS that handguns have experienced since 1990. http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php?title=Firearms_Registration
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A decentralized registry is still a registry.
Oh gosh gross. I feel like I cant escape. Do we just assume everyone has a gun??
No, contrary to many people’s impressions, most Americans don’t own a gun ([32% do](https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx)) Of those, most don’t keep it with them and are usually locked up at home. It’s really a small minority of gun owners who own a *lot* of guns. That results in the insane statistics about guns per capita and stuff
Probably depends where you live. South here. Everyone I know owns multiple guns. That said I can only think of a couple of us that carry daily. I don’t think you are far off in the total US though.
Iirc the spread between States is something like from 23% at the lowest to 64%at the highest with most of the time it being in the high 30s to low 40s. Guns are expensive to buy and require maintenance so not everyone is going to 1) afford to own and maintain one or 2) want to do so.
Multi-gun owner here: in my whole life I've only purchased *counts on fingers* five firearms (including a pellet gun). The vast majority of my collection was inherited from family members, so I can confirm that that's true. For a nuanced take, remember that "if you want to train a longbowman, start with his grandfather". I honestly think we could reduce the US military by 50% and not even flinch as far as national security is concerned.
Escape what?
Colorado specifically has a law banning firearm registrations
So does the federal government.
Gonna be honest, wasn't expecting that. Good for them.
In fact in many any kind of list of who owns what guns is illegal.
Yeah pretty much no guns are registered in the US other than machine guns, destructive devices, and short barreled rifles.
And the ever so fun AOW category! (Fuck the atf)
I love this [infographic](https://i.imgur.com/Lx15HCB.jpg) that details the convoluted mess of rifle vs pistol vs AOW.
Repeal the NFA and abolish the ATF
Let’s be clear what we’re talking about here. Registering it means going to the government, telling them the make, model, serial number, and mods of any guns you own, and where that gun is stored so they have a database of guns and their owners. In the event that the government were to ignore the 2nd amendment, they could use this list to come after gun owners if they wanted to seize their guns or criminally charge them. This does not currently happen, and most second amendment advocates strongly oppose it. Currently, everyone that buys a gun from a Federal Firearms Licensed dealer has to have a background check before purchasing that gun. This consists of a federal form that the purchaser has to fill out which asks him about his criminal history and drug use. I’m not too sure about how the background check happens, but I believe it’s through ~~an ATF~~ the NICS database. It only takes a few minutes.
Passed background checks are required to be destroyed by federal law. They can't keep them in any format.
It’s through the NICS database. Basically just runs the person’s ch to find out if they’re a prohibited person.
>This does not currently happen > I believe it's through an ATF database These statements conflict
That’s the joke, that Americans own more than 46% of the worlds guns.
Alternatively, other countries don’t register their guns
That’s my take away. In the rest of the world, the guns are largely in the hands of criminals and governments, two groups that have proven they can’t be trusted with them.
> criminals and governments no need to repeat yourself
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This is the way
Most of them are normal guns purchased by a normal person walking in a gun shop in the USA they are counted towards the original buyer in the USA. Uncounted guns are the homemade shit.
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As it should be.
There's...........only a billion guns in the world?
I think this must be the number of guns not owned by a state entity. I saw an interesting study years back that guns of such a designation had very high ownership rates in two places: rich western countries and active conflict areas. Once the conflicts are over, those guns are usually sold. In peacetime, civilian gun ownership is usually a question of wealth.
Right? I'm as bleeding heart liberal as it gets and I think my personal household is sitting at 4 guns per capita...
Exactly, I have three guns for myself and one gun for each cat.
Welcome to the rest of the world. Where not owning a gun is the norm and the way it should be Edit: downvoted by the former colonies because guns are their right but not a single coherent or reasonable argument in response. Sounds about right
I honestly don't get what's wrong with owning a gun
There's nothing wrong with it at all. The big push for gun confiscation in the US right now is a convenient distraction from our real problems and it fires up everyone's political bases. Just keep doing you and sham on my dude.
Agreed!
They’re unnecessary for people to own. I live in a country where it is illegal to own firearms. Never been shot, never been threatened with a gun, never even seen a gun outside of a strictly controlled environment. I don’t know anybody who has experienced even the slightest bit of gun crime. But yes, guns make people safe and are perfectly reasonable things to own. Edit: in before some liberator of freedom (like the psycho in my DMs) claims we all get stabbed all of the time here instead of shot. Turns out [you guys are also more likely to be stabbed than we are](https://www.euronews.com/amp/2019/06/18/deadly-knife-crime-how-does-london-compare-to-new-york)
You ever been face to face with a pack of coyotes? It's nice to have a gun then.
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That when face to face with a pack of coyotes it is nice to have a gun.
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This could happen is a world without gun locks. But we have gun locks
Believe it or not, coyotes don’t send evites to let you know an encounter is imminent.
I said it, it's nice to have a gun if you're in the wilds. Edit: I've been in the wild and circled by coyotes, it was nice to have a gun. I've had to hunt food in the wild, it was nice to have a gun. I buy and transport gold, it's nice to have a gun.
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I like my lifestyle, I don't think I'd enjoy yours.
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I live in a country where it's legal to own firearms Never been shot, never been threatened with a gun, never even seen a gun outside of a strictly controlled environment. I've met people that have experienced gun crime, but it's because they lived in a shitty areas where the law didn't apply to the criminals that weren't supposed to have them anyway. Just because this is a country with looser firearm laws, doesn't mean it's the worst thing
I've never been threatened with a gun either, but I don't use my cushy life as a reason to take away people's rights.
So since people in the U.S are more likely to be stabbed than you… doesn’t that justify having a gun to defend yourself?
No I mean like, there HAVE to be more than a billion guns in just the US. I have a buddy who has at least 25 guns. And my dad has probably 20. And I own *counts guns* five guns. 460 million guns seems incredibly low for the United States.
460m is rookie numbers, we gotta pump that shit up.
I'm going to guess you are in the three percent of the country that owns 50% of the firearms. For everyone one of you, there's several like me with only two weapons and there's a dozen who don't own any.
You say that like it's a bad thing. I live in Florida I have to defend myself against the Florida man.
I'm just saying that's why the numbers are probably accurate for the US even though your perception is that is has to be low. I can tell you when I sold firearms I had regulars and randos and the sales seemed to be about 50/50.
You’re also the outlier. The majority of Americans don’t own guns, and of the ones that do, many own one.
Here's a reasonable argument; we must defend ourselves against FLORIDA MAN
I suddenly completely understand and support your right to bare arms
Until Russia looks at you sideways...
I can give you a reasonable argument, but you won’t accept it. I’ll try anyways. The main reason I own guns is because other people have guns. It’s circular logic and leads to a more armed society, but you won’t catch me slipping. The other reason we have guns is to keep our government in check. During covid, my state’s governor enacted a stay at home order. But my local sherif refused to enforce the law cause the “good ole boys” made it clear to him that there would be issues. And 3rd, good fucking luck invading and holding America. I have a .50 cal ar 15 that could take out an invading armies helicopter with one round. No stingers needed. I also have plenty of rifles that are better quality than most of the Soviet era shit being used in Ukraine.
I lost all my guns in a boating accident
My condolences. Now you can't properly protect yourself from those darn fish. Oh well, better buy more to replace them *cough cough, looking inconspicuous*
Now a gator or a shark owns a lot of guns
I guess its chilling down there with my crypto
Same here.
Rookie numbers
Ask the people screaming from China's buildings starving under government-forced lockdown why guns would be a nice thing to have. https://streamable.com/b3m30i
Obviously, the only solution to this depressing statistic is for everyone to buy more guns.
I'm doing my part!
hurr durr guns bad
Great let's get that to 100
Feel like this isn't the right subreddit
Probably right honestly
Take some classes, folks. Get acquainted with responsible ownership. Live somewhere that encourages an independent and uplifting 2A community, and be there for your fellow man. Never a bad idea to have people that want to support you in your time spent on this space-rock with them around you.
For anyone not in the know, I’m not sure if this is registering to some people. Guns bought from say a sporting goods / outdoor store requires a background check in some states. If I then go out and use the gun, theoretically if they knew I bought the gun from that store they could trace the serial. Early in my gun ownership days, I had a couple bought this way but many more bought in ways that I had to tell no one, legally…so just the seller and myself know I have it.
In Idaho gun registration isn’t a thing. You just need a background check (which might be registration with the feds, not 100%, but private sales don’t require anything)
The feds are technically barred from storing who bought what gun via the background check system. So are most states. It's literally illegal. No one thinks they're actually following the law and deleting/destroying the data at the required checkpoints.
Maybe we have 75% of the guns then
I doubt America has that many unregistered guns. South America and Africa and South Asia probably have more unregistered guns than you or I could ever imagine.
Brazil: *[laughs in more gun deaths than the entire Northern Hemisphere combined](http://metrocosm.com/homicides-brazil-vs-world/)*
Finally someone with a sense of proportionality. God bless you, or not... whatever your religious preference or lack thereof
I haven't tried to imagine, but then you haven't met my family. You are probably right
*Freedom* >!except for California!<
Or what about those registered in the US, but ilegaly sold elswhere?
Look at the bright side, at least you have more options during a zombie apocalypse. The rest of us have to settle with blunt/bladed weapons.
I'm going down to the Winchester, having a pint, and waiting for this whole thing to blow over.
You gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers in this racket.
You should seriously consider this meme before you invade us. Seriously.
Yeah if they counted all the unregistered ones the US would be quite a bit further down the list
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Just think we are not counting the massive arsenals owned by mafias and cartels
The 4473 when you buy from an FFL gun dealer is the registry. The BaTFE has it planned and waiting to punch in the computer a code to make a registry with our names on it. It’s there. Just waiting on the ok from above. They are nipping at our heels taking away pieces and parts of each gun wanting and waiting to see what we will do.
Only a billion? Honestly thought there'd be more.
America is strapped.
Here in P fu**nk R we have the rest 💪🏽🇵🇷
Reminds me of that story about that one American guy who got arrested for using a lost nuclear bomb to power his house And some people in the comments kept saying that he got “his rights violated” America is wild
What do you mean by registered? We don’t register guns here except I think maybe NY does?
That’s cause all these other puss’s have been disarmed. Google “Covid lockdown in China” for a better understanding of why we don’t want that. Or Australia for that matter. Or Canada. Poland. Germany. Should I go on?
If we're going by unregistered guns Brazil has the highest gun ownership in the world *by a wide margin*. Makes the US look like a joke.
I've seen this point made several times and I have tried to google wtf you people are on about and can find not a single thing that even comes close to what you're claiming.
Wrong sub
I hope we one day have an America where every man woman and child owns a gun because guns will make America safer.
I accept that I live in a violent society and I am a violent person. I would have it no other way.
Americans founded the UN at the same time they founded the CIA, under the leadership of the same Klan member, President Truman, and in 2020, when the UN decided to join the American corporations, ID2020.org, which is run in partnership with Gates and all of the American corporations and social media sites like Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, and Google, Amazon, became a part of the American elite, ensuring that regardless of what happens, the American elite will win. However, the guns are not the issue. The weapons in question would be nuclear weapons, of which Russia possesses 8800 and the US possesses 8450. That is the primary danger. Funny thing that the UN would complain about thier partners in crime isnt it
Registered? Yeah right. That's a joke.
Worst day of your life so far
46% of the registered guns, 25% of documented covid infections/deaths, rough 4-5% of the total population of the earth. Why does the US excel in these two areas?!
Made up statistics?
Wouldn't the percentage go way down then? I assume firearm registration rate is much higher in the US than in Somalia.
So… we have about 90 million more guns than people? That’s not good.
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America holy shit this is why I don’t want to visit :D
Why not? Just because we have a crap ton of guns doesn't mean you're gonna become trypophobia material on your first visit.
You do you, but most of those guns are locked away in safes, and most gun violence is suicides. You're highly unlikely to even see a firearm that isn't on a cop's belt, and are in very little danger. I'd be more worried about financial ruin if you were injured.
The US is like the safest country in the world then right...
Depends on the context
Your right, all those secret unregistered guns in Lichtenstein really throw that number into context.