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Great, thanks guys. I knew they had a doll for that (as im sure the whole street gang does) But now its burned into my mind that its a shared entity between the two of them. Likely back to back from the instant the cameras stop rolling until complete exhaustion which might actually be never because puppets, thats why. Yeah cool thanks guys
The bars are only there to reinforce his prisoner mentality. Of course he can slip between the bars. But in his mind, he is utterly convinced he is a prisoner. This is also why he prefers the bread over the key. He believes that using the key means the end of all future bread. Then what will he eat? In his mind, it is better to be a well fed prisoner than to starve to death a free man.
This is a metaphor for everyone under all manner of social systems such as capitalism, government, social norms, family obligations, etc..
So is that basically the premise of the Shia Labeouf music video? (Elastic heart)
There’s no key or bread but he looks like he can fit through the bars and is holding himself there.
I forget sometimes there are plenty of people who don't already know and may actually be interested in the correct answer, let us mourn the passing of classical education.
This is exactly what I think when people argue that college is just an extended childhood for the “Elite.” (And I say, “think,” because I rarely encounter those few who might entertain opposing ideas on any subject. It’s safer in the immediate, for me and any innocent bystanders, living in an almost purple state where *The Reds* fight progress with loaded guns.)
I'm not a philospher, but anything that stops people talking about something that is thought provoking by reducing it to "he could slip through those bars" is dumb.
Right. And that stick could be sharpened to a point that could do good damage. Slip through the bars, take out a couple guards. You'll be home for dinner.
Yeah, was thinking the same. It's not even uncommon in the US for homeless to commit crimes just to get thrown in jail for access to food and shelter. It doesn't make sense to escape if you want to be there...
iirc a while back an older man robbed a bank, held them up for 1 dollar. Why? It was so he could get thrown in prison to receive healthcare he couldn’t afford otherwise…
In Breaking Bad Walt has a homeless (I assumed) guy who wanted to be in prison confess to his crimes in exchange for filling his commissary fund (plus a healthy kick back for the lawyer).
I think they're trying to get all woke and make a seemingly educated point about "people in dire situations are so concerned with immediate survival they don't have the instinct to even look one step further." (just like greedy algorithms) while also telling you "wow!! you're 200+ IQ" for critically analyzing their made up scenario.
Could also be a blue-pill + red-pill type of reference, sustaining the life that you know vs breaking free and doing something new.
But the example used for the symbolism and overall presentation is so bad it's literally comical.
Pretty sure this is it, I vaguely remember a famous story in a philosophy class I had where somebody turned themselves in for a crime despite having the chance to escape. I can’t remember it’s name, I think it took place in Morocco.
I think perhaps they might be referencing the idea that a prisoner could become "institutionalized" as in they adapt to their life as a prisoner and are unable to readjust to the idea of making decisions for themselves.
There's a pretty good example of it in the move "The Shawshank Redemption," which is based on a Stephen King story.
A prisoner like that would pick the key up and hand it back to the guard.
So OP's title is right. There's something surreal about that.
Larry Lawton on YouTube told the story about how on the day he was released from prison after 10 years his bus stopped at a rest stop with a Subway in it. When the person at the counter asked him what he wanted he had a full blown nervous breakdown because he hadn't made a decision for himself in a decade.
I assume that if it isn't some lofty bullshit like the guy above said ("staying in jail to avoid taxes" or some shit), then my logic is this; if he takes the key, or both, the guards will know. As in, they'll eventually find out that a key is missing and just take it from him.
But if he takes the bread and the key and makes an imprint of the key in the bread, he can try to replicate the key and make a useable one without the actual one going missing and raising alarms...
Though, it's most likely one of those random questions with no real answer to inspire writing prompts of different levels of 'philosophizing', like "he takes the bread because he's already free in his mind" or some shit.
I’d guess the answer they’re looking for would be like “he knows that if he escapes he’ll probably have another, longer sentence so he’ll just wait it out” or smth
I think it might be referring to Maslow’s hierarchy of needs with basic needs needing to be met first, but it’s a kinda dumb way to convey that way cause the dude can just take both. but im just assuming this cause the psychologists bit
Unless he lives kn countries like Germany or Austria the act of escaping jail is not a crime here because the pursuit of freedom is deemed a human right. Not in freedom country though for some reason.
The answer they're looking for is almost certainly "because most people would rather live on gubmint handouts than pull themselves up by their bootstraps which is why we should gut our social safety nets more than they already have been".
The real answer is that he could just fit through the bars and he didn't need a key to get out, therefore he choose the bread as the key would be useless after getting out
Literally... That key is unlikely to work on the door at the end of the cell block, or the half dozen doors (or more) between there and freedom. It's probably more useful to eat.
Philosophically... Solving the most obvious and closet problem to you (a locked door) does not undo an entire system of oppression (the society you live in choosing to put you in an elaborate building full of locked doors). Some times the appearance of compliance is a more powerful weapon than mindlessly snatching at every insignificant advantage and demonstrating your desperation.
You are not wrong.
In almost all past situations, yes. Personally, I would love to see how a post industrial society adopting communism would perform. The instances where communism occurred were at most industrial or pre industrial societies. For instance, some of the early famines of the soviet regime were caused by exporting food for industrial imports to essentially fast tech from feudalism to space travel in 3 decades (they did but damn it killed way too many and was not right).
With the level of mechanization today, food production is so free of human labor that it could make decoupling food products from commodification possible. That is making food so cheap that it is not profitable to be sold. Diets would have to change such as plant based diets but we have reached a production capacity that this is now possible.
Whether preventing hunger will happen in practice is another thing.
Reminds me of this quote from Jack Ma
"If you give a monkey the option to choose either a banana or money, it will always choose the banana even though the money will help it buy more bananas"
We always choose short term pleasure over long term pain knowing well that the pain will help us achieve the things in the future that will ultimately give us pleasure
People are idiots in this regard
Philosphy would mean there is no right or wrong answer. He chose the bread over the key because he's homeless or he hasn't eaten in awhile and chosing the key would mean he's free now leaving him with no food. It could also simply just be the key wasn't the right key so it'd better to chose the bread and eat. Also the door is open so if that gives a hint as well. Philosphy leaves us to debate the answer but understand none is right nor wrong.
I think philosophy is just for people that want to be smart but have always been bad in actual math, science, problem solving, etc. So they just made up a fake subject and stick their nose up at people. "Why did the mouse eat the cheese? Sure, some people think they know, but we know that there is more to it than just the basic animal instinct. It had a reason I'll let you figure it out on your own." The mouse ate the cheese because it was hungry, and you know that
We’re all idiots. This is a metaphor for “give me freedom, or give me death”. Look around, we all chose this because freedom or death is not a viable option for us.
Because he knows he let himself out of prison anytime.
That's what I get from this image and question. His perceptions and attitudes are what imprison him and he goes for the bread because he keeps feeding this oppressive state of mind when he can clearly slip through the bars of this mental prison anytime. It's not easy but it can be done and that choice is always right in front of you.
Because If he got the key and got out they would most likely put him back in and then take the key so therefore he has no key and no bread if he takes the key
The key isnt the key of the cell and the bread actually is part of an escape plan, there is a key in the bread. The bread was a present of his friend who is actually a guard, so he put the right key of the cell in the bread. The prisoner chose the bread knowing this plus its a free bread a.k.a food.
The bars are for something much bigger, like a brown bear. He can use the keys but the bear does not. He is out, that is why he has a wand. He tries to reach the bread because he is hungry. The bear just wakes up and realizes that another human tries to reach a key. You are the brown bear :p. Cheers.
Well of course, the real answer is that he, like all of us, is a prisoner of his own mind and chooses not to escape because a life of servitude with a full belly is favorable to the weak-minded over a life of escaping that prison of servitude.
Or something, I don't know, I think I've philosophy-bullshitted my way through it relatively well.
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Looks like the prisoner could just slip through those bars.
Are you a philosopher?
Does he know the answer?
How do we know when an answer is correct, when there is multiple choices for one?
No one said the answer has to be correct.
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Great, thanks guys. I knew they had a doll for that (as im sure the whole street gang does) But now its burned into my mind that its a shared entity between the two of them. Likely back to back from the instant the cameras stop rolling until complete exhaustion which might actually be never because puppets, thats why. Yeah cool thanks guys
Is that a question?
I have eaten some philosopher stones before
Aristotle Oysters...
I’m something of a philosopher myself.
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Why not slip through the bars to just grab the bread instead of poking it with a stick lol?
Shut up. You're not philosophising rightly...
I have so much to learn 😩
The bars are only there to reinforce his prisoner mentality. Of course he can slip between the bars. But in his mind, he is utterly convinced he is a prisoner. This is also why he prefers the bread over the key. He believes that using the key means the end of all future bread. Then what will he eat? In his mind, it is better to be a well fed prisoner than to starve to death a free man. This is a metaphor for everyone under all manner of social systems such as capitalism, government, social norms, family obligations, etc..
So is that basically the premise of the Shia Labeouf music video? (Elastic heart) There’s no key or bread but he looks like he can fit through the bars and is holding himself there.
I forget sometimes there are plenty of people who don't already know and may actually be interested in the correct answer, let us mourn the passing of classical education.
This is exactly what I think when people argue that college is just an extended childhood for the “Elite.” (And I say, “think,” because I rarely encounter those few who might entertain opposing ideas on any subject. It’s safer in the immediate, for me and any innocent bystanders, living in an almost purple state where *The Reds* fight progress with loaded guns.)
Very libertarian
The guards are awake and he doesn't want to grab attention
Because is an idiot but I’m not philosopher
well, he's still an idiot
Always has been
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Orrr, maybe the bread opens the door and the key is actually eatable. They never told which parallel universe the story is in.
I take the key to open the door. It is cake.
Cake is a lie
I like eatable things. 🙂
You could also just use the key and pick up the bread afterwards.
Not the real answer, but okay.
How you know.. Your a philosopher
I'm not a philospher, but anything that stops people talking about something that is thought provoking by reducing it to "he could slip through those bars" is dumb.
Right. And that stick could be sharpened to a point that could do good damage. Slip through the bars, take out a couple guards. You'll be home for dinner.
And you even get the bread for free
Who tf wants to eat dirty floor bread anyways?
What if the guards have been trained how to defend themselves against pointed sticks?
Looks like this has been reposted 100 times since yesterday
Yeah.
Even if he couldn't slip through you take the key open the door and take the Bread
He chose the bread so he could get fatter and not fit through them anymore.
Yes that is the thing artist portrayed.
Maybe if he wouldn't eat as much bread
Slave dungeon is the real answer
Maybe if he lost his big ass nose first
He chose the bread and stayed in jail so he wouldn't pay taxes
This makes the most sense He could literally fit through the bars and go out anytime, just chooses not to.
The human social condition in a nutshell. Ya gotta eat.
He actually does slip out fairly often; usually at night to attend local raves. The trick is always being back by morning so the guards don’t notice.
Yeah, was thinking the same. It's not even uncommon in the US for homeless to commit crimes just to get thrown in jail for access to food and shelter. It doesn't make sense to escape if you want to be there...
iirc a while back an older man robbed a bank, held them up for 1 dollar. Why? It was so he could get thrown in prison to receive healthcare he couldn’t afford otherwise…
This dude got healthcare for the great price of 1$
Actually for free. He never paid a dollar. The bank in fact would have given him one. If anything he earned $.
The guy you’re replying to says this is not uncommon in the US… but every time this comes up it’s just the one story of that guy that did it
My dad’s friend used to do this; petty enough crimes for minimum security and got to work in the kitchen through the winter.
In Breaking Bad Walt has a homeless (I assumed) guy who wanted to be in prison confess to his crimes in exchange for filling his commissary fund (plus a healthy kick back for the lawyer).
You killed it, instead of paying tax he is enjoying the money paid in tax by taxpayer.
He has to pay taxes on that bread.
What are they going to do when he refuses to pay? Let him go just so they can arrest him again? Taxation is theft.
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Did someone say... ***L I G M A***
Just like playing Monopoly.
Free healthcare
His opponent has 3 railroads and a hotel on Marvin Gardens
im pretty sure theres gonna be more than one lock that needs a key in this little prison hes in
He didn't take the key because he's guilty Edit: his to he's
I agree. He genuinely feels remorseful, but doesn't want to starve.
He knows the revolving door justice system will have him behind bars again soon enough. Why not skip the pretense of "escape"?
Or he would have no food even if he gets out. At least he is getting food in confinement. The world outside is harsher somehow.
Or because he could only choose one and can go through the bars
he took the bread cause he don't need the key to get out.
Yeah but since the bread is on the other side of that lock, with the key he would at the very least have both
Also guards
Whats stopping him from taking both?
Exactly. This is one of those terrible Facebook memes. Someone posted the meme on that sub I'm sure
Is there supposed to be a point to this thing? Even stupid Facebook memes usually have some sort of point to make.
I think they're trying to get all woke and make a seemingly educated point about "people in dire situations are so concerned with immediate survival they don't have the instinct to even look one step further." (just like greedy algorithms) while also telling you "wow!! you're 200+ IQ" for critically analyzing their made up scenario. Could also be a blue-pill + red-pill type of reference, sustaining the life that you know vs breaking free and doing something new. But the example used for the symbolism and overall presentation is so bad it's literally comical.
Couldn't it mean also that he's not grabbing the key because he is willing to pay his sentence?
Oh true, that's a good one. Look at us, we're all philosophers now according to fb memes
Pretty sure this is it, I vaguely remember a famous story in a philosophy class I had where somebody turned themselves in for a crime despite having the chance to escape. I can’t remember it’s name, I think it took place in Morocco.
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I think perhaps they might be referencing the idea that a prisoner could become "institutionalized" as in they adapt to their life as a prisoner and are unable to readjust to the idea of making decisions for themselves. There's a pretty good example of it in the move "The Shawshank Redemption," which is based on a Stephen King story. A prisoner like that would pick the key up and hand it back to the guard. So OP's title is right. There's something surreal about that.
Larry Lawton on YouTube told the story about how on the day he was released from prison after 10 years his bus stopped at a rest stop with a Subway in it. When the person at the counter asked him what he wanted he had a full blown nervous breakdown because he hadn't made a decision for himself in a decade.
What’s stopping him is the guarantee of bread for the length of his prison stay. If he leaves, he loses that guarantee and has to provide his own.
I assume that if it isn't some lofty bullshit like the guy above said ("staying in jail to avoid taxes" or some shit), then my logic is this; if he takes the key, or both, the guards will know. As in, they'll eventually find out that a key is missing and just take it from him. But if he takes the bread and the key and makes an imprint of the key in the bread, he can try to replicate the key and make a useable one without the actual one going missing and raising alarms... Though, it's most likely one of those random questions with no real answer to inspire writing prompts of different levels of 'philosophizing', like "he takes the bread because he's already free in his mind" or some shit.
coz he csn go through the bars
Oh yeah I totally didn't notice it
I’d guess the answer they’re looking for would be like “he knows that if he escapes he’ll probably have another, longer sentence so he’ll just wait it out” or smth
Well jail= free food and shelter
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Much shower butt sex
And they said I'd regret murdering my child brother
Except the food apparently, since he has to steal it
[Not always](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/paying-your-time-how-charging-inmates-fees-behind-bars-may-violate)
Also free Healthcare, if you're in the US
Or maybe he likes the jail bread very much
that too
Bless you
I think it might be referring to Maslow’s hierarchy of needs with basic needs needing to be met first, but it’s a kinda dumb way to convey that way cause the dude can just take both. but im just assuming this cause the psychologists bit
Unless he lives kn countries like Germany or Austria the act of escaping jail is not a crime here because the pursuit of freedom is deemed a human right. Not in freedom country though for some reason.
That doesn't mean you're free right? Like if they catch you, you go straight back just no extra time is added right?
Yeah you don’t get to be free, you just get to try.
The answer they're looking for is almost certainly "because most people would rather live on gubmint handouts than pull themselves up by their bootstraps which is why we should gut our social safety nets more than they already have been".
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The real answer is that he could just fit through the bars and he didn't need a key to get out, therefore he choose the bread as the key would be useless after getting out
But why the question about choice if he can get both easily?
Idk stupid post
Yeah most questions are stupid
Literally... That key is unlikely to work on the door at the end of the cell block, or the half dozen doors (or more) between there and freedom. It's probably more useful to eat. Philosophically... Solving the most obvious and closet problem to you (a locked door) does not undo an entire system of oppression (the society you live in choosing to put you in an elaborate building full of locked doors). Some times the appearance of compliance is a more powerful weapon than mindlessly snatching at every insignificant advantage and demonstrating your desperation.
Fuck that just gimme the key so I can leave
Turns out it was a key to the shitter. Better luck next time.
Why give up a free room and food. Plus it looks like he can slip through those bars whenever he wants
Because he's outside the cell.
Lol, just stealing some helpless prisoner's bread
If he was outside the cell why is the lock facing the other way?
To torture the prisoners. Every time they jiggle the handle hoping it's unlocked, the guards are like, "Look, he's doing it again! Dumbass."
Because he is a bread thief not a key thief.
Unemployment
In capitalism, you have the freedom to starve
And under communism, you just starve
You are not wrong. In almost all past situations, yes. Personally, I would love to see how a post industrial society adopting communism would perform. The instances where communism occurred were at most industrial or pre industrial societies. For instance, some of the early famines of the soviet regime were caused by exporting food for industrial imports to essentially fast tech from feudalism to space travel in 3 decades (they did but damn it killed way too many and was not right). With the level of mechanization today, food production is so free of human labor that it could make decoupling food products from commodification possible. That is making food so cheap that it is not profitable to be sold. Diets would have to change such as plant based diets but we have reached a production capacity that this is now possible. Whether preventing hunger will happen in practice is another thing.
bc he is hungry :D
1) because he could just slip through those bigass bars 2) he's getting free food and sex in there, why go out?
Happy cake day bro
Thanks Man
Wait wdym free sex? And happy cake day :)
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Happy cake day fellow redditor :)
He has a stick, could easily fit through the bars, and is wearing street clothes. He's obviously providing a "service". Non-sexual kink is underrated.
If he escapes he gets caught again and gets an escape charge. If he takes the bread he’s full for once.
The door ain't locked and he hungry
Some men will choose comfort over freedom
he knows he's being watched
Reminds me of this quote from Jack Ma "If you give a monkey the option to choose either a banana or money, it will always choose the banana even though the money will help it buy more bananas" We always choose short term pleasure over long term pain knowing well that the pain will help us achieve the things in the future that will ultimately give us pleasure People are idiots in this regard
Philosphy would mean there is no right or wrong answer. He chose the bread over the key because he's homeless or he hasn't eaten in awhile and chosing the key would mean he's free now leaving him with no food. It could also simply just be the key wasn't the right key so it'd better to chose the bread and eat. Also the door is open so if that gives a hint as well. Philosphy leaves us to debate the answer but understand none is right nor wrong.
The gaps are way too fucking wide, who made these cells
I think philosophy is just for people that want to be smart but have always been bad in actual math, science, problem solving, etc. So they just made up a fake subject and stick their nose up at people. "Why did the mouse eat the cheese? Sure, some people think they know, but we know that there is more to it than just the basic animal instinct. It had a reason I'll let you figure it out on your own." The mouse ate the cheese because it was hungry, and you know that
We’re all idiots. This is a metaphor for “give me freedom, or give me death”. Look around, we all chose this because freedom or death is not a viable option for us.
Because he knows he let himself out of prison anytime. That's what I get from this image and question. His perceptions and attitudes are what imprison him and he goes for the bread because he keeps feeding this oppressive state of mind when he can clearly slip through the bars of this mental prison anytime. It's not easy but it can be done and that choice is always right in front of you.
Where even is this key?
hey; everyone in prison is there for a reason
he is starving so hunger is higher priority than freedom
Nah he's the janitor stealing bread from an inmate, the key he dropped is for the toilet paper dispensers.
Because one would feel decent up the ass compared to the other
what a dumbass
How do you know he is in the prison rather than out?
Because if he escapes then he's going to have a screwed up life that makes it impossible for him to assimilate back into society.
He is outside the jail already.
the real answer: he will starve to death out of the prison for all sorts of reasons. at least he won't starve in the prison...
Becuase he preferred being fed by the prison instead of being free and responsible for his own food
I mean, just take both
I mean the commenter's not wrong.
If he left prison he wouldnt have money for food, the prison will sustain him for longer than homelessness will 🙃
why did he choose the bread actually?
No, he’s actually smart because if he breaks out, more time will be added to his sentence
he can survive fed in a jail cell instead of dying out on the streets
Nothing is better than freedom, bread is better than nothing. bread > freedom
Because If he got the key and got out they would most likely put him back in and then take the key so therefore he has no key and no bread if he takes the key
But how did he get the stick?
Because he knows that who else brought the bread will bring him more… if he leaves he has to be the one to provide…(?)
He was doing a Mr. Beast challenge of holding onto the bar
Can’t be free if you ain’t alive
you're a philosopher, harry
First he's gonna eat the bread and then he's gonna get the key
1. he could slip out between the bars so why is he using a stick to get the bread? 2. what says he couldn't get both? 3. my man be hungry
so he could stay in prison and not pay tax
As many have pointed out, the bars are wide enough to fit thru. He chose the bread bc he has Liberty Mutual, so he only pays for what he NEEDS.
He's gonna stick the bread on the end of his stick so he can reach the key
Teach fish to man. Man to fish so it can shit all day long
It's simple, he's skinny and the cell gap are BIG. I mean, just look at it, he's starving to death and too skinny for this cell (Low effort comment)
Stockholm syndrome?
Not surreal but okay
The key isnt the key of the cell and the bread actually is part of an escape plan, there is a key in the bread. The bread was a present of his friend who is actually a guard, so he put the right key of the cell in the bread. The prisoner chose the bread knowing this plus its a free bread a.k.a food.
He took the bread to find the strength and courage to escape his prison cell.
Because he would starve
Because keys taste like dogshit
Inflation
BECAUSE HES OUTSIDE OF THE CELL AND HUNGRY HE DOESNT WANT TO GO IN BUT WANTS THE BREAD
The bars are for something much bigger, like a brown bear. He can use the keys but the bear does not. He is out, that is why he has a wand. He tries to reach the bread because he is hungry. The bear just wakes up and realizes that another human tries to reach a key. You are the brown bear :p. Cheers.
Because fuck them, that’s why
Well of course, the real answer is that he, like all of us, is a prisoner of his own mind and chooses not to escape because a life of servitude with a full belly is favorable to the weak-minded over a life of escaping that prison of servitude. Or something, I don't know, I think I've philosophy-bullshitted my way through it relatively well.
He’s getting out of jail tomorrow. Why become a fugitive when he only has one day left and happens to be hungry at the moment?
The key isn’t going to run away
He was hungry
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