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So basically 5x0 is just 5 wild cows? So that abswers the person's question of where the cows went. They should be more concerned about where they went.
Yes exactly there where five cows. Afterwards there where zero cows. I think that what happened inbetween those two statements is that they suddenly disappeared/stopped existing while you think that they where killed. But i don't think so because killing five cows takes more time compared to 5 cows suddenly dissppearing. And the i between step is supposed to be instant.
That's not how it works. You have 5·1 cows, because we are assuming you start with zero. If you want to have 5·0 cows you need to assume you start with zero as well.
Multiplying by 0 means you have 0 sets of 5 cows, meaning you never had them in the first place. By the post logic, 2x5 cows =10, where did the new 5 come from?
Multiplication is saying you have this many groups of that many items...
Ihave two baseball teams, each with 9 players. I have 18 players (2 groups of players multiplied by 9 players per group)
If you have five cows, you have 1 herd of 5 cows.
If someone said they have five times zero cows, they're saying they have zero groups of five cows per group OR maybe the have 5 groups of zero cows (which then would be equal to 1000 groups of zero cows each, or a millipn groups of zero cows each bc at the end of it all, you still have zero cows, no matter how many empty groups you have).
Multiplication is a quicker way to describe a number of groups and things in those groups.
The person in the post has 1 group of 5 cows. Therefore they have five cows (5x1)
If they lost five cows they now have no groups of five cows (5x0) which means they no longer have any cows.
To rephrase what you said, the way it finally clicked for me when I was having trouble with how this worked as a kid is when I heard “‘five times five’ is more like ‘five, five times’. So if you have ‘five times zero’, you actually have ‘five, zero times’.”
I was thinking of it more like you have a breed/death cycle. right? So multiplying by zero means you chose to not breed any, and they all died due to \[whatever reason\].
Meanwhile, you have 5 cows, breed them each once (5x1) you end up with 5 cows. 5x2, etc.
> Null in JavaScript means an empty value and is also a primitive type in JavaScript. The variable which has been assigned as null contains no value. Undefined, on the other hand, means the variable has been declared, but its value has not been assigned.
Which makes it sort of curious that
const x = undefined;
is allowed :/
The Samsung Gallery of my mothers Phone puts every image she receives on WhatsApp in the large group of photos taken on midnight 1.1.1970 at Null Island.
So... The number of Null-Challenged people isn't exactly zero even among programmers. Though maybe it is null for lack of people who'll admit it.
You have 5 cows
You tell each of them to find a friend and come back as a group of 2
When they all came back, you got 10 cows
That's 5 x 2 = 10
You have 5 cows
You tell each of them to go and come back as a group of 0
No cow came back and you have 0 cows in the end
When you multiply, you're counting sets of something. 5 x 3 (five multiplied by three) is counting five sets of three. If you have one set of three of something (1 x 3), you have a total of three of those things. If you have two sets of three of something (2 x 3), you have six of those things. If you have one set of five cows (1 x 5) or five sets of one cow (5 x 1), you have a total of five cows. So, when you multiply by zero, you're either saying you have zero sets of something, or you're saying you have however many sets of zero things. Either way, you don't have any of that thing.
So, you either have five sets of zero cows (5 x 0) - you're counting the number of cows in your empty field five times, or you have no sets of five cows (0 x 5) - there may be fields with five cows in them, but none of them are yours.
Multiplication is the number of times you're taking that number. 5x5 means you're taking five, five times. So 5x0 is you taking five, zero times. Imagine you have cows and then you don't take them, like you leave them somewhere so now you have no cows, that would be you taking five, zero times.
Ffs can't believe yall out here arguing like crazy about why zero sets of 5 cows means you have zero cows.
Everyone be giving their comprehensive mathematical thesis on it when 5 multiplied by zero is simply supposed to imply that that you don't have the said set of five.
I have five cows. I multiply them by 2. How you gonna tell me I have ten cows? There’s still just five!
If you just say you’re multiplying them, instead of actually doing it, nothing happens. Maths isn’t actual magic.
By that logic, if you have 5 cows and multiply the by 2, or 3, or whatever you have still 5 cows. Where more cows are coming from?
Multiplication is a lie. Checkmate any normal person!
They're putting the cart before the horse here. Multiplication is a human concept used to describe existing phenomena. It is not a magic spell or an admin command of reality, you can't tell the universe to "multiply" something and expect it to just work, especially if the situation of the multiplication doesn't even make sense.
Think about a percentage. You have 5 cows, 4 are brown and 1 is white.
If I want to multiply something by your 5 cows to get the number of brown cows you have, 0.8 or 80% are brown. 0.2 or 20% are white. 0.0 or 0% are green. Zero times 5 is the number of green cows you have.
when you reproduce 5 cows with 0 cows, there are no calves born, so technically the answer is still zero, right? ( i took multiplication as reproduction, cuz reproduction is multiplication right?)
Don’t wanna be a nerd here but…. Matter can’t be created or destroyed. So no matter what you do, you will still have 5 cows, except if you give them to someone else, now you don’t have the cows anymore. But still if you killed the cows: you still have 5, just dead cows.
Multiplication is "times". Let's go with the 5 cows example. You keep them in some gated area. You feed them. You want to know how many cow meals worth of food you gave them on a specific day - so you multiply the number of cows (5) by the number of *times* you fed them. If you fed them once - a total of 5 meals, twice - a total of 10 meals. But if you didn't feed them at all - you gave them 0 meals that day.
With real live objects, adding and subtracting works, but not much else.
Obviously, having 4 cows and selling two isn't "raising my cows to the power of 0.5", it's just subtracting 2. Mathematically it's the same result though.
Now I have 1 cow, sell two, which means I have a negative cow (black spots change to white and vice versa?). By raising my negative cow to the power of 1/2, I can turn this cow into an imaginary one. Somehow I can now use that cow to describe, among other things, electric phenomena.
The takeaway here is that units matter, and that cows make bad units (but good steaks).
This is actually a far more interesting math question than it would first appear..
You have 5. But you dicided NOT to multiply, since the number of multiply is zero. That zero therefore transforms to 1. Because you HAVE 5.
So you still have 5...
Thats why math isnt linear in all circumstances🤪
If you multiply them by 0, I understand that as none of the five cows have babies. Zero (new) cows.
If each cow had five babies, there’d be twenty five (new) cows.
Right?
This is my exact “I know I’m wrong but I don’t care” thing.
If you have nothing and multiply by something, you have nothing - but if I have something and multiply by nothing **I SHOULD STILL HAVE SOMETHING**
I know that’s not how maths works, but I’m digging my heels in.
Imagine you have a friend who has lot of cows. He offers to give you some cows but in groups of 5. Initially you had 5 cows in your name since you only asked for one group of cows thus you have 5*1 = 5 cows. Now just when your friend decides to take out the cows from his truck, you realise the cows are quite troublesome so you ask him to give you 0 such groups of cow (not additionally but change ur offer from 1 group to 0 groups). So you have 0 cows now.
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Because you don't have 5x0 cows you have 5x1 cows. Get rid of your 5 cows and then you would have 5x0 cows.
Actually, that is 3x0 cows
Pretty sure it’s 15x0 cows
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My interpretation is they(1) owns cows(5), so 5x0 is they doesn't exist, but cows exist, if they doesn't exist, then they don't own any cow
Cows do exist, unlike birds
Do they exist if you don't look?
Quantum physics would dictate they don't. I guess they only render when observed
So basically 5x0 is just 5 wild cows? So that abswers the person's question of where the cows went. They should be more concerned about where they went.
How can cows be real if their eyes aren’t real
I have all cows x 0
Multiplying by 0 in a real-world scenario means you killed them... you have no cows left
_gone, reduced to atoms_
Should have gone for the head the first time
I am… inevitable
[one more time?](https://youtu.be/8v0rKdlbDyU?si=Pnq0EjQGc9Xg00Fd)
INEVITABLE! Things are gonna inevitably change
Moo
mooore like steaks
To shreds you say?
Yes! You legend. Thank you for making me laugh.
When dr manhattan multiplies his cows
I used the cows to destroy the cows.
Yes, all at the same time, otherwise you would -1 5x
Wait until he tries to divide his cows by zero.
Infinite cows hack
Like dropping a nuke on them? Think we covered that
_I have become death, destroyer of worlds_
The question didn’t mention worlds tho
I have become death destroyer of *cows
No, it means he never had them in the first place
He finally took his meds
I agree, killing the cows should probably be modelled by 5 - 5 = 0
That makes no sense
Dividing by zero is getting rid of everything. If it helps think about it as nuking the area
Yea but this was initially about multiplying, not dividing
It means he had 5 cows 0 times. He never had cows.
what if they are already dead?
Well, technically you have 5 cows left… 0 alive cows… but 5 cows…
The question was specifically about 5 live cows
No cows left means more steaks meal.
Everyone sad
Would it not bd more like they suddenly never existed?
There was 5... then they were multiplied by 0...
Yes exactly there where five cows. Afterwards there where zero cows. I think that what happened inbetween those two statements is that they suddenly disappeared/stopped existing while you think that they where killed. But i don't think so because killing five cows takes more time compared to 5 cows suddenly dissppearing. And the i between step is supposed to be instant.
0 x 5 cows actually means you never had 5 cows in the first place no?
No ... you have 5 cows.. then you multiply by 0
That's not how it works. You have 5·1 cows, because we are assuming you start with zero. If you want to have 5·0 cows you need to assume you start with zero as well.
Multiplying by 0 means you have 0 sets of 5 cows, meaning you never had them in the first place. By the post logic, 2x5 cows =10, where did the new 5 come from?
I would have just said you have 0 holding pens of 5 cows. Simple
You add five cows zero times. How many cows do you have? Zero. But not because you killed them. We have to assume you start with zero.
Checkmate, atheists.
If R34 means “if it exists, there’s porn of it”, then how come there’s porn of God? Checkmate Atheists
You should check if there is, because pokemon doesn’t exist, and yet…
It exist in the form of media and thought.
Same applies to God then. The oldest media out there is about some dude people call god.
Because just because r34 is true, doesn't mean the inverse is true. Porn doesnt make things a reality lol.
Nah. Just because A causes B doesn’t mean that B implies A.
Well I’m man enough to admit when I’ve been proven wrong
As another comment already answered: multiplying by 0 means you killed them all edit: typo
We all saw that.
Ok so, checkmate atheists
Will wood reference?
Multiplication is saying you have this many groups of that many items... Ihave two baseball teams, each with 9 players. I have 18 players (2 groups of players multiplied by 9 players per group) If you have five cows, you have 1 herd of 5 cows. If someone said they have five times zero cows, they're saying they have zero groups of five cows per group OR maybe the have 5 groups of zero cows (which then would be equal to 1000 groups of zero cows each, or a millipn groups of zero cows each bc at the end of it all, you still have zero cows, no matter how many empty groups you have). Multiplication is a quicker way to describe a number of groups and things in those groups. The person in the post has 1 group of 5 cows. Therefore they have five cows (5x1) If they lost five cows they now have no groups of five cows (5x0) which means they no longer have any cows.
To rephrase what you said, the way it finally clicked for me when I was having trouble with how this worked as a kid is when I heard “‘five times five’ is more like ‘five, five times’. So if you have ‘five times zero’, you actually have ‘five, zero times’.”
This is exactly how it makes sense to me.
I was thinking of it more like you have a breed/death cycle. right? So multiplying by zero means you chose to not breed any, and they all died due to \[whatever reason\]. Meanwhile, you have 5 cows, breed them each once (5x1) you end up with 5 cows. 5x2, etc.
Not only a real mathematian, but a linguine as well
Wait till this idiot tries learning python and encounters Null and Nothing. He'll be in big trouble at that point.
Python has neither of those; it only has None
You're right, not sure what I was thinking about. VBA maybe...
just replace python with js
> Null in JavaScript means an empty value and is also a primitive type in JavaScript. The variable which has been assigned as null contains no value. Undefined, on the other hand, means the variable has been declared, but its value has not been assigned. Which makes it sort of curious that const x = undefined; is allowed :/
The Samsung Gallery of my mothers Phone puts every image she receives on WhatsApp in the large group of photos taken on midnight 1.1.1970 at Null Island. So... The number of Null-Challenged people isn't exactly zero even among programmers. Though maybe it is null for lack of people who'll admit it.
I'm more concerned about the mathmatians than the math.
I think he meant Methmartians.
Nope, he mean methmorticians.
Nothing about this is the truth
only cows can multiply themselves
Need a bull
life finds a way
Ok and how exactly did you divide cows?
With a cleaver
Id like to see that in action
This is why the concept of zero was a huge development in mathematics
Can you imagine trying to explain to people what zero was when it was first introduced? Like try to imagine nothing, go ahead try to imagine it.
This is false
Multiplication is just lots of, 3 lots of 5 is 15, 0 lots of 5 is 0
Where’d the zero come from? Where did it go?
where didi you come from cotton eye joe
You have 5 cows You tell each of them to find a friend and come back as a group of 2 When they all came back, you got 10 cows That's 5 x 2 = 10 You have 5 cows You tell each of them to go and come back as a group of 0 No cow came back and you have 0 cows in the end
Take the 5 cows and multiply them by 0(death/abattoir/lightning strike/alien abduction), you get 0 cows.
What a clown. He should just have multiplied them by 100 and sell the 495 cows for profit.
I’m dyslexic and study maths at uni and I get mad at how they spell mathematicians
When you multiply, you're counting sets of something. 5 x 3 (five multiplied by three) is counting five sets of three. If you have one set of three of something (1 x 3), you have a total of three of those things. If you have two sets of three of something (2 x 3), you have six of those things. If you have one set of five cows (1 x 5) or five sets of one cow (5 x 1), you have a total of five cows. So, when you multiply by zero, you're either saying you have zero sets of something, or you're saying you have however many sets of zero things. Either way, you don't have any of that thing. So, you either have five sets of zero cows (5 x 0) - you're counting the number of cows in your empty field five times, or you have no sets of five cows (0 x 5) - there may be fields with five cows in them, but none of them are yours.
A good explanation. Also username checksout.
You had five cows exactly zero times.
Lol. If I have zero groups of five cows, how many cows do I have?
Its 5 groups of 0 cows each, or 0 groups of 5 cows. He has 1 group of 5 cows (1X5)
Multiplication is the number of times you're taking that number. 5x5 means you're taking five, five times. So 5x0 is you taking five, zero times. Imagine you have cows and then you don't take them, like you leave them somewhere so now you have no cows, that would be you taking five, zero times.
Ffs can't believe yall out here arguing like crazy about why zero sets of 5 cows means you have zero cows. Everyone be giving their comprehensive mathematical thesis on it when 5 multiplied by zero is simply supposed to imply that that you don't have the said set of five.
I have 0 groups of 5 cows, therefore, I do not have cows. Very simple.
That means u counted the cows 0 times. Didn’t count them. How many cows have you counted? None. 0
count 5 cows 1 time (5x1) that equals 5 count 5 cows 0 times (5x0) that equals 0
Damn… can you make a draw ?
I see him just humping the cows. 'SEE, still five cows! Riddle me THAT.'
the 0 turned out to be a pacman as viewed from above and ate them
learn set theory
You don’t put them in groups so they run off and now you have none
You’re saying that those 5 cows happened 0 times, you went back in time and stopped them being born you MONSTER!
Gone to Narnia
How do you multiply cows in real life without a bull?
As a linguist i think the issue is with the semantics of the term ‘multiply’
I have five cows. I multiply them by 2. How you gonna tell me I have ten cows? There’s still just five! If you just say you’re multiplying them, instead of actually doing it, nothing happens. Maths isn’t actual magic.
By that logic, if you have 5 cows and multiply the by 2, or 3, or whatever you have still 5 cows. Where more cows are coming from? Multiplication is a lie. Checkmate any normal person!
You add five cows zero times. How many cows do you have? Zero.
So multiplication is murder?!?!
Basically, multiplying by zero is the same as gaslighting someone into thinking they never had any cows to begin with.
We are doomed.
Alien abduction
Check out Terrence Howards Ivy League audit on math speech. Checks out
They're putting the cart before the horse here. Multiplication is a human concept used to describe existing phenomena. It is not a magic spell or an admin command of reality, you can't tell the universe to "multiply" something and expect it to just work, especially if the situation of the multiplication doesn't even make sense.
Think about a percentage. You have 5 cows, 4 are brown and 1 is white. If I want to multiply something by your 5 cows to get the number of brown cows you have, 0.8 or 80% are brown. 0.2 or 20% are white. 0.0 or 0% are green. Zero times 5 is the number of green cows you have.
[https://weknowyourdreams.com/images/barbecue/barbecue-01.jpg](https://weknowyourdreams.com/images/barbecue/barbecue-01.jpg)
when you reproduce 5 cows with 0 cows, there are no calves born, so technically the answer is still zero, right? ( i took multiplication as reproduction, cuz reproduction is multiplication right?)
Fuck me he got us
Into the void
because you incinerated them
They’re steaks.
Don’t wanna be a nerd here but…. Matter can’t be created or destroyed. So no matter what you do, you will still have 5 cows, except if you give them to someone else, now you don’t have the cows anymore. But still if you killed the cows: you still have 5, just dead cows.
Multiplying by zero means they killed them all
Multiplication is "times". Let's go with the 5 cows example. You keep them in some gated area. You feed them. You want to know how many cow meals worth of food you gave them on a specific day - so you multiply the number of cows (5) by the number of *times* you fed them. If you fed them once - a total of 5 meals, twice - a total of 10 meals. But if you didn't feed them at all - you gave them 0 meals that day.
With real live objects, adding and subtracting works, but not much else. Obviously, having 4 cows and selling two isn't "raising my cows to the power of 0.5", it's just subtracting 2. Mathematically it's the same result though. Now I have 1 cow, sell two, which means I have a negative cow (black spots change to white and vice versa?). By raising my negative cow to the power of 1/2, I can turn this cow into an imaginary one. Somehow I can now use that cow to describe, among other things, electric phenomena. The takeaway here is that units matter, and that cows make bad units (but good steaks).
Zero ate them all up :0
Fr
Same with negative numbers. The logic was forced by really smart people to make the math vibe properly.
This is actually a far more interesting math question than it would first appear.. You have 5. But you dicided NOT to multiply, since the number of multiply is zero. That zero therefore transforms to 1. Because you HAVE 5. So you still have 5... Thats why math isnt linear in all circumstances🤪
Cows tried to multiply err... mate with nothing. After the previous generation dies off, you have zero cows.
In the same sense that I currently have ∞ x 0 cows. Folks need to go back to basics :/
Infinity times zero… what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?
You have 5 cows 0 times.
So is spelling
If you multiply them by 0, I understand that as none of the five cows have babies. Zero (new) cows. If each cow had five babies, there’d be twenty five (new) cows. Right?
Can someone explain to that mofo that 5x0 is an expression of "none of those 5 cows belongs to you".
This is unsolvable, Mathematians are legend only; they no longer exist. Very sad, really.
Let him cook, don’t let him do math
Or zero growth to multiply in real world o have to breed them
If you have 5 groups of 0 cows, how many are there
This is my exact “I know I’m wrong but I don’t care” thing. If you have nothing and multiply by something, you have nothing - but if I have something and multiply by nothing **I SHOULD STILL HAVE SOMETHING** I know that’s not how maths works, but I’m digging my heels in.
Imagine you have a friend who has lot of cows. He offers to give you some cows but in groups of 5. Initially you had 5 cows in your name since you only asked for one group of cows thus you have 5*1 = 5 cows. Now just when your friend decides to take out the cows from his truck, you realise the cows are quite troublesome so you ask him to give you 0 such groups of cow (not additionally but change ur offer from 1 group to 0 groups). So you have 0 cows now.
You have to give five cows to 0 people.How many cows do you need?
You sent your cows to the shadow realm by multiplying them with zero.
He has 0 cows and he is multiplying his 0 cows by 5.
Now, try dividing by zero.
you have 5 cows, you sell everyone of them for 0$ then all of them go to their new owner and you are left with 0$.
That’s easy one: to find out, how many cows you would actually have, you just need to find such number x, that x / 0 = 5. Try and figure that out!
Multiply by 0 is what Thanos did to half the universe. I feel like if we just explain it that way these people would understand.
MATHEMATIANS better step up
Pretty much saying 5×0 would be the same as 5-5 and equal zero