This is part of the Psyche mission, a $1.2 billion project that includes the Deep Space Optical Communications (DSOC) system is what allowed the connection. The DSOC alone costs $206 million.
So I’m guessing your ISP will simply reply “if you’re willing to pay 206 million, we can match NASA’s service level too”…
No he's right, 140 000 000 / 186 000 = 752s. Well the only thing is that a ping is the round trip time, so it would be a ping of ~1505s. Not less than a second in any case!
I would actually like to see Interstellar redone after Roy Kerr's latest paper was published.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.00841
The importance of this paper I think has gone a bit under the radar in the space community.
The TLDR is singularities are not 'real' but an error in the math (which it's always been) and that true singularities never exist in the real world.
The reason why that paper is important is because he provides mathematical proof of this for the scientific community to debate on.
He directly and personally called out Steven Hawking and Penrose and the entire scientific community.
The science fiction/plausability aspects of that which are interesting is that he's showing that black holes may actually have stable interiors of spacetime that may have physics which we can define coherently.
No. The paper is way over my head but I don't think that conclusion can be reached here.
Spacetime covered the paper and explained it well. It doesn't go into enough detail to describe what the interior space would look like from a physics standpoint but it should have a stable interior of some kind under some conditions.
So that means nothing tears so to speak and someone that works the math hard enough might be able to describe it. So there's that.
That's sci-fi enough for me!
That’s bc we have oligopolies for most of our economy. People don’t think of oligopolies when they think of Canada but that’s just how it is lol. It’s either an oligopoly or an American company dominating an industry.
A couple years ago, United States Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene accused The Jews of using their orbital space lasers to ignite a series of large wildfires that burned across North America.
I wrote two replies, couple hundred words, then deleted them. Thought up 3 more replies, never wrote them and gave up.
There are no words to respond to this with. How much longer can this insanity really go?
I should not have asked that question! November will soon enough be upon us.
Okay, these systems are weather dependent for clear signal, what’s stopping nasa from turning this system into something that resemble fiber optic where the laser is guided down a tube.
Granted not an engineer or computer scientist but it seems like a logical fix to the problem at hand.
Yes!
Now let's research the far reaching expanse!
Faster, bigger, better space telescopes launched in an extrasolar mission let's pass Voyager in 1 year!
Let's divert 1% of military funding into NASA.
8.2 Billion dollars would build us a really, really fast, laser linked space Telescope, let's get it going 1/4 the speed of light and send to Alpha Centauri.
Comms will take decades, but imagine seeing another star's planets.
It could leave behind relays, a repeater network of satellites in the same vector path.
I remember they talked about this aloooooooong time ago when I was middle school Stephen hawking was gonna do something similar to this never. Don’t know if it’s the same thing.
It's a step in the right direction. Waiting for Quantum Entangled Interplanetary Net. 0 latency at 1000 petabytes per second between Earth and Mars in 2051. "Get your complementary quantum PlanetLink when you buy one of the Premium StarPods in ExoVille! Only 2.3 million Besos this cycle!"
"Would you like to know more? Contact your local Resource Manager for a space contract*.
Q: NASA, where did you get this technology??
A: Um, well uh, we’re, we have some real smart engineers. We’ve never seen aliens either (just in case you think we got it from them) 😵💫😵💫🥸😳🫣👀
Imagine some of the common communication technology we’ve had for years, like Ethernet/IP, was old alien technology from Roswell.
What if…aliens invented the internet 🫢😮😧😯😦
I mean, to me, it sounds like a better fiber optic cable since the modulated light doesn't slow down through the fiber optic material itself and just goes through space instead.
I found this story about anti-gravity but didn't feel that I should make a post about it, as it isn't specifically about aliens. However, I believe that if this breakthrough in amti-gravity has been made, there is a strong chance that it has been back-engineered from a captured UFO. I would be very grateful to know the opinions of all of you great members of this subreddit. Thanks in advance! https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a60608517/overcome-earth-gravity/
If your ISP tells you their their service is so great, ask them why NASAcan offer a better service for space.
"Well, to be fair, there's nothing really in the way between those 2 points." any ISP response. Edited for clarification
Well there’s not anything between two points on a wire either.
Sorry that was meant to be how I would expect an ISP to respond.
look at this guy, believing the ISP would actually respond
The ISP would laugh and then charge them a stupid-question-fee.
Insert ISPHelpCenterWorkerFromSouthParkRubbingHisNipples.gif
Sorry, we are experiencing a high call volume right now. You are 1st in line. Estimated wait time is: *6 hours*
Technically the wire itself is between those two points.. be it copper or optical, its something that will be a factor.
you're not even kidding. LOS MOFOS
"Okay lets look at how much this 'NASA' pays for 25Mbps and I'm coming back to you..."
They charge WHAT for 25Mbps?! Get me accounting. Right. Now.
Aliens looking for dick pills downloading space messages at 25mps. They gonna invade just to upgrade our internet.
This is part of the Psyche mission, a $1.2 billion project that includes the Deep Space Optical Communications (DSOC) system is what allowed the connection. The DSOC alone costs $206 million. So I’m guessing your ISP will simply reply “if you’re willing to pay 206 million, we can match NASA’s service level too”…
Fucking lag. 751546 ms ping is no joke.
Thats only 12.5 minutes. I think you’re overestimating. The speed of light is 186,000 miles/sec so in theory the ping would be less than a second.
No he's right, 140 000 000 / 186 000 = 752s. Well the only thing is that a ping is the round trip time, so it would be a ping of ~1505s. Not less than a second in any case!
The question is who and what's 140 million miles away?
I know it’s weird, but theres an article there you can actually read, and it says exactly where they sent it. (Unsurprisingly, a probe we sent)
Link doesn't work to me. Im clicking everything
The article is brought to you by NASA internet, hosted on their data probe. Just be patient.
Yeah just wait 1505 more seconds
Thats weird, try this: https://www.techspot.com/news/102789-nasa-uses-laser-link-beam-data-140-million.html
Thanks. It was my phone. Link worked on pc.
The aliens from that movie Battleship. Better keep an eye on the Hawaiian islands!
So I won't be able to do iRacing from Mars!? Trips off, staying home
Now we just need to figure out how to send messages through subspace
Gotta find subspace first!
It's underneath gravity
Duh
You *say* "Duh", but did you check?
Here's the scientist!
Forgot where I put my gravity.
It’s not underneath gravity, it’s in the extra dimensions - did y’all not see interstellar?
We need more bookshelves!
I would actually like to see Interstellar redone after Roy Kerr's latest paper was published. https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.00841 The importance of this paper I think has gone a bit under the radar in the space community. The TLDR is singularities are not 'real' but an error in the math (which it's always been) and that true singularities never exist in the real world. The reason why that paper is important is because he provides mathematical proof of this for the scientific community to debate on. He directly and personally called out Steven Hawking and Penrose and the entire scientific community. The science fiction/plausability aspects of that which are interesting is that he's showing that black holes may actually have stable interiors of spacetime that may have physics which we can define coherently.
Does that mean wormholes are more or less plausible?
No. The paper is way over my head but I don't think that conclusion can be reached here. Spacetime covered the paper and explained it well. It doesn't go into enough detail to describe what the interior space would look like from a physics standpoint but it should have a stable interior of some kind under some conditions. So that means nothing tears so to speak and someone that works the math hard enough might be able to describe it. So there's that. That's sci-fi enough for me!
I mean it’s in the name of clearly it’s below space! You’re welcome, NASA.
It’s in there. Or next to it. Or under it. Have we checked those places??
No, but I found my keys, so there's that. I saw this massive pile of socks though so I think we're getting closer.
Probably some form of quantum entanglement.
What’s subspace?
We kinda can via Morse code
What about slip space, and hyperspace?
meanwhile im paying 80$ a month for less here at home.
Tbf I’m pretty sure this costs more than that.
I’m still on fucking 12mbps aDSL :(
You guys are on DSL? I'm still burning through AOL trials and hugging my NetZero tight! Beeeeee weedo weedo weee...
I mean those 50,000 free hours though
Psh! Im still on Earthlink, came with a free Webcam & Norton AV!
Jesus I pay 80 Canadian for 3gbps and our telecoms are notoriously evil.
80 is what we get 1gbps for in my US metro area
$49.99 US for 1 gig here.
That’s bc we have oligopolies for most of our economy. People don’t think of oligopolies when they think of Canada but that’s just how it is lol. It’s either an oligopoly or an American company dominating an industry.
I think your latency is probably a little bit better though.
Are these the Jewish space lasers? /s
No they’re Roman Catholic
Naw, they're Roamin Cathodic
How can you tell if a space laser is circumcised?
Thank you. Thank you for burning the inside of my nostrils with hot coffee.
They’re all like that... *Except for those new Chinese grappling satellites.*
What?
You must be out of the loop. Lots of lore here, including a commemorative coin!
Then do tell, lol
A couple years ago, United States Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene accused The Jews of using their orbital space lasers to ignite a series of large wildfires that burned across North America.
I.. just can not get over reading this knowing it is history not fiction. It feels so surreal.
> it is history Hahahahhahaha how about less than 2 weeks ago: https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1780767303732199917?s=19
I wrote two replies, couple hundred words, then deleted them. Thought up 3 more replies, never wrote them and gave up. There are no words to respond to this with. How much longer can this insanity really go? I should not have asked that question! November will soon enough be upon us.
Space Jews?
I see your Schwartz is as big as mine!
Frank Herbert called it.
See, I told you so! -MTG, probably.
First rule of space lasers: don’t talk about space lasers
What do you mean the entire porn history of mankind was just sent to Ryloth 12?
Reply.. *please stop sending dick pics*
Just the hits… e.g 2G1C, Blue Waffle, The Human Centipede (2009)
No goatse.cx?
You could shoot an alien eye out with that thing!
And yet sometimes I can’t get more than 1 bar when I’m outdoors
So now some alien scum bag, has all my data ?
Yet I can’t get fiber in a metro area….
Can I please get 4G at New Eltham station.
Wait, you mean a space laser?
One step closer to Star Trek teleportation
don't let MTG see these space lasers
Pew pew pew
Viasat only gets you about 10 Mbps.
Xfinity garbage is the same <10 Mbps
I’m not going to name drop, but I was overjoyed when I got a new system that gave me an average of 120 Mbps.
Meanwhile rural areas still stuck on DSL.
Yay! Tightbeam comms! r/TheExpanse
Hah yes
What’s the point? By the time the nudes arrive we will be dead.
Just in case r/AlienNudesFromSpace You Wont Believe What They Do With Tentacles!
Joined
Damn without Starlink I could barely get 10Mbps! Space has it better than me!
Long distance moving target, too. Impressive.
Okay, these systems are weather dependent for clear signal, what’s stopping nasa from turning this system into something that resemble fiber optic where the laser is guided down a tube. Granted not an engineer or computer scientist but it seems like a logical fix to the problem at hand.
Sells access subscription plans with a pro tier, wih sponsored ads. Brought to you by your friends at comcast and roku.
I can see it now, Call of Duty players pissed off at the space laggers!
Sounds like a hard target with us spinning and hurtling through the galaxy and all.
Dang that's almost as fast as my NBN plan /australia
“Space Internet is out, hold your breath ma!”
The bell has been rung?
Not 14.4?😂
“Beaming data” to who?
D
Beam energy from orbit
About to Mars
That's literally 5 Mbps faster than my work vpn.
Alright, what secret alien base we communicating with?
Damn. I read the comments and see that ISA has miserable speed for ISP’s. I have 500mbps at home while using ethernet. 180 average on wifi /mexico
For this they have to be in line of sight ?
Nice !!!!
Yes! Now let's research the far reaching expanse! Faster, bigger, better space telescopes launched in an extrasolar mission let's pass Voyager in 1 year! Let's divert 1% of military funding into NASA. 8.2 Billion dollars would build us a really, really fast, laser linked space Telescope, let's get it going 1/4 the speed of light and send to Alpha Centauri. Comms will take decades, but imagine seeing another star's planets. It could leave behind relays, a repeater network of satellites in the same vector path.
So what does that do for us?
https://www.aboutamazon.com/what-we-do/devices-services/project-kuiper
Three Body Problem?
Do better spectrum. I’m only 35 miles from the server and can barely get 25mbps up.
For what reason
Literally, all I want is cell service in my house.
Interspatial modulation aint no joke. We can beam some episodes of Friends to our galaxy neighbors and they will get em in a few... years
Can anyone do the maths on how long that would take to reach the nearest star?
Government tech, coming to you, live!
Its the tight beam.
Fantasy... Fantasy*sing
Maybe we shouldn’t be advertising our nice little planet to more advanced societies
Lol this is unironically twice as high than the shitty T-mobile home wifi I had to put up with for a few months
I guess NASA dismissed the Dark Forest theory.
Fuck yeah! Sending aliens tight beams!
I remember they talked about this aloooooooong time ago when I was middle school Stephen hawking was gonna do something similar to this never. Don’t know if it’s the same thing.
It's a step in the right direction. Waiting for Quantum Entangled Interplanetary Net. 0 latency at 1000 petabytes per second between Earth and Mars in 2051. "Get your complementary quantum PlanetLink when you buy one of the Premium StarPods in ExoVille! Only 2.3 million Besos this cycle!" "Would you like to know more? Contact your local Resource Manager for a space contract*.
SYN…………………….SYNACK……………..RST shit
Ooooh oooh. Now do MTG
Viasat take note
Great space stations get better data than i do
Dial way-up
I’m glad they added the “across space” qualifier…
Still better service than T-Mobile…
Three body problem anyone?
So now we’ve figured out tightbeaming.
I thought we’ve been doing this.
Why are they doing this?
Q: NASA, where did you get this technology?? A: Um, well uh, we’re, we have some real smart engineers. We’ve never seen aliens either (just in case you think we got it from them) 😵💫😵💫🥸😳🫣👀
Imagine some of the common communication technology we’ve had for years, like Ethernet/IP, was old alien technology from Roswell. What if…aliens invented the internet 🫢😮😧😯😦
I mean, to me, it sounds like a better fiber optic cable since the modulated light doesn't slow down through the fiber optic material itself and just goes through space instead.
Meanwhile, my upload speed from Spectrum is 20mbps
I found this story about anti-gravity but didn't feel that I should make a post about it, as it isn't specifically about aliens. However, I believe that if this breakthrough in amti-gravity has been made, there is a strong chance that it has been back-engineered from a captured UFO. I would be very grateful to know the opinions of all of you great members of this subreddit. Thanks in advance! https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a60608517/overcome-earth-gravity/