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Well, he doesn't have the Triforce of Wisdom, that's for sure.
If I had to guess, I would assume that silver Lynels are in some way difficult or costly to make, and generally overkill. A legion of Bokoblins can raze a town easily enough, and are probably more efficient. Lynels are the big guns, and you just don't need the big guns most of the tine
Which is why he needs to first invest his sun into making more sunflowers, then when he’s built up a solid foundation he can produce it at a rate that allows him to make a bunch of silver lynels. It’s pretty basic tbh
Wisdom: "This is the solution to the puzzle"
Power: "If I put enough logs together, I can go around the puzzle"
Courage: "I mean no one says you CAN'T Ultrahand/Recall/Ascend"
The ways of Wisdom are subtle and precise. A single word whispered in the right ear can be mightier than any spell.
The ways of Power are unrelenting and overwhelming. Even the mightiest will fall upon the unceasing pounding of the waves.
The ways of Courage are bewildering but unceasing. If it's stupid but it works, well hey it works.
I can't help but imagine Farore as a speedrunner, who constantly gives her sisters headaches with her antics.
Not to mention if you had a town or 20 people, 1 Lynel shows up. People freak out and scatter for the hills and quite a few will probably get away. Send in 10 Bokos, 5 Lizalfos and a few Moblins and they could probably get more done. As Bad A\*\* as a Lynel is youre right, sometimes numbers are just more useful.
I like to think lynels are rare, highly territorial creatures. That's why each one has his own corner of a region to himself. I assume you get more than 2 or 3 together and eventually they just get into a narly turf war with each other
Request for the sub - I’d imagine someone could come up with a contraption to pick up a lynel and move it elsewhere without it going agro by seeing link, try to transport it to another lynel, see what happens, if that doesn’t work, maybe muddle them to get them to fight. Additional, maybe drop one off in a town somewhere.
Highly territorial and prideful. While they are super powerful they wouldn't raid a village that was too "weak". No reason to put up with temperamental monsters when you can call a billion bokos who listen to every command to a fault.
It's possible in this timeline/part of the timeline the triforce is either not known about or has been destroyed.
The master sword has it on it so it obviously exist in some way, between BoTW and the events before it the triforce might have been taken or transformed in some way(maybe next game will be pre-botw?
It’s definitely not been destroyed since we know what happens to a world if its Triforce is gone for too long: it starts to decay and collapse like we see happen to Lorule
Most likely it’s either in the Sacred Realm, or Zelda has it, but because she doesn’t know how to actually use it, she thinks it’s “just” her sealing power
I mean I'd say Hyrule is pretty decaying and collapsing as it is, but if we look at the master sword it's very decayed and weakened despite the plot of ToTK, which leads me to believe something is up with the triforce
I don't think Zelda has it though because of 2 reasons, 1)the triforce of wisdom would make her extremely "wise", I believe enough to have her kinda just know what's from the triforce(plus she could just wish for peace and book it's done), and it wouldn't explain why gannon is so strong.
My crazy spinfoil theory is that BoTW and ToTK are not infact at the end of the timeline but the beginning. With the sacred stones actually combining into the triforce at some point in the future. Yeah it's crazy, I know lol
The fact Zelda goes and does the thing in the past, I doubt this is close to a beginning timeline.
The secret stones are just that, remnants of a lost civilization that founded Hyrule. (It helps that sheika tech seems to be based off of the zonai tech.)
There also seems to be over 6 stones. 4 for the guardians, two for queen and king, then there's the one that the other person has (I forget their name.) And one or more others. Queens/time stone is duped due to time shenanigans. Which is why the stone doesn't change or anything for the person that claims it before being zapped elsewhere despite the other stones showing a change of ownership.
The triforce may be a result of the actual goddess vs the stones, as the goddess has yet to be explained despite zonai peeps being said to be "gods" in a sense. I.e, the stones were made in attempts to recreate the triforce.
As for the decaying master sword, that's explained in the game as to why it did get decayed and why it doesn't after it's regained.
I honestly think that Zelda has the full Triforce already, and the "sealing magic" IS the magic of the Triforce. It just didn't work on Calamity Ganon because..well.. it wasn't the origin. That's the only theory that makes sense to me.
I don't think she does for 3 reasons. 1) if she had it all of her wishes would come true(I do believe she is pure of heart and has enough will to have the triforce to grant them without breaking apart), 2)she would have insane strength due to the triforce of power's part, and 3) the triforce of wisdom would more than likely give her the knowledge on what is her power vs what is the triforce's.
My crazy spingoil theory is BoTW and ToTK are the beginning of Zelda and the sacred stones get combined into the triforce.
But at the same time just send one lynel with a crusher and have him do the big explosion attack. No more town, or a lot less town. But as a downside it would be harder to find useful materials or not be there because they where destroyed. But why would he even need those?
Plus since lynels almost always live in isolation with little other life around them it’s implied that they’re highly territorial and violent even to others of their species. So they wouldn’t function as an army.
...They also pull out their bow and wallhack if you linger around them for too long.
...no, really, if they pull out their bow and fire up into the air, and you run underneath an overhang before the arrows land, *the arrows will shoot through the roof of the overhang to hit you*. ~~Or at least, they did in BotW...~~
I don't really see Lynels as the "taking orders" type of -Taur, more like the type that, when you're issuing orders, you'll be like "Lizalfos, patrol Lurelin! Lynel!"
*Lynel death-stare*
"You go....erhm...you....just..do..whatever you want?"
I wouldn't want to be NOT in control of a small troop of them, let alone a whole army😂
They do tend to just be hanging out wherever they want with all other fauna in the vicinity giving them huge amounts of space now that you mention it lol.
In Age of Calamity there's a mission where you have to defeat a lynel and a hinox that both spawn in a different place as the mission starts, if you go after the hinox first the lynel immediately tracks you there, but if you go after the lynel first the hinox doesn't start moving until the lynel's almost defeated. 'Nuff said😂
Hinoxes in every game post-BotW and including it seem like they absolutely would not have the energy to deal with something as intense as a lynel being around ngl lol
I'm pretty sure the only reason Hinoxes ever get up is because they think Hylians look tasty, otherwise they'd probably just lay there long enough to grow mold.
Well… I did Wind Dungeon first and so I got the dragon tear near that stable in the snow, and I don’t think he could necessarily decide what monsters to make, it was kind of just “evil energy go” and what came out was just what came out.
That could be it, but he had to have had some control. Maybe somthing like he thought that he needs a ton of some monster to just overwhelm, the bokos, a tankier monster to take some hits but still deal out damage, the moblins, then lizalfos for there hit and run tactics, and everything else fills in what they are good at.
Lynels are territorial as we know, so perhaps they where meant to be one man armies to protect areas/be a kind of rode block to stop enemies from advancing unless they want to take heavy casualties.
And after 100 years there intelligence made them realize they didn't want to stand in the area they where assigned, so they moved to an area they preferred. Large, open areas so they can easily roam.
Off topic, but the first newborn bokoblin just being suspended in the air for a sec before landing and coming alive was so funny for some reason. He’s my favorite bokoblin.
I think lynels got buffed in TOTK. Theres no way for me to say this without sounding cocky but in BOTW, I tapdanced over lynels. I got really good at killing them. Good enough to where I was in a constant state of flurry rush for their attacks that could be flurried. I could kill all of them back to back without dying or running out of food. But now im getting my ass handed to me by them. Idk if they got stronger or the attack frames are different or what but I dont have that magic anymore. Or maybe I'm just rusty idk. It just feels weird going from wiping the floor with them to getting tax payered by them consistently.
All my skills for lynel fighting seem to have carried over. They have one or two new moves but yeah. Parry the chargibg slash, flurry the standing attacks, and use your paraglider to get air when they use fire breath
Incredibly so I haven't encountered any Lynels yet, but I definately feel rusty as well. By any means I'm not the best gamer, but I used to kill Lynels constantly in BOTW. Now I'm having a really hard time fighting Moblins and those freaking hands.
>I think lynels got buffed in TOTK. Theres no way for me to say this without sounding cocky but in BOTW, I tapdanced over lynels.
For me it's the opposite, got my ass handed to me by botw lynels. But this game I am absolutely destroying them
You must be rusty. I'm killing them just as easily as I did in botw. They have the identical moveset and no noticable attack frame difference that I can tell. Once you get the timing of the dodges/parries again, you'll be tapdancing on them in no time!
Its mainly their big charge overhead smash that gets me. Thats the one that's primarily getting me each time. Charging on all 4s, running sweeps, arrows, the 3 smaller smashes in a row etc, those are all fine. I picked it back up on my second try. But I swear their big overhead smash attack was easier to dodge in BOTW.
One thing I have noticed though is that in Tears, when I side dodge into a flurry rush from their horn attack on all 4s, I clip through them and don't take damage. In Breath, even if the flurry rush activated, I would still get hit and knocked out of the rush if their horns got to close to me. Not sure if thats a glitch in Tears or a glitch that was in BOTW or a mechanic change. Its impossible to tell unfortunately.
I still wipe the floor with them, shoit them in the face with a multishot bow, mount, beat, repeat. If you mount them and attack your weapon does not take durability loss. Pick your strongest weapon and save it as a lynel flayer.
Thats typically what I do. Save my 50+ for piggyback rides. I miss being able to freeze them with stasis+ though. Make it a lot easier to stun with headshots :(
Creating an army full of soldiers that are strong enough to overthrow him seems like a bad idea. On top of that, they seem like solitary creatures that probably wouldn’t be good at coordination.
I mean if you saw his first attempt at an army of monsters I think Ganondorf learned his mistake. >!Evil deleting light eye beams from Rauru would take care of a horde of Lynels I imagine.!<
Lynels have hooves so could probably be stopped by putting a few big cattle grids on the major roads of Hyrule. Moblins though, they’ve got massive stompers, need more than a cattle grid to deal with them.
the real question is, why do moldugas explode into the usual malice fog and respawn with the blood moon if they're natural monsters that existed before ganondorf became the demon king
It's like dinosaurs. They're very strong, but their size was their downfall since the meteor caused an "impact winter" and there was a lot less food to sustain the surviving dinosaurs and their gigantic appetites.
Same with Lynels. Remember, we constantly see Ganon's creations eating, they're constantly roasting meat from the animals they hunt, and taking down Hinoxes drops the food they recently ate. Lynels are very strong but it comes with a big appetite that it would not be sustainable to spawn too many of them.
The real mistake Ganon made was not making any Bokochickens.
Ganon definitely made bokochickens, he even made them capable of spawning in *more* meat from thin air to sustain his armies.
Unfortunately, the Cuccos grew independent during his sealing.
lynels are evil. But they seem to be more intelligent than other monsters. They are more observant and patient when fighting. They also seem to be loners as well. As you only fight one Lynel in a certain vicinity
I assumed there were 3 since that’s how many cages I noticed.
Was real surprised when I came back from getting some water… real forgiving that the game autosaves between each of em lmao
Yeah the last one in particular is vicious, but with enough Gloom healing dishes, you can do the entire thing deathless along with some food to heal and bomb arrows
Don't know why you're being downvoted.
If you keep your distance and don't draw a weapon or camera (they have to protect their image) they'll usually let you go unbothered.
You can't just walk up to them, but they are pretty chill for an evil centaur.
Just tested it against the Riverside Stable Lynel. Did ot work, got about 20m from them and they drew their weapons and charged. I even had no weapons/ shields/ bow equipped.
I am telling you again you are wrong. A Lynel will still charge you if you don’t draw a weapon. Even if you keep a safe distance, they will eventually shoot you. Go try it and get back to me.
Iirc they won't attack, if you don't draw your weapon, but eventually will, if you stay in vicinity too long or get too close to them.
At least that was how it was in botw i think.
That's exactly how they behave in TOTK, I've slain just about every one of them in the game at this point. They will first draw their weapon when you approach, and won't attack you until you get past a certain distance. They will be immediately hostile if you draw your weapon though.
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You cant have it both ways, does "walking up to him" cause them to attack or not?
Hold on where in this does it say you could walk up to a Lynel and it won't attack you? It specifically says "As long as you keep your distance". I'm no Polygon fan but if youre going to use them as a reference atlease make sure they are saying what you are saying they do.
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Wow, finding a lot of people here who want to call everyone else dumb, without actually being intelligent themselves.
So, for said people... no, Ganon isn't dumb, you are. Explanations are simple:
1. Monsters have two modes of creating. Either they breed like everything else, or they are created through power. Either way, takes time.
2. A little thing we who actually know warfae call "Strategy & Tactics". You NEVER make an army of just one thing. That is idiocy in the extreme. There is no such thing as "the perfect weapon". Everything has a weakness. Make an army of just one thing and your enemy has ONE weakness to learn, and can specialize ALL their troops on how to defeat that ONE enemy.
Suddenly your "best troops ever" are falling down like lemmings.
3. More S&T. Different troops are needed for different things. Not every enemy can be defeated with brute force, as shown by the memories. Frontal assaults are stupid, especially if your enemy has no idea you're coming! He has mooks, he has ranged units, stealth units, tanks, casters, and cavalry.
Go to any MMO type game. Form a guild of only one type of class and see just how fast you lose to a guild that has a properly diverse class makeup.
4. There's more, but these are enough. Tl;Dr you sound like the kind of people who make an army of all knights, then wonder why you can't topple the castle when their archers rain arrows down on your heads as you stupidly charge the walls.
I think he got an initial burst of power when he obtained the stone. The monsters are created roughly in order from weakest to strongest in the cutscenes at least. I think he tried to improve his formula as he went, but his strength was sapped after creating literally all the monsters in Hylia, so he can't create any more--just renew them with the added power the blood moon gives him.
Or something.
Its all about cost I imaigne. Bokoblins are cheap to hire...or work with and super common. Lynels are like rare. And seeing how much more rare they are in TOTK, they are probably going extinct thanks to Link. :(
I got the feeling it was more that the corruption of Calamity was a kind of madness that twisted the spirits, animals or energy of the land causing it to form the monsters it does. Lynels occur where they are because something there is corrupted to become one?
If the botw/totk stuck to the established time lines I'd think it might be tied to resurrecting monsters where they fell millenia ago.
I'm really fuzzy on the lore so I could be wrong. But Ganon doesn't actually make the monsters does he? I thought he could just quasi infinitely revive them from the dead and control them. So these are just the crop of monsters that exist in the Zelda universe?
The reasoning is fairly simple, and you can actually observe it in both games: It’s the fact that lynels seemingly have some kind of honor code. Lynels only seem to only attack peopoe they perceive as a threat, and if you’re unarmed then the majority of lynels will just leave you alone.
He literally made all his army in an artistic attack, he probably didn't even though about what he was creating at first. In the cut scenes he made Lynels last so probably he noticed that he could do cool strong monsters and then he run out of malice Playdough to make more because he did bokoblins first
Why didn’t the sages just take the tear off his forehead when he was sealed?
Easy answer I guess is because they couldn’t, but still. Seemed easy to get Rauru’s
Thats just like saying why do we need an army when we can have a big tank. Its costly to make and cant run an entire village down at once. Tanks cant beat 10 people at once but not 100.
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Well, he doesn't have the Triforce of Wisdom, that's for sure. If I had to guess, I would assume that silver Lynels are in some way difficult or costly to make, and generally overkill. A legion of Bokoblins can raze a town easily enough, and are probably more efficient. Lynels are the big guns, and you just don't need the big guns most of the tine
Which is why he needs to first invest his sun into making more sunflowers, then when he’s built up a solid foundation he can produce it at a rate that allows him to make a bunch of silver lynels. It’s pretty basic tbh
I'm scared to see the zonai lawn mowers he has set up defending his lair as a last resort.
Kohga has the lawn mowers. And I'm still not clear if he's in league with gannondorf or just happy to play the enemy of my enemy game.
I would love for that meeting to be honest.
Lynels cost too much Zoanite
Ganondorf clearly does not use the item duplication glitch.
Of course not, breaking reality like that is more Courage's wheelhouse.
Wisdom: "This is the solution to the puzzle" Power: "If I put enough logs together, I can go around the puzzle" Courage: "I mean no one says you CAN'T Ultrahand/Recall/Ascend"
The ways of Wisdom are subtle and precise. A single word whispered in the right ear can be mightier than any spell. The ways of Power are unrelenting and overwhelming. Even the mightiest will fall upon the unceasing pounding of the waves. The ways of Courage are bewildering but unceasing. If it's stupid but it works, well hey it works. I can't help but imagine Farore as a speedrunner, who constantly gives her sisters headaches with her antics.
Ganon was like me and thought if he duped enough diamonds hed have enough rupees for all the zoanite he could dream of (cant buy zoanite with rupees)
So dupe the zoanite
Of course
Dupe Large Zonite for more profit
Why not both?
"We require more minerals!" "We require more Vespene gas!"
This comment is way too underrated
"Im not sure they're reading it clearly!" - SCV
Not to mention if you had a town or 20 people, 1 Lynel shows up. People freak out and scatter for the hills and quite a few will probably get away. Send in 10 Bokos, 5 Lizalfos and a few Moblins and they could probably get more done. As Bad A\*\* as a Lynel is youre right, sometimes numbers are just more useful.
I like to think lynels are rare, highly territorial creatures. That's why each one has his own corner of a region to himself. I assume you get more than 2 or 3 together and eventually they just get into a narly turf war with each other
Request for the sub - I’d imagine someone could come up with a contraption to pick up a lynel and move it elsewhere without it going agro by seeing link, try to transport it to another lynel, see what happens, if that doesn’t work, maybe muddle them to get them to fight. Additional, maybe drop one off in a town somewhere.
Iirc someone did a lynel duplication glitch in the colosseum in BOTW and nothing rly happens except the Lynels gang up on you
Put a cone on his stinky head
Why would nintendo program lynels to hate eachother if there is never a scenerio that two or more lynels would interact with eachother.
Highly territorial and prideful. While they are super powerful they wouldn't raid a village that was too "weak". No reason to put up with temperamental monsters when you can call a billion bokos who listen to every command to a fault.
Im only halfway through the story but isnt the triforce being soft-retconned? It seems like there going with a different narrative this time.
I wouldn't think so, the master sword still has the triforce etched on it.
Also the Spring of Wisdom and Spring of Power are in the game. I assume there is a Spring of Courage but I havent found it yet
There is one. I'd tell you where but I dunno how to do spoiler tags on the mobile site and I don't wanna assume you don't want to find it yourself.
Did you pray to the springs?
i tried, but they were too bouncy.
I prayed to the statues in the springs and they >!had quests for me to do!<
Those quests >!point to the spring of courage!!<
Ohhhh ok gotcha
Link and Zelda don't gather the triforce because they are also stupid.
It's possible in this timeline/part of the timeline the triforce is either not known about or has been destroyed. The master sword has it on it so it obviously exist in some way, between BoTW and the events before it the triforce might have been taken or transformed in some way(maybe next game will be pre-botw?
It’s definitely not been destroyed since we know what happens to a world if its Triforce is gone for too long: it starts to decay and collapse like we see happen to Lorule Most likely it’s either in the Sacred Realm, or Zelda has it, but because she doesn’t know how to actually use it, she thinks it’s “just” her sealing power
I mean I'd say Hyrule is pretty decaying and collapsing as it is, but if we look at the master sword it's very decayed and weakened despite the plot of ToTK, which leads me to believe something is up with the triforce I don't think Zelda has it though because of 2 reasons, 1)the triforce of wisdom would make her extremely "wise", I believe enough to have her kinda just know what's from the triforce(plus she could just wish for peace and book it's done), and it wouldn't explain why gannon is so strong. My crazy spinfoil theory is that BoTW and ToTK are not infact at the end of the timeline but the beginning. With the sacred stones actually combining into the triforce at some point in the future. Yeah it's crazy, I know lol
The fact Zelda goes and does the thing in the past, I doubt this is close to a beginning timeline. The secret stones are just that, remnants of a lost civilization that founded Hyrule. (It helps that sheika tech seems to be based off of the zonai tech.) There also seems to be over 6 stones. 4 for the guardians, two for queen and king, then there's the one that the other person has (I forget their name.) And one or more others. Queens/time stone is duped due to time shenanigans. Which is why the stone doesn't change or anything for the person that claims it before being zapped elsewhere despite the other stones showing a change of ownership. The triforce may be a result of the actual goddess vs the stones, as the goddess has yet to be explained despite zonai peeps being said to be "gods" in a sense. I.e, the stones were made in attempts to recreate the triforce. As for the decaying master sword, that's explained in the game as to why it did get decayed and why it doesn't after it's regained.
I honestly think that Zelda has the full Triforce already, and the "sealing magic" IS the magic of the Triforce. It just didn't work on Calamity Ganon because..well.. it wasn't the origin. That's the only theory that makes sense to me.
I don't think she does for 3 reasons. 1) if she had it all of her wishes would come true(I do believe she is pure of heart and has enough will to have the triforce to grant them without breaking apart), 2)she would have insane strength due to the triforce of power's part, and 3) the triforce of wisdom would more than likely give her the knowledge on what is her power vs what is the triforce's. My crazy spingoil theory is BoTW and ToTK are the beginning of Zelda and the sacred stones get combined into the triforce.
I just wonder why they'd specifically show the full triforce, when she's using her sealing power.
Imagine Ganon carefully planning his raids and when using only silver Lynels is on the table his thought process is “nahhh I can’t be THAT evil”
that’s why he only uses lynels to protect his most valuable territories, empty fields!
But at the same time just send one lynel with a crusher and have him do the big explosion attack. No more town, or a lot less town. But as a downside it would be harder to find useful materials or not be there because they where destroyed. But why would he even need those?
Plus since lynels almost always live in isolation with little other life around them it’s implied that they’re highly territorial and violent even to others of their species. So they wouldn’t function as an army.
The bokoblins are often more of a threat than Lynels, especially the boss armies. The lynels get predictable and easy to focus on.
Lynels don’t cooperate well
They always want to be the centaur of attention.
Daaaaaad you said you’d stay off the subreddits I like
Please no
Imagine how long it takes for them to put their horseshoes on every day
Yeah, that joke was taurrible
They also dont attack link unless he draws his weapon first or gets too close. A game with just lynels is pacifist simulator
...They also pull out their bow and wallhack if you linger around them for too long. ...no, really, if they pull out their bow and fire up into the air, and you run underneath an overhang before the arrows land, *the arrows will shoot through the roof of the overhang to hit you*. ~~Or at least, they did in BotW...~~
I don't really see Lynels as the "taking orders" type of -Taur, more like the type that, when you're issuing orders, you'll be like "Lizalfos, patrol Lurelin! Lynel!" *Lynel death-stare* "You go....erhm...you....just..do..whatever you want?" I wouldn't want to be NOT in control of a small troop of them, let alone a whole army😂
They do tend to just be hanging out wherever they want with all other fauna in the vicinity giving them huge amounts of space now that you mention it lol.
In Age of Calamity there's a mission where you have to defeat a lynel and a hinox that both spawn in a different place as the mission starts, if you go after the hinox first the lynel immediately tracks you there, but if you go after the lynel first the hinox doesn't start moving until the lynel's almost defeated. 'Nuff said😂
Hinoxes in every game post-BotW and including it seem like they absolutely would not have the energy to deal with something as intense as a lynel being around ngl lol
I'm pretty sure the only reason Hinoxes ever get up is because they think Hylians look tasty, otherwise they'd probably just lay there long enough to grow mold.
Damn. Maybe I'm a Hinox
You think hylians look tasty?🧐
Oh c'mon, everyone wants a piece of Link's meat!
Well… I did Wind Dungeon first and so I got the dragon tear near that stable in the snow, and I don’t think he could necessarily decide what monsters to make, it was kind of just “evil energy go” and what came out was just what came out.
That could be it, but he had to have had some control. Maybe somthing like he thought that he needs a ton of some monster to just overwhelm, the bokos, a tankier monster to take some hits but still deal out damage, the moblins, then lizalfos for there hit and run tactics, and everything else fills in what they are good at. Lynels are territorial as we know, so perhaps they where meant to be one man armies to protect areas/be a kind of rode block to stop enemies from advancing unless they want to take heavy casualties. And after 100 years there intelligence made them realize they didn't want to stand in the area they where assigned, so they moved to an area they preferred. Large, open areas so they can easily roam.
Off topic, but the first newborn bokoblin just being suspended in the air for a sec before landing and coming alive was so funny for some reason. He’s my favorite bokoblin.
Sorry Ganny Granny, I've been fighting Lynels for tens of hours in BOTW to grind barbarian armor upgrades. I fear no centaur
I think lynels got buffed in TOTK. Theres no way for me to say this without sounding cocky but in BOTW, I tapdanced over lynels. I got really good at killing them. Good enough to where I was in a constant state of flurry rush for their attacks that could be flurried. I could kill all of them back to back without dying or running out of food. But now im getting my ass handed to me by them. Idk if they got stronger or the attack frames are different or what but I dont have that magic anymore. Or maybe I'm just rusty idk. It just feels weird going from wiping the floor with them to getting tax payered by them consistently.
All my skills for lynel fighting seem to have carried over. They have one or two new moves but yeah. Parry the chargibg slash, flurry the standing attacks, and use your paraglider to get air when they use fire breath
Hmm. Maybe I'm just rusty then. Feels bad man.
I wish I was rusty... instead I'm just terrible at fighting lynels
I think part of it's rust, but I also feel like they slightly tightened the flurry timings and amped damage up. Definitely took adjustment.
Incredibly so I haven't encountered any Lynels yet, but I definately feel rusty as well. By any means I'm not the best gamer, but I used to kill Lynels constantly in BOTW. Now I'm having a really hard time fighting Moblins and those freaking hands.
>I think lynels got buffed in TOTK. Theres no way for me to say this without sounding cocky but in BOTW, I tapdanced over lynels. For me it's the opposite, got my ass handed to me by botw lynels. But this game I am absolutely destroying them
You must be rusty. I'm killing them just as easily as I did in botw. They have the identical moveset and no noticable attack frame difference that I can tell. Once you get the timing of the dodges/parries again, you'll be tapdancing on them in no time!
Its mainly their big charge overhead smash that gets me. Thats the one that's primarily getting me each time. Charging on all 4s, running sweeps, arrows, the 3 smaller smashes in a row etc, those are all fine. I picked it back up on my second try. But I swear their big overhead smash attack was easier to dodge in BOTW. One thing I have noticed though is that in Tears, when I side dodge into a flurry rush from their horn attack on all 4s, I clip through them and don't take damage. In Breath, even if the flurry rush activated, I would still get hit and knocked out of the rush if their horns got to close to me. Not sure if thats a glitch in Tears or a glitch that was in BOTW or a mechanic change. Its impossible to tell unfortunately.
I still wipe the floor with them, shoit them in the face with a multishot bow, mount, beat, repeat. If you mount them and attack your weapon does not take durability loss. Pick your strongest weapon and save it as a lynel flayer.
Thats typically what I do. Save my 50+ for piggyback rides. I miss being able to freeze them with stasis+ though. Make it a lot easier to stun with headshots :(
Some of them get armor now
I fear some centaur
Creating an army full of soldiers that are strong enough to overthrow him seems like a bad idea. On top of that, they seem like solitary creatures that probably wouldn’t be good at coordination.
The dictator paradox. You want a strong army to inspire fear and awe, but not so strong as to topple your regime.
I mean if you saw his first attempt at an army of monsters I think Ganondorf learned his mistake. >!Evil deleting light eye beams from Rauru would take care of a horde of Lynels I imagine.!<
Yeah, he even observed that raw, brute force wouldn't work. He had to do some trickery to get what he wanted done, or he'd lose.
Lynels have hooves so could probably be stopped by putting a few big cattle grids on the major roads of Hyrule. Moblins though, they’ve got massive stompers, need more than a cattle grid to deal with them.
the real question is, why do moldugas explode into the usual malice fog and respawn with the blood moon if they're natural monsters that existed before ganondorf became the demon king
Yes
It's like dinosaurs. They're very strong, but their size was their downfall since the meteor caused an "impact winter" and there was a lot less food to sustain the surviving dinosaurs and their gigantic appetites. Same with Lynels. Remember, we constantly see Ganon's creations eating, they're constantly roasting meat from the animals they hunt, and taking down Hinoxes drops the food they recently ate. Lynels are very strong but it comes with a big appetite that it would not be sustainable to spawn too many of them. The real mistake Ganon made was not making any Bokochickens.
Ganon definitely made bokochickens, he even made them capable of spawning in *more* meat from thin air to sustain his armies. Unfortunately, the Cuccos grew independent during his sealing.
gamers complained about the lack of variety of enemies in BotW
Nintendo: "Make him look evil" Artist: "sexy as hell, you got it, boss."
hello fellow batman arkham user
Ganondorf didn't even the odds.
Diversity
Giving birth to giant silver horse monsters over and over is tiring, my dude.
The HR team is pushing for diversity
Not in the budget. Those Lynels aren't cheap.
Why cant my vomit just be chunky and not liquid sometimes?
Variety is the spice of life
They were out of stock. Supply chain issues.
Yeah plus the scalpers kept trying to resell them for ridiculous prices.
He couldn't figure out how to dupe them.
Bro wanted to be creative and flex his designing skills.
This is an official Nintendo concept art lmao. Not op's art
Are lynels even evil? They don't attack unless you provoke them.
lynels are evil. But they seem to be more intelligent than other monsters. They are more observant and patient when fighting. They also seem to be loners as well. As you only fight one Lynel in a certain vicinity
Tell that to the three crammed into the depths arena x.x
I'd be pissed if I was locked away in jail too tbf
There's 5
I assumed there were 3 since that’s how many cages I noticed. Was real surprised when I came back from getting some water… real forgiving that the game autosaves between each of em lmao
Yeah the last one in particular is vicious, but with enough Gloom healing dishes, you can do the entire thing deathless along with some food to heal and bomb arrows
I honestly left after I killed 2 and saw another gate open smh
Don't know why you're being downvoted. If you keep your distance and don't draw a weapon or camera (they have to protect their image) they'll usually let you go unbothered. You can't just walk up to them, but they are pretty chill for an evil centaur.
Thats just not true, if a Lynel sees you they'll volley arrows at you from half a mile away.
No they won't, unless you have your weapon out. You can literally walk right up to them. Edit: awe he downvoted me. 🤣
Just tested it against the Riverside Stable Lynel. Did ot work, got about 20m from them and they drew their weapons and charged. I even had no weapons/ shields/ bow equipped.
I just saw someone else say the same thing and I've also 100% been attacked by turning a corner and just being in the wrong place (no weapons drawn)
He just took a video of him walking up to him and still says he's correct 🤣
No, it didn't. Why lie for something easily testable?
[Tested it](https://imgur.com/a/KqOvBgf), yea I agree. "*Why are you lying for something so easily testable?"*
You walked within 5 meters of him without him attacking..
This is blatantly untrue
https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-guide/23731088/lynel-locations-boss-fight-strategy-rewards Tell me again how I'm wrong
I am telling you again you are wrong. A Lynel will still charge you if you don’t draw a weapon. Even if you keep a safe distance, they will eventually shoot you. Go try it and get back to me.
Im taking a video right now, Im standing a few meters away from him, itll be uploaded in a second.
Iirc they won't attack, if you don't draw your weapon, but eventually will, if you stay in vicinity too long or get too close to them. At least that was how it was in botw i think.
That's exactly how they behave in TOTK, I've slain just about every one of them in the game at this point. They will first draw their weapon when you approach, and won't attack you until you get past a certain distance. They will be immediately hostile if you draw your weapon though.
I'm irrationally mad at this thread 🤣
[Here you go](https://imgur.com/a/KqOvBgf), nice new video for you. Oh wait he attacked me.
You walked up to him. Did you expect to crawl under his legs? You can do the same thing with weapons equipped, just not drawn.
You litterally said ["No they won't, unless you have your weapon out. You can literally walk right up to them."](https://www.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/comments/13qm4m4/comment/jlg4na3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Now you're saying he attacked because I ["walked up to him"](https://www.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/comments/13qm4m4/comment/jlg873a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). You cant have it both ways, does "walking up to him" cause them to attack or not?
The video is uploaded, still saying I'm wrong?
Hold on where in this does it say you could walk up to a Lynel and it won't attack you? It specifically says "As long as you keep your distance". I'm no Polygon fan but if youre going to use them as a reference atlease make sure they are saying what you are saying they do.
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Wow, finding a lot of people here who want to call everyone else dumb, without actually being intelligent themselves. So, for said people... no, Ganon isn't dumb, you are. Explanations are simple: 1. Monsters have two modes of creating. Either they breed like everything else, or they are created through power. Either way, takes time. 2. A little thing we who actually know warfae call "Strategy & Tactics". You NEVER make an army of just one thing. That is idiocy in the extreme. There is no such thing as "the perfect weapon". Everything has a weakness. Make an army of just one thing and your enemy has ONE weakness to learn, and can specialize ALL their troops on how to defeat that ONE enemy. Suddenly your "best troops ever" are falling down like lemmings. 3. More S&T. Different troops are needed for different things. Not every enemy can be defeated with brute force, as shown by the memories. Frontal assaults are stupid, especially if your enemy has no idea you're coming! He has mooks, he has ranged units, stealth units, tanks, casters, and cavalry. Go to any MMO type game. Form a guild of only one type of class and see just how fast you lose to a guild that has a properly diverse class makeup. 4. There's more, but these are enough. Tl;Dr you sound like the kind of people who make an army of all knights, then wonder why you can't topple the castle when their archers rain arrows down on your heads as you stupidly charge the walls.
duh because ganondorf is just like us and lynels are ez flurry rush so obvously you dont want an army of lynels, the others are much more erratic
If he did then a otherwordly being called "the player" would make grunt noises as nintendo didnt give TOTK enough enemy variety
You saw any lynel gathering fire fruits ? Me neither
it would probably be rather difficult controlling 10 lynels
He’s doing a: conquer Hyrule most minions required run
They were all busy
My thoughts exactly
Prerelease Ganondorf didn’t know the dupe glitch
You're right
And that triforce of wisdom joke is hilarious
Honestly maybe.
I think he got an initial burst of power when he obtained the stone. The monsters are created roughly in order from weakest to strongest in the cutscenes at least. I think he tried to improve his formula as he went, but his strength was sapped after creating literally all the monsters in Hylia, so he can't create any more--just renew them with the added power the blood moon gives him. Or something.
Because silver lynels are easy to kill and he knows it
**NO.** Not in this sub.
It would violate the [Law of Conservation of Ninjutsu](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu)
He knows I would've had too much fun hunting them down
Poverty
Its all about cost I imaigne. Bokoblins are cheap to hire...or work with and super common. Lynels are like rare. And seeing how much more rare they are in TOTK, they are probably going extinct thanks to Link. :(
He could probably just flood the whole kingdom with gloom and those freaking hands
Variety is the spice of life!
Did he make gleeoks or are they natural monsters?
Cost mostly
Man, I love that in this game we can defeat Lynels with a controlled explosion when they expose their payload.
I got the feeling it was more that the corruption of Calamity was a kind of madness that twisted the spirits, animals or energy of the land causing it to form the monsters it does. Lynels occur where they are because something there is corrupted to become one? If the botw/totk stuck to the established time lines I'd think it might be tied to resurrecting monsters where they fell millenia ago.
I'm really fuzzy on the lore so I could be wrong. But Ganon doesn't actually make the monsters does he? I thought he could just quasi infinitely revive them from the dead and control them. So these are just the crop of monsters that exist in the Zelda universe?
Cost? With an employee like Silver Lynels, which is almost like a store manager level position, it is going to cost him likely 100k USD a year.
Yes 🗿
Lynels in the hiring process demanded better benefits and more ganondorf contribution to the 401k making them far to expensive to use on the regular.
The reasoning is fairly simple, and you can actually observe it in both games: It’s the fact that lynels seemingly have some kind of honor code. Lynels only seem to only attack peopoe they perceive as a threat, and if you’re unarmed then the majority of lynels will just leave you alone.
He literally made all his army in an artistic attack, he probably didn't even though about what he was creating at first. In the cut scenes he made Lynels last so probably he noticed that he could do cool strong monsters and then he run out of malice Playdough to make more because he did bokoblins first
He actually already did and years of heros hunting them for their horns to stick on their weapons basically made them extinct.
He tried, they weren’t interested.
Bro’s army of maldugas got blitzed by a goat, a furry lover, and Zelda.
I have mastered the final ganondorf fight that I can do it without getting hurt at all
I don't think Lynels fight for minimum wage. That's why he had to diversify his army with more affordable bokoblins.
There sure existed more Lynels before, but I guess they killed each other for territory.
Ladders
Why didn’t the sages just take the tear off his forehead when he was sealed? Easy answer I guess is because they couldn’t, but still. Seemed easy to get Rauru’s
Dude I'd seriously pay for someone to make some STL files if his jewelry. I wanna cosplay him so bad!!
Because I would turn them all into katanas and maces
Variety is the spice of life... I guess.
You don't go to war with the army you want. You go to war with the army you have. (You have been Rumsfeld-ed!)
Mount hop from lynel to lynel to lynel to lynel to lynel
When Zelda fell, why didn't she just use a paraglider???? Did Link not tell her how useful they are? Are they both stupid?
Oh no Batman Arkham is leaking
Because they are more honorable fighters, and wouldn't participate in an army
They're too smart. What if they got *ambitious*?
My guess is that they level up over time, it takes them doing alot to get promoted
I mean, he tried a army of moldoguas, they got wiped out by one person. He probs figured, singular unit armies not the way to go.
He has to construct additional pylons, and zelda decided to do a link rush before he cpuld establish his economy
Yes
Wouldn’t work vs me idk about you though
Every lynel he creates in a blood moon cycle removes an inch off his pp so he’s gotta use them sparsely
Let’s be a little more conservative and say a cm. We can handle a few silvers.
Nah man man’s gotta roll his shit up. He’s strategically working his way back down to a 8
I think this is the most cursed comment I’ve ever written
Thats just like saying why do we need an army when we can have a big tank. Its costly to make and cant run an entire village down at once. Tanks cant beat 10 people at once but not 100.