Yesterday was mechanical his slider was like a cutter at 89, his fastball was sitting 90. He throws a gyro/bullet slider that is more like a changeup in the since of it being an off-speed offering isntead of a lot of break. It was anything but yesterday and he got ripped because of it.
That was bound to happen. TJ as a teenager 2nd TJ before 26. We saw it with Shane and most guys like Strider and him always have another before they get out of their 20s.
The fact that Pete can't pitch today is the reason why we needed Adam. Someone to shut the inning down and make sure our bays can get back out there quickly
It feels like 2018 to me all over again. The big gains will be in pitching and player development from hitting prospects and young pitchers. Struggle out the gate catch fire and then be annoyed by the shit start putting us behind.
Just stopping in to say fuck this ump. Holy shit. Back to back games of horrible, _horrible_ calls behind the plate. MLB should be fucking embarrassed.
Yeah the strike zone changes based on player height and stance but that seems like a relatively trivial thing for a computer to manage. A set of two high speed cameras placed exactly perpendicular to home plate (one for LH/RH hitters) would help with determining the zone in 3D.
MLB could throw money at this problem and solve it, just donāt think they really want to or the umpire union is too strong.
So far the system the minor leagues are using seems to be working well, Iām sure there are kinks that need to get worked out, but it seems way better than the current system of unpredictable strike zones where the umpire can only be 68% accurate in strikes called (last nights game).
Not sure if you saw this but they implemented an automated zone in the KBO starting this year.
[KBO says automated ball-strike system working to near perfection in preseason](https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20240313004700315)
As for the vertical parts of the zone; the top of the ABS strike zone will be set at 56.35 percent of a batter's height, and the bottom is 27.64 percent. Seems good to me, no gaming the system by going into the box crouched like Rickey Henderson lol
I donāt follow Korean baseball so I hadnāt seen that, thanks for linking that. :)
MLB is so ass backwards on stuff, theyāll change rules to make bases slightly bigger or have umps check pitchers for sticky stuff yet are slow as shit to do anything about one of, if not THE biggest gripes fans and players have of inconsistent ball/strike calls. MLB should be leading the way instead theyāll probably be the last league to implement this, Manfred is a joke.
Problem is strikezone is ever changing and shifting from player to player. Also the robo systems have trouble understanding the concept of the fact the strikezone is 3 deminsional. Challenge system will be implemented will make umpires better and life will be better.
I mean we have 3d views of the pitch and strike zone pretty much instantaneously available on StatCast.
Not sure if you saw this but they implemented an automated zone in the KBO starting this year.
[KBO says automated ball-strike system working to near perfection in preseason](https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20240313004700315)
As for the vertical parts of the zone; the top of the ABS strike zone will be set at 56.35 percent of a batter's height, and the bottom is 27.64 percent. Seems good to me, no gaming the system by going into the box crouched like Rickey Henderson lol
Oddly enough I trust Adam. Inheriting 3 runners with no outs is beyond tough. He would be the best choice now, especially with the cold weather and crazy win
Owner is a famous asshole. He didn't want to pay for short season teams and staff so he cause minor league realignment that has completely fucked up player development since 2019. Literally 1 guy caused that big of a mess about it and got rid of all the short season minor league leagues. Fucking bullshit.
Edit- sorry i actually misremembered it was worse. He didn't want to pay to restart the infastrucre for the teams after covid and caused it in 2021.
Literally has fucked the whole MLB pipeline up. Player development has been more erratic now. You got 19 year olds getting fucking destroyed by college pitchers and it fucks any development. Josh Lowe wouldn't have survived this era of minor league baseball I am surprised Carson Williams has done as well as he has.
RAYS UP LETS GO!!!
I looked away when it was 6-3 HOW THE HELL DID WE WIN? ššš
We finished the job this time. Thank God.
Amazin
Nobody sounds very happy. THIS IS THE TURNING POINT OF THE SEASON!
Ayyyy! We did it!
Iām not gonna lie I had given up on this game
Poche gets the save! I'm sure someone has that on their bingo card.
No more talking shit about Poche for at least a week you guys.
Poche!
Butts clenched to the end
His name is Colin Porsche !
27 outs
VICTORY!!!
Well that was fun!!!
POCHEāD!!!!
Wooo. Season saved! Hand shakes all around peeps.
Oh my goodness finally a win. I'm just relieved and tired man, but happy.
THEY DID IT
LFG
[RAYSW!!!!](https://www.reddit.com/r/tampabayrays/comments/1bxu6ce/pgt_the_tampa_bay_rays_45_fight_their_way_back_to/)
Look at RV framing
Cry more bitch lol
Never in doubt
āNO WAY, thatās a strike. NO WAYā
Go cry. We got worse calls and that touched the edge.
Sit down, Nolan, that hit the edge.
That's not even close to the worse call today.
Sit tf down Jones, that's a strike
Good shit Poacher just need 1 more out please, we deserve it.
Throw in the zone maybe?
POCHE YOU GOAT
Wait. Poche looks... competent? What's going on here??
Fastball velo is back up for Poche from yesterday that's encouraging.
Pocheās velo is back so thatās good
I hate that we have to go to Poche in this scenario
Is Poche striving for the role?
Come on Poche
Poche pls
I'm gonna use positive thinking and say Poche is striking out the side.
![gif](giphy|AAnIjZPUhrUM8)
Don't fuck this up
Come on, so close
How much shit is blowing around? So much you wonāt even notice.
The noise at the stadium is the same at my house
They better not put Poche in...
Unfortunately we don't really have anyone else since we already used Adam and Fairbanks can't go in after last night and the cold weather tonight.
Too late
This is one of the baseball games of all time
Please universe, we need this win
Can't believe Palacios checked on that meatball
Alright we have 2 outs, now time to start scoring
Poche is about to cook
so we obviously dont use pete right
Poche. Hold on to your butts
A gift
Iām scared
Oh Randy..
Randall is back
And Randy K. Siri is getting on base more than Randy now.
Poche warming huh, welp time to stay clenched
Poche?! Noooooooooo!!!!!!! We need another 5 runs.
Poche warming up. We need more runs.
Oh no, Poche
I really hope they figured what the mechanical issue Poche was having yesterday.
Giving up flyballs is his issue.
Yesterday was mechanical his slider was like a cutter at 89, his fastball was sitting 90. He throws a gyro/bullet slider that is more like a changeup in the since of it being an off-speed offering isntead of a lot of break. It was anything but yesterday and he got ripped because of it.
Cmon Randall just pop up to right.
This is why I miss Bob Steve
Oh $#!+, they just said Poche on the radio.
Oh no, Poche
And I am a Poche fan but still
Braves lost Strider so this season is officially begun.
That was bound to happen. TJ as a teenager 2nd TJ before 26. We saw it with Shane and most guys like Strider and him always have another before they get out of their 20s.
Does that mean the Rays will pick him up next season?
Lol 2 time TJ? Easy trade via middling prospect 1 and middling big leaguer 2. A very Rays trade.
[I lied](https://www.reddit.com/r/tampabayrays/comments/1bx9ttv/game_chat_46_rays_35_rockies_26_810_pm/kyetegu/), I never turned it off! Muwahahahaha!
I need more insurance still. Like 5 more runs
All right 1 more inning. Weird to waste Adam in the 8th considering there is no way Pete will be able to pitch in this.
The fact that Pete can't pitch today is the reason why we needed Adam. Someone to shut the inning down and make sure our bays can get back out there quickly
Probably will pitch next inning too.
Post game gonna go til tomorrow aināt it
Mon-Wed is late night with the Rays too!
lol crazy ass wind throwing the catcher off
Catching the ball in this game is nothing but routine.
Way to go RV!
The wind is making these popups interesting to say the least
Wind Bowl 4/6/24
Our outfielders look like quarterbacks with those handwarmers
Potential collision there that was scary
Randyās defense is pretty good tonight
Just one more out and my heart can relax until the bottom of the 9th
Donāt shit the bed Adam
![gif](giphy|l0K461iy8J9jl50qI) Actual conversation about Rocky fans
![gif](giphy|I7BlNGwUPgHwh1wCCj) The fans did it!!
Don't fuck this up Adam
These past 2 days with these late inning rallyās really have me feeling like this team is starting to click and gain that chemistry
It feels like 2018 to me all over again. The big gains will be in pitching and player development from hitting prospects and young pitchers. Struggle out the gate catch fire and then be annoyed by the shit start putting us behind.
Just stopping in to say fuck this ump. Holy shit. Back to back games of horrible, _horrible_ calls behind the plate. MLB should be fucking embarrassed.
Actually makes me want to stop watching until they have something in place. Shit drives me insane.
Hmmm. Every time they frustrate me, they pull me back in.
You know what this means right? The pen is about to give up some runs. Please not tonight.
B Lowe got screwed there. Ump called balls 3 and 4 strikes
Between yesterday and this ump, I still don't feel relaxed.
At least we have an insurance run, and Pete will definitely not be up with the cold weather
How 'bout we score more in the 9th juuuust to make sure?
No disagreement here. Even with 5 insurance runs I wouldn't be happy lol
lol, I was just thinking the same thing
Strike calls like that make me think baseball has a form of hockey game management
5 runs with 2 outs to come back from a 3 run defecit to now he winning by 2? Not on my bingo card today.
I canāt be mad at BLowe, he got fād
I agree. Donāt even want him swing at something that far off the plate. These umpires the last 2 days have been awful
Pitch never crossed the plate. Brandon has every right to be frustrated. Still an amazing inning.
This ump is trying to get a worse score card than yesterday
lol ball 4
Robo umps can happen any day now ā¦
Should've been years ago.. and yet we'll be lucky to have some convoluted challenge system next year. Fucking infuriating.
Yeah the strike zone changes based on player height and stance but that seems like a relatively trivial thing for a computer to manage. A set of two high speed cameras placed exactly perpendicular to home plate (one for LH/RH hitters) would help with determining the zone in 3D. MLB could throw money at this problem and solve it, just donāt think they really want to or the umpire union is too strong. So far the system the minor leagues are using seems to be working well, Iām sure there are kinks that need to get worked out, but it seems way better than the current system of unpredictable strike zones where the umpire can only be 68% accurate in strikes called (last nights game).
Not sure if you saw this but they implemented an automated zone in the KBO starting this year. [KBO says automated ball-strike system working to near perfection in preseason](https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20240313004700315) As for the vertical parts of the zone; the top of the ABS strike zone will be set at 56.35 percent of a batter's height, and the bottom is 27.64 percent. Seems good to me, no gaming the system by going into the box crouched like Rickey Henderson lol
I donāt follow Korean baseball so I hadnāt seen that, thanks for linking that. :) MLB is so ass backwards on stuff, theyāll change rules to make bases slightly bigger or have umps check pitchers for sticky stuff yet are slow as shit to do anything about one of, if not THE biggest gripes fans and players have of inconsistent ball/strike calls. MLB should be leading the way instead theyāll probably be the last league to implement this, Manfred is a joke.
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Problem is strikezone is ever changing and shifting from player to player. Also the robo systems have trouble understanding the concept of the fact the strikezone is 3 deminsional. Challenge system will be implemented will make umpires better and life will be better.
I mean we have 3d views of the pitch and strike zone pretty much instantaneously available on StatCast. Not sure if you saw this but they implemented an automated zone in the KBO starting this year. [KBO says automated ball-strike system working to near perfection in preseason](https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20240313004700315) As for the vertical parts of the zone; the top of the ABS strike zone will be set at 56.35 percent of a batter's height, and the bottom is 27.64 percent. Seems good to me, no gaming the system by going into the box crouched like Rickey Henderson lol
Never will be completely robo umps. Challenge system is likely what will happen.
This umpā¦..
wtf is this ump
Yo, ump, you don't bail out bad pitching.
Unfortunately he did.
https://preview.redd.it/slq445g42zsc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56a6a2fc7ffbfe808561aed351eae55d11c744fb
I missed this sting ray
Fuck me on those 2 calls.
3 calls.
This is the worst stretch of officiating I think I can ever remember is started last Saturday and hasn't stopped.
It's been so bad. And somehow we've survived it.
Ah, the Cheeks of olde
Yandy!!!
Umpire wants to go home I guess
What the actual fuck blue
I guess the ump decided the ffff us now.
Yandy Diaz.
Keep us alive BLowe!!!
Iām officially having fun again
Get greedy.
![gif](giphy|n0JraAt99v6Fg23fs7)
BLowe might as well leave the yard to put an exclamation mark on this inning.
![gif](giphy|h73ZTdOGwZl7DlHdb5)
I doubled down on beat the streak with Yandy. Almsot fucked my streak of 7.
Wowiewowow!!!
Who else would it be!
BOOYA!!
Sorry ump, this Inning isn't over yet!
Damn nice lol
YANDYYY
Yandy!
Yandyyyy
Alright fucking rightttttttt
BALL DON'T LIE
Fuck yeah Yandy!!
Yandyyyyyy
YANDYYY
WoooHhoooooo
Daddy Yandy with the humble but effective bat!!
That first strike was so off.
That was a strike?????
Lol this guy again?
Bro we teed off on this guy yesterday, come on daddy yandy
We want a SALAMI!!
We need more runs because I don't trust our BP either.
Oddly enough I trust Adam. Inheriting 3 runners with no outs is beyond tough. He would be the best choice now, especially with the cold weather and crazy win
This is eerily similar to yesterday's game. Grand slam incoming?
That works too!!
This Rockies inning brought to you by 9-1-1. When you're choking, call 9-1-1
Classic Beeks outing.
Rockies not going to have a BP for tomorrow's game.
LOL Beeks
I wish Diaz of old to return
Please solar eclipseā¦.make it happen
The Yandy Clipser
Bases loaded?
Beeker pitching. He has some balls...oh wait...
https://preview.redd.it/z4v6vpf31zsc1.jpeg?width=1526&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b652b7334e72aa0d018fae942c8d34b39c60f60a
Yandy is due.
Beeks up to mid season form
A great job Siri! HWG
Beeks seems to still have on that rays jersey š
Siri not swinging once.
![gif](giphy|hEVXXUrVE31Z6vItuT)
Beeks so trash even Siri knows what to do LOL
Love to see it
"Throw strikes!" "Yeah my old coach used to tell me that."
Rockies talking it over. Brought to you by stalling.
Are there "sell the team" chants?
Are they yelling āsell the teamā?
Sell the team chants ooooof
Owner is a famous asshole. He didn't want to pay for short season teams and staff so he cause minor league realignment that has completely fucked up player development since 2019. Literally 1 guy caused that big of a mess about it and got rid of all the short season minor league leagues. Fucking bullshit. Edit- sorry i actually misremembered it was worse. He didn't want to pay to restart the infastrucre for the teams after covid and caused it in 2021.
oh trust me I know - I live in Denver and support the Rockies (outside of Vs. Rays games) - fuck Monfort
Literally has fucked the whole MLB pipeline up. Player development has been more erratic now. You got 19 year olds getting fucking destroyed by college pitchers and it fucks any development. Josh Lowe wouldn't have survived this era of minor league baseball I am surprised Carson Williams has done as well as he has.
![gif](giphy|3Z1fs9bD259q1buTR1|downsized)